[Q] Switching Between ROMs - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I installed CM 7.2.0-RC3
I would like to play around with some other ROMs
My questions are:
1) Any recommendations for some good ROMs? Specially ICS ROMs
2) Should I follow the exact same process as I did with CM (I used ROM Manager and ticked all the boxes - clear dalvik, clear something else etc)
3) I noticed that nandroid does not generate a single zip like flashing ROMs. How do I restore and why would I used this option if I can just re-flash ROM?
Thanks!!!

mickeycohen said:
Hi,
I installed CM 7.2.0-RC3
I would like to play around with some other ROMs
My questions are:
1) Any recommendations for some good ROMs? Specially ICS ROMs
2) Should I follow the exact same process as I did with CM (I used ROM Manager and ticked all the boxes - clear dalvik, clear something else etc)
3) I noticed that nandroid does not generate a single zip like flashing ROMs. How do I restore and why would I used this option if I can just re-flash ROM?
Thanks!!!
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1. Joker's ICS ROM, Neutrino CM7 ROM, and NottachTrix4G GB ROM
2. Don't use ROM manager to flash ROMS, use a recovery ROM racers ect..
3. For nandroid, I personal do this. I do a backup of a ROM. And when I want to flash the ROM I flash the ROM itself, no Gapps or anything and then I restore the ROM with the nandroid backup.
Hope I answered your questions alright.

Voelker45 said:
1. Joker's ICS ROM, Neutrino CM7 ROM, and NottachTrix4G GB ROM
2. Don't use ROM manager to flash ROMS, use a recovery ROM racers ect..
3. For nandroid, I personal do this. I do a backup of a ROM. And when I want to flash the ROM I flash the ROM itself, no Gapps or anything and then I restore the ROM with the nandroid backup.
Hope I answered your questions alright.
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I would agree with #1 and #2.
For #3 I would recommend a nandroid backup, then verify the backup before you reboot to make sure it is good. No need IMO to flash the original ROM when restoring from a nandroid. Much more important to do a full wipe first, then just flash your nandroid backup.

Voelker45 said:
2. Don't use ROM manager to flash ROMS, use a recovery ROM racers ect..
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ROM Manager is fine as long as you have good experience with your recovery image. It exists for a reason.

nerfman100 said:
ROM Manager is fine as long as you have good experience with your recovery image. It exists for a reason.
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I just use Romracer's for a worry free experience.
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Deggy said:
I just use Romracer's for a worry free experience.
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+1
~Sent from my Unlocked, Rooted, Faux 1.45gHz Motorola Atrix 4G~

AOKP is also a really good ROM. You should check it out.
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Well, if ROM manager does the job I think I will use it. I'm assuming it's simply building a script that does everything that's needed.
I really don't have any experience with recovery
As for backups, I think I will simply use Titanium for my Apps and Data. Everything else I need is backed up on Google so I should be fine
Thanks everyone!!!

OK, download gapps from:
http://www.jokersax.com/developer-pages/jokersax/cm9-gapps/
and aokp from http://d-h.st/e7A
Are these ok?
Can I simply go ahead and install through ROM Manager?

Gapps from here
http://goo.im/gapps
*Edit*
Actually I think that AOKP zip comes with gapps as an option in it.
And it doesn't matter if you use ROM manager or not.
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Thanks!
Where can I find build 38 for the Atrix?

mickeycohen said:
Well, if ROM manager does the job I think I will use it. I'm assuming it's simply building a script that does everything that's needed.
I really don't have any experience with recovery
As for backups, I think I will simply use Titanium for my Apps and Data. Everything else I need is backed up on Google so I should be fine
Thanks everyone!!!
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Well.... Actually nandroid backup is better than titanium or other things in case you got softbrick after flashing.
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[Q] is it safe to update rom using Rom Manager Premium?

