[Q] Can the camera performance be improved with software changes? - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

So I am really loving this phone but unfortunately the camera has disappointed me more than once. After using the iP4s for awhile I realized that I don't like iOS or the iPhone much at all, what I do love is the camera. Now all I want is an Android device with an awesome camera and I thought the EVOLTE would be it. So, before I return the phone and await the SGS3 I want to see if software upgrades can improve the camera performance.
Thanks in advance!

please return it

flex360 said:
please return it
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Agreed.......with this.
Camera kicks ass.....later.

mlin said:
So I am really loving this phone but unfortunately the camera has disappointed me more than once. After using the iP4s for awhile I realized that I don't like iOS or the iPhone much at all, what I do love is the camera. Now all I want is an Android device with an awesome camera and I thought the EVOLTE would be it. So, before I return the phone and await the SGS3 I want to see if software upgrades can improve the camera performance.
Thanks in advance!
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Exactly what type of performance are you looking to get?
As for myself, I've gotten some incredible shots with this camera.

Wow, you guys are loads of help. Its a simple question. I know the camera uses good hardware but the performance still lacks. You guys think what you want but when I'm trying to capture pics of my newborn and my eco produces slightly fuzzy pics with poor color representation while the pics on my wife's iPhone look better then I'm inclined to want better performance. FWIW the EVO outperforms the iPhone in daylight but infamy other settings it comes in 2nd place.
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bernechad said:
Exactly what type of performance are you looking to get?
As for myself, I've gotten some incredible shots with this camera.
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As good as the iP4s. I have a dslr but when out and about I want a camera that is close to as good as my dedicated point and shoot. Maybe my phone is defective, I'll take it in tomorrow to compare to a floor model.
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mlin said:
Wow, you guys are loads of help. Its a simple question. I know the camera uses good hardware but the performance still lacks. You guys think what you want but when I'm trying to capture pics of my newborn and my eco produces slightly fuzzy pics with poor color representation while the pics on my wife's iPhone look better then I'm inclined to want better performance. FWIW the EVO outperforms the iPhone in daylight but infamy other settings it comes in 2nd place.
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What settings are you using on the camera? Auto, hdr, portrait, close up, etc? ISO, white balance?
The only thing I've noticed is slight ghosting with hdr, but that's been a known issue for quite awhile now.
And they probably weren't very helpfully since tapatalk is showing you posting from a nexus s.
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mlin said:
As good as the iP4s. I have a dslr but when out and about I want a camera that is close to as good as my dedicated point and shoot. Maybe my phone is defective, I'll take it in tomorrow to compare to a floor model.
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I've got a canon powershot and my evolte takes very comparable pictures. I haven't tried in low light conditions, but otherwise I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
Quite possibly could be a defect with the camera itself.

bernechad said:
What settings are you using on the camera? Auto, hdr, portrait, close up, etc? ISO, white balance?
The only thing I've noticed is slight ghosting with hdr, but that's been a known issue for quite awhile now.
And they probably weren't very helpfully since tapatalk is showing you posting from a nexus s.
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Yeah, I've tried adjusting pretty much everything. Low light helps some but even then my phones struggles to catch a quality pic when my daughter is moving around. If you haven't yet realized, my newborn is the reason why the camera has become so important.
I'm posting front Nexus because the EVO is deactivated because I was considering returning and doesn't want to take a chance of something happening to it. Also my iP4s has water damage.
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bernechad said:
What settings are you using on the camera? Auto, hdr, portrait, close up, etc? ISO, white balance?
The only thing I've noticed is slight ghosting with hdr, but that's been a known issue for quite awhile now.
And they probably weren't very helpfully since tapatalk is showing you posting from a nexus s.
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I've got a canon powershot and my evolte takes very comparable pictures. I haven't tried in low light conditions, but otherwise I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
Quite possibly could be a defect with the camera itself.
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Thanks for your responses. I'll try taking it in tomorrow before making a decision. It sounds like mine may not be performing as intended.
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mlin said:
Yeah, I've tried adjusting pretty much everything. Low light helps some but even then my phones struggles to catch a quality pic when my daughter is moving around. If you haven't yet realized, my newborn is the reason why the camera has become so important.
I'm posting front Nexus because the EVO is deactivated because I was considering returning and doesn't want to take a chance of something happening to it. Also my iP4s has water damage.
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Check out the picture thread to see what this camera can do. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671858
I'd definitely have your phone checked out.

mlin said:
Wow, you guys are loads of help. Its a simple question. I know the camera uses good hardware but the performance still lacks. You guys think what you want but when I'm trying to capture pics of my newborn and my eco produces slightly fuzzy pics with poor color representation while the pics on my wife's iPhone look better then I'm inclined to want better performance. FWIW the EVO outperforms the iPhone in daylight but infamy other settings it comes in 2nd place.
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When you open up with the camera sucks and rave about a phone that most of us cant stand (especially after what apple pulled with our current phone) and then mention another phone that for the love kittens I have no idea why people like them (samsung phones, sorry I just can't get past the way they feel in the hand) and expect people to not look at your "new thread" and think....TROLL ALERT. Especially sense we already have a thread about the camera picture quality.
Just saying....

Well for what it's worth, my camera experience had been poor too. I think it is defective. I can't take a picture of a flower close up in close up mode... I think that's an issue.
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When you open up with the camera sucks and rave about a phone that most of us cant stand (especially after what apple pulled with our current phone) and then mention another phone that for the love kittens I have no idea why people like them (samsung phones, sorry I just can't get past the way they feel in the hand) and expect people to not look at your "new thread" and think....TROLL ALERT. Especially sense we already have a thread about the camera picture quality.
Just saying....
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you're a clown. I simply said the iPhone has a good camera. I don't care if you don't like the iPhone or Samsung. If you can't handle the facts then maybe the real world isn't for you. Continue to live in your bull **** bubble where only your opinion matters and facts are irrelevant. Dip ****.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Well for what it's worth, my camera experience had been poor too. I think it is defective. I can't take a picture of a flower close up in close up mode... I think that's an issue.
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Have you taken it to have it looked at yet?
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The OP also presented an intriguing question. Since there is some aggressive post capture image processing, would we benefit from an alteration on the software level? You guys never needed to jump on his back. This is constructive criticism and inquiring, not fanboi-ing.
If our devs found a way to edit the imaging chip software, I would assume so, yes. They may be able to tone it down a little bit so things aren't over-sharpened, which I've noticed can be true in some cases. However, if you play around with the camera settings a little more, you may be able to find some optimum values. I dropped my ISO (a setting that affects grain) to 400 instead of auto and reduced saturation by 1 to help with pink skin tones. It looks noticeably better and it already looked really nice from the get go for me. I haven't played with the sharpness yet though.
Tapatalked from my shiny new HTC Evo LTE

