Related
Ok, totally nervous and anxious noob here. I had a question about the capabilities of the modem in this phone. My coworker has a captivate, and he told me all about the stuff you do here, and how he upgraded his modem to 4g. Is the vzw variant capable of the same? I've been reading the threads for a few weeks now, trying to figure out what to get, and now I'm just confused with the whole process, but that's a topic for another day.
Thanks.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Not. . . . . . . . . . . .
No.
The captivate can do HSPA which is all of the sudden be marketed as 4G (as HSPA+) but only up to the device limit of 7M.
That is one of ATT/TMO's ways of saying 4G.
VZN is using LTE which is different from their current CDMA#K which means phones can not take advantage of it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA Premium App
Yeah, no. The "4G" he is talking about is not really 4G. It's a fake 4G.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/comparisons/htc-inspire-4g-vs-htc-thunderbolt-4g-speed-test/
but wait......i thought if you put 4g icons in your theme....then it unlocked that super secret lte radio that came with the fascinate!?!?!
Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
aaronDroid80 said:
Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
aaronDroid80 said:
Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its not really 4G, the phone works fine and as intended. If you want 4g, then go get a 4g phone from verizon(who has the best 4g network at the moment, forget ATT's crap)
Musicmaster said:
So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hahahah, this. +1
HSPA and LTE are different tech, just like CDMA#k and HSPA. HSPA has the same speed capability as LTE but the drasticly different delivery mechanism makes it a loser for these kind of tests.
LTE is the true future tech even though it doesn't meet 4G guidelines. Future HSPA evolutions are just going to be like new and improved satellite TDMA systems.... larger pipe for more terminals... but dont ldt ths customer know how many terminals there are.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA Premium App
Musicmaster said:
So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I had my choice, I would've gone with AT&T for numerous reasons, but given my circumstance, VZW was my only option. Big Red has a track record of making things difficult for the end user (like upgrading phones). I love this phone, and the service is good, but it's a bit discouraging that I'll have to wait 2 years to get a faster phone when this one has capable hardware being held back by them.
Sorry for the rant. Basically, I'm anxiously awaiting the day when I can cut the bloat and let this thing fly. Keep up the awesome work, and I'll keep reading until I get all the pieces together.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
The captivate doesn't do 4g..the guy just has a theme that changed his icon to show 4g when he still has 3g. And neither phone has the hardware to run 4g.
At&t has **** for service...hence the REAL reason iPhone is with vzw now. I will never pay for at&t again.
im hearing 05/18 for the new evo LTE....will it be as big as evo 4g when it first came out??
Physically? Bigger, lol... But if you mean public attention, no. I'm sure nothing ever will be since the EVO was the first 4G phone.
breallife said:
im hearing 05/18 for the new evo LTE....will it be as big as evo 4g when it first came out??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well...thanks for starting a new thread on something that there is already multiple threads on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645450
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643083
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641153
Also, to answer your question....no...it won't. It is not a game changer like the Evo 4G was.
tgruendler said:
Well...thanks for starting a new thread on something that there is already multiple threads on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645450
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643083
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641153
Also, to answer your question....no...it won't. It is not a game changer like the Evo 4G was.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL, ummm sorry but that is just your opinion. You really have no idea how its gonna sell.
swaze said:
LOL, ummm sorry but that is just your opinion. You really have no idea how its gonna sell.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are right...and thanks for pointing that out that I have no idea. The OP asked and I gave my opinion as there is no way to know for sure so everybody that replys to the OP will be giving their opinion. I guess you will be pointing that out to them as well?
tgruendler said:
You are right...and thanks for pointing that out that I have no idea. The OP asked and I gave my opinion as there is no way to know for sure so everybody that replys to the OP will be giving their opinion. I guess you will be pointing that out to them as well?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, but your statement was worded as if its fact. See the difference?
Wow, this thread isn't locked yet? In before it gets the hammer.
swaze said:
Yea, but your statement was worded as if its fact. See the difference?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
It will not be as big as the OG 4G. As stated above, it's not a game changer, and the same (very similar) device is available on most other carriers. Not to mention the fact that there is NO lte right now, and sprint's 3g is slower than AOL dial-up.
Hi. Just posting some non sense to release some anger I have towards Virgin Mobile right now.
Sent From My Half Dead HTC Evo 3D, On The Now Network From Virgin Mobile?
I think the Lte will be as big as the OG, mostly because of the "updated" camera HTC is throwing out there now...but I'm waiting til Dallas actually has LTE, which probably won't be long...
