[Q] Question..I don't understand... - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I am confused as to why its ok to ask a question such as "What is the best launcher out there?" but when its asked "What is the best ROM out there?", the thread gets reported and locked. They are both based off user opinion. I will not "report" the thread on the launchers because that is Dumb to me. People ask a question for answers. Could somebody please give a logical explanation for this? It's a forum. People are interested in topics. As long as its in the question section, I don't understand the problem with asking a question.....

i hear you..and im sorry to say ..my opinion is it depends on peoples moods in the forum sometimes..sometimes its a superiority complex (SOMETIMES) if you ask me..
if someone asks a question that i might be able to point them in the right direction, i will respond..if not i just move on to the next. idk homey ...ive been hanging around xda since my captivate and its very useful..
if people flame your thread or close it, dont take it to heart, just rephrase the question lol...
i use apex launcher..ROCKS.. nova is also badass
and the ROM i use is ICS objection, i love my new phone thanks to this rom its clean smooth and no issues for me.. if you go down for this post im going down wicha brah!!!

Thanks
mejori said:
i hear you..and im sorry to say ..my opinion is it depends on peoples moods in the forum sometimes..sometimes its a superiority complex (SOMETIMES) if you ask me..
if someone asks a question that i might be able to point them in the right direction, i will respond..if not i just move on to the next. idk homey ...ive been hanging around xda since my captivate and its very useful..
if people flame your thread or close it, dont take it to heart, just rephrase the question lol...
i use apex launcher..ROCKS.. nova is also badass
and the ROM i use is ICS objection, i love my new phone thanks to this rom its clean smooth and no issues for me.. if you go down for this post im going down wicha brah!!!
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Much appreciation. I am on the OnlyOne HYFR B4 ROM and currently no launcher just TouchWiz that comes with the ROM...I been here since my Droid Milestone from Alltel but never really got involved til my Droid X. Don't get me wrong, I love XDA and all the help that comes with it, just thought it was a little crazy that they instantly hated on my thread. I feel ALL people and ALL questions deserve a spot. I'm not really taking it to heart..just wish it would have been given a chance like the rest of some of these threads. Thanks though for the support on what I'm saying..

no problem homey!!!

Ics=apex for options, and trebuchet for aosp feel, with few options, just fast.
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Asking what the best ROM is, is not actually a bad question. However it gets asked way too much. A new member will pop the question when right underneath him is the same question already asked a few times. And of course as you mentioned, best is not the best for everyone.
But I would have to say the main reason is it isn't fair to rate and judge one XDA Dev's work over another Dev. They all have positives and yes some negatives. It's not like there are 100 ROMs listed. The first 2 pages of threads will tell all. The threads are rated and the number of responses are a good hint. And you will learn more by spending some time reading and searching yourself even if you only read the first and last few posts in a thread. You could ask that question and have 3 noobs recommend a ROM all because it looks cool and it may be the worst performing ROM ever.
The launchers are for the most part, finished work. And they are offsite Devs. Also there isn't a thread on XDA for every launcher like there are ROMs. And questions about launchers should only be asked in the apps and themes section.

Question answered, thread closed
The biggest problem with 'Best' ROM threads is that they usually descend into petty bickering, which is why they are reported and ultimately closed.

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Sense 3.0 rom on sgs2 possible?

Anyone one else think that a sense 3.0 rom on the sgs2 would just be sexy?
I haven't heard of one in the works or even if its possible so excuse me if its already been talked about.
Input on this?
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Even I think this would be immense. I'm buying a sgs2 tomorrow. Can't wait!
For one Congrats man this device is awesome.
And for two, it would just be so smooth on the sgs2. Such a perfect experience I think. And my old device used to be the HTC desire, and I miss it for sure.
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The next one...
The searchbar won't bite you!
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http://bit.ly/xdanoob
I personaly hate sense. So no... I would rather like CM7.
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http://bit.ly/xdanoob
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pulser is on a mission today!
Ha that made me laugh.
Sorry guys noob i am XD
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Intratech said:
pulser is on a mission today!
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but he's right.
people should really start to use the forum search tool.
Its getting annoying to see all the "I can haz Sense 3.0/MIUI plzplz!!1!!" threads
kaukassus said:
but he's right.
people should really start to use the forum search tool.