To answer the question in the op, yes, software upgrades can increase camera performance.
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I have an iPhones 4s that is about to sell on eBay. I had a galaxy nexus and returned for this phone. The camera, among other things, played a big role in that decision.
The iPhone 4s takes great pictures....that an everyday person can take no problem. But the stock interface decides for you, often giving good pictures, but limiting your ability to adjust the capture.
At first the my evo was not impressing me...because I was using it like the iPhone. Once you realize the focus works differently, you can get comparable pictures. Once you realize how powerful the numerous adjustments are on the evo's camera...you can get outstanding pictures that blow away the iPhone 4s. I've directly compared with the photographery of a fiancee.
The evo allows the user to manipulate the capture...and as thus also allows the user to ruin the capture. The iPhone doesn't, but is more limited. Honestly it is all back to ios vs android.
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Also...I know its a result of the fast capture feature, but I wish you could set it to focus when you push the capture button. This would be nice for when you want one perfect shot and not to take advantage of the fast capture feature.
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...Honestly it is all back to ios vs android.
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Which comes down to: do you want to do it yourself or be told how to do it?
I prefer to make my own choices, so I choose this phone and its exceptional camera.
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bernechad said:
Which comes down to: do you want to do it yourself or be told how to do it?
I prefer to make my own choices, so I choose this phone and its exceptional camera.
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Indeed.
I have been using android since the HTC Hero. I strayed for a while with the iphone 4s...but eventually could not stand it anymore. Honestly...it was this remarkable device that final sold me back. It blows the iphone 4s away in every area.
I am very open to change, and I will use what is best. In my opinion, ICS combined with the hardware on this device is tops. I'm not a fanboy by any means...I still love and perfer the new ipad and my macbook...but that could change with the next generation of devices.
There is one BIG thing I like about apple products. Due to the market hype...there sure do sell for a lot more on ebay than they should!

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Camera better than epic?

So Ive been with a samsung epic on and off since its launch and have gotten very used to a GREAT camera (for a phone). It takes exceptional stills in all light conditions AND probably the best hd video ive seen on a phone. It seems all the droids and htc phones i see videos of on youtube, even brand new ones, that have literally just come out ,still some how dont compare to samsungs cameras on there devices. Ive been patiently waiting for an evo3d because of all of the specs and awesomeness , and my epic is broken and been around the block being fixed too many times anyways so now i am literally waiting on the evo 3d lol, BUT i feel like even on the evo3d , htc just cant compete with samsungs cameras and im going to miss samsung just for that. I dont know how to explain every time i youtube a sample camera video on every other phone it just seems sub par to the epic and or a few few other samsung phones, esepcially when in motion , wich was flawless on the epic, even in the dark.
People always come back with o well if you want quality video and pics then buy a real camera but i came to rely on the phone as a good cary around camera so theres no reason to have to do otherwise when buying a more advanced phone than the last........anybody got any opinions on the evo3ds camera or expectations ?
Can't really compare to the Evo3d yet, though there are some pics on the Evo3d forums, though they don't bode well for the new Evo.
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Can't really compare to the Evo3d yet, though there are some pics on the Evo3d forums, though they don't bode well for the new Evo.
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yeah im not holding my breath for a good low light camera on the e3d. You would think that since one of the main marketing features is its camera. I really hope HTC went with better camera hardware, A bigger CMOS/CCD sensor would greatly help in low light settings. I would also like to see more manual settings, A bulb mode would be nice, or timed exposures. Even if they had to buy hardware from samsung. HTC please give us a good camera for once.
I thought the photos and videos on the wirefly video review looked very nice..granted they werent in low light
I really had no complaints about my Evo after I bought Vignette. Video still sucked, but stills were great. 3d looks better on both fronts... And I am one who is pumped about 3d photos.
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I thought the photos and videos on the wirefly video review looked very nice..granted they werent in low light
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I thought they looked like ****, my evo takes better pictures than what he showed.
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I thought they looked like ****, my evo takes better pictures than what he showed.
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I guess we will agree to disagree..he took a fee up close macro shots that I know my evo would have a hard time handling..and the video outside looked great..I dunno what you expect..and I live my evo but tje video is pretty ****ty most times
I'd say hold out for the Samsun Within (will have an even better camera than the epic). It's rumored to be coming out July 24th.
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Ehh..good photos with touch **** and samsungs stellar history of support..they are hoping cyanogen can keep the phone updated..I think the camera will be improved and the original evo camera isn't stellar but isn't terrible..once root is acquired and the Roms start flowing the 3d will be the shyt..and tje gs2 ain't coming for months..def .not worth the wait for me
I think the epic has a better 1
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I guess we will agree to disagree..he took a fee up close macro shots that I know my evo would have a hard time handling..and the video outside looked great..I dunno what you expect..and I live my evo but tje video is pretty ****ty most times
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you thought the video looked good?
the thunderbolt has a better camera than the 3d.
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you thought the video looked good?
the thunderbolt has a better camera than the 3d.
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So did alot of people, including myself
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So did alot of people, including myself
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took that with my hero i think that has a better camera than the 3d.
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you thought the video looked good?
the thunderbolt has a better camera than the 3d.
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True. From my Tbolt. I don't have any landscape pics on it so I snapped this.
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took that with my hero i think that has a better camera than the 3d.
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I'm.sorry your getting a little far fetched now..I've had an hero..and the evo 4g was a great Improvement in everything including the camera..there is simply no way that the HTC hero will be superior to the 3d ...wait till you get the phone and take your own pictures ..
The EVO uses the 8mp version of the Omnivision sensor used in the iPhone 4. Only reason iPhone's is better low light is because there are less pixels so the pixels left are bigger.
The Epic has an extra processor for the camera, plus the Evo's main issue with video was the bitrate it records at.
I thought the pics and the video looked kinda meh in that wirefly review, but I think my Vibrant's camera capabilities are pretty amazing for a 5mp phonecam ... oh well, can't wait to get rid of the rest of samsuck's phone
I thought the camera looked good, He may have not adjusted the setting on the camera for different lighting which would make it appear worse. I noticed how important these setting are on my fuze which takes horrible pictures (compared to the newer phones but that's to be expected).
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I thought the camera looked good, He may have not adjusted the setting on the camera for different lighting which would make it appear worse. I noticed how important these setting are on my fuze which takes horrible pictures (compared to the newer phones but that's to be expected).
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If HTC would improve on a couple things..mainly the cameras in their phones they would be the best in the business by far in my opinion..I would hope they would realize this and not release tje 3d with a mediocre lens
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took that with my hero i think that has a better camera than the 3d.
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Also I don't mean to offend but that looks horrible. My Fuze will take a way better picture than that. The glare is just awful. I'm not trying to get into the picture wars, but I have faith in the DEVs here to make me a happy camper. Maybe android people are a lot more impatient and demanding then older members. There's no such thing as the PHONE OF PHONES (As much as we would like), we have to give and take as well plus there a lot of personal preference involved as well.