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2
I doubt it will be as big as the OG Evo. We're in a different time than we were 2 years ago. Sprint was the first carrier with 4G running on an Android OS. 3G was a lot faster then. Now you have the selling point of LTE..well LTE isn't even on in the test markets while other carriers are already up and running on LTE or something similar they call 4G while Sprint's 3G is sloooooooooow. I'm usually day 1 with flagship phones but not this time. I'll get one or the newest hotness once the LTE roadmap has my city on it.
Those thank yous were a mistake. Had to hide my phone I'm at work. I'm definitely getting the LTE no matter what.
Method1911 3DLTE
I don't think it will be as big. People were hyped about the EVO 4G, and now here a LOT of us sit, with our 2nd WiMAX capable phone..without ever being able to use WiMAX. There is no way people are gonna trust Sprint to deliver them LTE in their area during the time that they keep the phone...especially when other carriers are now offering much better 4G. Competition kills it..the EVO 4G had no competition.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
.....So, the LG Viper does SVDO (Simultaneous 1X/3G voice/data) and according to reports, the EVO LTE also supports this. How great would it be if this phone, like the LG Viper, had it working out of box?!
Even more of a reason that I'm getting one.
freeza said:
.....So, the LG Viper does SVDO (Simultaneous 1X/3G voice/data) and according to reports, the EVO LTE also supports this. How great would it be if this phone, like the LG Viper, had it working out of box?!
Even more of a reason that I'm getting one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Links to these reports bud?
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
I didn't think CDMA could handle this. Would be great and cut down on my wish for GSM but still. LTE will allow this anyways from what I remember.
Will
shellguy said:
I didn't think CDMA could handle this. Would be great and cut down on my wish for GSM but still. LTE will allow this anyways from what I remember.
Will
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't realize people didn't know this yet. If you read the FCC docs posted last month the lab tests showed it. It's not so much a CDMA thing as it is a phone/hardware thing. You can Google it to find out more. And correct you can do simultaneous voice/data with LTE the same way you could with WiMAX or WiFi.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA
But he is talking about doing a voice call and 3g at the same time if I am correct....
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
ckoadiyn said:
But he is talking about doing a voice call and 3g at the same time if I am correct....
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, sorry if my post is confusing. It's responding to two parts of the same comment.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA
Here http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-159-htc-evo-4g-lte-tech-details-revealed-in-fcc-oet-filing/
That is game changing if it works...
shellguy said:
I didn't think CDMA could handle this. Would be great and cut down on my wish for GSM but still. LTE will allow this anyways from what I remember.
Will
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The HTC Thunderbolt on Verizon has been able to do this for a while now, but only in select cities that had their towers upgraded to support it.
Yeah, I know the phone supports it, lets just hope sprint allows it!!
Shinzul said:
That is game changing if it works...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly, I just hope Sprint is very bullish with OEMs making their phones SVDO capable. They will have two phones with Viper and Evo 4G LTE. Hopefully all of their LTE phones going forward will be both SVDO and SVLTE capable. AT&T will no longer be able to run those commercials bragging about using data while on a phone call.
Btw glad to see you here.
---------- Post added at 11:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:25 AM ----------
oOflyeyesOo said:
Yeah, I know the phone supports it, lets just hope sprint allows it!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well as stated the LG Viper supports it as well. SVDO isn't really new, it's just now being implimented in our phones. So it's safe to say that Sprint is allowing for it since they had the OEM include it as well as it was tested in the lab.
Cordy said:
Exactly, I just hope Sprint is very bullish with OEMs making their phones SVDO capable. They will have two phones with Viper and Evo 4G LTE. Hopefully all of their LTE phones going forward will be both SVDO and SVLTE capable. AT&T will no longer be able to run those commercials bragging about using data while on a phone call.
Btw glad to see you here.
---------- Post added at 11:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:25 AM ----------
Well as stated the LG Viper supports it as well. SVDO isn't really new, it's just now being implimented in our phones. So it's safe to say that Sprint is allowing for it since they had the OEM include it as well as it was tested in the lab.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think I've been hoping for SVDO just as long as I've been hoping for EVDO-Rev B. And this was pre-EVO.
That's one down, the other may never happen, which is ok.
This would be an awesome feature, not that I would use it all the time but have at least wanted it for years.
Finally! Now I can actually talk on bluetooth while using my phone at the same time. Before I had to use that ****ty company issued T-Mobile MiFi...
This may sounds really ignorant, but why would this be beneficial? I've never yearned for this feature, and now I can't think of a time I'd need it honestly. Examples?