Its getting annoying to see all the "I can haz Sense 3.0/MIUI plzplz!!1!!" threads
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It's nearly a meme at this point. I half expected to see a big "LOLZ I MADE JOKE!" as the first post in this thread.
pulser_g2 said:
http://bit.ly/xdanoob
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Keep fighting the good fight.
If you want sense 3 buy a Sensation not a GS2.
Check out the various benchmarks online between the sensation and the SGS2 and tell me if you want pretty widgets which potentially slow the phone down or a much faster phone which is slicker and more fluid.
No brainer if you ask me.
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Jabbypants said:
If you want sense 3 buy a Sensation not a GS2.
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Guys, no need to act liks a$$ holes. What the guy who post this simply means is that the excellent functionality of sense 3.0 coupled with the intense power of SGS II will yield a really good phone
i have an SGS II coming from desire HD. Touch wiz is ****, it does not even support scrollable widgets, and no other launcher like ADW to auncher pro offer the same graphics or functionality of sense
whether you agree or disagree, i think that to the majority of android users, i can safely say that sense surpasses any other launcher
It might not be possible to port it now to SGS II, but hell yea, i would love to see it on the SGS II
I have also noticed senior member on this forum treating noobs like ****. Guys dont be J&rks and remember you were noobs before
Double post lol ! I'm such a noob.
Biff.
RADLOUNI said:
Guys, no need to act liks a$$ holes. What the guy who post this simply means is that the excellent functionality of sense 3.0 coupled with the intense power of SGS II will yield a really good phone
i have an SGS II coming from desire HD. Touch wiz is ****, it does not even support scrollable widgets, and no other launcher like ADW to auncher pro offer the same graphics or functionality of sense
whether you agree or disagree, i think that to the majority of android users, i can safely say that sense surpasses any other launcher
It might not be possible to port it now to SGS II, but hell yea, i would love to see it on the SGS II
I have also noticed senior member on this forum treating noobs like ****. Guys dont be J&rks and remember you were noobs before
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Well said I'd much rather see a new thread, than see an old thread reincarnated just to discuss something. Maybe it's against interweb or forum code to make new threads to chat, but personally seeing threads with a million pages is a million times worse than seeing a question asked again and again and saves on having to check the forum day after day seeing no new threads because newbs are afraid to post for fear of being flamed (yes im a newb)
ps. I'd love to see sense on galaxy s 2 as touchwiz is pants, and so are Launcher Pro, Go launcher, ADW and the rest. Sense is about the only decent launcher out there in my book, but the HTC phones don't cut it anymore.
Biff.
So I've been trying to investigate whether Sense will be ported to SGS2 - lucky for me, I didn't create a thread.
I must say, I've read through a dozen thread and all the responses are: "use the search", "don't be a noob" etc etc.
Nowhere did I actually find any info on whether Sense could be / would be ported...
This is a community forum and there are a lot of people who are newbies - to Android, to smartphones... Does that make them stupid? Does that give the "clever" members the right to rip them off? Come on people, surely it's easier to just ignore a thread then to have pages upon pages upon pages of ripping people off?
I love the work the XDA community does but some members are just arrogant and obnoxious - instead of helping people to be less of a "noob", some of you rather just put them down and so they will always be noobs.
charlie_82 said:
So I've been trying to investigate whether Sense will be ported to SGS2 - lucky for me, I didn't create a thread.
I must say, I've read through a dozen thread and all the responses are: "use the search", "don't be a noob" etc etc.
Nowhere did I actually find any info on whether Sense could be / would be ported...
This is a community forum and there are a lot of people who are newbies - to Android, to smartphones... Does that make them stupid? Does that give the "clever" members the right to rip them off? Come on people, surely it's easier to just ignore a thread then to have pages upon pages upon pages of ripping people off?
I love the work the XDA community does but some members are just arrogant and obnoxious - instead of helping people to be less of a "noob", some of you rather just put them down and so they will always be noobs.
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Hey boet,
if you searched the forum for 'htc sense' you would find 18+ threads asking if sense is/was/will be ported to sgs2. Every day there is someone making a new thread , asking the same thing.
The senior members aren't being dicks, they are trying to keep the forums clean and tidy.
