Five months on from buying this machine, I am still majorly impressed and excited by it. I don't think there is a better 7 inch device out there for user experience. I have spent hours checking out other tablets - particularly Samsung 7.7, 7 plus (owned), Sony S (own) and IPad and I always come back to this beast.
Was hesitant to switch to Honeycomb, but now, no regrets. Minimal / no freezes, great display, very user friendly keyboard and editing, unrivalled animation, fast, top design (consider the placement of volume to power buttons on this, compared to samsung's awkward button positioning) and great sound. Forgot to mention, the price is now irresistible. The only issue is the damn battery.
For me, the Flyer is a hit, big time. Interested to know what other long term users think...
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Well I just got mine today very impressed with it and the spen this is a keeper and I have had a lot of tablets too many to mention.
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Five months on from buying this machine, I am still majorly impressed and excited by it. I don't think there is a better 7 inch device out there for user experience. I have spent hours checking out other tablets - particularly Samsung 7.7, 7 plus (owned), Sony S (own) and IPad and I always come back to this beast.
Was hesitant to switch to Honeycomb, but now, no regrets. Minimal / no freezes, great display, very user friendly keyboard and editing, unrivalled animation, fast, top design (consider the placement of volume to power buttons on this, compared to samsung's awkward button positioning) and great sound. Forgot to mention, the price is now irresistible. The only issue is the damn battery.
For me, the Flyer is a hit, big time. Interested to know what other long term users think...
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For the price, this is the absolute best 7" Android tablet.
whmcal said:
Five months on from buying this machine, I am still majorly impressed and excited by it. I don't think there is a better 7 inch device out there for user experience. I have spent hours checking out other tablets - particularly Samsung 7.7, 7 plus (owned), Sony S (own) and IPad and I always come back to this beast.
Was hesitant to switch to Honeycomb, but now, no regrets. Minimal / no freezes, great display, very user friendly keyboard and editing, unrivalled animation, fast, top design (consider the placement of volume to power buttons on this, compared to samsung's awkward button positioning) and great sound. Forgot to mention, the price is now irresistible. The only issue is the damn battery.
For me, the Flyer is a hit, big time. Interested to know what other long term users think...
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I absolutely loooooove my flyer . I got the best buy wifi version when it first came out. And even though i may have over-payed for it i still love it. Really the n-trig feature is what set this apart from all of the other tablets. Without this feature i really couldn't justify this purchase to my wife (she figured it was just another gadget that i wanted). Then after i got it my wife fell in love with the functionality of it and got one herself. Then after that i had at least ten to fifteen coworkers and friends who purchased the flyer/view (even converted some from the dreaded Ipad). However, only one of them actually makes use of XDA and i highly doubt any of them makes use of or cherishes their tablet as much as i do). I know there are those that don't prefer honeycomb but when I switched to it (many thanks to Globatron) to me it opened up even that much more functionality of the tablet (I don't really play games on it). i I also like the current development that has been going on (really looking forward to ICS). Even though I continue to research the upcoming tablets (after all I am still a gadget guy) i don't see myself replacing my flyer any time soon. The only thing I may be interested in is the Galaxy Note due to it being a phone and only as a supplement to my flyer not as a replacement (i really don't want anything over the seven inch form factor). So to summarize as far as i am concern and for my purposes NOTHING BEATS THE FLYER.
If you can buy something like this and still love it five months on then it really says something, prices are going down so quick and devices getting faster/smaller.
Personally I bought mine when the UK price went down to £230, half-price, and I still love it, would be great if it were thinner & therefore lighter - I'll keep it for the next 18 months and then swap out. In this world today keeping such a gadget for about 2 years is a major success.
Versus an ipad2, ignoring cost, do I still think the Flyer is the better choice? The Flyer wins because of the pen - for me both devices are great for movies and games, but when it comes to making quick sketches in meetings Flyer wins hands-down, those "capacitive pens" I see people using with the ipad are a complete joke.
I am happy with my flyer, but maybe not so much with htc. 6 months into having the device I still enjoy it and have avoided any other device purchases since. htc and their failure to market/support the device would probably prevent me from ever buying one of their devices again. If I had paid full price for my flyer I probably would be pissed.
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I guess I didn't pay full price either, that's probably why I think this is such a great bargain for all that it does. I cannot believe I forgot to mention how good the pen was! I have the Galaxy Note too. However, for annotation and document highlighting, I only use the flyer. I agree though, that HTC could pull their finger out in terms of support for what is still a relatively new device.