this the first time i'm using Rom Manager Premium and I'v just got an update saying there's a new update for my Progect V rom.
basically every time there's a new version of this rom, i'm doing a clean install which erases all my data.
how basically Rom Manager updates roms? is it doing a clean install or just installing on top? and is it a safe way to update?
EDIT: another question, will it erase all my data while updating?
thanks.
Well i dont use project V rom on rom manager premium, but i do use cm7 nightlies on rom manager premium. On cm7 when u get a update they ask u 3 things:
back up rom
wipe dalvik
wipe data
so download it and see, it probably goes through the same steps of cm7.
is it overall a safer way of flashing roms than using CWN recovery?
movieaddict said:
Well i dont use project V rom on rom manager premium, but i do use cm7 nightlies on rom manager premium. On cm7 when u get a update they ask u 3 things:
back up rom
wipe dalvik
wipe data
so download it and see, it probably goes through the same steps of cm7.
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There's a difference between the CM7 nightlies and the Samsung roms that are for the galaxy s. A wiping rom vs non wiping is up to the rom maintainer, and there really isn't a way around it.
Get titanium backup pro (the paid version as it allows batch backing up and restoring) and backup your user apps, then you're good to go no matter what type of rom it is.
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[Q] Quick question regarding updating.

Dear reader,
I've currently been using Cyanomod for 2.3.7 Gingerbread.
My phone is rooted and everything (which took a little while )
Everything is running perfectly fine, but i would like to update my phone to android 4.0+ (whatever the lastest compatible version might be)
How should i go about this?
Do i basically uninstall everything and start from scratch or is there an easy method to quickly update my phone to android 4.
Kind Regards and Thank you for your time!
I believe the answer us first to backup your apps with titanium backup if you need them. Then go to recovery and backup your current Rom. (always be sure to do this). from recovery wipe factory reset and dalvik cache. Then install your new Rom from zip.
You cannot install an android 4.0 + over another version. Always backup and wipe.
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TJ007 said:
I believe the answer us first to backup your apps with titanium backup if you need them. Then go to recovery and backup your current Rom. (always be sure to do this). from recovery wipe factory reset and dalvik cache. Then install your new Rom from zip.
You cannot install an android 4.0 + over another version. Always backup and wipe.
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Do i need to re-root my phone when i install a new Rom? Or should i just install it through recovery?
Rom's are pre rooted (expect stock, stock BASED roms ARE pre-rooted), once you've installed the rom through cwm, it will be rooted and ready.
cashtecz said:
Dear reader,
Do i basically uninstall everything and start from scratch or is there an easy method to quickly update my phone to android 4.
Kind Regards and Thank you for your time!
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If your bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom kernel (Based on ics, so it'll be compatible with ics rom) And boot into recovery, and flash a custom rom based on ics.
One last question, since i'm having trouble finding compatible roms.
Which one would any of you, recommend for me to use ?
I have a ST18i and i'd like the lastest compatible rom.
Thanks so much for the fast reponses and ofcourse the help.
Kind Regards,
Since you're using CyanogenMod 7 I would recommend you to use CyanogenMod 9.1 i.e. FXP 138 is the best in my experience.
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mikii100297 said:
If your bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom kernel (Based on ics, so it'll be compatible with ics rom) And boot into recovery, and flash a custom rom based on ics.
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cashtecz said:
One last question, since i'm having trouble finding compatible roms.
Which one would any of you, recommend for me to use ?
I have a ST18i and i'd like the lastest compatible rom.
Thanks so much for the fast reponses and ofcourse the help.
Kind Regards,
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If your finding trouble with compatible roms are you saying your getting bootloops when trying them?, because a different Android Version requires a different kernel, So if you haven't or forget to flash the kernel recommended or provided then that would possibly be where your compatibility issues lye as you will get bootloops if you don't and you are changing version. As Mikii suggested earlier.
nh1402 said:
If your finding trouble with compatible roms are you saying your getting bootloops when trying them?, because a different Android Version requires a different kernel, So if you haven't or forget to flash the kernel recommended or provided then that would possibly be where your compatibility issues lye as you will get bootloops if you don't and you are changing version. As Mikii suggested earlier.
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Ahhh that must be it then.. I've been using the same kernel for quite some time now because it was quite a hassle to flash it. Different roms come with different kernels (at times). I'll have to figure out how to flash kernels again. Gonna check around the forums to see if i can find a suitable thread.
Thanks so much
sarangkunte05 said:
Since you're using CyanogenMod 7 I would recommend you to use CyanogenMod 9.1 i.e. FXP 138 is the best in my experience.
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When i look up Cyano 9.1 FXP 138, i get a list of downloads. FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-haida.zip , FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-mango.zip
What exactly are they and which one should i go for?
cashtecz said:
Ahhh that must be it then.. I've been using the same kernel for quite some time now because it was quite a hassle to flash it. Different roms come with different kernels (at times). I'll have to figure out how to flash kernels again. Gonna check around the forums to see if i can find a suitable thread.
Thanks so much
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The fastest way to flash a kernel is to use the program called flashtool, click on the lightening bolt, select Fastboot mode, then select kernel to flash find the kernel you want to flash and it should be done within literally 2 seconds. once Flashtool gives you the all clear, disconnect your phone from usb, restart phone, and there you go, the old kernel will be overwritten, and so will that kernel's cwm version, with the one from the new kernel.
Try FXP138
cashtecz said:
One last question, since i'm having trouble finding compatible roms.
Which one would any of you, recommend for me to use ?
I have a ST18i and i'd like the lastest compatible rom.
Thanks so much for the fast reponses and ofcourse the help.
Kind Regards,
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i would also suggest you to try FXP138 which is CM9.1 Android 4.0.4, Its pretty smooth and the brightness bug seems to be resolved:laugh: in FXP138 here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409053
Also here is a link for ROM comparison - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843741
Hope this helps!
FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-urushi
cashtecz said:
When i look up Cyano 9.1 FXP 138, i get a list of downloads. FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-haida.zip , FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-mango.zip
What exactly are they and which one should i go for?
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1. http://ul.to/f/zwx5le
2. choose and download FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-urushi.zip
3. Flash the kernal inside above archive.(using fastboot mode.)
4. Enjoy.....:good:
Note:
urushi is the modder for Xperia ray(ST18i)
ramakrishnanjk said:
1. http://ul.to/f/zwx5le
2. choose and download FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-urushi.zip
3. Flash the kernal inside above archive.(using fastboot mode.)
4. Enjoy.....:good:
Note:
urushi is the modder for Xperia ray(ST18i)
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Nevermind, i figured it out!
cashtecz said:
Nevermind, i figured it out!
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Hey,
Everything is installed and running, however i am wondering about just one thing.
Whenever i reboot my phone i get, right after imputting my sim code, a Unlock Network SIM message.
What is this and how can i solve it?
Regards,
(oops just realized i made a double post, apologies!)