PsiPhiDan said:
This may sounds really ignorant, but why would this be beneficial? I've never yearned for this feature, and now I can't think of a time I'd need it honestly. Examples?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're in an hour long call while on a bus/car/train or whatever, and you're using a bluetooth headset or earpiece, this is VERY useful. I travel a lot so I find myself in this situation a lot.
And it's good for pretty much just about any bluetooth situation. If you're talking and want to use the internet on your phone, you're ****ed.
yousefak said:
If you're in an hour long call while on a bus/car/train or whatever, and you're using a bluetooth headset or earpiece, this is VERY useful. I travel a lot so I find myself in this situation a lot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess I don't find myself in many hour long calls, which is why I didn't think of this. Thank you though!
PsiPhiDan said:
I guess I don't find myself in many hour long calls, which is why I didn't think of this. Thank you though!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, they don't have to be that long, it's just if you're trying to have a convo on the phone and want to use 3G, it's good.
I guess it doesn't appeal to that many people, but it's still a great feature to have nonetheless
yousefak said:
Yeah, they don't have to be that long, it's just if you're trying to have a convo on the phone and want to use 3G, it's good.
I guess it doesn't appeal to that many people, but it's still a great feature to have nonetheless
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey, I'm all for extra features! Some things I may never have used (due to an inability to do so) may now begin to be used by me since I'll have the ability.
PsiPhiDan said:
Hey, I'm all for extra features! Some things I may never have used (due to an inability to do so) may now begin to be used by me since I'll have the ability.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same thing happened to me with AOSP --> Sense ROMs. When I first got my Evo 3D, I loaded an AOSP ROM and 4G was broken. I never really knew much about 4G since I never (literally never) used it before. After switching back to Sense with working 4G and trying it out, although spotty, now I can't live without it
ive been reading around the forums, and now im wondering if 4G LTE is already working in NYC ?
or DEVs have found a way into LTE with ROOTED devices ?
thanks
UltimateEnd said:
ive been reading around the forums, and now im wondering if 4G LTE is already working in NYC ?
or DEVs have found a way into LTE with ROOTED devices ?
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Who the hell been feeding you all that bulls***?
Sent from my EVO using XDA
shook187 said:
Who the hell been feeding you all that bulls***?
Sent from my EVO using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
one CM9 ROM specifically says to text the LTE, i guess thats for specific people using it ..
UltimateEnd said:
wondering if 4G LTE is already working in NYC ?
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Been from Central Park & Down to Battery Park Sunday...so no.
Not to mention although they're in the 1st round, I haven't heard of any work being done yet.
Oh & root/ROM has nothing to do with connecting to it.
They have been testing towers and only certain keys have access. I have 2 ltes one gets 4g one doesn't. I'm in Chicago.
Sent from my EVO LTE using Tapatalk.
I don't even know how to turn on my LTE. Definitely shouldn't be working anywhere though, from everything I've read.
Sent from my LTEvo
Depends on where you are...If you get lucky, you can catch a tower that is being tested, but this is not normal. They should not be "live", but upon occasion you can get one in the network vision upgrade areas.
I had one for about 35 minutes in central Wisconsin last week (and they still havent disabled WiMax after over a month). It just pops up and goes dark.
Something tells me the LTE towers are going to light up in quick order as the towers upgrades get finished in staged areas.
mattemer said:
I don't even know how to turn on my LTE. Definitely shouldn't be working anywhere though, from everything I've read.
Sent from my LTEvo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
are you serious ?
and i cant believe this phone isnt even 4G -
im stuck with 3G untill LTE is out officially ...
the worse coming from the Galaxy NOTE !
bender_123 said:
(and they still havent disabled WiMax after over a month).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And they won't be pulling WiMax down anytime soon. End of 2015 I think...Maybe 14.
UltimateEnd said:
are you serious ?
and i cant believe this phone isnt even 4G -
im stuck with 3G untill LTE is out officially ...
the worse coming from the Galaxy NOTE !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You'll be getting it sooner than others being in a 1st round city.