Mixed Bag

The Evo 3D is a worthy upgrade to the 4G....speedwise predominantly. No doubt this thing moves faster than any modded 4G Rom I ever used on my 4G.
My issue with the 4G was the poor indoor camera pics.
The perplexing thing to me is that HTC...knowing that it had a deficient camera on the 4G , made no improvements in the 3D camera.....in a device named after it's camera!
After 3 days of playing with various settings I can say that unfortunately the indoor pics just equal the 4G. (I'm being...kind. Many say they're worse).
HTC is dead last (compared to the major smartphone manufacturers: Sony, Apple, Microsoft and Samsung) in camera quality.
I'd communicated with HTC about this last fall. They responded positively. But unfortunately nothing materialized.
I use this feature a lot and had hopes.
Ah well...its still fun using this otherwise...as I will for at least 30 days.
(Fanboys: I know: quit trolling; get a real camera; good riddance lol; whatever).
Its my take on the 3D...based on my expectations. Most don't care about camera functionality as I do...so be it.
Yeah I'm holding off on getting the E3D and I'll probably wait for a better device. It looks like they also didn't fix build quality issues (crooked screen, jiggly camera button, no protection for the back camera).
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Yeah I'm holding off on getting the E3D and I'll probably wait for a better device. It looks like they also didn't fix build quality issues (crooked screen, jiggly camera button, no protection for the back camera).
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Ehh it really isn't that bad. My screen is straight, my camera button is fine and idk about the back camera since I just haven't looked. I know all other phones from HTC have had a plastic thing over them. And if they improve the 3vo in the future ill just drop my phone and get a new one for $100
Also someone said something about an app that took better quality pics then the pre-installed one.
I don't know if I recommend getting another device unless camera quality is a premium priority...or speaker volume maybe.
3D is way cool...and the device flies...I mean faster than girlfriends TBolt, Sensation...whatever.
You need to try a application called vignette... Pics look so much better..... Always made my 4th pics much better.
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Yeah...I've tried them all. They do decent patch jobs.
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You need to try a application called vignette... Pics look so much better..... Always made my 4th pics much better.
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Not sure about new Evo (vs S3 & iPhone 5)

