Best complete backup program - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi.
I want to find out wich is the BEST COMPLETE BACKUP of any android mobile phone program and if i can install it to an UNROOTED android phone.
I hear that clockwork is the best but i don't know if this program can work fine with UNROOTED phones because it suggest to install it only to rooted phone.
So please the persons who KNOW can answer to me with proof.
A LOF OF THANKS FOR ALL.

gotta have root for those backup programs.
Sync your contacts to Google and there you have a back up of them. Any paid apps from the market will always be allowed to be downloaded by you since you paid for them.
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So isn't there any program that it can do a complete backup of any android phone WITHOUT rooted or sing into google?

fits79 said:
So isn't there any program that it can do a complete backup of any android phone WITHOUT rooted or sing into google?
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Not that I'm aware of. What are information are you trying to back up?
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Everything so even the mobile doesn't open at all i can restore it and recovered at the position it was when i was make the backup.

fits79 said:
Everything so even the mobile doesn't open at all i can restore it and recovered at the position it was when i was make the backup.
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O...nope. your definitely going to have to root to have access to that.
"I love my Springfield XD40"

firstly you need root for any significant backup, withought it the best thing i would sujest is connecting your phone to a computer and just copy everything over, that will save most apps and things. But even with root i am not aware af any comprehensive backup app because there is so much to backup: ROM, Kernel, Contacts, Data, Apps as well as different locations where they are: OS storage, internal SD and external SD.
despite this i have found helpfull combinations of:
App Backup & Restore
Mobile Backup II
MyBackup Root
Titanium Backup
ROM Manager
some need root, some don't and some are partialy limited without root, but all were helpfull and have saved my rear a few times

fits79 said:
Everything so even the mobile doesn't open at all i can restore it and recovered at the position it was when i was make the backup.
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There is a way. Bring a storage device like a thumb drive and go into a sprint store or a radio Shack. They have machines (cellebrite) that can backup contacts pictures video and sd contents. Or you can do it yourself buy pushing everything to dropbox.
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thronnos said:
There is a way. Bring a storage device like a thumb drive and go into a sprint store or a radio Shack. They have machines (cellebrite) that can backup contacts pictures video and sd contents. Or you can do it yourself buy pushing everything to dropbox.
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Yeah, that's not "everything". If you want EVERYTHING backed up on your phone, you're going to need root. Normal "copy everything off of the SD card" doesn't get you things like app data or preferences/settings (like ringtone and notification tone settings, as two out of a thousand possible examples).
Now, if your device has fastboot enabled and you have an on-hand recovery image, you can likely
Code:
fastboot boot recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.0.2-crespo4g.img
(make appropriate substitutions for your on-hand recovery image file and device), and then do a nandroid backup from there. Aside from the data written to your storage device (on-device or SD card), that shouldn't permanently modify your system in any way.

With the titanium backup that it work ONLY on a rooted mobile we can make A FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of any android mobile.
And when i am saying full complete backup i mean(Rom, kernel, apps, settings e.t.c.) ALL the things that it has the mobile this time.
And after a change of rom or kernel i can restore ONLY the apps and settings to the changed rom/kernel?
A LOT OF THANKS.

fits79 said:
With the titanium backup that it work ONLY on a rooted mobile we can make A FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of any android mobile.
And when i am saying full complete backup i mean(Rom, kernel, apps, settings e.t.c.) ALL the things that it has the mobile this time.
And after a change of rom or kernel i can restore ONLY the apps and settings to the changed rom/kernel?
A LOT OF THANKS.
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TB doesn't backup kernel and its settings, widgets placed on homescreen, and certain system apps when you reflash same Rom. Only one way is a android backup which is same as an image backup in windows.
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So there isn't any program that backups EVERYTHING so you can restore it by choice everything you want....
Clockwork doesn't do a COMPLETE FULL BACKUP of any mobile?
I search one program that can make a A COMPLETE FULL BACKUP of any android mobile device like samsung galaxy s2.

