Hi,
I'm really sorry for starting a topic like this, but this forum/subsection is really so cluttered...
I'm just looking for a stable, light, snappy ROM. A ROM which has proven it's worth. As little bugs as possible, no experimental features!
And also a kernel which fits best.
I would like like all hardware functions of my phone to keep working though:
Camera/Video, hardware keyboard/lights, vibrate, tactile feedback, etc...
Grtz!
No probs brov........
For ROM:-
NeroDroid Universal ROM- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458963
For Kernel:-
1. X Kernel- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451150
2. Rage Kernel- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398910
Enjoy brov...........
swimon said:
Hi,
I'm really sorry for starting a topic like this, but this forum/subsection is really so cluttered...
I'm just looking for a stable, light, snappy ROM. A ROM which has proven it's worth. As little bugs as possible, no experimental features!
And also a kernel which fits best.
I would like like all hardware functions of my phone to keep working though:
Camera/Video, hardware keyboard/lights, vibrate, tactile feedback, etc...
Grtz!
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You will get a bunch of different answers as each rom runs differently depending on set up and apps. To be honest looking for a rom in a development forum and you will always find things to be experimental. XDA is not about finding stable bug free roms. It is about learning and development.
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whalesplaho said:
No probs brov........
For ROM:-
NeroDroid Universal ROM- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458963
For Kernel:-
1. X Kernel- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451150
2. Rage Kernel- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398910
Enjoy brov...........
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Thanks, will definately check that one out.
zelendel said:
You will get a bunch of different answers as each rom runs differently depending on set up and apps. To be honest looking for a rom in a development forum and you will always find things to be experimental. XDA is not about finding stable bug free roms. It is about learning and development.
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I don't entirely agree. My previous phone was a HTC Desire, there were a lot of experimental ROMs, but also a lot of stable running ROMs.
I agree that most ROMs will always be a little experimental. But there's experimental and experimental ... If you know what I mean
What I'm trying to say is, I would like to have a ROM which is made by someone who really knows what he's doing and not just some barely tested ROM which will crash every 5 seconds
As for me, i havent try another ROM on my phone cos most has Bug.... have been using NeroDroid ROM since i bought my phone & i havent for once regret dat!!! i keep praying for tha Developer every blessed day for making a wonderful ROM!
swimon said:
Thanks, will definately check that one out.
I don't entirely agree. My previous phone was a HTC Desire, there were a lot of experimental ROMs, but also a lot of stable running ROMs.
I agree that most ROMs will always be a little experimental. But there's experimental and experimental ... If you know what I mean
What I'm trying to say is, I would like to have a ROM which is made by someone who really knows what he's doing and not just some barely tested ROM which will crash every 5 seconds
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I understand that but really this is development forum for developers to try out things that may cause issues or even brick a device if you don't understand exactly what your doing. This always has been and always will be the case. Just be happy that the devs even offer fixes unlike a few years ago when it was up to the users to dug in and fix issues they come across. Flashing custom roms should never be taken with a grain of salt or done cause people think it is cool or fun. We all should be hear to learn. If your not learning something when flashing then it really is a waste if time.
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zelendel said:
I understand that but really this is development forum for developers to try out things that may cause issues or even brick a device if you don't understand exactly what your doing. This always has been and always will be the case. Just be happy that the devs even offer fixes unlike a few years ago when it was up to the users to dug in and fix issues they come across. Flashing custom roms should never be taken with a grain of salt or done cause people think it is cool or fun. We all should be hear to learn. If your not learning something when flashing then it really is a waste if time.
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I understand yhu brov..... its a Development Zone, yhu create something & others test den drop feedbacks & yhu try to improve on it... but some still have bugs even though its an update of tha former.... Also its not easy formatting & customizing tha phone back, thanks to titanium backup for restoring of apps!
zelendel said:
I understand that but really this is development forum for developers to try out things that may cause issues or even brick a device if you don't understand exactly what your doing. This always has been and always will be the case. Just be happy that the devs even offer fixes unlike a few years ago when it was up to the users to dug in and fix issues they come across. Flashing custom roms should never be taken with a grain of salt or done cause people think it is cool or fun. We all should be hear to learn. If your not learning something when flashing then it really is a waste if time.