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I just bought a Transformer TF300, so that means I'll probably be using my Flyer a bit less when I'm at home. But the Flyer goes with me everywhere, so she'll still see lots of love (at work, for instance).
At any rate, after 9 months of ownership I still think it's a fabulous device, and am still very impressed with the build quality. No regrets and no immediate plans to upgrade to a newer, faster 7" tablet. Yeah, the day will come, but I'm on no hurry.
i've had it since january, and i still love it. use it almost daily, get great battery life out of it, and i love using the pen to take notes instead of misplacing a bunch of little sticky notes!
A few months ago I sold a 7" 64GB Playbook (for a profit) and bought a used 32GB 3G Flyer.
My personal experience is that the Playbook is very good for watching movies. Linking the Playbook to an TV with an HDMI port was also straight forward (just plug it in) so a great media device.
However, I needed a device that had 3G and turn by turn navigation. The Playbook did not provide either of these so I bought the Flyer.
I then found out the the GPS signal on the Flyer looses lock and it cannot find my bluetooth GPS module. Therefore, it does not fulfill one of my principle requirement. Also getting the Flyer to display a movie on a TV is a real pain compared to the Playbook. So for displaying to a TV, the Playbook is better.
The pen on the Flyer is a huge hit with my young daughter. It will keep her happy for hours on a long trip.
So my conclusion
I like the Flyer, it is well made, has a good screen and a good size. Overall I prefer it to the Playbook.
But it is not perfect.
Had mine for about 8 months now or so. Generally very happy with it.
Certainly 7" is the size for me. 10" is a housebound form factor as far as I'm concerned, watching people trying to watch their iPad while standing on the tube or train is amusing.
That said, I thought Sense for Honeycomb was poor. I went back to Gingerbread, tho I noticed that there are several ICS ports around so I may try one of those.
I also feel like the scene is moving so fast that devices generally have really short lifespans at the moment, in terms of official and community support. We might see 2 more Android versions by the time the device starts getting out of date in terms of tech - I doubt they're gonna come to the Flyer, which means apps and services might not be available for an otherwise viable device.
All in all tho, well worth the investment.
I think I would of gotten the galaxy tab 7.0 plus if i had to do it again. I wanted a honeycomb tablet for around $200 to $300 and i saw the flyer had good specs and honeycomb and went for it. Didn't realize how much the honeycomb update ruins the thing. Now I'm back on gingerbread and while it runs alot better, gingerbread just isn't meant for tablets.
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I've had mine 10 days shy of a year (purchased May 26, 2011)
The main problem i see is with software support. HTC really dropped the ball by releasing a beta version of HC as the official update. I call it beta due to the gps bug...
If I had to do it over again, I'd have a Samsung or acer 7" tab instead. ICS isn't necessary, just something that works as intended.
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That's kinda my thoughts. If hc worked fine I'd be happy with it but it doesn't. It's like taking an old pc and putting vista on it
People say it's just business and I understand not giving us ics because of cost but leaving our tabs in the shape they are is just unacceptable. No reason why they can't just patch honeycomb imo. Personally they better just stay out of the tablet market from now on because I can't speak for everyone but I wouldn't buy another htc tablet!
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In the 7 inch market,,the flyer definitely rocks! I had been researching various tablets prior to the flyer's release and had all ready decided it was the one I wanted.
I had been a fan of HTC products for awhile. Their devices are solid and built to last. After owning a flyer for over a year it still works and feels like new. Nothing rattles or is loose in any way.
The processor isn't the fastest but still works great. For me the major selling points where the large capacity battery (4000 mAh) and the scribe pen.
My line of work invloves a lot of handwritten notes and sketches. Nothing even comes close to the flyer.
In addition the size of the flyer is extremely portable and can go with me anywhere. I wish HTC had better support of their tablets, that's my only gripe. Fortunately developers on xda will always find a way.
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In the 7 inch market,,the flyer definitely rocks! I had been researching various tablets prior to the flyer's release and had all ready decided it was the one I wanted.
I had been a fan of HTC products for awhile. Their devices are solid and built to last. After owning a flyer for over a year it still works and feels like new. Nothing rattles or is loose in any way.
The processor isn't the fastest but still works great. For me the major selling points where the large capacity battery (4000 mAh) and the scribe pen.
My line of work invloves a lot of handwritten notes and sketches. Nothing even comes close to the flyer.
In addition the size of the flyer is extremely portable and can go with me anywhere. I wish HTC had better support of their tablets, that's my only gripe. Fortunately developers on xda will always find a way.