I was looking to upgrade my OG Evo to the new LTE, but after playing around with it at the Sprint store, I'm not so sure.
Maybe people can give me feedback:
1. I really liked the dedicated camera hardware button; but I was hoping this would be a quick way to take a photo from sleep mode. Seemed to me it didn't operate until you turn on phone, unlock screen, etc. So it actually takes longer than the iPhone. Is there any way to make it shoot straight from sleep?
2. I was excited by the 'take stills while shooting video' thing -- but all 3 phones do this.
3. Switching from front to rear camera is a major pain, takes 3 steps. Samsung & iPhone it's instant.
4. Does anyone know of a place to see real-world photos from this phone side by side with iPhone? I know the lens is f2 (vs 2.4), but I have a feeling the optics are better on the iPhone.
5. Does it have a panorama mode? I thought that was already built in to ICS. I couldn't find it. The iPhone panorama is excellent.
Wow, that's a lot of camera-related questions!
6. What's with the "..." at the bottom of the screen in many places? Is that because there's no menu button? It looks odd and out of place.
7. How difficult is to root the Evo; and how well does it run with AOSP Jelly Bean? Are all hardware features available?
Thanks for any input! I'm having a really hard time with this decision ... Evo LTE vs iPhone 5 vs Galaxy S3.
(The iPhone 'feels' like the best device BY FAR (in terms of build quality, design, screen & speed), but I HATE the narrow screen and the absence of a Swype, which I can't imagine living without.)
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ok, you had a lot of questions and most related to camera. so i will try to get you up to speed. before i start i'm in the same boat and need to choose between the iphone 5 (currently have) the galaxy S3 (just traded away from my S2), and the HTC evo 4g lte ( always been an htc fan boy ).
on #1, you're right the camera button does require the phone to be unlocked before use (for now).
#2, yes they all do some sort of pic in video mode. however the aperture on the HTC is the best of the three and the pics taken while doing vids will be better on the HTC...this should help cover #4 as well. as far as finding pics to match i could load a few but most aren't of the same theme.
#3, the switching between rear and front camera...lets be serious. how often do you need instant switching back and forth? but to explain, the camera of the htc is extremely powerful and so just as if you use a high end camera changin a few features may seem slow. trade off comrade, trade off...would you rather a slow focus and quick switch or quick focus and slow switch? also it really isn't that slow. as compared to the S3 it's on par, the iphone is faster but the front facing camera is a joke compared to those of the android counterparts. they all have a panoramic shot mode so dont fret on that, #5 dismissed.
While on the topic of cameras i will say the iphone 5 has an awesome camera compared to the iphone 4/4s but the focus and detail is failing when placed beside the S3 and evo LTE.
now to the fun stuff and why i got the iphone...
first #6, yes the "..." is the menu. no haptic button for the htc. no idea on the rooting yet, i like to test stock before i go tamperin...just seems fair to have a really good device before i make it the perfect one.^_^. . the iphone 5 is a spectacular device specially seeing any device i get right now (i'm a sprint user, *sigh* hopefully loyalty has it's advantages). IOS is a very stable OS and gives a ease of use unchallenged by many. if you've ever had an iphone more so the last three setting up your new iphone should be as easy as syncing to itunes or loading from cloud to have damned near everything loaded for you. . . .BUT it's old, and lame, and too stupid friendly. i make no jabs @ apple, i have both mac and PC and as i said got the iphone 5 and have had every other dating back to the original iphone (SN: anyone else notice how much the latest iphone looks more like the first more so than any other...victim of fashion i guess).
Samsung, oh samasung....i had the S2 and i have to admit, it became one of my favs. i didn't even want the damned thing, but my gurl made me do the "matching" thing. don't laugh, there are far worse options. -,-... back to focus, the S2 was large, beautiful, responsive and gave a so-so battery performance. the new version has all that and then some. it is loaded, wait let me clarify.....LOADED with goodies and features. all eye catching, all empowering, all really cool. and the way they have been presented on tv and web is about to make the next thing i say a shocker to some.... the HTC can do these things to. HTC started the trend of phone gestures on smart phones...back before android on this little known part of history called windows mobile 6. and they've kept it going all along. never really got the front face it deserved but it's had it and the evo is no different. no before i get blasted there are a few features unique to samsung and again why i emphasized on how many there are.
last but definately not least is HTC. they've been my fav for a loooo...insert coffee break here...oong time, since since my 8125 (see cingular). the htc is a thign of beauty in modest form. the power, the look, the camer, the kickstand....is just an awesome picture of what a phone should be. it works awesome as it's predecessor did, without the hellaciously horrendous battery life. it's that nerdy chic in class all grown up. but there inlies her problem...her focus has shifted. she's just as smart as before, smarter even. but she's gotten so shallow that like your "..." problem in #6 things that used to make her intelligence known are now hidden behind a pretty smile.
i've ranted long enough and hopefully helped fix some of your questions. i think i just solved mine. getting the htc tomorrow. glad i could help and thanks for yours.
Wow, thanks, that's a lot of useful info!
I beg to differ, however; I find I need to use the cam-switch feature quickly all the time. E.g., you take a picture of something cool, then you want to take a picture of yourself & your wife being at the something cool ...
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Wow, thanks, that's a lot of useful info!
I beg to differ, however; I find I need to use the cam-switch feature quickly all the time. E.g., you take a picture of something cool, then you want to take a picture of yourself & your wife being at the something cool ...
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I'm not a big fan of taking pictures with the front camera. I always considered it as something important for video chatting, not so much taking pictures I actually intend on keeping. It's only 1.3 megapixels as opposed to the 8 on the back.
As for the phone, I like it overall. There are some kinks, but you would be foolish to expect there not to be any a few months after the device launches.
I'm having the contact ringtone not working - haven't gotten an update to fix it that should've been out for a week already. Also have had problems with swype force closing, and have had one glorious occasion where I was stuck in a boot loop. And I'm not even rooted! Ended up factory resetting and losing all my apps.
I really WANT to like it. The battery is awesome, the camera is nice. No ****ing LTE yet, and I'm in Los Angeles - one of the biggest markets in the US. No Jellybean yet either.
I'll wait it out though. I had the old Evo 4G and it was a great year and a half.
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5. Does it have a panorama mode?
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Yes. It's excellent. Up to 5 panes IIRC. I took some pics at the zoo last weekend. They were too big to upload to image shack. Turned out great but you'll have to take my word for it.
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7. How difficult is to root the Evo; and how well does it run with AOSP Jelly Bean? Are all hardware features available??
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Very easy. I did it with the one click method (it's noob proof). Rooted in about 15 minutes. I'm running the Mean Rom 4.5.1. It's super fast and not buggy. It's the best rom out there IMO. Lots of camera mods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727167
Watch the video review in the second link. It shows all the bells & whistles. The new update has a 1.7 overclock kernel.
Read my post about my HTC Evo 4G on a thread I posted a few days ago here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32045074
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Here is a little review of this phone: I wrote this on another thread.
Found a Great vs Review! Keep in mind this was in May! Plus I don't care much for the GS3. This is strictly for The Two Devices Listed Down Below. 
This sumed it up for me! Good thing it shows the differences between camera. I see that the Nexus camera is more of a square format then a wide format. So that right there is a no go on my end. But yea, they are both Superior devices. Wish I can own both...But oh well....
Check out this link for the full review!
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus_id3039/page/2
Posted: 21 May 2012, 07:05 , by Brian K.