Clockwork backs up your entire system. Including apps installed to sd card, but it won't backup info on your sd card normal storage (the one you can use a usb mass storage).
clockwork nandroid backup+regular backup of sd card = full backup of everything on your phone.
Of course, successful restore of the backup without modifications will only work in phones with the same model (no restoring a gingerbread backup of an htc device to an ics samsung device for example)

So clockwork can make a FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of entire monbile into an external usb har disk corrrect?
Then you can restore ONLY the apps if you install a custom rom to the mobile or the restore must be a complete and not a part of it.

A 'nandroid' which is done with clockworkmod or twrp or amon-ra is a complete backup...
Titanium backup does an app by app backup...
Titanium backup will also let you open the backup and pick out apps to restore if you use clockworkmod or twrp
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fits79 said:
So clockwork can make a FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of entire monbile into an external usb har disk corrrect?
Then you can restore ONLY the apps if you install a custom rom to the mobile or the restore must be a complete and not a part of it.
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Yes but not to a USB hard disk. You can chose from internal or externa SD card.
After that you can move it line any other file.
Pretty comon on flashaholics. They try a ROM and a few minutes later flash his entire system(nandroid backup) back.
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What is the twrp.
And the complete system backup you do with clockwork can toy restore ONLY the apps from this backup to a custom rom or kernel that may you have installed at the mobile like samsung galaxy s2?
Where is the clockwork and titanium backup topics so i ask here to.
A LOT OF THANKS.

One more time .. recovery=clockworkmod and does a backup equivalent to an image file in windows. You can save backup to pc, flash other roms and restore your user apps+data from titanium backups and start using. If not happy, restore cwm backup and it'll be exactly how you had it before. Do a nandroid backup, transfer to pc and look inside using winrar, 7zip etc and you'll see what it saves.
When flashing different roms you may or may not restore data from apps via TB as certain data may affect stabily, each custom rom lets you know. For TB best to gooble search their site for guide, troubleshooting, q&a.
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So bottom line is that i can make a complete full backup with clockwork and then can make apps restore with titanium backup correct?
If i leave the oficial rom and change the kernel then i have any problems from the apps restorations?

Nandroid does the full image backup everything, system, boot, apps, data just like windows image restore
Titanium backup for apps + data is great when using same apps across different roms .. read up on its site
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Backup with Titanium or CWM??

i am new to all this but managed to flash kh3 and root it.
i paid for the pro version of titanium and backed up everything on my galaxy s2 but it backs up to SD. isnt this the internal sd storage and thus would wipe when flashed with another firmware?? i looked into the CWM that came with the firmware but this is just a recovery console isnt it?
i guess i need some guidance of how to properly backup but maybe i want too much. i really was thinking along the lines of a ghost image of everything even things like APN settings etc.
any help appreciated guys.
The sd card isn't wiped when you install any other firmware.
The recovery console has a backup/restore feature, it makes an image of the firmware and software that's installed on the phone.
when i clicked the backup part of cwm it took me to the recovery console where it had factory reset, wipe partition ( or whatever it said) etc etc, i didnt then see it do a backup?
cheers mate
marc.knuckle said:
when i clicked the backup part of cwm it took me to the recovery console where it had factory reset, wipe partition ( or whatever it said) etc etc, i didnt then see it do a backup?
cheers mate
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Sounds like you only have Recovery console & not CWM. If you had CWM, you would see tons of options.
I always have a backup of my current ROM in CWM it's absolutely essential in case things go wrong which they have on occasions, i also back up my apps weekly witt Titanium Backup and delete the previous backup.
marc.knuckle said:
when i clicked the backup part of cwm it took me to the recovery console where it had factory reset, wipe partition ( or whatever it said) etc etc, i didnt then see it do a backup?
cheers mate
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Which kernel are you using?
kh3 from intratech's thread.
i downloaded rom manger and did the top option to get the latest cwm i think but when i tried to backup it errored and i had to press home to restart??
I just use titanium, backup all my apps to external sd card.
Format phone or install a new rom, and just restore all apps with 1-click via titanium.
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chrisjcks said:
I just use titanium, backup all my apps to external sd card.
Format phone or install a new rom, and just restore all apps with 1-click via titanium.
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This is going to sound like a stupid question, but what the heck.
I have Titanium backup and it backs up to Dropbox. Now if I Flash a new ROM, how do I go about restoring the backup?
In WinMo I have a backup program that created a zipped up file of backups and a small exe file that unpacked and restored the files (complete restore, ROM upgrade restore, etc).
Should use both!
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fred_up said:
This is going to sound like a stupid question, but what the heck.
I have Titanium backup and it backs up to Dropbox. Now if I Flash a new ROM, how do I go about restoring the backup?
In WinMo I have a backup program that created a zipped up file of backups and a small exe file that unpacked and restored the files (complete restore, ROM upgrade restore, etc).
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Batch restore.
Left button at the bottom of your phone > batch
Restore all from there.
If you set your folder location to an external sd card, you can format or install a new rom and your apps wont be touched. You can do a batch restore of all your apps from within titanium.
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marc.knuckle said:
kh3 from intratech's thread.
i downloaded rom manger and did the top option to get the latest cwm i think but when i tried to backup it errored and i had to press home to restart??
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Well that's your problem, your using a stock kernel, use cf-roots kernel that has cwm already built in.
cheers guys
Combine titanium media sync with titanium backup and you are sorted.
I have set automatic backup once a week, all is then synced via dropbox when i connect my phone on charger. This way I also backup all the pics and videos I take.
One thing I was wondering is there anyway to have titanium and premiere key backed up initself....in the sense that whenever I restore I always have to go to market get the key and the titanium app then started restoring...maybe I could go to my storage install them from there then reinstall instead off faffing with the market?
apologies if this is a silly question
I have the key on my external sd card .
jje