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Overriding theme seems to be that this is a fantastic tablet, with good durability. However, HTC support (or lack of it) leaves a bitter taste
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Overriding theme seems to be that this is a fantastic tablet, with good durability. However, HTC support (or lack of it) leaves a bitter taste
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This is my feelings. Like the product but the company appears to not have a clue
That's really my thoughts. It's an excellent tablet and honestly its perfect on gingerbread, but to get the extra features honeycomb brings your sacrificing usability and stability. HTC left it in a bad place and wants to pretend it never existed. And now they are banking their whole future on the one series, and already hearing things about it like screwed up multitasking, battery life issues etc. And beats audio... Who cares really? My phone has it and its alot of money spent for an autotuned equalizer setting that only works with wired headphones, which does me no good anyway because I'm using a stereo bluetooth headset. HTC is clueless. They can yield good quality products but they can't support them to save their lives. And the flyer was purely a victim to bad marketing.
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I love it . I have several tablets and this View works great for me. I use the pen and lecture notes all day long and have the sprint $20 plan when I an not near wifi. I also use google voice so I can have the tablet be a phone too which works great on the plane too.
I can't imagine what features I would want that I don't have with the View.
I am excited about the windows 8 tablets but until then I am good to go. I actually bought two Views...one for backup.
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That's kinda my thoughts. If hc worked fine I'd be happy with it but it doesn't. It's like taking an old pc and putting vista on it
People say it's just business and I understand not giving us ics because of cost but leaving our tabs in the shape they are is just unacceptable. No reason why they can't just patch honeycomb imo. Personally they better just stay out of the tablet market from now on because I can't speak for everyone but I wouldn't buy another htc tablet!
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I think HTC would respond better for a GPS fix in honeycomb rather than everyone begging for ICS because that just won't happen from HTC.
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so im highly debating on getting a tablet this month since im going on a cross country road trip in august. i decided i didnt want to bring my netbook due to the fact that all i need in a device is to browse the internet, play movies, and play music.
so my question to you guys is if this tablet would be good for me. im so confused because i had my heart set on 4 different devices and then would change my mind the next day. those devices were a rooted nook color, samsung galaxy tab 7, asus transformer, and the htc flyer. has anyone else had these tabs would like to chime in and say why they went with the flyer instead? i read the forums and also played with demo units in best buy so i have an idea about build quality and size for all 4 units. i already have a mytouch 4g running 2.3.4 so i dont see why i should carry the flyer if its running 2.3.3. i could get the asus transformer for a cheaper price as well as honeycomb. but i read a lot of good reviews on this forum about the flyer so im getting confused. lol
i neeeddd helpppppp in choosing
So what is your longer term use case?
The Flyer is a great size, much better than a Transformer for instance for me. I found it more stable and faster than a Transformer. Android 2.3.3 (soon 2.3.4) with Sense seemed better than Honeycomb for me.
I use mine as an e-book reader, web browser and for a few games and videos. It is fantastic for these things. I personally dont even carry the pen any more, but it worked well when I tried it if that is your thing.
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So what is your longer term use case?
The Flyer is a great size, much better than a Transformer for instance for me. I found it more stable and faster than a Transformer. Android 2.3.3 (soon 2.3.4) with Sense seemed better than Honeycomb for me.
I use mine as an e-book reader, web browser and for a few games and videos. It is fantastic for these things. I personally dont even carry the pen any more, but it worked well when I tried it if that is your thing.
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well i wanted a tablet so i could take it to places and trips but also to use on the couch or bed instead of my netbook.
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well i wanted a tablet so i could take it to places and trips but also to use on the couch or bed instead of my netbook.
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so, go for Flyer then... beside of that, if you'll get a 3G version, you'll have SMS and MMS out from box, which I don't know how many other tablets does with out hacking.... I'm happy with my Flyer, and i have it from more than a month..
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well i wanted a tablet so i could take it to places and trips but also to use on the couch or bed instead of my netbook.
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thats the exact reason i wanted 1 as well. I couldnt be any happier with my choice, worked out great when i had a 2 day business trip to phx earlier this week.
heck right now im sitting out back in the hammock surfing the forums in between watching old episodes of Married With Children on Netflix
I currently own the flyer and the xoom. I find myself using the flyer more due to weight and portability. Honestly, the flyer is more responsive. It could be honeycomb problem, but it does fly when using. The op should go try it at bestbuy.
