Is it allowed to request sources before official ICS release? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Samsung released the ICS kernel sources for the euro version N7000 2 days ago, just go here and search for "n7000"
Nothing for our i717 yet. There is an "Inquiry" link on the right of every file, allowing to request sources for a device. So, my question is - is it allowed/legal to request release of the ICS sources, given the fact ICS for our phone still hasn't been officially released?

Doesn't hurt to try. Although if I were them, I'd be asking...who are you to ask?
My guess is that once the official ICS OTA is out from at&t, they'll release the sources to the public.

babymatteo said:
Doesn't hurt to try. Although if I were them, I'd be asking...who are you to ask?
My guess is that once the official ICS OTA is out from at&t, they'll release the sources to the public.
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The beauty of GPL is that there is no criteria/requirements for any credentials. Anyone is allowed to ask for a source code of a software released under GPL, and the developer must provide it, no questions asked.

It's allowed..
Fat chance them actually giving it to you, the gpl does not apply to software that has not been released to the public...
but you're allowed to ask, not like the feds are gonna raid your bedroom from a simple question.
And once it's released, you don't have to ask, it's just posted for all to download.

Word son. lol but asking for source early is probobly even more of a joke to sammy then asking for leak

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Has samsung released 2.2 official opensource yet

Has it released the source code for 2.2 yet ?
If not, could you please direct me to where i should be monitoring.
I think i was looking at the right place because it had open source Tar.s and tgiz for t959D but not t959.
No, they have not:
http://opensource.samsung.com/
It will say Froyo when they do, like the canadian Fascinate does.
Since they released 2.2 in US for the Vibrant, they have to release source as per GPL?
mrxela said:
Since they released 2.2 in US for the Vibrant, they have to release source as per GPL?
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I was thinking the same, but it seems they can stretch it out 6 months before they truly have to release it.
Thanks for the replies guys !!
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[Q] Ice cream sandwich rom?

