[Q] Are they the same?? S5830I and S5830?? - Galaxy Ace S5830i Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all..
So as it's mentioned in the title, i have a Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830I will the Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830 be compatible with my phone?? i can't see a difference but an "I" letter!

I think they are the same in specs and "i" stands for india.

That's an i or L?
If the letter is i (S5830i). This phone has diferent hardware and isn't compatible with S5830. So you can't use ROMs developed to S5830.
If the letter is L (S5830L). This phone has same hardware than S5830. The only difference is the bands (850/1900). The L means Latinamerica.
The S5830 has bands (900/2100). Generaly from Europe.

I doesn't stand for india. It has completely different hardware. You can't use Ace ROMS on I version.

S5830i and s5830 are different s5830 roms can brick s5830i.
Sorry for my bad engllish xD

Gamerz_04 said:
S5830i and s5830 are different s5830 roms can brick s5830i.
Sorry for my bad engllish xD
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^^ What he said.
As I understand it, the "i" version has the following differences (and probably more):
- It's chipset is totally different so using S5830 firmware / roms etc WILL cause problems, probably bricking (or so it's been said many times). The non "i" has the Qualcomm MSM7227 and the "i" model uses the Broadcom BCM21553
- It's cpu is different (Armv6 @ 832mhz) vs 800mhz for the non "i".
- Contrary to common belief, it DOES have a gpu (onboard the cpu die)
- The "i" model runs bluetooth v3, not 2.1 as with the non "i" version
- Judging by the specs available on the web, it has SLIGHTLY more ram (about 5mb)
- It has updated firmware / battery life / cpu usage improvements blah blah blah
I've read many threads where S5830 owners have flashed with S5830i firmware etc and have bricked their phone right off the bat.
They're basically the same phones, but also totally different on the insides.

jobeeey said:
- It's chipset is totally different so using S5830 firmware / roms etc WILL cause problems, probably bricking (or so it's been said many times). The non "i" has the Qualcomm MSM7227 and the "i" model uses the Broadcom BCM21553
- It's cpu is different (Armv6 @ 832mhz) vs 800mhz for the non "i".
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I'm no expert but according to system-on-a-chip.findthebest.com, the Qualcomm MSM7227 was released in 2013, so how can the 5830 have it?

zatarra86 said:
I'm no expert but according to system-on-a-chip.findthebest.com, the Qualcomm MSM7227 was released in 2013, so how can the 5830 have it?
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First thing, this thread is 2 years old.
Second, the original s5830 does have Qualcomm while s5830i has Broadcom.

zatarra86 said:
I'm no expert but according to system-on-a-chip.findthebest.com, the Qualcomm MSM7227 was released in 2013, so how can the 5830 have it?
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No, Qualcomm S1 MSM7227 was available from 2009 and Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830 have it too. See this link,
Qualcomm MSM7227
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[Q] Original Samsung Galaxy SIII