And why does everything have to be spoonfed? Haven't you heard that old proverb( i hope im not struck by lightning, thankfully i'm not on the highveld): give a man some fish, he will eat today. teach him to fish, he can feed himself?
If they dont try and find out for themselves, and post on the relevant topics, then they will always be noobs who cant help themselves. You are correct, 99% of people here were noobs once. but by reading threads/posts by more knowledgable members, you begin to learn.
Me? I'm still a noob. I dont know anywhere near as much as I would like to. Which is why I read what people post(when I have the time).
The answers are out there, if people actually use the search function. I would far rather see 4-5 threads, with a few pages of relevant information, than 20 threads, with 4-5 posts, all asking the same thing. Why does the same information have to be reposted every other day just because someone cant be arsed to read?
As for htc sense being ported over, its possible, like anything is, but bearing in mind that sense still isnt working 100% properly on the sgs1, its probably not likely in the near future. which is an answer which has been posted more than once, and not by me, I just did a search and read it(more than once, and in more than one thread).
Most xda members will help you, no questions asked. They just expect you to put a little effort in, instead of whining or being too lazy to use the search function or too lazy to read a thread or not being arsed to even post full details of their problem.
Nevermind about even reading the stickies which have useful information.
Sorry about the rant, but come on.
I honestly doesn't get it.
Why does everybody hate TouchWiz? And from what is seems on this thread, everyone loves HTC Sense
I think TouchWiz is awesome and looking good, unlike the HTC Sense which is effin ugly!
I am a noob, as a noob i know i have to use the search function so i dont gey flamed if i ask a question, but some people are truly annoying with their "use search bar" and thier xda noob video. ive seen some people just post the video on every.qurstion ive read, instead of doing that, what harm could come from just answering the question? You want to keep the forum clean? The question is already made, why not answer it again. Do you know how many pages are in the sgs 1 forum? Imagine going page through page just to get to the last one and see that the question you wanted answered just has some random guy posting the xda noob video.
I think all we noobs, including me (i may be a long time android user but i always want to learn more) should just get together and start making all our questions, even if theyve been answered before just to piss off all the people that post the xda video!! Just as it pisses me off when i see them answer a valid question with a stupid video.
I can just imagine some people, they must have the xda video ready and must go searching all day for noob questions just so he can put the video an laugh to himself.
If you see this is another htc sense kn gs2 question why do you bother looking inside. Just skip on by and let someone who actually wants to help answer the question. You are just making it harder to go through the question with a worthless video.
Im pretty sure some random guy is going to come and quote my rant and post the xda video, and im probably just going to laugh at the time he spent reading this just to paste a stupid url.
Sorry for the rant, but i am really annoyed by all this, and as i said before, to all noobs, just post your questions, someone will be willing to help, most of them will just send you a video url, but there are still some people that remember they were noobs.
The Q&A is for questions and answers so just deal with it!!
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Are you tired of the same questions? Vent here.....

There will be no fighting with anyone in this forum, its only to vent your anger here. I will start.
I try to help people by reading through the forum but everyday real problems are over shadowed by people asking what is the best way to root their thunderbolt....every day that shortly followed by how much they searched for this subject when if you simply search on Google Thunderbolt+root method you will find you answer, if you can't find Google, do a Bing search on it or askjoe.com
Second why are all these new guys over clocking to 1.9 and expect their phone to be stable? Don't they read the forum of the kernel they flashed? Or just rush to general or q&a and post freezing problems. People you will get very good support if you post in the kernel you use or Rom your kernel came with the developers keep their eyes on that thread.
When did thunderbolt general become Verizon support if you have a network drop, don't make a thread for each city it is down in, call Verizon don't think every issue has to do with a radio or your kernel or your Rom.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
aah - hahahaha!!! great idea for thread. how about the idiotic post like :
"down loading now... "
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My personal favorites (not in any particular order) :
1. Lol/Lmao;
2. What is the best ROM; and
3. Just rooted what now?
Arrgh!
"It works great for me / works for me, thanks" (in reply to a new update of something) (use the "thanks" button ffs)
"How do I install this? (install directions mentioned in the OP)"
"This alpha/beta/testing software sure is buggy / why is feature x broken in this? (broken issue mentioned in the OP for said software) (followed by vague description/no description of what is broken without a logcat by user asking question)"
"What's the best ROM / Rooting Method?"