Would it be possible to create a ice cream sandwich rom for the Viewsonic G tablet?
I dont think they have released source code, let alone a phone with the OS yet...
Quickly, I'll hold them off while you go hide!
yashmack said:
I dont think they have released source code, let alone a phone with the OS yet...
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try again.. Galaxy Nexus will have ics
They said tonight that the sdk will be released today
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Aaaaaaaand the SDK is out.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.html
Thus this is a valid question which I was going to ask myself
Its not a valid question yet. Once the source is released I hope we can see a stable ics room that's better than the hacked together honeycomb we have
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drx69 said:
try again.. Galaxy Nexus will have ics
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I know this but the phone has only been announced, it hasnt been released into the wild yet, no one has one in their hands yet
well, except maybe a few reviewers here and there
pretty sure it wont hit shelves or stores for a few more weeks
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muerteman said:
Its not a valid question yet. Once the source is released I hope we can see a stable ics room that's better than the hacked together honeycomb we have
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Im not too sure if that will happen, from what im reading the devices that will support ICS are going to be gingerbread devices
If there isnt a gingerbread ROM/kernel it probably wont support ICS
at best it will be as stable as the most stable gingerbread ROM... so not too bad
Im wondering if it will work with the honeycomb kernel the devs are creating from scratch
Theoretically the tablet has the specs to run ICS but its a matter of Google making the source code open source. If it was anything like HC I think we're gonna be out of luck.
My understanding is that Google never intended to make Honeycomb open source in the hopes of avoiding people attempting to put HC on their phones. ICS should be open source, and Google has already stated several times from what i have seen that they intend to make the codes public. I don't see why we wouldn't have a decent ICS rom out in the next month or two.
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At the very least we should probably see a CyanogenMod version, since its an officially adopted Tablet. I'm looking forward to it.
I doubt it. We don't have an official honeycomb rom so I don't see ics being supported at all on gtab... I truly believe development for our gtab is officially dead.
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I doubt it. We don't have an official honeycomb rom so I don't see ics being supported at all on gtab... I truly believe development for our gtab is officially dead.
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Well, considering that HC was never officially released as open source, I don't know why you would expect a full-featured ROM when the best that anyone could do was essentially a modified bootleg of an existing tablet's firmware. There a TON of G-Tablets out there thanks to the Woot sales, so I think it would be silly to assume that just because development has hit a lull for the last few months that it is totally dead. Give it a few months, and I bet we will see a good ICS ROM made available for our G-Tablets.
I highly doubt that the g-tablet is dead. I myself and one of my friends imported one of these just to get our hands on it.
It will only be dead if people believe that we don't want firmware for it. There is plenty people out there that are looking forward to newer firmare, we just quietly wait patiently for the master coders to do their excellent work.
TBH, I can't thank everyone here enough for the hours they put in to their hobbies. Greatly appreciated.
Google has officially stated that they WILL be releasing the source to Ice Cream Sandwich, so it's VERY likely that there eventually be multiple ICS ROMs (including Cyanogenmod) for the G Tablet.
It's out
I just read that Google has released the source code....
ICS Code-Open Source
will we be seeing an ICS Rom for our Viewsonic G-tab now that the source code was released??
rmejia25 said:
will we be seeing an ICS Rom for our Viewsonic G-tab now that the source code was released??
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This tablet is on life support. ROM development is a small fraction of what it used to be a year ago. Updates are scarce. Be grateful for the value we got out of it over the past year.
The time to move on is fast approaching... and my eye is on the Asus Transformer Prime.
doug3673 said:
This tablet is on life support. ROM development is a small fraction of what it used to be a year ago. Updates are scarce. Be grateful for the value we got out of it over the past year.
The time to move on is fast approaching... and my eye is on the Asus Transformer Prime.
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Part of that is to blame on no Honeycomb source, why would devs waste time reverse engineering when they could wait for ICS? Someone will make an ICS ROM, the lull has been to blame on their actually being NOTHING to do on this device with no Honeycomb source.
Now if those Nvidia drivers end up being a pain, it might be another story.
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Nospin said:
Part of that is to blame on no Honeycomb source, why would devs waste time reverse engineering when they could wait for ICS? Someone will make an ICS ROM, the lull has been to blame on their actually being NOTHING to do on this device with no Honeycomb source.
Now if those Nvidia drivers end up being a pain, it might be another story.
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You can blame the lack of source code, I think I'll stick with blaming Viewsonic for not pushing at all to get drivers or any type of updates to us on this device. Without Viewsonic or Nvidia providing drivers we're going to be in for a rough ride.