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I have some knowledge about the proces of flashing roms/customizing phones. I just had more for my previous phone. Everything is a little new for the minipro.
That's also the reason I'm looking for a lite ROM, less potential problems to encounter
if u want really a light rom u could try pro-x rom, it is not posted here in xda, but if u type it on google u could find it on that guy website
nice, will check that one out also
In my opinion if you want a light & stable ROM you should stick with stock ROM. Thats what I have done. I just removed all the bloatware and unnecessary crap that I will never use, it has the best battery life and you don't really have to worry about it crashing. Also, I used Rage Kernel as it provides amazing battery life. To make my life easier I installed extra MODs that are essential. Just look at my signature for all the stuff I have installed.
BudgyN1 said:
In my opinion if you want a light & stable ROM you should stick with stock ROM. Thats what I have done. I just removed all the bloatware and unnecessary crap that I will never use, it has the best battery life and you don't really have to worry about it crashing. Also, I used Rage Kernel as it provides amazing battery life. To make my life easier I installed extra MODs that are essential. Just look at my signature for all the stuff I have installed.
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You're right, but I would like to go one step further, I would also (maybe) like to get rid of the Sony apps. Like the Sony launcher, text-app, ... and start using the android default apps.
Is this also possible to remove those system apps from the stock rom?
swimon said:
You're right, but I would like to go one step further, I would also (maybe) like to get rid of the Sony apps. Like the Sony launcher, text-app, ... and start using the android default apps.
Is this also possible to remove those system apps from the stock rom?
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Yeah, if you are rooted you can do anything you want! That's what I have done, I removed most Sony stock apps and replaced them with the 1s CyanogenMod supplies (which is stock). Some apps I kept the same due to they look nicer!
To be exact, the only thing I changed was the Phone, Contacts & Messaging apps. Everything else I kept the same
me and the best rom so far http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626346
BudgyN1 said:
Yeah, if you are rooted you can do anything you want! That's what I have done, I removed most Sony stock apps and replaced them with the 1s CyanogenMod supplies (which is stock). Some apps I kept the same due to they look nicer!
To be exact, the only thing I changed was the Phone, Contacts & Messaging apps. Everything else I kept the same
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Interesting, thanks.
Do you just remove rhese apps with Titanium? Or using Flashtool? Or any other method?
And what are 1s CyanogenMod supplies?
lucasgouveiatwo said:
me and the best rom so far http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626346
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I doubt this is really stable?
swimon said:
Interesting, thanks.
Do you just remove rhese apps with Titanium? Or using Flashtool? Or any other method?
And what are 1s CyanogenMod supplies?
I doubt this is really stable?
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The ones, that are CyanogenMod.
The apps from CyanogenMod ROMs
And indeed, ICS ROMs are not fully stable yet, still have some bugs there and there.
Someguyfromhell said:
The ones, that are CyanogenMod.
The apps from CyanogenMod ROMs
And indeed, ICS ROMs are not fully stable yet, still have some bugs there and there.
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Oké lol, was looking for "1s cyanogen" on google, couldn't find anything
PRO-X ROM is Great!!!
hazard_puppet said:
if u want really a light rom u could try pro-x rom, it is not posted here in xda, but if u type it on google u could find it on that guy website
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Thanks for the lead. The PRO-X [ROM] is working great in my Mini Pro (SK17i)
BTW, it is now posted on this forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639720
I tried three different ROMs in the last one week before settling on this one.
Cyanogenmod 7.1.02 - Didn't work, faced the boot loop problem.
MIUIv4 2.4.6 - Nice UI, but phone felt sluggish and video play was jerky.
4.0.2.A.0.69 Generic (PreRooted) with 66 Baseband - Camera flash was not working.
But finally, PRO-X gives me everything I want - a light, snappy rom with fully functional hardware and no bugs (so far). Had it for two days now.
==> Rage Kernel v2.8 + Baseband 64 + PRO-X v2.2 ROM
Cheers.
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I made this post to see wat people think which is best rom and wat is wrong wid some roms have tried every rom out there and iam here to help wid any problems people have IAM NOT A DEVELOPER so i dont no everything but i can help wid stuff that i fixed myself
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Stock, hands down. Everything works with no fuss.