"Help! I installed a non-root user RUU on top of my rooted phone"
"When will we get x / what is the eta for x?" (x = gingerbread|ics|next phone|new rom|etc)
Asking a question already answered in the stickied common questions / noob guide in the Q/A forum.
Go look at the PRL thread in the Incredible General forum. I get reamed out and called every name in the book.... But I was the only one that produced an answer! I'm about to the point of letting these idiots twist in the wind. I'm tired of fools that can't find the answers that are basically fed to them. And if a mod has a problem with that frustration, oh well... Do the right thing and ban stupid, not me.
I like when someone throws an off topic question in a thread and others bite. Then if you are interested in the original topic you have to filter through all the garbage to see if any progress or good information was actually posted.
Stratejaket said:
I like when someone throws an off topic question in a thread and others bite. Then if you are interested in the original topic you have to filter through all the garbage to see if any progress or good information was actually posted.
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or asking about how to fix an issue that was asked just 2-3 pages back when it really shouldn't be asked in the topic thread at all (post it separately in q/a). This is why developers don't reply to their threads much. They just get to be a mess and they give up.
I just ignore those.... It's easy, everyone should try it !
How do I get better battery life? Beating a dead horse.
The one I like is when they ask...
Hey has anyone tried Imo's yet...does it work? Does anyone know if it works?
I don't know, why don't YOU load it and tell us?????
Dnakaman said:
The one I like is when they ask...
Hey has anyone tried Imo's yet...does it work? Does anyone know if it works?
I don't know, why don't YOU load it and tell us?????
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The thought "help those who help themselves" always comes to mind when I see those posts !
Ya my other favorite one is when they ask which rom is the best.
I feel like asking them, so if I tell you to jump off a bridge will you do it?
If not, they why would you take what I say as the best rom as the gospel?
Roms are such a subjective thing. Some people like some things some like others.
My first Android phone was a G1, so I was pretty used to the "stock" experience. Even when I rooted, I stuck pretty much with Cyanogen.
When I got the bolt and realized Cyanogen was not really "available", I got into BAMF and I gotta tell you, they did a pretty impressive job with sense.
Before I would have just laughed at someone if they said sense was the way to go, but I really kinda like it now. So I know that even my viewpoint has changed somewhat.
I don't understand why these people cannot just go out and make up their own mind about which rom they like by just flashing them and trying them out. If they don't like it, they just nandroid back to what you had before they flashed the new rom.
I wonder if they all look like lemmings? Hmmmm.
I get so tired of people running AOSP ROMs creating new topics and stating in just about every AOSP ROM thread that they can't get a lock on their GPS...
Drunk texted from my CM7 Bolt
[RANT]Agreed. Google is my best friend. If I don't know how to do something when I cook my Rom, Google. When I need to know something about linux, Google.
STOP ASKING WHAT THE BEST ROM! THERE ISN'T A BEST ROM!!
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Sent from my HTC ThunderBolt powered by KillaSense 2.5
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Grnlantern79 said:
There will be no fighting with anyone in this forum, its only to vent your anger here. I will start.
I try to help people by reading through the forum but everyday real problems are over shadowed by people asking what is the best way to root their thunderbolt....every day that shortly followed by how much they searched for this subject when if you simply search on Google Thunderbolt+root method you will find you answer, if you can't find Google, do a Bing search on it or askjoe.com
Second why are all these new guys over clocking to 1.9 and expect their phone to be stable? Don't they read the forum of the kernel they flashed? Or just rush to general or q&a and post freezing problems. People you will get very good support if you post in the kernel you use or Rom your kernel came with the developers keep their eyes on that thread.
When did thunderbolt general become Verizon support if you have a network drop, don't make a thread for each city it is down in, call Verizon don't think every issue has to do with a radio or your kernel or your Rom.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
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Deal with it?
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hallstevenson said:
I just ignore those.... It's easy, everyone should try it !
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This will always be the best way to deal with it. A lot of things that happen on XDA drive me nuts but it is what it is. If you don't like it ignore it. This forum is like the rest of the world, a few people that get it and a bunch that don't. Raise your kids, tip your waitresses, move on with life.