[Q] "nandroid backup"

Probably a stupid question, but is "nandroid backup" that's required e.g. to flash Task's ROM the same as the backup I do using Titanium Backup? I noticed TB does not backup whole Tab, as it is only 2-2,5Gb in size, while on my Tab I have some 10-11Gb of storage occupied (apps, photos, movies, mp3).
Is it the same, then? If not, do I need to use some other tools to do a proper "nandroid backup"?
Titanium Backup
1. What can Titanium Backup back up ?
All the applications you have installed, included protected ones,
All the data and settings of these applications,
Most (nearly all) of your phone's settings and data.
Titanium Backup 3.8.0+ will also backup the system applications from your ROM, not just their settings and data.
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A Nandroid backup is a backup of the whole system, you need to have Clockworkmod recovery installed to be able to perform a 'nandroid' backup.
You do a nandroid with ClockworkMod recovery. It's a advanced recovery instead of the stock. You can install this recovery with Rom manager from market.
This nandroid takes a snapshot of your whole system. And you can use it to go back to when the backup was made.
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Thanks guys. I'm rooted and have CWM, so I'll try there. Cheers!
titanum back up, where it will store our data? In our tab or cloud? Sorry for stupid question
On the SD memory built into the Tab.
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joseph168 said:
titanum back up, where it will store our data? In our tab or cloud? Sorry for stupid question
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If you get the paid version you can send the backup to a Dropbox account. Well worth the peace of mind.

[Q] Why do I need titanium backup and also something like CWM/TWRP?