In the long run, though, I would say Cyanogenmod will be the best, when Samsung moves on to support newer phones, and "forgets" about SG2...
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Stock, hands down. Everything works with no fuss.
In the long run, though, I would say Cyanogenmod will be the best, when Samsung moves on to support newer phones, and "forgets" about SG2...
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I agree but u can custom your self to get the faster stock cyanogenmod will be good but apart from stock i would use lighting 3.1 its great iam useing it now
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You can't be serious asking this question!
It's a personal matter.
giokou said:
You can't be serious asking this question!
It's a personal matter.
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This is true. However, deep inside I really wish to ask that as I tried so many and so hard to decide.
Here's a quick breakdown
Cognition
- smooth
- why I dislike: The feel of the UI (self preference)
Litening 4.1
- GREAT
- really fast in speed
- why I dislike: been too long see-ing blue colour
VillianROM
- GREAT
- smooth UI, fun to play, many tweaks according to your liking
- why I dislike: seeing too much green robot is boring (if you get what I mean)
Exynos Extreme
- current favourite
- very smooth, like the part where the author actually remove unwanted apps for us
- downside: 3.4 is a little buggy (can't copy and paste), 3.3 is smooth and GREAT
Generally, Litening 4.1 give good battery life. Exynos too but I am using Exynos with SpeedMOD so a little different here.
There you go
giokou said:
You can't be serious asking this question!
It's a personal matter.
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It's a fair question but prbably should have asked which ROM people prefer. I hate it when people get flamed for asking which ROM people like best. Some of us don't have the time to download every ROM out there and just want to hear others' opinions..
Keep the opinions coming - I want to be tempted away from stock!
Exynos. best ive used so far
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153826
matt_777 said:
Exynos. best ive used so far
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153826
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I got to agree. Some reason, it felt unique compared to Litening and the rest. Not sure why though.
The best ROM is subjective and will probably change within a week of this question been asked.
Thread closed, not related to development.
bonkers0412 said:
IAM NOT A DEVELOPER
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So don't post it in development then...
Hi friends. My girlfriend recently purchased a Ray. We have rooted the phone and now are ready to install a custom ROM. I wanted a review of ROMs from you guys which you have used on your Ray. (Camera, battery life, smoothness, stability etc.)
You can help me by letting me know about the following ROMs
- CyanogenMod 7.2 RC1
- KA11 Ice Cream Sony
- FreeXperiaProject 7.2
- FreeXperiaProject 9.0
- JJ's HYBRID ROM v3
- RayOnium
Or you could just tell me the best ROM for Ray.
yash_p90 said:
Hi friends. My girlfriend recently purchased a Ray. We have rooted the phone and now are ready to install a custom ROM. I wanted a review of ROMs from you guys which you have used on your Ray. (Camera, battery life, smoothness, stability etc.)
You can help me by letting me know about the following ROMs
- CyanogenMod 7.2 RC1
- KA11 Ice Cream Sony
- FreeXperiaProject 7.2
- FreeXperiaProject 9.0
- JJ's HYBRID ROM v3
- RayOnium
Or you could just tell me the best ROM for Ray.
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Try it yourself, and please don't post this kind of question again.
Well I thought xda was meant to share your knowledge and help others!
I have tried CM7.2, CM9.0 and Offical ICS BETA ROM V4 Update http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516750
ICS BETA is the best so far. CM7.2 and CM9.0 is too buggy for me yet. (IMHO)
yash_p90 said:
Well I thought xda was meant to share your knowledge and help others!
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Yes but not this kind of question. Clearly you post it at the wrong thread. Why don't you put it on the sticked thread above? And again, none is the Best. It comes down to each person's experiences, and it is not kindly enough to compare something that's been done for passion, with silly ranks. If all ROMs are paid version, you could ask such a question. But it is free so it is ethically not allowed to compare them all, it just makes some war (as i have seen it before on X10MP forum). Try yourself and read all the testimonial. Read before ask will never hurt.
hansip87 said:
Try it yourself, and please don't post this kind of question again.
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there is nothing bad in asking for help.. Newbies really dont know where to go...
Its just a Kernel or ROM the guy is asking...There wont be anything too sensitive or emotional for Dev if someone helps him choosing a ROM...