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lrs421 said:
This will always be the best way to deal with it. A lot of things that happen on XDA drive me nuts but it is what it is. If you don't like it ignore it. This forum is like the rest of the world, a few people that get it and a bunch that don't. Raise your kids, tip your waitresses, move on with life.
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Gotta give that a +1. Move on and ignore it.
I really think more people should go out of their way to make stupid people feel and look stupid.
People who post a question then an hour or 2 later say "so no one wants to help". This isn't a chatroom, people don't just wait around on the boards all day to answer questions.
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loonatik78 said:
I really think more people should go out of their way to make stupid people feel and look stupid.
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- stupid people
+ iphone users
same thing

XDA Rules Etiquette & Respect

Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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I like this guy, but I have low expectations.
I personally have NO issue reading "noobie" questions. Everyone is different and I don't expect they must act like me. For you, me and others who spot a so-called "noob question", if you don't want to help then report the thread/post to mod so they can take care of. Yelling at newbies just makes the matter worse and that have been proved for ......... like you said, the past 6 months.
What irritates me more is SAME person asking the SAME question by creating multiple threads.
Therefore, for us, seniors, if you're not willing to help then just simply walk away from the thread, don't post, don't act like you are the mod.
One other issue, don't be an ass-kisser here.
For newbie, pls read the sticky thread FIRST.
This is 100% correct but you are missing one other important word to go with your "rules, etiquette and respect" slogan and that word is "Attention"
People need to pay attention! So if you could just change the title of the thread to "Rules, Etiquette, Attention, and Respect" or R.E.A.R. for short? Then I think that will cover it. So next time someone asks a question in the wrong thread? I can just point them right to your R.E.A.R.
Most of us are coming to under stand that there is no help what so ever for what the old gaurd calls common qustions so we just go else where
I spent 18 hours sunday working on my phone and I am happy with the results.
The biggest problem is even the fairly detailed instructions leave out the tiniest simple things people do not think of because they just figure everyone on earth should know it.
take for example if you are trying to get your phone ready and going right now the easiest way is to use the directions and flash to a older SU rom then up grade it from there. I searched for hours and could not find an answer to a simple question on why Odin would not upload the files I was trying to load so I had CWM.
In the end the answer, which I figured out my self, was that Odin will not load the .zip files everyone uses for CWM. I accedently tripped over a kernel that was in a different format,.tar, and got lucky.
After that I soft bricked the phone a few times following directions and then ran across the Little bricker Rom that had GREAT directions and loaded first time perfectly.
So for you old timers I might say step back every once in a while when you are writing the great write ups you do and think of the first time you did it. It is the little things that count and are left out most of the time
As Android grows you are going to have to deal with it more and more and you just can't keep kicking people in the teeth or they will not return. GOOD you say? No not good. Not everyone wants an Apple and you do not want to wind up like Nokia or the old PDA platforms that are dead and gone.
So take this how you may. I did get where I needed to go but a simple 20 minute gig took 18 hours to figure out because of the little things all of you take for granted and do not always include.
Thank you for the site
All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
The problem is visual.
The stickies was made by a dev. Just find a good NOOB to do it and youll be fine.
The first stickie must be how to flash a rom. But this one is not there. It is inside of another stickie at the line 157... cmon
The noob that decides to flash wont read all the stuff. He'll just read the info that he wants.
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RatusNatus said:
All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
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I don't think there is a lack of information, far from it. I think the problem is that the information is scattered. For example, the guy 2 posts up that tried to use a .zip in Odin...the information that you need to use a .tar is posted in these forums, it's just not in an easily accessible place like the FAQs. I think it's a combination of: lack of organization on the forum's side and laziness on the user's side.
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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Phalanx7621 said:
Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
I think some of you have forgotten how this place originally came about and its primary purpose. It was and still is, mostly, a place for developers and development. It was never supposed to be a help desk. That it is a great resource for people needing help is a secondary byproduct, not its raison de'tre. I think this misunderstanding is what leads to incorrect assumptions and expectations and, in turn, hurt feelings when the forum doesn't meet what some think it should be.
RatusNatus said:
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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I respectfully disagree. The noob does not need a step by step guide. The noob needs to read, research, and learn so that he (or she) can make sense of the available information. a quick guide so the noob "can haz ROM nao" is only going to lead to a disappointed, knowledge lacking noob later on down the line...