I'm pretty new to this android stuff. I have rooted my phone and gotten titanium backup, but I also put CWM on it. I booted into CWM and had it backup my system. So what is the difference between titanium backup and CWM? I have heard people say that you should not back up system files with titanium, just apps and user data. Does CWM cover the system backup stuff? If titanium is able to backup user data and system files, why not just use that for everything? And how come titanium can run from the OS while CWM needs to be booted into?
Welcome to the world of rooting
So there is a fundamental difference between using CWM/TWRP to do a backup VS doing a backup from Titanium.
Doing a backup from CWM/TWRP backs up the system as a whole - think of it as a way to restore back whatever version you have - for instance I have a backup of my deoxed stock verizon image, i can boot to that anytime - i even have one with stock that I can revert to as well.
So this backup created by CWM/TWRP are an EXACT 1:1 image of what you have on your system.
Now the backup from Titanium is more for when you flash and need to put on your apps again you could use google play to restore everything OR use Titanium. Titanium is good for backing up the apps and their data - i don't use the system function.
So usage scenarios are:
1. I need to back to another image i had > use CWM/TWRP backup
2. I just flashed to a great new ROM <insert_name> and want to have the same apps i had when i had my previous rom, install titanium open it up and restore the apps you had backed up.
I hope this helps.
Cwm needs to be booted into and you use it to wipe data, cache, etc. Also make a nandroid makeup of your whole system which includes system files, apps, recovery images etc. Cwm isn't really good for restore specific apps. Its good for restoring the system as a whole. That's where titanium comes in. Can back up all apps, individual apps. Freeze and uninstall. Just a lot easier to work with
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Welcome to the world of rooting
So there is a fundamental difference between using CWM/TWRP to do a backup VS doing a backup from Titanium.
Doing a backup from CWM/TWRP backs up the system as a whole - think of it as a way to restore back whatever version you have - for instance I have a backup of my deoxed stock verizon image, i can boot to that anytime - i even have one with stock that I can revert to as well.
So this backup created by CWM/TWRP are an EXACT 1:1 image of what you have on your system.
Now the backup from Titanium is more for when you flash and need to put on your apps again you could use google play to restore everything OR use Titanium. Titanium is good for backing up the apps and their data - i don't use the system function.
So usage scenarios are:
1. I need to back to another image i had > use CWM/TWRP backup
2. I just flashed to a great new ROM <insert_name> and want to have the same apps i had when i had my previous rom, install titanium open it up and restore the apps you had backed up.
I hope this helps.
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This.
You can also use titanium to do stuff like freeze applications or move them to your sd card.
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Agreed - you will want both, but really you will use Titanium on your day to day when flashing, the other is for some more safe failures - although really you will probably have few but Titanium is good for scheduled back ups etc..
Very usefull if you do nightlies as well.
OP here, thanks for the info guys. Coincidentally, after making this thread I went into Titanium to backup my user data since I hadn't done it before, and I am getting an error:
"Batch backup interrupted, insufficient free storage space"
I have 25GB on my ext card but within Titanium it shows "This folder is not writable." Something's up with the permissions. I thought I could plug the phone in via USB, then try to set the permissions on the folders. So I plug it in, but the ext card shows completely empty on the PC.
I have manually added files to the ext card through my PC in the past, so something fishy is going on. I am able to backup to the internal memory, so it looks like I need to figure out how to fix the permissions on the ext card. Within my root browser the permissions show write access for owner.
Edit: Titanium really doesn't want to save backups to the external card... But I can create them on internal memory and move them over I guess.

Backup App and User Data Help?

I have been searching for an answer for this question for a couple of days now but have yet to find one, so I decided to go ahead and make a thread for it. What I am wondering, is how to create a backup of all my user data, apps, and app data that I can restore on different roms? I am currently stock rooted, however I have downloaded and wish to flash ARHD Rom, but I don't want to have to re install everything from scratch I just want to be able to click "restore" and have all my apps and data back.
Any Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Guys.
Pure+ said:
I have been searching for an answer for this question for a couple of days now but have yet to find one, so I decided to go ahead and make a thread for it. What I am wondering, is how to create a backup of all my user data, apps, and app data that I can restore on different roms? I am currently stock rooted, however I have downloaded and wish to flash ARHD Rom, but I don't want to have to re install everything from scratch I just want to be able to click "restore" and have all my apps and data back.
Any Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Guys.
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Because you are not rooted go this route. You do not require root.
1. Use the Helium app and copy the folder it creates onto your computer, it's called "CARBON." This will copy all apps and app data.
2. Use HTC Backup from the app store and backup everything onto dropbox. This will also backup your apps + data. It will be on a cloud storage so no need to push anything to anywhere.
3. Go into your SMS and hit the menu button. Backup all user text messaging. Copy to computer.
now you can report everything to anything.
After you are on your new ROM.
1. Run HTC Backup (comes with rom) and restore everything.
2. Use Helium to restore any missing apps.
3. Restore SMS.
Done.
SlimJ87D said:
Because you are not rooted go this route. You do not require root.
1. Use the Helium app and copy the folder it creates onto your computer, it's called "CARBON." This will copy all apps and app data.
2. Use HTC Backup from the app store and backup everything onto dropbox. This will also backup your apps + data. It will be on a cloud storage so no need to push anything to anywhere.
3. Go into your SMS and hit the menu button. Backup all user text messaging. Copy to computer.
now you can report everything to anything.
After you are on your new ROM.
1. Run HTC Backup (comes with rom) and restore everything.
2. Use Helium to restore any missing apps.
3. Restore SMS.
Done.
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I am rooted, what I'm really wondering now is if I can restore the data portion of my nandroid backup after flashing the new rom or if that will result in a bunch of FC's?
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I am rooted, what I'm really wondering now is if I can restore the data portion of my nandroid backup after flashing the new rom or if that will result in a bunch of FC's?
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Use Titanium Backup and it can grab apps from a nandroid backup and restore them. navigate for this feature through the options menu.
http://www.guidingtech.com/13501/restore-apps-nandroid-titanium-backup/
Yes, you can flash a clean Rom then restore your data file from a previous backup. the only problem with that is that whatever problems you may have had before, may be present still. Otherwise, it doesn't hurt anything. In fact, both CWM and TWRP allow advanced restore where you can select portions of your back up to restore..one a time. In my opinion, it allows you to see, if a backup fails to restore, where exactly it is having trouble, be it in system, boot, data..etc. I literally just did this, restoring a data backup onto a clean Rom, and so far no issues. I understand what you mean by not wanting to set everything back up. System settings, widgets and app placements. You had the perfect setup and it took you forever to get it that way. Titanium backup and Rom Toolbox don't always restore these things like they claim to do.
Edit: I am finding the hard way with this phone, that unlike my old LG Mytouch, when you flash a firmware upgrade, non OTA push I mean, it doesn't stick to system. It's saved to data. So if you flash a data file from a backup with an older version, your back to that version. With my old phone, we could swap Roms after an update all day, and the baseband and firmware updates would stick every time.