@OP... Every ROM has its own features... Depends on users choice or features he/she wants... it just takes 15 mins to check a ROM and its features... try each one by one and stay with the one that suits u more...
jjdoctor said:
there is nothing bad in asking for help.. Newbies really dont know where to go...
Its just a Kernel or ROM the guy is asking...There wont be anything too sensitive or emotional for Dev if someone helps him choosing a ROM...
@OP... Every ROM has its own features... Depends on users choice or features he/she wants... it just takes 15 mins to check a ROM and its features... try each one by one and stay with the one that suits u more...
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Well at least they can read, can't they? Just keeping this thread clean and tidy and minimal of confrontation. I know it is maybe harmless, but i won't bet on it since i have seen it growing to some hatred to the devs later.
hansip87 said:
Well at least they can read, can't they? Just keeping this thread clean and tidy and minimal of confrontation. I know it is maybe harmless, but i won't bet on it since i have seen it growing to some hatred to the devs later.
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U never flashed my ROM... you hate it... Did i ever hate u coz of that?...
its just a Phone... not something related to my Personal characters...
jjdoctor said:
U never flashed my ROM... you hate it... Did i ever hate u coz of that?...
its just a Phone... not something related to my Personal characters...
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Not hating the ROM mind you, just the theme.. And you know me all along since the first mod i popped here, that i kept the theme as stock as possible (at least in rhythm with stock theme), and later you mod the theme for any other. So you knew how much i love sony theme (or too lazy to do a theme of m own) ..
Yes it is just a phone and how nice it is if everybody has the same mind like yours. The thing is, majority of human is human, they like to idolize something and when different peoples with different mind comes together, war..
Ah forget it, getting off topic now.. X)
yash_p90 said:
Hi friends. My girlfriend recently purchased a Ray. We have rooted the phone and now are ready to install a custom ROM. I wanted a review of ROMs from you guys which you have used on your Ray. (Camera, battery life, smoothness, stability etc.)
You can help me by letting me know about the following ROMs
- CyanogenMod 7.2 RC1
- KA11 Ice Cream Sony
- FreeXperiaProject 7.2
- FreeXperiaProject 9.0
- JJ's HYBRID ROM v3
- RayOnium
Or you could just tell me the best ROM for Ray.
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Well, all I can say is your not yet ready to install custom rom. Unlike any other brand of phones, Sony has a locker bootloader. You have to unlock boatloader first which will void the warranty to install custom ROM.
I'll give you a tip in choosing rom.
1. Go to each rom's thread, read the rom's description first, see if the phone features that are essential for your everyday usage is working as we all now that each has their own pros and cons.
2. Feedbacks, just read feedbacks. It will give you the idea if the Rom is for or not.
3. Number of post, check the number of post. More post may actually mean that many people are using that rom.
Go find it yourself. It's not easy to give comparison as it may hurt the developer's feelings reading some bad comments about their hardworks.
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In real i like this topic ... i was reading many things around any Rom ... same with kernels and that's good, what we all together can speak about them all in one place. Coz if u can see, each time when any Rom will be updated, makers did new Topic about it, well why we can't talk about things like that, like new Rom's in one place? For many Dev's it will be nice place too, coz they can see what ppl's like, what they want, for what they downloaded for example MIUI and not Cyan.
Iam interested in this topic, coz iam trying to find balanced Rom, just needed app's in it, everything is working and smooth ... and thats my question of the day, what Rom and kernel(also baseband) draining battery not so fast?
For example on same Rom what i have now iam tried different options in build.prop
pm.sleep_mode=2
ro.ril.disable.collapse=0
but made one mistake in same day iam changed baseband ... and if before my Rom take for whole night 2% of my battery ... after this moves i got 3%.
Today iam trying new baseband and we will see what i can have then.
Well its good to know about them all, i mean Rom's .. and iam tried many of them, last JJ's rom, MIUI from iriijo and bla bla bla. And all what i can say, they all bugged, GB more stable for now and everything is working nice with repack from 4pda .. for nice view i use Go laucher Ex, its overclocked and bla bla bla. I like it, but i love Torch from MIUI with home button and many small things like that in any other Rom.