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Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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And you need to remember that the developers in here, for the most part, don't get paid for what they do. We get all their great stuff for free. Actually, we get it for the cost of doing our own research and finding our own solutions. Seems like a fair trade to me.
And as dandrum noted, helping noobs by leading them by the hand is a bad idea. People need to understand fully what they are doing and what it does because otherwise when they inevitably run into a problem they will have no idea what to do to fix it or where to start to even look. This stuff isn't rocket science, but it does require a certain level of comprehension. it is unfair to expect the unpaid members of this forum to bail people out when something goes wrong because they either didn't do their homework or have no understanding of what they're doing.
RatusNatus said:
Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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No they absolutely can complain because this is still a developer Site no matter how popular it becomes.
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you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
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What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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From my perspective I feel as though the vast majority of the time I have virtually no reason to post.
This is usually because of one of the following:
a- someone else has asked a question that I do not have the answer to, not that I'm a n00b but do not know or I would rather leave it up to the real devs to deal with it;
b- I would just be either flaming someone for asking a stupid question or leave a stupid question unanswered because some things should just be figured out by yourself; or most importantly
c- if i have a question or some other issue I can search for it or spend time reading through many posts because there are enough people and knowledgeable people around here that at this point my question or any sort of problem has already been answered, or at least the question has already been asked so there is no reason to spam the same questions over and over.
so just always remember before you make a possibly redundant post there are plenty of us sitting back and reading because usually that is all you need to do
What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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good one..
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good one..
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Wasn't supposed to be. The logic is sound.
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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Someone had to outline it
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**** has been outlined in almost every single thread I have look into.

Jelly bean capacitive lights

Where in settings is option to set how long capacitive lights stay on?
you have to more specific..There is alot of jelly bean roms floating around..And some are different..Perhaps rephrasing your question, you'll get a quicker response?
Well I thought my question was pretty straight forward, I ask here so as to not cloud the rom thread (they ***** hard about that)
Just like in a normal stock gb/ics rom, in display you have an option to set how long to keep the capacitive buttons lit: 6 seconds, as long as screen on, never, etc
Question is simply where is this option in jelly bean?
How crazy is that people get upset when people post frivolous questions in the "DEVELOPMENT" section? Who would have known? What fascist Nazis!
OP, you still didn't answer the question wish777 asked you. Instead you choose to be arrogant. So in turn I will not answer your question even though I know the answer.
how do you know which jelly bean rom he has? or is that setting in generically the same place?
saywhat10 : please specify which from you have... and someone familiar with that particular rom will answer. thanks
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How crazy is that people get upset when people post frivolous questions in the "DEVELOPMENT" section? Who would have known? What fascist Nazis!
OP, you still didn't answer the question wish777 asked you. Instead you choose to be arrogant. So in turn I will not answer your question even though I know the answer.
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If its a question that somebody doesnt know, and wants answered, how is that frivolous? The problem in the developer section is that they assume everybody is some techy and is supposed to know everything.
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How was I arrogant, i simply rephrased it like he requested. A 2 year old could understand my question I asked. Plus he didnt actually ASK me a question or ASK which rom I was on if you can read. You simply implied he did, but he didnt directly. He simply asked me to rephrase which is incredibly VAGUE. So i chose what to rephrase, was totally in the scope of his request
But i can be arrogant: Only kids play games like responding saying you know the answer but wont give it. Can beleive you took a simply question i asked and just ran with it for no reason
But Jimbomb, i'm on slimbean, but was on the impression that its a stock option,generically in the same place, independant of which jelly bean version. All the ICS roms they used they were all in the same place
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I'm currently using slim rom as well..I don't even see that option within this rom...?..thats strange...
No one is trying to play games bud....its just easier to know what jelly bean rom your on...There is no default jelly bean rom.....if you want to be specific your on jelly bean/cm10 to be honest...all the roms are using jelly bean as a base,with or without cm10...I'm not trying to be mean,Am only trying to help you?..if I knew more info, It would be allitle easier..but I can't or anybody else,because we don't know what rom you were on...
wish777 said:
I'm currently using slim rom as well..I don't even see that option within this rom...?..thats strange...