[q] restore apps from nandroid backup

Hi everyone,
I had upgraded my Galaxy Gio from stock rom to custom rom (CM 7.2 based), and now I want to restore just a few apps + data (for e.g. Memo) and Contacts (from stock rom) from my Nandroid backup, so I want it should be on the current custom rom.
How far I tried to do so, I could'nt get it done. I tried with NANDROID MANAGER, I installed it and tried to restore some apps + their data, (the apps was in previous rom in System/Apps so Nandroid Manager automatically wanted to install it in system/apps), ok, the program showed as it's installed with no broblems, BUT after reboot as it required, NOTHING HAPPENED, so I looked in system/apps and data/data with root explorer, those apps & data were there, but it was not installed.....
I also tried to restore the Contacts from Nandroid (Contacts Storage), and I ended up with erasing all contacts I had currently on the phone (anyway that wasn't a problem, cause i had an regular backup of it).
So I would like to understand what the problem is, and how is it possible to have my previous memos and contacts restored to my current rom?!
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS ISSUE?!
Thanks in advance.
If this were me I would make a nandroid of current ROM, wipe clean, restore nandroid of old ROM, use titanium backup (preferred but there are others) to backup apps and data (I use a different app for contacts and SMS/call log but I believe titanium can do this too) then I would wipe clean, restore nandroid, restore what is needed from titanium
May sound like a lot but should be finished in less than a half hour with all
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If this were me I would make a nandroid of current ROM, wipe clean, restore nandroid of old ROM, use titanium backup (preferred but there are others) to backup apps and data (I use a different app for contacts and SMS/call log but I believe titanium can do this too) then I would wipe clean, restore nandroid, restore what is needed from titanium
May sound like a lot but should be finished in less than a half hour with all
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Thank you for replying.
But I had read some posts that if the current rom is EXT4 based and stock rom is RFS based, then CWM wouldn't restore the backup normally (because the sd card has to be rfs format - something like this if I understood). So i'm a little bit afraid to do that cause I don't want to get stuck on boot....
Any sugestion for that??
Thanks in advance.
Well sd-card is always formatted as fat/ntfs irrespective of the rom....
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Like in the post above you will never have an SD formatted in rfs, but there are some recoveries that have issues restoring backups depending on the format the backup was made in but this doesn't appear to be your case (like if a backup was made in yaffs2 but recovery uses tar) so I really don't think this should be an issue for you. Having said that I have never used your phone before and if you're very concerned you should find another who has to ask. But I'm still 99% sure you're safe to do this
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