Root sgs2 after art update to ICS

I am considering buying the SGS2 very soon. I am going to root it but here is my question. If I wait to get pushed the ATT update to 4.0 ICS do I have to flash back to stock just to root it? I want to wait for the stock push of 4.0 and just wipe off the bloatware and not have to worry about custom ROMs etc. Thanks for the help.
Currently running captivate with cognition 4.5.3 froyo.
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Re: Root sgs2 after ATT update to ICS
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You should be able to root after the update. But we don't know yet for sure.
Way too early to tell. You aren't going to see an official AT&T ICS OTA update for many months - if the Captivate is any indicator, not for at least a year.
Just wait for a Rom to be made , im sure one will be as soon as the sources are avail... I stopped doing the Ota upgrades when i realized its easier to just change the Rom.... So root... imo
Entropy512 said:
Way too early to tell. You aren't going to see an official AT&T ICS OTA update for many months - if the Captivate is any indicator, not for at least a year.
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I'm hoping ATT/Samsung push it sooner because it's still one of ATT's highest end phones.
Of course, this is just wishful thinking.
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Reading this thread, suddenly triggering me asking this question, I don't know why I haven't asked before: is there any ongoing development for ICS ROM?
I assume most of the custom ROMs surface in here are Gingerbread based OS.
votinh said:
Reading this thread, suddenly triggering me asking this question, I don't know why I haven't asked before: is there any ongoing development for ICS ROM?
I assume most of the custom ROMs surface in here are Gingerbread based OS.
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No source for ics yet so there is no development. Look in general forum there is a sticky talking about it. There is also Cm9 but it's not fully working yet on our device.
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eep2378 said:
No source for ics yet so there is no development. Look in general forum there is a sticky talking about it. There is also Cm9 but it's not fully working yet on our device.
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There is development
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eep2378 said:
No source for ics yet so there is no development. Look in general forum there is a sticky talking about it. There is also Cm9 but it's not fully working yet on our device.
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Google did release ICS source codes about a month ago, I'm sure you know that.
Alright, so only CM dev. team currently working on this then.
Thanks
votinh said:
Google did release ICS source codes about a month ago, I'm sure you know that.
Alright, so only CM dev. team currently working on this then.
Thanks
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That's base platform source for Nexus devices with not a single bit of source for anything specific to the I9100 or I777.
You really need to educate yourself on what source has and has not been released, and what that source means and is used for, before posting crap like this.
Basically, I could spend a few hundred hours trying to port the 2.6.35.x drivers for Samsung-specific items to a vanilla Linux 3.0 kernel - only to have a halfassed buggy release ready after Samsung releases official ICS with kernel source for the I9100, which can be ported to the I777 in a matter of a few hours of work.
The CM dev team is not working on ICS for the I777 either - to get anything even working on the I9100 they had to resort to something they almost NEVER do, which is an initramfs repack of a binary kernel. Getting an I9100 binary kernel to work properly on an I777 is simply not possible - you can repack the initramfs all you want, the audio routing code will be different and so will the touchkey mapping code.
The only ICS development that will occur on the I777 prior to I9100 kernel source getting released (or an I777-specific leak showing up) is some basic reverse engineering efforts (mainly focused in audio routing), since the library swap Hellraiser uses can't be done with ICS (depends on audio blobs extracted from an I777 device.)
Entropy512 said:
That's base platform source for Nexus devices with not a single bit of source for anything specific to the I9100 or I777.
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Did i ever mention about Nexus devices which running ICS, ehhh?
You really need to educate yourself on what source has and has not been released, and what that source means and is used for, before posting crap like this.
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Wowww!!!
Just posted once sentence and being tagged with "crap like this"? LOL
By reading my English, do you understand that I just said Google has released ICS source codes? Did you see I am saying Google has released ICS source codes for I9100 or this specific i777, huh? Did you read and understand or just premature assumption?
Or you are telling me that you never know Google has release ICS source code?
Basically, I could spend a few hundred hours trying to port the 2.6.35.x drivers for Samsung-specific items to a vanilla Linux 3.0 kernel - only to have a halfassed buggy release ready after Samsung releases official ICS with kernel source for the I9100, which can be ported to the I777 in a matter of a few hours of work.
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Are you the one who create Entropy512 DD kernel? If yes, every minute you spent is well appreciated, left alone a few hundred of hours.
If so, yes, you seem to be very smart in Android field but in life, learn to grow up and act nicely, politely to others. Get some love, kiddo.