No one is trying to play games bud....its just easier to know what jelly bean rom your on...There is no default jelly bean rom.....if you want to be specific your on jelly bean/cm10 to be honest...all the roms are using jelly bean as a base,with or without cm10...I'm not trying to be mean,Am only trying to help you?..if I knew more info, It would be allitle easier..but I can't or anybody else,because we don't know what rom you were on...
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I didnt say you were playing game, i said the other guy was (simply replying to say he knows the answer but wont give it)
And again, the light settings is in the same place for all the GB and ICS roms,so going with that i assumed the actual rom name was irrelevant,since its a basic feature of all roms.
Now I'm definitely not giving you the answer.
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Now I'm definitely not giving you the answer.
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you already told me that, nothing new here
this post isnt for kid games
if you dont have an answer, why reply?
LOL wow everyone is so uptight...
Check here
Settings - Advanced - Sensors(tab up top) - Enable keys backlight checkmark
lmike6453 said:
LOL wow everyone is so uptight...
Check here
Settings - Advanced - Sensors(tab up top) - Enable keys backlight checkmark
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thanks, but on this jelly bean, theres no "advanced" after going to settings
First, its pretty standard procedure when asking a question to provide as much detail as possible such as what ROM you're on and what mods you're using, not just JB. That you did not.
Second, the development section does not require you to be a techie, it simply requires you to be observant and able to learn by reading, experimenting, and drawing your own conclusions.
Third, you basically answered your own question, which goes back to drawing your own conclusions from reading and experimenting. You stated that its available on stock ROMs. The duration setting is available only on TW based ROMs AFAIK, which you seemed to have observed. Since CM9/10 aren't TW based, they don't have the duration settings. The option to turn on or off is available on CM9 ROMs and CM10 ROMs that include the advanced menu under settings. If your ROM doesn't have the advanced menu, then the developer hasn't included it.
Remember, developers build these ROMs for themselves first, then generously share them with us. The answer to every 'why isn't this included?' question is that the developer simply hasn't included it. Just keep in mind that the developer built it for themselves on their own free time, and that you aren't entitled to anything, and you can politely suggest to the developer that a feature be included. Expecting and demanding won't get you anywhere. You were expecting this feature. If you're not happy use something else.
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First, its pretty standard procedure when asking a question to provide as much detail as possible such as what ROM you're on and what mods you're using, not just JB. That you did not.
Second, the development section does not require you to be a techie, it simply requires you to be observant and able to learn by reading, experimenting, and drawing your own conclusions.
Third, you basically answered your own question, which goes back to drawing your own conclusions from reading and experimenting. You stated that its available on stock ROMs. The duration setting is available only on TW based ROMs AFAIK, which you seemed to have observed. Since CM9/10 aren't TW based, they don't have the duration settings. The option to turn on or off is available on CM9 ROMs and CM10 ROMs that include the advanced menu under settings. If your ROM doesn't have the advanced menu, then the developer hasn't included it.
Remember, developers build these ROMs for themselves first, then generously share them with us. The answer to every 'why isn't this included?' question is that the developer simply hasn't included it. Just keep in mind that the developer built it for themselves on their own free time, and that you aren't entitled to anything, and you can politely suggest to the developer that a feature be included. Expecting and demanding won't get you anywhere. You were expecting this feature. If you're not happy use something else.
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Who the hell demanded anything? I simply asked a simple question in the correct Q & A forum
If you read I said I thought the answer was rom independent, do you know what that means? Then you are harping on me not saying which rom I was on but looks like it didn't even matter which one im on because the option doesn't exist on any dag on note jelly bean rom!
And if I knew the answer why the hell would I even ask the question in the first place? Use common sense please
And then you say we don't have to be a techie, but make a techie answer! Very funny math my man!
Only a techie knows how each stock cm9 cm10 aosp aokp works, I don't! So i asked a freakin question here!
Stop being so pressed to come on to flame people just because they are not a know it all like you!Either you wanted to give me an answer to my question or not, all that other stuff is totally unnecessary!!! This is what blows this whole community
I was trying to help you out man. This whole blowing up at people doesn't help anything, which I've consistently seen you do in the past. I was trying to tell you not that you knew the answer, but that you had already observed everything you needed to draw a reasonable conclusion that CM9/10 ROMs don't have the ability to set duration. My answer wasn't very techie, and I don't consider myself very techie, I just was trying to give you advice on how to better solve your own problems. You don't need to be a techie to try out the ROMs available and see what each one does/doesn't include.