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I currently own the flyer and the xoom. I find myself using the flyer more due to weight and portability. Honestly, the flyer is more responsive. It could be honeycomb problem, but it does fly when using. The op should go try it at bestbuy.
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ive actually played with all 4 of the devices i listed minus the rooted nook color. ive only played with the stock firmware with the nook.
honestly they all seemed like nice devices. i just dont know if i should get the flyer or my other top choice which is the asus transformer. granted its heavier but it does have a bigger screen and honeycomb for a cheaper price. im just hoping other users who have had the tablets i listed could say why they chose the flyer instead of the others. im mostly concerned with usability and hardware/software performance more so than the screen size.
The Flyer specs (CPU, memory) beat the crap out of the Galaxy Tab 7" and a rooted Nook Color. So unless cost is your main concern, I'd go for more up-to-date technology.
As far as the Flyer vs. the Transformer, it comes down mostly to what form factor you like better, in other words screen size versus portability. And if you like Honeycomb, and the Transformer's keyboard accessory, then those are factors as well (although the Flyer is allegedly getting HC "soon").
As to why I bought the Flyer, I'm a big fan of HTC products. They make excellent products, and I've been waiting forever for them to release a tablet. The build quality is top notch. Some of the other tablets are okay in this regard, but usually plastic, and don't compare to the Flyer's sleek aluminum unibody.
I have a Galaxy Tab 7 inch and the Flyer 3G.
The Flyer is noticeably heavier than the 7 inch tab and does not have the phone dialler that the tab does, but having said that it is a better tablet by far.
My galaxy tab is rooted and overclocked but is no where near as capable as the Flyer whose processor just seems to munch through every task I throw at it.
Things I don't like about the Flyer are the touch screen which scratches so easily it might as well be made of butter! Appalling really for such a high end device that comes with a pen too, read the threads about scratched screens here.
If you do get one fit a screen protector.
The other disadvantage for me at the moment is no root capability although that may change soon?
The notes app with the pen is useful and coupled with evernote I use this a lot for work too.
I like HTC Sense, but at the moment I am using ADW launcher as I prefer the extra customisation options it gives, I use it on my galaxy s2 phone too.
IMHO the Flyer is the best 7 inch tab out there at the moment and I really like the portability of this form factor as it can be taken everywhere easily enough.
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If you want portability, go with a 7" tablet. But a larger 10" screen will make a better replacement for a netbook, in my opinion.
My Flyer is great portability and I really appreciate the pen integration for the workplace. Perfect for further transforming my workflow to digital. And much more discreet than pulling out the iPad for business meetings. Again pen integration is great for note taking in meetings. The portability is also great to bring guidebooks on travel. Drops into a pant pocket...
At home, my iPad stays upstairs in the bedroom as a substitute for my laptop. I can remote into my workstations in the basement and my laptop in the living room. The larger screen is more comfortable for surfing the internet, reading RSS feeds and browsing magazines. iOS got tiring though... no flash, no avi / mkv, difficult to download files... the garden walls got pretty tall.
Get an ASUS Transformer as a replacement for your laptop/netbook. Android, large screen, GPS, microSD, 802.11n... no 3G, but there's a Starbucks on every corner or an Android phone as a hotspot.
Just honest advice.
Hi All, I know I am about to get alot of attacks but please try give me a honest answer.
I currently own a Galaxy tab ans although it is a great device, I am a little disappointed with the updates on it. So, I am in the market for a new tablet.
The flyer looks like a fantastic option but looking at the forums, sounds like there is not much activity on development side. If I am wrong please correct me...
I love android, but it seems that the devices reach the sale by date too soon...
Thanks
Prices just dropped so I would imagine many will migrate....
But bigger issue is size and pen so I would never consider iPad.
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I'll be honest. I've had the Flyer since when they first came out, and I've yet to see a single OTA update.
So... how many developers are doing work on the projects here, anyone going to work on ifs?
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I'll be honest. I've had the Flyer since when they first came out, and I've yet to see a single OTA update.
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I've also had the Flyer since day 1, which in Netherlands was 17 May, and have meanwhile had three or four O/S updates.
The last update is not counted as I am now running on the beta Honeycomb rom (FlyHoney 0.02 version).
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Ipad2 and Flyer P512 just upgraded to FLYHONEY... with that being said, my uses leads me to the flyer. I utililize the pen and with the ipad2 cap pen it wasn't good enought for me.