Processor and Memory:
Samsung uses a 1.2GHz dual core TI OMAP4460 processor, while EVO 4G LTE is powered by a dual core Qualcomm S4. Both run on 1GB of RAM. The Samsung opts for 32GB of internal storage, whereas HTC only offers 16GB built-in but has expandable memory for another possible 64GB. HTC also partnered with Dropbox to give users activating an EVO 4G LTE 25GB of free cloud storage. Both run the OS quickly and fluidly, and in everyday use it is likely that you wouldn’t notice much of a difference. There is something to be said for the heavy graphical load of Sense 4.0 and how well the EVO 4G LTE handles it.
When it comes to benchmarks, however, the EVO 4G LTE mops the floor with the Nexus. Besting our previous scores, the EVO 4G LTE was able to achieve just shy of 5500 on Quadrant Standard, with the Galaxy Nexus topping out just over 2000 at its best. Nenamark 2 gave similar results, with the EVO 4G LTE topping out at 58.8fps and the Galaxy Nexus less than half that 24.9fps. On AnTuTu the EVO 4G LTE maxed out a few points shy of 7000, with the Galaxy Nexus far behind at about 5100 (with the rest of its scores down in the mid 4000s.) It is pretty clear that Qualcomm’s latest and greatest is up the challenge of some heavy computing.
Camera:
A reworked camera app was one of the selling points of Android 4.0, and we have to say we’re impressed with the instant capture feature that the Galaxy Nexus offers. The interface is better, but still clunky and worlds behind the HTC interface found on the EVO 4G LTE. The technology behind the Nexus’ camera is also lagging behind; Samsung opted for a 5 megapixel f2.8 camera while HTC went with an 8 megapixel f2.0 with backside illumination. Both are capable of producing some great shots, and at times the Galaxy Nexus bested the EVO 4G LTE, but the majority of the time the HTC outperformed the Samsung.
Colors were more natural with the EVO 4G LTE, details were crisper and tricky lighting conditions were handled much better. The Galaxy Nexus struggled with color saturation, backlight situations and light/dark contrast (such as shooting shadows.) The EVO 4G LTE bested the Galaxy Nexus especially indoors, where the latter had a tendency to lose details quickly, as evidenced by the pantry shot.
Conclusion:
These are undoubtedly the two best Android devices Sprint has to offer, and really are two of the best smartphones available today. Some of this is going to come down to preferences, for example Sense versus stock or AMOLED versus S-LCD. All things considered the HTC EVO 4G LTE was the better performer of the pair in our opinion. It offers a superior display, top notch performance, excellent call quality and has an inspired design. The Galaxy Nexus is not without merit, and we would certainly carry one as our everyday phone if one were handed to us, but given the choice the HTC edges out the Nexus in too many categories to call it even.
When it comes to cameras, I know wassup! This Evo 4G LTE is a beast comparing it to any iPhone! Android in general had panorama way back even before the iPhone had it. And to tell you the truth its on top of its game. Don't expect to take excellent shots with either or. Cause what you see on the commercials is not what you get in real life. It takes dedication & a Non-Moving subject for it to come out perfect. Like "landscape"
But yea, Im a big camera person. And for I to choose this camera over any other phone camera means a lot in my line of Hobby!
The only thing is, if you are planning to upload to facebook. There is something with facebook that it does not let it load its full resolution. The only way for it to upload full resolution of a photo is if you pass it over to your computer and upload it that way. Or I think uploading it through the App "google chrome" should do the trick. Facebook app sucks on Android! I have to admit that on Apple, facebook app its the best!
I know because I owned a iPhone 4 and my girl owns a iPhone 4S!
But yea, if you are not a fan of a little screen. The iPhone is not going to make justice.
Watching YouTube videos, movies, tv shows, playing a game on the Evo 4G LTE screen has become one of my best experience then doing so on a iPhone screen.
Keep that in mind!
One last thing about the camera between the Evo 4G LTE & any iPhone!
This camera shoots widescreen shots and keeps a aperture of 2.2 or I think 2.0 which is Heavenly good. The bigger the aperture the better the lens! It gives great depth of field, it also as on-board effects that I often play with. My favorite is "over exposed" which is a Black & white effect.
Here are some examples!
I posted nights shots for to see how great it captures light and night scenes! It may not look superb due to uploading with xda but on the phone it looks great!
Camera is about the same quality on all three phones.
You can add camera to lockscreen.
I'd pick the S3 (currently what I use, despite being a HTC fanboy).
Don't chain yourself to Apple.
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evo 4g lte beats every phone in speed.. i have tested it using every benchmark and quadrant app thats out and the evo wins in all of them :good:
Thanks for all the feedback & input!
I guess my biggest issue is Sense; IMHO, it looks old, ugly, and annoying. I've hated Sense for 2 years, and it keeps getting worse.
That weird "stretch" overscroll effect is just awful.
Couple more questions ...
If I install stock (or CM) ICS or JB, what would I be losing out? Would I still have the dual still/video buttons in camera? Continuous shooting?
Is there a stable MIUI ROM for the Evo LTE? (MIUI is amazing on my OG)
Does anyone know if there's any Swype-like keyboard options for the iPhone?
How often do you get that stupid "menu" button taking up 10% of your screen? That really blows my mind!
Good article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/08/30/hands-on-how-cyanogenmod-10-fixed-my-evo-4g-lte/
Does anyone know about this from the comments?
Rohan Mathur • a month ago
Just an FYI Liam, we are moving the entire HTC MSM8960 family from proprietary library files to an Open Source HAL for Camera. Guess what that means? Near perfect camera
My device (the One XL), the HTC One S, and your device, the Evo 4G LTE are all making the switch. The new camera libraries are working very, very well.
Should be merged either tonight or tomorrow. Big props to dzo from XDA for his flatout amazing work.
Track the commit here: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/...
And here is the commit for your device for building the opensourced Camera HAL: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/...
EDIT: Commit was merged last night, should be included in nightlies from now on.
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Sounds like someone from the CM dev team ... has anyone tried CM10?
It looks AWESOME .... does it now have all the camera functions?
(And it fixes the menu button issue.)
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Thanks for all the feedback & input!
I guess my biggest issue is Sense; IMHO, it looks old, ugly, and annoying. I've hated Sense for 2 years, and it keeps getting worse.
That weird "stretch" overscroll effect is just awful.
Couple more questions ...
If I install stock (or CM) ICS or JB, what would I be losing out? Would I still have the dual still/video buttons in camera? Continuous shooting?
Is there a stable MIUI ROM for the Evo LTE? (MIUI is amazing on my OG)
Does anyone know if there's any Swype-like keyboard options for the iPhone?
How often do you get that stupid "menu" button taking up 10% of your screen? That really blows my mind!
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HTC already released an update to remove the menu bar and make the mulitasking button a menu button.
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HTC already released an update to remove the menu bar and make the mulitasking button a menu button.
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True but, on some devices that option is not working. I know cause I'm one of them. Do you know how I.may solve this problem? Im able to set it up but when I press or hold the multi button it does not go to menu.
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True but, on some devices that option is not working. I know cause I'm one of them. Do you know how I.may solve this problem? Im able to set it up but when I press or hold the multi button it does not go to menu.
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I doubt that. Should be working flawlessly if you are running sense 4.1 or an aosp ROM. Reboot your phone
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I doubt that. Should be working flawlessly if you are running sense 4.1 or an aosp ROM. Reboot your phone
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Don't doubt it cause its happening to me. I'm stock to the bone! And yes I am on 4.1 sense.
The only thing I could think being that you are stock is to try a factory reset.
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I'll try that.. but I'm not really in the need for a menu buttons. I guess I'll wait until.. One, I root my Evo or Two: HTC, comes out with JB.
Not really related but I took this awesome shot of the sunrise the other day.