Well this topic must live, i hope soon we can read here more info and maybe someone can offer to me, how to make my battery life better, coz my phone can stay without charging just 1 day ^^ and one guy at the 4pda forum got 3 days and 14 hours, used 2g(but it was on), not 3g ... used internet, listened music, used wifi also ... i think even 2 days like that should be perfect, but why i can't do the same ?^^
Sorry if my english isn't perfect enough and sorry for to much words in this answer ^^
Rayonium is the best rom for me.
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Azzbreaker said:
In real i like this topic ... i was reading many things around any Rom ... same with kernels and that's good, what we all together can speak about them all in one place. Coz if u can see, each time when any Rom will be updated, makers did new Topic about it, well why we can't talk about things like that, like new Rom's in one place? For many Dev's it will be nice place too, coz they can see what ppl's like, what they want, for what they downloaded for example MIUI and not Cyan.
Iam interested in this topic, coz iam trying to find balanced Rom, just needed app's in it, everything is working and smooth ... and thats my question of the day, what Rom and kernel(also baseband) draining battery not so fast?
For example on same Rom what i have now iam tried different options in build.prop
pm.sleep_mode=2
ro.ril.disable.collapse=0
but made one mistake in same day iam changed baseband ... and if before my Rom take for whole night 2% of my battery ... after this moves i got 3%.
Today iam trying new baseband and we will see what i can have then.
Well its good to know about them all, i mean Rom's .. and iam tried many of them, last JJ's rom, MIUI from iriijo and bla bla bla. And all what i can say, they all bugged, GB more stable for now and everything is working nice with repack from 4pda .. for nice view i use Go laucher Ex, its overclocked and bla bla bla. I like it, but i love Torch from MIUI with home button and many small things like that in any other Rom.
Well this topic must live, i hope soon we can read here more info and maybe someone can offer to me, how to make my battery life better, coz my phone can stay without charging just 1 day ^^ and one guy at the 4pda forum got 3 days and 14 hours, used 2g(but it was on), not 3g ... used internet, listened music, used wifi also ... i think even 2 days like that should be perfect, but why i can't do the same ?^^
Sorry if my english isn't perfect enough and sorry for to much words in this answer ^^
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okay...
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The best rom is what you get from the right combination of trick,mod,personalization you can get from the xda developers,if you don't think so use a stock one.
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for me the best rom is jj's hybrid and ka
Kurosaki70 said:
for me the best rom is jj's hybrid and ka
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Yes, KA11 is best!
jjdoctor said:
there is nothing bad in asking for help.. Newbies really dont know where to go...
Its just a Kernel or ROM the guy is asking...There wont be anything too sensitive or emotional for Dev if someone helps him choosing a ROM...
@OP... Every ROM has its own features... Depends on users choice or features he/she wants... it just takes 15 mins to check a ROM and its features... try each one by one and stay with the one that suits u more...
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hansip87 said:
Yes but not this kind of question. Clearly you post it at the wrong thread. Why don't you put it on the sticked thread above? And again, none is the Best. It comes down to each person's experiences, and it is not kindly enough to compare something that's been done for passion, with silly ranks. If all ROMs are paid version, you could ask such a question. But it is free so it is ethically not allowed to compare them all, it just makes some war (as i have seen it before on X10MP forum). Try yourself and read all the testimonial. Read before ask will never hurt.
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I would have tried the ROMs myself if it was my phone. Itz not my phone. That is why I asked for help, otherwise I would have never asked.
I have tried all possible ROMs for my HTC Wildfire.
P.S. I have unlocked the bootloader.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
I use stock ICS rom and I edited it on my way ^^~
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Testing new MIUI official one for Arc and ported for ray, looks awesome, cutting some xit now and we will see, but for now everything iam tried, everything is working.
K11 working fine for me oc 1.6 GHz no problems
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As many of you might have noticed, I've been pushing lots of MiniCM sources the last days. ICS is done and JB is on its way.
I'd like to take this opportunity and invite other developers or members that would like to contribute patches to do so. We already have some people contributing code for MiniCM and I would like to see more joining in. The code is available at: https://github.com/MiniCM
Why do this now?
This arch is reaching its limit as far as android development is concerned and there is too much ROM fragmentation for an old phone like this.