The CM dev team is not working on ICS for the I777 either - to get anything even working on the I9100 they had to resort to something they almost NEVER do, which is an initramfs repack of a binary kernel. Getting an I9100 binary kernel to work properly on an I777 is simply not possible - you can repack the initramfs all you want, the audio routing code will be different and so will the touchkey mapping code.
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Again, I don't know who is working on what so I asked. One of the poster mentioned about CM, so I just repeat it.
If they currently do it, great.
If they currently do not do it, it's ok.
I am just asking, 'cuz in B&N NOOKcolor forum, a lot of XDA dev. is WORKING on ICS ROM from ICS source code that released a while a go.
I thought XDA dev. in this room will also do the same.
The only ICS development that will occur on the I777 prior to I9100 kernel source getting released (or an I777-specific leak showing up) is some basic reverse engineering efforts (mainly focused in audio routing), since the library swap Hellraiser uses can't be done with ICS (depends on audio blobs extracted from an I777 device.)
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Good too know.
I've learnt something.
Thanks
votinh said:
Did i ever mention about Nexus devices which running ICS, ehhh?
Wowww!!!
Just posted once sentence and being tagged with "crap like this"? LOL
By reading my English, do you understand that I just said Google has released ICS source codes? Did you see I am saying Google has released ICS source codes for I9100 or this specific i777, huh? Did you read and understand or just premature assumption?
Or you are telling me that you never know Google has release ICS source code?
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Another poster said we were waiting for source.
You replied to him saying Google posted source over a month ago. Thus implying that you thought that Nexus platform source would actually be sufficient on its own to get our device running ICS - it isn't, it's nowhere close.
I'm sick and tired of repeated "WHERE'S ICS? GOOGLE POSTED SOURCE OVER A MONTH AGO!" posts.
Entropy512 said:
Another poster said we were waiting for source.
You replied to him saying Google posted source over a month ago. Thus implying that you thought that Nexus platform source would actually be sufficient on its own to get our device running ICS - it isn't, it's nowhere close.
I'm sick and tired of repeated "WHERE'S ICS? GOOGLE POSTED SOURCE OVER A MONTH AGO!" posts.
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"Another poster" I assume you meant "eep2378, one that posted right above my "crappy post"?
Firstly, if eep not getting itchy, why you?
Secondly, I don't know what he meant about ICS for Nexus, and even if he meant that, he didn't spell out so I thought he meant the general ICS source code. In his next sentence, he actually mentioned about CM team working on it, even not fully function, w/o waiting for this specific phone ICS source code, so I thought he meant they, CM team are using the general source code, just like XDA dev. in B&N NOOKcolor room.
Thirdly, and if eep irritated about my post, I apologize him.
Now back to you, let's square and clear up all confuse, hardness.
You're a talented kid, good, keep it up. If you know something, teach us, I'm sure a lot of others will learn from you and quietly appreciate.
Be socialize with people around you, in real life or in cyber.
To the ICS related questions, if you don't want to answer, DO NOT answer, there's no one forces you to do so. There is no point to irritate about it.
votinh said:
"Another poster" I assume you meant "eep2378, one that posted right above my "crappy post"?
Firstly, if eep not getting itchy, why you?
Secondly, I don't know what he meant about ICS for Nexus, and even if he meant that, he didn't spell out so I thought he meant the general ICS source code. In his next sentence, he actually mentioned about CM team working on it, even not fully function, w/o waiting for this specific phone ICS source code, so I thought he meant they, CM team are using the general source code, just like XDA dev. in B&N NOOKcolor room.
Thirdly, and if eep irritated about my post, I apologize him.
Now back to you, let's square and clear up all confuse, hardness.
You're a talented kid, good, keep it up. If you know something, teach us, I'm sure a lot of others will learn from you and quietly appreciate.
Be socialize with people around you, in real life or in cyber.
To the ICS related questions, if you don't want to answer, DO NOT answer, there's no one forces you to do so. There is no point to irritate about it.
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Ok let me try to clear up some confusion:
1) Nexus source code has nothing to do with I9100 or I777
2) I didn't mention anything about ICS for Nexus because(see #1) and this is the I777 forum NOT Nexus(another reason why I didn't mention it)
3)I mentioned CM9 because(RIGHT NOW) its the only thing that even approaches getting ICS on I9100 forget the I777. And Even Codeworkx(OP for CM9 aka Dev) is WAITING for ICS SOURCE to drop FOR THE I9100.
Only then, as Entropy said, are we able to get it working on the I777
4)I'm not "itchy" or irritated in the least and there is no need for an apology. Having said that I am fairly tired of reading posts about ICS source code being dropped/when are we getting ICS?/ Can ICS run on my I777?, etc.
Finally, ICS source code dropped FOR THE GALAXY NEXUS!! What does that mean for us?? SEE #1!!
@Entropy, I responded to you in another thread(in Q&A) Porting Bezke ICS KP8(yeah I know another one lol) regarding comments you made on Captivate and I9000 kernels being similar but I9100 and I777 not sharing the same similarities.
I'm sure you never went back to that thread, but didn't want bother you via pm
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Nick281051 said:
There is development
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For the I777? Where?
I don't want to sound ignorant, but Samsung always releases the kernel source along with the ROM?