I've played with the iPad. My Flyer suites me more. I like the portability, & customization of Android. Haven't changed ROMs, because I've been waiting for ICS. I have had about 3 OTA updates since getting it in September. The stylus helps for note taking in meetings h lectures. I have no use for my laptop since getting the Flyer. I'm bias towards Android, but iOS is very easy to use. It boils down to your own preference. But I know the 2nd gen of Samsung Galaxy Tabs are much better than the current crop, so if you're willing to wait take your time before buying.
I have both and I think I like the Ipad a tad bit better. That's mainly because I am heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem with 4 apple tvs, 4 macs, and 2 ipads. I like the fact that the ipad is more universally supported and you can literally get a app for everything. There are some anatomy apps on the ipad that I used last semester that really helped me with my grades. One of the killer apps for the ipad is airplay. When I have company over, I can easily pull something up on the ipad and show it on any of our HDTVs. I can't let go of the flyer though because I use it to take all my math notes and lecture notes at school. If I was away from home more often, I could see myself using the flyer much more especially since it has awesome battery life. I like it because it is pocketable and I can easily make a grocery list and just throw it in my pocket with the stylus. I once tried putting my ipad in my pocket and my wife thought I was really happy to see her =)
I have Flyer since first launch in my country (june 2011), there are only two (2) security update via OTA...I really want to have ICS on Flyer ....
Ipad2 is a very good device (I have both Ipad and Ipad2)... easy to use, always updated OS and I have purchased many apps and they are very useful... too bad that Ipad2 doesnt have Magic Pen otherwise I would sell my Flyer
Cheers
PS. my Flyer need to be charged every night so power hungry while the performance is not really special
I tried the iPad 2 against my Flyer, and I just couldn't justify the additional $400 for the iPad 2 (not a fair comparison - really more like $300 - I had a 64gb WiFi, and my Flyer specs would be a 32gb iPad). Still, you can (or at least could - looks like it is unavailable right now) buy TWO Flyers to ONE iPad. With Magic Pens down to $39, that just made the Flyer a no brainer (although I am no longer one of the cool kids at the office anymore).
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I tried the iPad 2 against my Flyer, and I just couldn't justify the additional $400 for the iPad 2 (not a fair comparison - really more like $300 - I had a 64gb WiFi, and my Flyer specs would be a 32gb iPad). Still, you can (or at least could - looks like it is unavailable right now) buy TWO Flyers to ONE iPad. With Magic Pens down to $39, that just made the Flyer a no brainer (although I am no longer one of the cool kids at the office anymore).
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It doesnt happen here in my country...
Flyer price when I bought it was very expensive Rp7,000,000 (USD777) while Ipad 2 was and is Rp8,000,000 (USD888), but Ipad 2 has 64GB and dual core cortex A9
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It doesnt happen here in my country...
Flyer price when I bought it was very expensive Rp7,000,000 (USD777) while Ipad 2 was and is Rp8,000,000 (USD888), but Ipad 2 has 64GB and dual core cortex A9
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That definitely turns the economics upside down, and then the non-iPad manufacturer faces teh problem I have seen REPEATEDLY in Best Buy where a customer asks the same questio over and over again: "Why should I buy a Xoom/Samsung/RIM/Asus/whatever when I can get a 'REAL iPAD' for the same price or less?" Kind of leads credence to the line fo thinking that there is no "tablet" market, only an "iPad" market.
Much happier with my custom Flyer running LeeDroid 2.1. Did not like lugging around the iPad2. Gave it to my wife.
To say I can't live without my MacBook Pro, I hate everything else Apple has out. Advantage Flyer.
Good day all. I'm a Best Buy Silver member and have 45 day returns on merchandise. Anyways I picked up the Flyer a week ago and compared to the other tabs I have owned or own (Asus, Acer A500 and A100, HP Touchpad) this is the best in terms of overall functions. Another reason why I say that is because 10 inch tabs are over-the-top; especially if they don't have any ports (that's why I kept the Acer A500). I find 7-9 inchers are more usable. This Flyer is smooth and functions properly unlike most of the Honeycomb tabs. My only concern is will HTC update this beautiful beast? So I'm posing the question to the community of whether to ditch the Flyer or wait it out. Also any input or thoughts about the Samsung 7.0 Plus and if its worth the extra $100 are appreciated
I wish HTC would say something offical and it will make my decision clear.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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Yea this tablet game is crazy. Sometimes I wish I would have been simple and gotten an iPad. Android is getting ridiculous. Anyways the inferred remote, updates, and Samsung usually has a decent amount of accessories is what's keeping me interested. I just have a bad feeling that the flyer is dead.