To the serious photographers. ?.

I am officially a Samsung fanboy, having learned the ropes on my Motorolas, and struggle through elevation with my HTCs, I have hit my stride here with Samsung. I wanted to pose some questions on the Galaxy NX.
How does it look as a device to a fellow Samsung user(s), who also has expirence with cameras and a general knowledge of camera hardware?
At what price point does it become absurd for a serious photographer to consider this device?
Would you reccomend this as a device to a person, not unlike myself, who is thinking of purchasing a camera for the first time because of the attractive device that is the Galaxy NX?
Where does the NX fall short when compared to, in your judgement, other comparable cameras on the market?
Is the Android OS, being originally intended for cameras, as attractive as it seems to be on this device, or am I puttting too much stock in my favorite mobile OS?
Concerns about your typical device like battery life and miscellaneous hardware are important to the point where it will impact the camera function, but not really something I am trying to discuss. I am really looking a conversation on the functionality of the NX as a camera for a 1st time buyer.
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There's a note 10 phone?! Wow where? :banghead:
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harajyuks said:
I am officially a Samsung fanboy, having learned the ropes on my Motorolas, and struggle through elevation with my HTCs, I have hit my stride here with Samsung. I wanted to pose some questions on the Galaxy NX.
How does it look as a device to a fellow Samsung user(s), who also has expirence with cameras and a general knowledge of camera hardware?
At what price point does it become absurd for a serious photographer to consider this device?
Would you reccomend this as a device to a person, not unlike myself, who is thinking of purchasing a camera for the first time because of the attractive device that is the Galaxy NX?
Where does the NX fall short when compared to, in your judgement, other comparable cameras on the market?
Is the Android OS, being originally intended for cameras, as attractive as it seems to be on this device, or am I puttting too much stock in my favorite mobile OS?
Concerns about your typical device like battery life and miscellaneous hardware are important to the point where it will impact the camera function, but not really something I am trying to discuss. I am really looking a conversation on the functionality of the NX as a camera for a 1st time buyer.
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This camera poses quite a few nice options, for one you'll be able to edit everything on the camera and you'll have free range to all the camera apps like FV-5, so you'll always be able to do whatever you want. You can edit your photos on the camera with something like the Photo Mate app that includes a fully fledged Raw converter that offers similar levels of control to what you're used to from Adobe ACR or other desktop Raw converters ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50c2dhbWVzLnBpY3R1cmVpbmZvIl0.).
The camera has pretty damned good specs and seems like it would be a very very nice camera, however if you are wanting a damned good camera that will introduce you to the world of amazing photography you should go with something else. There is too much unknown about this camera, the price is rumored to be around €1000 or $1300 but no one knows for sure at the current moment, it has outstanding potential but at this point these cameras are more toys, to me at least, than a real camera. Before you blow an insane amount of money, and yes I absolutely love what Samsung is doing with these cameras because it opens up so many more possibilities, you should really get a regular DSLR and use it for a while until Samsung gets all the bugs ironed out of these cameras. I won't even consider buying one until next year at the very earliest because I think they have a long way to go before they're as fully functional as most other DSLR cameras. I have been thinking about buying a original Galaxy camera and just playing around with it but honestly it is still too rich for my blood.
If you are wanting to get a good DSLR that has amazing functionality, takes amazing pictures, has a whole bus load of additional lenses and features, and much more I would recommend that you look into something a bit less expensive.
I have personally been using the Olympus E-620 since it was released and still have no want to upgrade to a newer DSLR just because this one has everything I want and need and then some. It's an excellent camera at an insane price because it was released in '09. That is what you need though if you've never dealt with these cameras before, something for a good price that is still competitive with the newer DSLRs that are being released. The price on Amazon right now is only $349 for a used one with the 14-42 mm lens and $450 for a used one with the 14-42 mm and 40-150 mm lenses. You can most likely find them on eBay for cheaper as well.
Here is a fairly decent link about the Galaxy NX:
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/Samsung-Galaxy-NX
One about the Olympus E-620:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse620
If you're dead set on getting a Android camera I would at least wait until the NX had been out for 3 months so you would have some idea of what it is like so you can make damned sure that you won't be blowing that money up a wild hogs ass.
Sorry if my post is a little jumbled, I'm half asleep.
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There's a note 10 phone?! Wow where? :banghead:
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This camera poses quite a few nice options, for one you'll be able to edit everything on the camera and you'll have free range to all the camera apps like FV-5, so you'll always be able to do whatever you want. You can edit your photos on the camera with something like the Photo Mate app that includes a fully fledged Raw converter that offers similar levels of control to what you're used to from Adobe ACR or other desktop Raw converters ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50c2dhbWVzLnBpY3R1cmVpbmZvIl0.).
The camera has pretty damned good specs and seems like it would be a very very nice camera, however if you are wanting a damned good camera that will introduce you to the world of amazing photography you should go with something else. There is too much unknown about this camera, the price is rumored to be around €1000 or $1300 but no one knows for sure at the current moment, it has outstanding potential but at this point these cameras are more toys, to me at least, than a real camera. Before you blow an insane amount of money, and yes I absolutely love what Samsung is doing with these cameras because it opens up so many more possibilities, you should really get a regular DSLR and use it for a while until Samsung gets all the bugs ironed out of these cameras. I won't even consider buying one until next year at the very earliest because I think they have a long way to go before they're as fully functional as most other DSLR cameras. I have been thinking about buying a original Galaxy camera and just playing around with it but honestly it is still too rich for my blood.
If you are wanting to get a good DSLR that has amazing functionality, takes amazing pictures, has a whole bus load of additional lenses and features, and much more I would recommend that you look into something a bit less expensive.
I have personally been using the Olympus E-620 since it was released and still have no want to upgrade to a newer DSLR just because this one has everything I want and need and then some. It's an excellent camera at an insane price because it was released in '09. That is what you need though if you've never dealt with these cameras before, something for a good price that is still competitive with the newer DSLRs that are being released. The price on Amazon right now is only $349 for a used one with the 14-42 mm lens and $450 for a used one with the 14-42 mm and 40-150 mm lenses. You can most likely find them on eBay for cheaper as well.
Here is a fairly decent link about the Galaxy NX:
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/Samsung-Galaxy-NX
One about the Olympus E-620:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse620
If you're dead set on getting a Android camera I would at least wait until the NX had been out for 3 months so you would have some idea of what it is like so you can make damned sure that you won't be blowing that money up a wild hogs ass.
Sorry if my post is a little jumbled, I'm half asleep.
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That's a great gem of information you dropped on me, thanks. Like I said I am not familiar with DSLR or Mirror less cameras at all, so all contribution is appreciated. I have been spending a lot of time watching YouTube videos on where to start as a fledging photographer, and the idea of starting with a cheaper DSLR was the idea a lot of you tubers were recommending.
Also, there was an overwhelming number of people who had the idea to get either a Cannon or Nikon due to the longevity of the 2 platforms, and the availability of accessories. I'm glad to hear of other options.
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Get a canon 40d for roughly 300-350 used and and a nifty 50 for 100 dollars to start. Will take more amazing pictures than any camera in the same price range
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Get a canon 40d for roughly 300-350 used and and a nifty 50 for 100 dollars to start. Will take more amazing pictures than any camera in the same price range
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Or if you have more money you can get a 5d which will run you around 500-600 for the body, and you dont really need more than 8megapixels unless you plan on printing pictures that are bigger than a 10x14 or want to crap the out of pictures but even than a lower megapixel with a full frame sensor is going to give a better picture than a 15mp with a APS-C