Hi all.
I am going to buy a Samsung Galaxy SIII. But the problem is that there are lot of fake versions around the market.
So my question is, Is there any particular method/secret code to identify original Samsung Galaxy SIII vs Clone/ Fake Samsung Galaxy SIII.
Thanks.
Price is the first giveaway, but suggest you grab a photo of the insides with back cover off so you can compare.
Check imei on phone and box
Check firmware version, kernel etc in settings/about phone.
Check memory capacity in settings/storage
If it's cheap it's either fake/stolen/has problems
Use 3 button combo to boot into recovery and check it is stock 3e recovery
Check download mode and system status etc.......that's all I can think of now, will edit if more comes to mind.
Obviously check all hardware, camera, sound, gyro if you can, etc
With this apk you can be sure, if your SGS III original or not:
Galaxy SIII Identity v1.0.3
or here:
GS III Identity : Real or Fake
Regards
loadking said:
Hi all.
I am going to buy a Samsung Galaxy SIII. But the problem is that there are lot of fake versions around the market.
So my question is, Is there any particular method/secret code to identify original Samsung Galaxy SIII vs Clone/ Fake Samsung Galaxy SIII.
Thanks.
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I would suggest you to wait for s4 or go for any other model which has 2GB RAM....buying S3 at this point of time is not a good idea.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
slaphead20 said:
Price is the first giveaway, but suggest you grab a photo of the insides with back cover off so you can compare.
Check imei on phone and box
Check firmware version, kernel etc in settings/about phone.
Check memory capacity in settings/storage
If it's cheap it's either fake/stolen/has problems
Use 3 button combo to boot into recovery and check it is stock 3e recovery
Check download mode and system status etc.......that's all I can think of now, will edit if more comes to mind.
Obviously check all hardware, camera, sound, gyro if you can, etc
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miro666 said:
With this apk you can be sure, if your SGS III original or not:
Galaxy SIII Identity v1.0.3
or here:
GS III Identity : Real or Fake
Regards
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asdf20 said:
I would suggest you to wait for s4 or go for any other model which has 2GB RAM....buying S3 at this point of time is not a good idea.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks all for the replies.. :good::good::good:
Got the following output from the apk you provided. I don't know maybe I'm just being paranoid but isn't the CPU supposed to be quad core arm v9 or something like that. Saw this one here is a dual core arm v7. I was able to put it in download mode and installed the JB 4.1.2 Stock rom with ease.
Reason for my worry is that this phone is very slow, my Galaxy S2 performed better than this even when I installed the Official Jellybean ROM. PLEASE HELP ME
Model: GT-I9300
Board : smdk4x12
Bootloader : I9300XXDLJ1
Compilation : JZO54K.I9300XXELKC
CPU_ABI : armeabi-v7a
Device : m0
Fingerprint : samsung/m0xx/m0:4.1.2/JZO54K/I9300XXELKC:user/release-keys
Host : SEP-101
ID : JZO54K
Manufacturer : samsung
Model : GT-I9300
Product : m0xx
Firmware : I9300XXELKC
Android version : 4.1.2
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app

Is samsung manipulating information

I bougth Samsung Galaxy SII in November 2012. The specifications on various websites including samsung says that it has ARM Cortex A9 processor. Today I happened to use one device tool to check specifications and it shows ARMv7 (v7I). I then downloaded two more tools to confirm the same processor type(ARMv&(v7I).
Has samsung cheated us?
The tools I used are
CPU/RAM/Device Identifier
Android System Info
Quick System Info
nileshlog said:
I bougth Samsung Galaxy SII in November 2012. The specifications on various websites including samsung says that it has ARM Cortex A9 processor. Today I happened to use one device tool to check specifications and it shows ARMv7 (v7I). I then downloaded two more tools to confirm the same processor type(ARMv&(v7I).
Has samsung cheated us?
The tools I used are
CPU/RAM/Device Identifier
Android System Info
Quick System Info
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you do understand that there are different modifications of the S2 all around the world?
like the international i9100 with A7, and the i9100 4G for Virgin Mobile (for example) with A9...
so don't bother about that...
Thanks for quick reply.Anyway. I came across this thread ruling out my concerns. Moderators can please lock this thread.

[Q] How to know if a ROM is compatible with your device

Hello !
i have only one question :
- how did can we know if a rom is compatible with our Device ( only from comparing references ) ?
[ in case that the device is not widely used, and we can't find a compatible rom on the internet ]
djmpro said:
Hello !
i have only one question :
- how did can we know if a rom is compatible with our Device ( only from comparing references ) ?
[ in case that the device is not widely used, and we can't find a compatible rom on the internet ]
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I think you would have to compare CPU architectures, screen resolutions etc.
immortalneo said:
I think you would have to compare CPU architectures, screen resolutions etc.
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This way i'll compare Device to Device on ( Hardware Level ).
But if i want to know From looking to some source Code or somthing inside the ROM ( Hardware [device] / Software [ROM] level comparison ) ?
That's it, if two devices have, let say, the same CPU but different amount of RAM or screen resolution, then a ROM for one of those devices can be compatible with the other.
RoberGalarga said:
That's it, if two devices have, let say, the same CPU but different amount of RAM or screen resolution, then a ROM for one of those devices can be compatible with the other.
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Oh ! thank you. so ! the thing is to compare Hardware .
P.S. : please take a look at this post My Device Specs .
thank you