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its maddening. HTC built an almost perfect tablet in the FLyer and then overpriced it at introduction and has failed to support it properly now. Makes me wonder if they are exiting the tablet market.
I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I think the Xoom 2 is a 8.2. I perfer the 7 inch, because I played with the Samsung 8 inch but it is tad big. I'm looking for something I can whip out in public and not look ridiculous. I think the Xoom will cost $545 though, didn't they learn anything?
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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chimp
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Thank you, but the Nexus S is a phone, isn't it? And, yeah the 10" tab is going to be too large.
I'll have to get to Best Buy and see if they at least have an HTC Flyer on display that I can fiddle with.
I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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You are right. I looked at some benchmark test it test better then every HC tab except te Samsung 10.1
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Black Friday will probably yield some good deals, so I'm at least hanging tight for that pricing to come out before jumping on anything - and I think I'm going to sell my Ipod Touch, latest gen, NEVER use it.
Ahhh, eBay (or friends on FB, lol)
I have the flyer and I love it! It's built super solid, its very fast, and I love how it scales apps in contrast to how to Galaxy tab did. On a 7" device I would end up using more phone apps then tablet apps anyway, so I don't care about honeycomb. I love my Flyer! The only thing that may replace it is the Galaxy Note...but then again I may still keep it since its really not worth it to only get $200 used for it. Hell, I'd keep it for that just to lend out or use it as a dedicated clock!
I used to be a active user here on XDA when Wondows mobile was the "cool" Mobile OS. Then I bought a iPod Touch when my father bought into the iPhone 3G. I got sucked into Apple with the 3GS, then the 4. I bought a 64gb 3g iPad when it came out, as well...but then I bought a ATT 3g Galaxy Tab refurbished just to try out android....and fell in love.(it made me feel like I used to with windows mobile...the customization) I kept the TAB for a few months then decided to sell both my iPad and my Tab and buy a iPad wifi for cheap, and a Flyer. I canceled my contract and used my unlimited ipad SIM in my Jailbroken iPhone 4....Loving life($30 a month is my only phone bill!)! That iPhone may be downgraded to a mp3 player though....since I am eye balling the Galaxy Note now.
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I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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The WiFi version is $300 on Amazon. But yes, the GSM one that I want is still pretty pricey. If I got the original Tab, though, I'd just pick it up from eBay or the forums or something. Or, maybe it will be on sale during Black Friday, since any retailers that still have them need to clear their inventory to make room for the Plus.
This is a hard decision, to be honest. After doing some more research on the Flyer, it seems that the easiest one to acquire in the States (the WiFi one from Best Buy), is also the one that throws up hurdles for modders, such as the inability to go back to stock from a custom ROM.
Now I'm kind of back at square one, debating between the original Tab, the Tab Plus, the Flyer, the IdeaPad A1, and pending more details and reviews, the Huawei MediaPad.
Here is a good deal on a new HTC view for 229.99. No contract required.
http://1saleaday.com/
Nice to see that it's back at this price point for the people who missed out last month.
I purchased mine from this site when they offered it back in December. It arrived in less than a week and in brand new condition. I had no complaints whatsoever.
I placed an order this morning...Back in the box Kindle Fire, time to go back!
I'm thinking about picking it up. I have a Streak 7, which despite all the complaints, I don't think is that bad. The only thing holding me from buying this is going from a dual core down to a single core. Has anyone had both of these devices? How quick is the Evo? Thanks in advance.
I got one on the previous deal, thinking about getting another lol
I purchased one from this site again and I am purchasing a second one now so I can play with rooting and using other ROMs. The extra set of cables and charges are a benefit to me a well. I am sure I will be turning to you all at some point for what do do with the second system and how best to customize it. I hope that at some point ICS will be available too through customization.
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I purchased one from this site again and I am purchasing a second one now so I can play with rooting and using other ROMs. The extra set of cables and charges are a benefit to me a well. I am sure I will be turning to you all at some point for what do do with the second system and how best to customize it. I hope that at some point ICS will be available too through customization.
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Makes two of us.
Bought the second View yesterday - this time for myself
I just bought a Kindle Fire and put CM7 on it. So far I love it but this deal has me seriously considering selling the KF and picking up the Evo View.
What kind of differences will I notice in processing power, if any?
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I just bought a Kindle Fire and put CM7 on it. So far I love it but this deal has me seriously considering selling the KF and picking up the Evo View.
What kind of differences will I notice in processing power, if any?