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Get a canon 40d for roughly 300-350 used and and a nifty 50 for 100 dollars to start. Will take more amazing pictures than any camera in the same price range
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Or if you have more money you can get a 5d which will run you around 500-600 for the body, and you dont really need more than 8megapixels unless you plan on printing pictures that are bigger than a 10x14 or want to crap the out of pictures but even than a lower megapixel with a full frame sensor is going to give a better picture than a 15mp with a APS-C
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The Olympus E-620 is most definitely higher than the Canon 40D but the Canon seemed kind of dinky dink to me compared to other Canons I've owned in the past. I was really unimpressed with they last few releases, this comes from someone that used nothing but Canon his entire life. It seems to me that Olympus and Fuji were the ones on top of their game these past few years to me, that is changing now though and it looks like Canon is taking their spot back at top. The biggest part to me is the OP is a beginner and should really get something cheaper and that had lenses and the other accessories, he could have the Olympus with a lens for the same price as the body of the 40D and get 2 lenses for the price of the 5D.
That said I am a bit biased on my camera and its functionality, however i used to love Canon and it wasn't until a particularly bad experience with one of their top of the line DSLRs that I went looking for a new brand. It does look like they have released quite a few nice new DSLRs and hopefully when I a, in the market for a new one they will be king again.
OP, Here is a review for the Canon 40D:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos40d
OP, you have a lot of research to do, you need to figure out what it is you are looking for in a camera and what features are most important to you before you jump in and buy one. You then need to make a decision on how much you're willing to spend and narrow it down to 3-5 cameras that have the features you want out of a camera and then narrow it down to the one you want. Keep in mind that most DSLRs only come with the camera body, they don't have a lens with them unless it specifically says it does,
LancerV is completely right about the 8 megapixel part, it honestly doesn't matter for most uses unless you'll be blowing it up to poster board size. That being said, most DSLRs have between a 10-12 megapixel camera on them. Really the thing that will affect your pictures and how they look is the sensor and not how many megapixels a camera has. That's why the HTC phone with a 4 megapixel, I believe it was 4, camera could take better pictures than any of its competitors, it has an outstanding sensor array on it that beat anything that had ever been put in a phone before and I haven't seen a better sensor array in any of the newer phones. I don't buy a phone for the camera though, that's why I have my DSLR.
Also keep in mind you are getting a cheaper DSLR to begin with until you get used to it and figure out which features you want/need and what is best for your situation.
Some good brands are Olympus, Fuji, Canon, Nikon, and Sony in no particular order.
Yeah pretty much Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Olympus you are arguing over minute points. The key too me is the lenses which is going to cost you in the long haul 3-100x the amount the body ever cost you. My 50mm 1.2L cost 3x as much as the body of my camera
appreciate the starter info guys. that dpreviews website is a great resource for me, thanks for putting me onto a good starting point. I am looking for a camera that does good with motion and sports, as well as something I can use around family events for portraits and people shots... and the occasional landscape shot for the old desktop. I have to continue to learn, but I am not opposed to spending more for a product that I can grow into and maintain a sense of longevity with. I am enjoying the hunting right now, I feel like a kid in a candy store, albeit an exclusive German Chocolatier who only deals with the freshest Colombian cocoa beans.
This should say "hey I made a nice camera app..."
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This should say "hey I made a nice camera app..."
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As the post title? Lol
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This should say "hey I made a nice camera app..."
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Why would you say that? We are talking about cameras, not apps.
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Why would you say that? We are talking about cameras, not apps.
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Well...if you want a nice camera...buy a camera...because phones you cannot add lens...filter...zoom...it is as basic as take a picture and use an app...besides it reads like a commercial for an app...even the camera differences usually boil down to software
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Well...if you want a nice camera...buy a camera...because phones you cannot add lens...filter...zoom...it is as basic as take a picture and use an app...besides it reads like a commercial for an app...even the camera differences usually boil down to software
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And that is exactly what we are talking about if you read the OP.
The Galaxy NX is a DSLR running android instead of a proprietary camera OS. Did you read the OP and responses?
And are way more difference between cameras than *just software*, even between cell phones there is usually a difference between the cameras. What you are thinking of are the features in the app we use on Samsung stock ROMs. Nonetheless we are talking about actual cameras and have been the entire time, he asked about the NX in the OP, so your initial post makes no utter sense.
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And that is exactly what we are talking about if you read the OP.
The Galaxy NX is a DSLR running android instead of a proprietary camera OS. Did you read the OP and responses?
And are way more difference between cameras than *just software*, even between cell phones there is usually a difference between the cameras. What you are thinking of are the features in the app we use on Samsung stock ROMs. Nonetheless we are talking about actual cameras and have been the entire time, he asked about the NX in the OP, so your initial post makes no utter sense.
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I read it like I was in the note2 general forum...
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No its a full DSLR with an APS-C sensor size and look through viewfinder. It actually has pretty impressive specs shooting 20.8fps is pretty decent for a camera that size.
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No its a full DSLR with an APS-C sensor size and look through viewfinder. It actually has pretty impressive specs shooting 20.8fps is pretty decent for a camera that size.
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Granted, it still has quite a way to come before I would purchase it as my daily use DSLR. Right now I see Samsung as mainly experimenting with the camera market, with an Android DSLR, trying to figure out the nest way to implement it and have full use of the features.
It's still really really a really nice camera and has amazing potential, once they get the bugs worked out and figure out the best way to tie in the camera into android so you get full use of everything I would definitely buy it.
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Yeah my only issue is going to be battery life and I think it was alot of touchscreen controls to modify the settings which would drive me insane
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I read it like I was in the note2 general forum...
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So just because it is in General means that anything posted about a camera means that you want an app? He was most definitely asking about a camera and how well it functions as the camera, not an app.
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Yeah my only issue is going to be battery life and I think it was alot of touchscreen controls to modify the settings which would drive me insane
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Yeah, I don't think the battery life would be terrible, it would be groundbreaking either, but them taking away a lot of buttons and replacing it with touch controls seems neat but would be a big pain in the ass for anyone using it as a camera that needs to change features frequently. That was on of the things I like the least about it, I understand the need or want to make it more sleek and that requires getting rid of buttons.... But man would it be a pain in the ass to deal with.
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So just because it is in General means that anything posted about a camera means that you want an app? He was most definitely asking about a camera and how well it functions as the camera, not an app.
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Yeah, I don't think the battery life would be terrible, it would be groundbreaking either, but them taking away a lot of buttons and replacing it with touch controls seems neat but would be a big pain in the ass for anyone using it as a camera that needs to change features frequently. That was on of the things I like the least about it, I understand the need or want to make it more sleek and that requires getting rid of buttons.... But man would it be a pain in the ass to deal with.
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Yep and good luck trying to pictures with gloves on.
Just curious why we are having a discussion on the galaxy camera in the note2 forum? Seems out of place since this thread has nothing to do about the phone.