Are we ever going to get official CM9?

Is this ever going to happen? CM7 had easily the longest run time on my DINC. Just curious if we're going to get it or not!
It doesnt officially name any devices but they put together a little chart to help figure out if you will get an official cm9 release. Check it out. http://androidspin.com/2012/03/14/will-your-device-get-cm9-the-cyanogenmod-team-has-that-answer-for-you/
Honestly, I don't think it's going to happen. Based on the No answer to Does it currently have an official CM7 Release?, the next question is answered No as well.
Most people I've talked to about this seem to skip that and go to the question Is the manufacturer releasing ICS?
Based on the chart linked above (which is official and I saw it on their Google+), I don't think we have a high chance. I'll most likely be returning mine today unless my wife wants it when the SGS3 comes out.
The first rule about CyanogenMod ETAs...You don't ask for CyanogenMod ETAs.
Nobody asked for an ETA. Asked if we'd be getting an official release, whether it's now or next year.
No reason to troll someone just for asking a question.
There's an ongoing thread for it in the Dev section as to where it stands, probably some good info in there...
The only way it will ever get official support is one of two ways:
1) A current CM developer gets a Rezound and ports it, or
2) One of you guys ports it yourself and becomes an official maintainer of it, keeping the project active by continuing to merge in all the official CM9 changes as they occur.
There are still a lot of technical issues preventing AOSP builds from functioning fully on the Rezound. Once those are sorted out, eventually somebody will build a CM9 port. Whether or not it becomes officially supported by CyanogenMod as an official release is entirely up to the developers who ported it and whether or not they want to work with the CM team to make it official.
As soon as we get ics kernel source its very likely that a dev will attempt to port cm9.
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Nabi device source code

Over the years we have asked Fuhu/Nabi for the source for Nabi2, NabiJR, NabiXD, Dreamtab, etc. A year or more ago they released the source for the Nabi2, NabiXD, and JR. Unfortunately the kernel source was nothing more then a snap shot of the kernel anyone could get but no board specific code, or even a defconfig. I have continued to politely ask over the years and they just released for the Nabi2S, Dreamtab, and BigTab. It still looks quite rough but I am pleased to announce with a little hacking to what they released and I was able to build a booting kernel for the Dreamtab(see attached). I also contacted them back, and asked if they could revisit the code for the Nabi2, JR, and XD. We will see what transpires but it's the best effort they have put forth to date.
https://www.nabitablet.com/support/source-code
aicjofs said:
Over the years we have asked Fuhu/Nabi for the source for Nabi2, NabiJR, NabiXD, Dreamtab, etc. A year or more ago they released the source for the Nabi2, NabiXD, and JR. Unfortunately the kernel source was nothing more then a snap shot of the kernel anyone could get but no board specific code, or even a defconfig. I have continued to politely ask over the years and they just released for the Nabi2S, Dreamtab, and BigTab. It still looks quite rough but I am pleased to announce with a little hacking to what they released and I was able to build a booting kernel for the Dreamtab(see attached). I also contacted them back, and asked if they could revisit the code for the Nabi2, JR, and XD. We will see what transpires but it's the best effort they have put forth to date.
https://www.nabitablet.com/support/source-code
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I would love to see if any progress comes out of this. Did anyone ever manage to get any other ROMs working for this besides the ones that was ported from the Nexus?
I've been away from these devices for over a year.
SMcC2 said:
I would love to see if any progress comes out of this. Did anyone ever manage to get any other ROMs working for this besides the ones that was ported from the Nexus?
I've been away from these devices for over a year.
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I have a working Dreamtab kernel. The other devices source looks much worse. I asked them to try again for Nabi2 but never heard back. Haven't done much else, been messing around with LG Gpad lately.
Wonder if they would do the same kernel snapshot with the SE. The latter should also apply to the Mattel-themed variants, e.g. American Girl, Barbie, Hot Wheels and Fisher-Price considering they run off the same hardware with ROMs customised to account for the edition.

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