I know that most of the ROMs around are already using MiniCM binaries or sources and I'm ok with that. However, now is the time to consider contributing back and helping this project.
MiniCM is a fork of CM dedicated for these old phones. Notice that we are never gonna have official CM support, this is actually the cause that MiniCM serves
Licensing
I decided to keep my modifications Apache licensed. This is what gave android such a rapid development and I'd say has proven successful so far
I'd like to see this thread being used for Development ideas and solutions. NOT by user spamming (which will get you banned soon anyway since this thread is mod-monitored - you've been warned).
Reserving for build instructions
I can try to do option for disable/enable display button, but i'm not sure that i can do it
Lets keep this thread clean and on topic, as the OP has requested
We (the mods) will have a close eye on things, so lets not have any nonsense :good:
AChep said:
I can try to do option for disable/enable display button, but i'm not sure that i can do it
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You mean the navigation bar right?
See this: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/20726/
nobodyAtall said:
You mean the navigation bar right?
See this: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/20726/
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Oooppss, hour of my time wasted Cyanogen guys are fast
FAQ of course
and remember, for each version (miniCM7,9 and 10) there is a dedicated FAQ
that you can find here
I have a little idea. Many users of X8 and X10 Mini/Mini Pro uses stock kernel and can't unlock bootloader. I tried to make an addon to boot MiniCM7 based ROM's on stock, but still without success. With your help, nobodyAtall and other users, we can make such addon. I'm too unexperienced yet to do this by myself. What are your thoughts?
eagleeyetom said:
I have a little idea. Many users of X8 and X10 Mini/Mini Pro uses stock kernel and can't unlock bootloader. I tried to make an addon to boot MiniCM7 based ROM's on stock, but still without success. With your help, nobodyAtall and other users, we can make such addon. I'm too unexperienced yet to do this by myself. What are your thoughts?
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Hi eagleeyetom,
Unfortunately stock kernel is VERY outdated to be usable in modern ROMs (e.g. gingerbread onwards).
In essence, one would have to replace the kgsl system to get the graphics to work decently with latest adreno blobs. Also I'm not sure if usb would be working since this too is outdated.
Other things to note: RAM (175MB if I remember correctly) is desperately low for modern Android versions, performance would also not be good enough for daily use. Kernel-side, I'm doing my best to boost performance as much as possible by backporting almost all of the main components that android uses from later versions.
All in all, for gingerbread it would be possible with serious performance sacrifices which I'm not willing to accept (even as a user). For ICS/JB, just forget it.
Perhaps a good project would be to make bootloader unlocking work for recent devices...
I understand your concerns and also think that stock is utter piece of crap, but it's still worth a shot. Such universal patch would improve development to our old shakiras. Your MiniCM is way better than official CM - really great job. Even with these bugs you've mention it's better than spent cash to unlock bootloader. I really admire the work of Alf and you - it's amazing to have such modern kernels to over-two-years-old devices.
Worse performance is a fact, but the ability to use almost every CM7 ROM on stock is tempting. This would be a great contribution to our small community.
P.S. I also think that you should have Elite Recognized Developer title. Such good work should be appreciated.
eagleeyetom said:
I understand your concerns and also think that stock is utter piece of crap, but it's still worth a shot. Such universal patch would improve development to our old shakiras. Your MiniCM is way better than official CM - really great job. Even with these bugs you've mention it's better than spent cash to unlock bootloader. I really admire the work of Alf and you - it's amazing to have such modern kernels to over-two-years-old devices.
Worse performance is a fact, but the ability to use almost every CM7 ROM on stock is tempting. This would be a great contribution to our small community.
P.S. I also think that you should have Elite Recognized Developer title. Such good work should be appreciated.
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I see what you mean. Gingerbread compatibility is feasible BUT is gonna be pretty slow - in fact REALLY slow compared to MiniCM7.
We try to give a top quality ROM, so if this would ever happen it would be like a flashable zip and totally unsupported
I hope a lot pf devs will join the development. Cause everybody is working alone and if you all work together, it will bbe better for you and all ROM users. You'll develop quicker and easier.
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nAa, is there a chance we can have CWM 6.XX on our GB kernels ?
RohinZaraki said:
nAa, is there a chance we can have CWM 6.XX on our GB kernels ?