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I am running CM7 on the Kindle Fire as well. I don't think it is that snappy at all. I am actually thinking the single core 1.5ghz processor will seem faster plus the 1gig of ram should help as well.
This device offers so much more then the KF at this price it cannot be passed up. With the addition of a front and back camera, bluetooth, 32 gigs of memory, official honeycomb update, that is enought to satisfy me. Plus nothing will seem as snappy as my Epic 4G touch anyway, even the KF with it's dual core isn't even in the same league as E4GT.
I'm wondering if I should pick one up or wait for the new Asus tablet, the 370T
I jumped on this deal this morning, as well. I look forward to putting my Nook Color on eBay or CraigsList in a week or two and joining you guys here in these forums. I just wish the deal had been through Amazon so I could have it on Monday - this week is going to kill me!
I'm no dev or anything, usually just a lurker with a couple posts here and there. But this place seems much more civil than a lot of the other XDA forums I've been in, so maybe that will change.
Now I'm off to shop for some accessories while I'm in limbo. Woohoo!
Screen?
Really considering this deal. I have a Nook Tablet and I really wish it had a front camera, working bluetooth, and to some extent, GPS. I do however really like the screen on the NT. How's the screen on the View? Can you move off center in all directions and it still looks great? Poor performance in the screen is the kind of fundamental niggle I just can't live with. How about responsiveness? Is the GUI relatively fluid?
wow I was wondering if that deal would ever come again. great tablet. I had a nook tablet before the view, but I just couldn't stand not having the real android market and I envied the stylus input. I'd say the screen is exceptionally responsive and fluid when compared to the nt. It really feels like a $500-$700 tablet slashed down to $230. its a steal. I almost want to buy a backup tablet in case anything happens to this one.
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I'm wondering if I should pick one up or wait for the new Asus tablet, the 370T
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You could buy this now, use it until that one comes out, and still get $200-250 for the View on Craigslist.
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You could buy this now, use it until that one comes out, and still get $200-250 for the View on Craigslist.
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If it does everything I need, I will go with the View. How thick/heavy is it compared to Fire? I wasn't impressed with how heavy the Fire was.
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Really considering this deal. I have a Nook Tablet and I really wish it had a front camera, working bluetooth, and to some extent, GPS. I do however really like the screen on the NT. How's the screen on the View? Can you move off center in all directions and it still looks great? Poor performance in the screen is the kind of fundamental niggle I just can't live with. How about responsiveness? Is the GUI relatively fluid?
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I had the NT, even rooted it with your MAC script. I liked it a lot but could not live with the fussing around regarding the OTA update. B&N's stance on hacking their device has really soured my taste toward them so I returned it. I picked up a WiFi Flyer and haven't looked back. The screen is basically the same as the NT, just as good, if not better viewing angles. However, the NT has slightly less glare. The responsiveness is at least as good as the NT if not better. I even like the overall feel of the Flyer over the NT. It isn't as thin, but it feels stronger and better made. Anyways, I can pretty much guarantee you won't miss the NT at all.
What are the chances this thing will get ICS? Rather official, or CM9 support?
The price for this tablet is great, but if this tablet won't have ICS I'm going to wait awhile for the new tablets to come out.
View eats all other 7-8" tablets for breakfast.
Been there, done this.
Ordered my second View.
Returned my Vizio 8" to the store.
Life is good
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I am running CM7 on the Kindle Fire as well. I don't think it is that snappy at all. I am actually thinking the single core 1.5ghz processor will seem faster plus the 1gig of ram should help as well.
This device offers so much more then the KF at this price it cannot be passed up. With the addition of a front and back camera, bluetooth, 32 gigs of memory, official honeycomb update, that is enought to satisfy me. Plus nothing will seem as snappy as my Epic 4G touch anyway, even the KF with it's dual core isn't even in the same league as E4GT.
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I concur. I have Both the KF & HTC EVO View 4g and the View is Much, Much faster and snappier than the KF. I LOVE it since HC was put on and the Stylus works soooooo much better since HC. I use the View all the time AND I have a Xoom WiFi WITH ICS and still use the View more because I can Write to the SD Card whenever I want. Whereas my Xoom is a GED Device and even thou it has ICS there still is NO Write ability to the SD Card Internally, which to me gimps the device. I put a PNY 32GB Class 10 in my View for Extra Storage and have a Otterbox Defender on it. Awesome Device.
DON'T get caught up in the Dual Core vs Single Core issue with this device. HTC Optimized the View Magnificently with Sense and HC that it's really FAST and Buttery Smooth.