[Q] official Cyanogenmod nightlies on GT-I9105p

Years ago I made the mistake of buying the S2 plus unstead of the S2 and I have regretted it since. Just no good support from official or unofficial site.
Now that the CM team has decided to officially support the S2 I would very much like to flash CM11 onto my GT-I9105p, but I am unsure if it will work. My understanding is that the GT-I9105p is identical to the GT-I9100 except for NCF. I do not care for NFC would not mind if I loose NFC capability.
So my question is: Can I flash the latest official CM11 nightly onto my GT-I9105p?
No you can't.Completely different hardware.
TheImpossibleEnemy said:
No you can't.Completely different hardware.
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Really? As far as I can see the hardware is identical except for NFC. Where are you getting your infos from?
I9100 = Exynos chipset
I9105/P = Broadcom chipset
You were saying ? (But please, don't let us stop you bricking your phone)
MistahBungle said:
I9100 = Exynos chipset
I9105/P = Broadcom chipset
You were saying ? (But please, don't let us stop you bricking your phone)
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I am not sure where you get this from, as I DO have an I9100P and I do run CM 11 Nightly (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2634693)
I am not sure about the I9105 but the I9100P I am 100% sure is a Exynos chipset.
Also have a look here for info about SII models, just scroll a bit in the OP and you will see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822447
but again nothing about I9105, best bet is to download Cpuz from play store and run that and that will show you 100% correct info as I do not have an I9105.
unubtanium said:
I am not sure where you get this from, as I DO have an I9100P and I do run CM 11 Nightly (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2634693)
I am not sure about the I9105 but the I9100P I am 100% sure is a Exynos chipset.
Also have a look here for info about SII models, just scroll a bit in the OP and you will see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822447
but again nothing about I9105, best bet is to download Cpuz from play store and run that and that will show you 100% correct info as I do not have an I9105.
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dude,s2 plus has different(broadcom) chipset.Although,if one wants to brick his device,he's free to try i9100 roms lol.
TheImpossibleEnemy said:
dude,s2 plus has different(broadcom) chipset.Although,if one wants to brick his device,he's free to try i9100 roms lol.
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Thats why i said to use cpuz to confirm on a I9105, as i do not know for that model.
But for the I9100P i am 100% sure.
i9100p -s2 with nfc
i9105p - s2 plus with nfc
to check go to settings/about phone
pretty easy i think
It is actually my girlfriends phone now, but I will check it using CPUZ next time I get my hands on her/it.
Also I think I remember (and this is why I asked in the first place) that some people reported successfully running the CM11 rom on their GT-I9105P.
We will see...

[Q] Port KK from I9301I Galaxy S3 Neo

What about porting the KK from " Samsung I9301I Galaxy S3 Neo " ?
1. Its rom is available now
2. The difference between it & i9300 .. is the 1.5GB ram not 2GB .. as I know .. for sure you know more
3. I don't know but may be it has the same hardware
Sorry for my English
Thanks for your attention
Abdullah1994 said:
What about porting the KK from " Samsung I9301I Galaxy S3 Neo " ?
1. Its rom is available now
2. The difference between it & i9300 .. is the 1.5GB ram not 2GB .. as I know .. for sure you know more
3. I don't know but may be it has the same hardware
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your point 3. is the problem. it would need the same cpu, but there is still confusion which cpu it has. On the samsung site itself it is only stated 1.4 ghz quadcore, but that could also be a qualcomm.
but in the german shops it is stated as exynos 4412, what would be perfect. (but they could also have misinterpret the informations about the cpu)
so patience
Darkened_Sky said:
your point 3. is the problem. it would need the same cpu, but there is still confusion which cpu it has. On the samsung site itself it is only stated 1.4 ghz quadcore, but that could also be a qualcomm.
but in the german shops it is stated as exynos 4412, what would be perfect. (but they could also have misinterpret the informations about the cpu)
so patience
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So, if the CPU is exynos 4412 it would be easy ??
I'm so optimistic and hope so
thanks for your reply
No its not gonna happen the developers have already tested that and it doesn't work.
Press thanx if i helped you in anyway...
kunal1540 said:
No its not gonna happen the developers have already tested that and it doesn't work.
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any link for that test?
I've followed the whole archiport thread, and afaik no one really tried it has it could still potentially have a qualcomm/other exynos cpu what would result in bricking the phone by flashing it. and as long there are no detailed technical informations about the neo it will also not happen that someone tests it.
Well I saw the box of the Neo, and it has a 1.4Ghz CPU and not 1.2 like some say...
Edit: on this unboxing video the box is white and it says 1.2Ghz.
I saw a neo that my friend bought, it has a blue box that specifically says 1.4Ghz!
weird...

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