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I think it is possible, you can try it yourself, because you are able to change the recovery of the Kernel
actually it's possible. you just need to change the recovery file in the ramdisk with the one from JBMiniProject kernel or with one you compiled.
Why do not use the "Camera ICS+" in the market to replace the default camera app instead of taking a lot of time to fix the camera ???
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Why do not use the "Camera ICS+" in the market to replace the default camera app instead of taking a lot of time to fix the camera ???
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nAa roms are pure CM roms custom built for our device. If you see there is no third party apps. Not in GB and ICS and neither in JB.
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nAa, is there a chance we can have CWM 6.XX on our GB kernels ?
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I was trying something similar last night but with FroyoPro25.. Trying to get usb tethering working in it..
Can you all focus on GB please?
Working on ICS and JB is useless because they will never work smoothly on these old phones
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Can you all focus on GB please?
Working on ICS and JB is useless because they will never work smoothly on these old phones
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And what has left on GB to be developed? How can we improve it?
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Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
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Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
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First of all welcome to the forums and we'll done for leaving Apple lol.
Nightly is a term given for a Rom that is released every night.mostly new mods and tweaks to improve or intend to improve on from the last nightly.these are seen as betas and every now and again a stable or milestone version will be released.
There is no real reason why you should root. It's whether you want to benefit from having full system control or not that you would do it. It's up to you.
Flashing roms such as super nexus does have its downside as it's built from open source. As Samsung do not release all of their sources some parts are taken from the open source project. This means they do not always take full advantage of the hardware. An example of this is the camera in aosp/aokp/cm roms is not as good as the stock camera in touch wiz roms.
Battery life is also reported to be better in stock Roms than on aokp/aosp/cm and from personal experience I'd have to agree.
Hope this helps a little.
There is a lot that can be done when rooted but if you're not fussed about messing with the system then dont do it.
Drew
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and questions go to the questions section
Glebun said:
and questions go to the questions section
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And I missed that fundamental point lol
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BraeA said:
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
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Rooting on it's own will not brick, slow down or loose battery life etc, it's what you do with the phone after you root that can do this, things like overclocking will affect battery, undervolting and underclocking will affect performance, but what you can do after rooting is things like use faster fix to slightly increase gps fix time, you can block ads, you can modify any system file etc etc, you can essentially do anything.
Latest Nightly is a term used for the latest version of CyanogenMod, which is an aftermarket firmware (custom ROM) new versions are built on their servers every night hence the name Nightly.
drew071 said:
First of all welcome to the forums and we'll done for leaving Apple lol.
Nightly is a term given for a Rom that is released every night.mostly new mods and tweaks to improve or intend to improve on from the last nightly.these are seen as betas and every now and again a stable or milestone version will be released.
There is no real reason why you should root. It's whether you want to benefit from having full system control or not that you would do it. It's up to you.
Flashing roms such as super nexus does have its downside as it's built from open source. As Samsung do not release all of their sources some parts are taken from the open source project. This means they do not always take full advantage of the hardware. An example of this is the camera in aosp/aokp/cm roms is not as good as the stock camera in touch wiz roms.
Battery life is also reported to be better in stock Roms than on aokp/aosp/cm and from personal experience I'd have to agree.
Hope this helps a little.
There is a lot that can be done when rooted but if you're not fussed about messing with the system then dont do it.
Drew
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
Aosp looks considerably better than the stock firmwares also known as TouchWiz (Samsung's ghastly user interface)
But aosp-based roms for this phone sucks plain abs simple because Samsung doesn't hand out the source code for their SoC (System on a chip)
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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CM10.1 is very smooth and in my opinion even smoother compared to Stock TouchWiz. Just flash it and if you for some reason don`t like it, you can always go back to a Stock TouchWiz ROM. There are plenty to choose from here at XDA. Oh and don`t ask what`s the best ROM around here, just try them out yourself
Oh and if you deside to Root and to flash a ROM on your device then read every little detail on how to do it. I`ve seen plenty of cases here, where people screwed up their devices because they flashed wrong stuff on their phone.
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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Its considerably smoother! If CM10.1 is hot butter, then TouchWiz is cold syrup.