I just ordered mine. I was sorta reluctant, because I am not a fan of Sense. I currently have an Acer Iconia A100 that I got from Best Buy for $180. I will give the View 4G a shot (fingers crossed that CM will hit this thing). I just know that one tablet will be on the Craigslist soon. Also, I read this review after making the purchase:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/15/htc-evo-view-4g-review/
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I'm in the market for a $200 Tablet. I can find many Flyers for sale for about $200. There all 16G, and come with the Pen. So I was woundering. Are you Users happy with this device? Or would you rather have another cheap tablet like the Fire or Nook.
Thank You
PS. How's N64oid handle on this Tablet?
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I'm in the market for a $200 Tablet. I can find many Flyers for sale for about $200. There all 16G, and come with the Pen. So I was woundering. Are you Users happy with this device? Or would you rather have another cheap tablet like the Fire or Nook.
Thank You
PS. How's N64oid handle on this Tablet?
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I have a Flyer, which I bought (as many people did) around Christmas-time for $200. I use it quite often, to read pdfs, play games, bring with me to use wireless (I don't have a phone). I like it for what it is.
However, that said, I would not recommend dropping $200 for one right now. Maybe if you can grab one for $150 (there was mention of a deal like that in the general forum). Development by HTC on the Flyer has pretty much stopped, with no plans to go forward. There is some nice development going on by XDA members (like Lee's LeeDroid), but beyond that, not much more.
In my opinion, the biggest sign of the problem is with the well-known GPS problem on Honeycomb, which does not allow the device to maintain a lock. HTC is aware of the problem, but there is no fix (nevermind a statement that a fix is in progress). That's a statement of the official development going on. Other problems for me is the hurried HTC Scribe pen integration; some XDA members have created better programs (Quill and Papyrus, for instance), but again, the lack of care by HTC is apparent. The pen feature was rushed, and it shows. XDA members and development are keeping this device afloat, but that's the only reason.
It's a competitive market right now in the tablet market, and unless you have a real winner, then products will be quickly phased in and out. The HTC, as much as I hate to admit it, because as I said, I do make use of mine quite a bit...has been on its way out ever since December 2011 when the prices got slashed.
This is a hard choice for me. I like being able to hack up things, and test out roms. I was told to get this, but I will be getting a new Job soon. Paying much better, and that ASUS Prime is calling me. I just want a tablet for now, and the Kindle Fire seems the best choice. I can complile ICS, and use a 3.0 Linux kernel. :T Why's it so hard to do this. Being a ROM junkie sucks.
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the fire is a piece of junk in comparison. If all you want is a compilled ics then ok, but every aspect of the flyer is superior to the fire and nook
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the fire is a piece of junk in comparison. If all you want is a compilled ics then ok, but every aspect of the flyer is superior to the fire and nook
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+1 to that. I bought the Flyer a few weeks after its release for $599 and don't regret a single penny spent. In the Flyer, you are paying $200 for a $599 high quality tablet. That's a bargain, no matter how you look at it. Buying a Fire, you are just getting a crappy cheapo $200 tablet for $200. The Fire has so many features missing, its not even funny (cameras, SD slot, GPS, microphone, Bluetooth, compass, gyro).
I'm trying to sell mine via Swappa for $230.
PM me if you're interested.
16 GB Wifi only
HTC Stylus
Otterbox case
Screen protector since day one
16 GB microSD card
Original box/USB Cable/AC adapter
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I just bought one and love it. I love the scribe integration
(though dont drop 50-80 on the HTC pen, Get the fujitsu pen $20-30 and does the same thing.)
I will end up putting the photoshop touch app on it, not the free express one.
the 7 in form factor is perfect for me. I had a xoom and liked it for a while but it gets really heavy and hard to hold in one hand.
so the flyer feels much better in one hand, assuming you dont have toddler hands.
the CPU is adequate for anything i could throw at it, and can OC as well.
gpu is pretty good so games wont be a problem. as for n64oid, It would all depend on the game that youre emulating. most devices can handle mario64 and zelda and mariocart. hit or miss really. but its been a while since ive used n64oid (since i picked up a used n64 from my local game store
camera is mediocre. My SGS2 has a better one so i wont use it to take pics or videos but will use the front one for video chat.
im not concerned about GPS issues either, my phone does it.
all in all, I want something that i can use easily when my phones dying and needs to charge, or dont feel like looking at my phones small screen anymore for long web browsing sessions and the 7in form factor and the scribe is def a deal breaker.