Sent from my EVO LTE
if I'm not mistaken, certain areas in Texas will be the first to officially have LTE when it is deployed. In the network settings, you have the option to either use 3G/4G lte or just 3G cdma. I'd switch to just 3G for the time being. WiMax will be around until the end of 2015 as Sprint still has a contractual agreement with Clearwire, their current 4G WiMax provider.
drdagreenphd said:
if I'm not mistaken, certain areas in Texas will be the first to officially have LTE when it is deployed. In the network settings, you have the option to either use 3G/4G lte or just 3G cdma. I'd switch to just 3G for the time being. WiMax will be around until the end of 2015 as Sprint still has a contractual agreement with Clearwire, their current 4G WiMax provider.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3G/4G LTE or just 3G CDMA
i guess it wouldnt really matter whichever i have it on , speed will be the same in the end yes ?
maybe only save a little on battery(debatable)
P.S - congratz on your first "Thank you" ^_^
UltimateEnd said:
ive been reading around the forums, and now im wondering if 4G LTE is already working in NYC ?
or DEVs have found a way into LTE with ROOTED devices ?
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No.
UltimateEnd said:
3G/4G LTE or just 3G CDMA
i guess it wouldnt really matter whichever i have it on , speed will be the same in the end yes ?
maybe only save a little on battery(debatable)
P.S - congratz on your first "Thank you" ^_^
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no problem, just passing information.. thanks for the "thanks" btw.
As the title reads, for those of you who are running the update that was just released, are LTE handoffs working better? Have you noticed any improvement in LTE as a result of the update?
LTE (which is only available in some parts of my city, Vallejo, CA) handoffs after the update seem to be more-or-less the same here.
Thanks for weighing in Jigsaw. I live in NYC and in my neighborhood we have LTE. Trying to see if I should do the update.
I'm in Kansas City, no change for me.
I get great 4G at work, all the time.
For about a month I had good 4G at home. But lately at home, 4G will show up for a minute or so, then go back to 3G. Never sticks anymore. Don't know what changed, but I didn't change anything on my phone and have even flashed back to stock once to see if that helped.
Did you flash the jellybean update?
I'm in Dallas, TX and it seems the radio update has done me no good. I am wondering if the tower upgrades they are doing is the problem.
https://network.sprint.com/NY/New-York/
AliLaPointe said:
Did you flash the jellybean update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup, new radios and ROM. No change.
Still don't understand why I had 4G at home for a month, no problems, then all of a sudden I don't.
My handoffs were perfect before the update on sense and are still perfect now.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Theres a Q and A section where this should be... because its a question.
fgr said:
Yup, new radios and ROM. No change.
Still don't understand why I had 4G at home for a month, no problems, then all of a sudden I don't.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Happened to me too. Sprint tech said I am in an area that was "testing" lte. So now after 2 months of lovely 4g I'm back to the unbearable 3g :banghead:
youdug said:
Theres a Q and A section where this should be... because its a question.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude, really? You're being obnoxious.
funcrusher said:
Dude, really? You're being obnoxious.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Youre right i am. Theres a q and a section for a reason. If we started posting everywhere no one would find anything.
I'm in the exact same boat. So it's not just my area that's doing this, then. I don't know what to think about that.
I was consistently pulling down 20-30Mbps and anywhere from 6-10Mbps up until about a week and a half ago. Slightly worrying.
3G speeds are fine with me, honestly. Not really any harm there as long as it's consistently available. The faster speeds were definitely appreciated, though. It'd be nice to know what's happening.
The only reason I'm checking xda is to see if these radios have fixed the lte problem. Kinda nice to see it posted right here. There was a thread the other day about cm10 fixing the eHRPD issue that was removed too. Glad I saw it when I did.
youdug said:
Youre right i am. Theres a q and a section for a reason. If we started posting everywhere no one would find anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think this is a Q and A topic - I think this is someone asking other people's' opinion about the update. Q and A is 1 question looking for 1 answer.... BUT this is just my OPINION
travlincablguy said:
I'm in Dallas, TX and it seems the radio update has done me no good. I am wondering if the tower upgrades they are doing is the problem.
https://network.sprint.com/NY/New-York/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm in Dallas also I get coverage in Uptown and along 75 inbetween 635 and 30.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
lte 3g hand off
I'm in Minnesota and have the jb update. No change for me. This sucks what's up with this phone.
Edit: tried a few different towers and it does work better. Happy. Hope this stays
Agreed. My hope was to take a poll of whether or not the update made a difference. I find that many people in this community get excited about the potential of thread closings and enjoy being combative. I'm just trying to create a central thread for people to weigh in on the LTE issue, not clutter our forum with poorly categorized threads.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
After updating I immediately came up on 4g in my house where I have always had 3g, even between 2 towers less than 1 mile away so I would say a great improvement and I have connection manager disabled for reference.
Located in MD between Annapolis and Baltimore
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
Dallas tx, finally able to catch a signal at my job were I was only able to with decks cm10 but it still drops it after only a few min. I'm gona say they havnt fixed it sadly
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app