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BraeA said:
Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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Aosp looks considerably better than the stock firmwares also known as TouchWiz (Samsung's ghastly user interface)
But aosp-based roms for this phone sucks plain abs simple because Samsung doesn't hand out the source code for their SoC (System on a chip)
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It is smooth but as theshawty had pointed out it's not as good as it could be due to Sammy.
If you want a mix of both worlds you would do better looking for a stable stock based Rom and then theming it to suit. There isn't much to gain from flashing cm atm. If you want the launcher just download nova, apex or halo as these are the same as stock Google launcher used in cm builds.
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Rooting itself does not do much difference unless you flash roms. I suggest you try Cyanogenmod, AOKP for starters. Then you can go with others like RootBox, PAC man ROm or ParanoidKangdroid which for me are the best there are. Other ROMs like Carbon and Liquidsmooth are pretty good too.
I suggest you download Goomanager first and browse between compatible Roms. Also learn how to do Nandroid backups and regular. Trust me, you're gonna need them.
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As mentioned in previous posts cyanogen based roms FOR S3 in my opinion are not as smooth as expected. If u install a custom samsung based rom and a good kernel, i find that they are as smooth or sometimes smoother than cyanogen. Also the latest full stock samsung roms and kernels are really smooth and battery friendly.
As u dont have an issue in rooting. u should try all roms n decide.
And rooting does have many benefits. Especially the audio mods will completely change the audio quality of your phone. ACID with boeffla sound control is amazing. Get good quality earphones also to experience this.
Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
Jellybean Sandwich is really fantastic. It's based on ICS, so if you require Jellybean specific features it might not be for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356408
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How would one "qualify" their opinion with "crash frequency" if the rom they are using doesn't crash? There are many more roms than the ones you have listed.
Also, it has been my exprience that the 4.3 roms are very stable.
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I also second Jellybean sandwhich. It's great for stability, and since you would like to know to what extent I mean "stable" then this is what I mean...this ROM has NEVER crashed or rebooted on me, and for countless other users. It is an ICS based rom, with added jellybean features. It's a lightweight ROM, with not as many features as say AOKP, but many of those features can be added with "Xposed Mod" if you've ever used it. So you get the "speed" of jellybean, with the absolute stability of ICS. I highly recommend you try it out. People who have had trouble with the ROM (there are very few) have all induced the problems on their own, or probably have faulty hardware. I can vouch that if you wipe clean, and flash correctly everything will work right out of the box, except USB mount (which there is a fix to make it work), and a bug that gives you and "sd card damaged" notification when nothing is really wrong.
EDIT: If you want a fast touchwiz based ROM that is not necessarily Jellybean. I recommend Novena ROM. It's an older ROM but one of the fastest ROMs you can get for our phone. You may have to look on the second page in the development section as it hasn't been updated in months
Go to an ICS rom if you want speed and stability. No matter what anyone on these forums will say, you cannot, cannot, cannot find speed and stability in ANY jb rom. Some may have stability, but lack speed. If you just use them [jb roms] for a while, you can forget that they aren't fast and become accustomed to them, but if you touch an ICS ROM or a newer galaxy phone, you'll quickly be reminded that you're delusional.
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
Honestly, I'm using a stock deodexed/debloated ROM. Works just fine for me.
SkeletonKey, Padawan, JellyBeer, Prophylactic are all also great ones that I personally used a lot.
Your mileage may vary though.
captemo said:
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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PM sent my friend
I've been on Revolt for 2 weeks and no crashes. The only 'bug' is that sometimes when you press PWR to activate the phone, the capacitive buttons highlight but the screen stays blank. Press PWR twice (once to turn 'off' and again to turn back on) and you'll see the lock screen.
I was playing with the tweaks a lot, so this 'bug' could just be from something I did. Other than that it's blistering fast compared to Bell stock (yes, I'm on Bell too and feel your pain) and I'd recommend it to anyone.
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PM sent my friend
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Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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Canguy247 said:
Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
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Revolt is really good for me , you should this one
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Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
shayneflashindaily said:
Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
ZacksBuilds said:
Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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pm sent
Thanks man.
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The current beanstalk is smooth and stable.
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
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thanks bro
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There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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Wasn't so stable on my part....But everyone's phone works in misterous wayssssss
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I'm going to flash helly right now.
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