LG G2 Picture and Video thread

I found a couple of G2 photosets on flickr. They look better than the older leaked photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635455147754/with/9708113419/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lgblog_de/sets/72157635373615615/with/9670122433/
Post any other pictures and videos you may find. I know some of you suckers already have the G2 from AT&T. Let me see what you're made of.
Thanks for the links! I am very interested to see how the camera compares to the Note 3. And these pictures look pretty good!
I was definitely going to get the Note 3 until I read it doesn't have OIS, now I am considering the G2... And the price is pretty good also. Only $575 off contract vs $725 for the Note 3 on AT&T.
Yes, those pics look awesome!!
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Thanks for the links! I am very interested to see how the camera compares to the Note 3. And these pictures look pretty good!
I was definitely going to get the Note 3 until I read it doesn't have OIS, now I am considering the G2... And the price is pretty good also. Only $575 off contract vs $725 for the Note 3 on AT&T.
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The Note 3 has OIS...
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No it doesnt, Note 3 has digital image stabilisation.
Yep, and in my opinion there is HUGE difference between that and hardware OIS...
Makes so many more of my pictures keepers.
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Yep, and in my opinion there is HUGE difference between that and hardware OIS...
Makes so many more of my pictures keepers.
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Well I saw this yesterday
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Camera-shootout-Note-3-vs-Galaxy-S4-vs-G2-vs-iPhone-5-vs-One_id47239
I can't find any definitive proof that the Note 3 doesn't have OIS. The O in OIS stands for optical, so there is no such thing as a digital OIS. That's just simple image stabilization, without the O.
Nvm. Poopoo it doesn't have it. I wasn't planning on getting it anyway. No one bothers to mention it besides dpreview. At least I can rely on them to get the camera specs right.
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/7967117746/hands-on-with-samsung-gaalxy-note-iii
So far the LG G2 is my fallback plan. The Xperia Z1 has established itself as having an awful camera, and screen, and is big and heavy for a small 5". The Note 3 is more of the same. I am sick of my cheap ass built Note 2 with squishy cover. No plans to upgrade to the same thing. My only hope is the Oppo N1 comes out to be amazing, and has a killer camera. All other companies have laid out their disappointing hands.
Any real world photos yet? I know a few of you have this beast
shea-bird said:
Any real world photos yet? I know a few of you have this beast
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Here's a quick one of my dog.
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Yeah, I'd love to see more actual user pictures also!
I would like a bigger screen than my HTC One, but I really like the camera on it and want to see what the G2 is capable of....
bleclair said:
Yeah, I'd love to see more actual user pictures also!
I would like a bigger screen than my HTC One, but I really like the camera on it and want to see what the G2 is capable of....
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There are already a bunch of shootouts and comparisons out there. The HTC camera has only 4MP so it looks blurry no matter what. It couldn't compare to 8MP cameras, much less the newer 13MP ones right now. HTC also has very bad processing with weird colors and heavy sharpening and noise removal. It was one of the best low light shooters on Android, but the G2 can compete with OIS, and has much better resolution.
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There are already a bunch of shootouts and comparisons out there. The HTC camera has only 4MP so it looks blurry no matter what. It couldn't compare to 8MP cameras, much less the newer 13MP ones right now. HTC also has very bad processing with weird colors and heavy sharpening and noise removal. It was one of the best low light shooters on Android, but the G2 can compete with OIS, and has much better resolution.
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Most of the pictures I've seen are from reviewers, not average users and that's what I'd like to see.
Just because the HTC One only has 4mp doesn't automatically mean blurry... I'm a crap photographer which I'll readily admit and I've got some great shots on the HTC One by just pointing and clicking. Here are a couple examples... If the G2 can do better, I'll be really happy with it! I'm tempted to head to an AT&T store this morning.
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Most of the pictures I've seen are from reviewers, not average users and that's what I'd like to see.
Just because the HTC One only has 4mp doesn't automatically mean blurry... I'm a crap photographer which I'll readily admit and I've got some great shots on the HTC One by just pointing and clicking. Here are a couple examples... If the G2 can do better, I'll be really happy with it! I'm tempted to head to an AT&T store this morning.
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You are right in a way. I have HTC One too but pictures become blur as you start to zoom-in because it is only 4MP. Whereas 13MP on the other hand has 3 times more detail in the picture. And to make the point clear, in a common user perspective G2 can blow HTC one out of water (in camera).
A quick pic I took in my office yesterday. Auto settings, didn't change anything.
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Some pics from yesterday, not really trying just pointing and shooting. Also i had changed my lcd density without setting the xposed framework to put the camera back at 480 so auto focus was confused the entire time.
http://imgur.com/a/CosU6
Those look really good for just point and shoot! Thanks!
One more from breakfast today, its still overcast outside. (Coast)
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Here's a quick one of my dog.
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Damn dude he is a cutey..is that a dooberman mix? Maybe a rotty?
Quick pic of our tall skinny sunflower
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