Sorry about the last couple sentences, I realize they were harsher than they needed to be. But the rest really wasn't aimed at you, it was general advice about drawing your own conclusions and whatnot, which everybody can use.
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I was trying to help you out man. This whole blowing up at people doesn't help anything, which I've consistently seen you do in the past. I was trying to tell you not that you knew the answer, but that you had already observed everything you needed to draw a reasonable conclusion that CM9/10 ROMs don't have the ability to set duration. My answer wasn't very techie, and I don't consider myself very techie, I just was trying to give you advice on how to better solve your own problems. You don't need to be a techie to try out the ROMs available and see what each one does/doesn't include.
Sorry about the last couple sentences, I realize they were harsher than they needed to be. But the rest really wasn't aimed at you, it was general advice about drawing your own conclusions and whatnot, which everybody can use.
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This is a Q & A forum! We are allowed to post here instead of concluding. I did that and didn't appreciate getting attacked
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This is a Q & A forum! We are allowed to post here instead of concluding. I did that and didn't appreciate getting attacked
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I'm inclined to side with the OP on this one. I've noticed that a lot of active members here can be dickish towards new members with valid, albeit naive questions.
The whole community reeks of elitism, but I can look past that myself cause it's such a useful site. I'm not trying to fuel the flames, just pointing out what I have observed. None of the antagonism has been aimed at me, as I like to do a good job of supplying as much detail as possible when I post.... but still.
Ok guys. wuuussssaaaa. I can see both sides of the argument. Some older users can be a bit touch (which welch was not.) He gave you the answer to your question and explained why you did not find it.
As for being a techy know it all. There is no such thing. With the way the mobile OS is evolving, you are always learning something new. Now for your question, A search would have given you the answers you were looking for. As per the rules you agreed to when you joined. You did read them right jk lol.
You have to remember this is not just a Development forum but one of the biggest in the world. You will find techies, techie jargoon, and other things you dont understand. Take the time to learn, it will save you tons of frustration.
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Ok guys. wuuussssaaaa. I can see both sides of the argument. Some older users can be a bit touch (which welch was not.) He gave you the answer to your question and explained why you did not find it.
As for being a techy know it all. There is no such thing. With the way the mobile OS is evolving, you are always learning something new. Now for your question, A search would have given you the answers you were looking for. As per the rules you agreed to when you joined. You did read them right jk lol.
You have to remember this is not just a Development forum but one of the biggest in the world. You will find techies, techie jargoon, and other things you dont understand. Take the time to learn, it will save you tons of frustration.
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Ok so the answer is to use the search button to find my answers? Really? So why the hell does this forum exist? Technically all answers can be found by searching right? So Answer me that
BUT I did search whether you believe me or not, if I had found my answer common sense should tell you I wouldn't have made this post!
So again, if we can find answers by searching, why should anyone post a question in this forum?
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Ok so the answer is to use the search button to find my answers? Really? So why the hell does this forum exist? Technically all answers can be found by searching right? Answer me that
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Well considering that there are over 4 million members, then yes. The question. Has a good chance of already being asked at some point or another. Do you really think your the first to notice the missing option?
So you search first. And then on the off chance you can't find anything even remotely related to your question, then you open a new thread
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Hi all I have been away from the forums for about 6 months and I'm out of the game a bit. What is the best, most reliable, and most working rom to be on KitKat?? If you are thinking about writing something not constructive or tell me to read please dont respond to this. I can read all day long but fact is that asking the question and getting responses is much better than trying all the roms and reading all 100's of posts for each rom. thank you
sorry man but good luck with that, that is basically asking others to pit others work against one another and is frowned upon around here. best thing to do is make a nandroid and start flashing away till you find a rom you like. remember what may work for others may not work for you due to hardware being created in batches. good luck on your search for finding a suitable daily though...
Agreed....
I know you dont want to hear, but you will have to read.
Here is a constructive tip though. Only you know what kind of user you are. Yes reading can be daunting, that's why I start reading in the back of the thread. This tells me what the most recent issues may be and if there are fixes.
At least you won't have to read as much.
Good luck
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