How to install ROMS on UCLE5 Stock ICS Root w/ Siyah v4.3.3 w/o mic swap

After reading over lots and lots of threads, I finally got up the courage to root my phone.
I followed these instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746181
I flashed the "Kernel + Modem + Cache + Rooted UCLE5 System Package" using Odin, downloaded Mobile Odin, and then flashed the safe Siyah 4.3.3 kernel w/o mic swap to avoid bricking due to the eMMc bug. Everything seems to be working fine. I have Superuser, Mobile Odin, and CWM Recovery.
My question is what are my ROM choices and how do I go about installing them?
I'f I'm reading the instructions correctly in the thread with the rooting instructions, I only have the three options for kernels in that thread and I MUST use a w/o mic swap version.
On the Siyah thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592228, the only ROMs listed that work with w/o mic swap Siyah are Criskelo and UCLD3. Are these my only choices for ROM?
Are these the proper files for Criskelo?
Criskelo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500891&highlight=criskelo
I can't seem to find the files for UCLD3.
To be clear, I was coming from a stock i777 with stock ICS and UCLE5. I'm now running 4.0.3, I777UCLE5, 3.1.0-rc8-Siyah-v4.3.3-nomswap ([email protected]).
Thanks for any help. I've searched and read a ton, but I just can't make sense of it all.
You can use any rom you want. It will come with its own kernel and overwrite the one you have
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Pirateghost said:
You can use any rom you want. It will come with its own kernel and overwrite the one you have
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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So this from the the first thread isn't true?
"You must use an ICS kernel, and it must work with Samsung firmware, and be the no-mic-swap version. If you install a Gingerbread kernel the phone will not boot."
Sorry, it's all a bit confusing to me.
dillon_b12 said:
So this from the the first thread isn't true?
"You must use an ICS kernel, and it must work with Samsung firmware, and be the no-mic-swap version. If you install a Gingerbread kernel the phone will not boot."
Sorry, it's all a bit confusing to me.
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Then don't go and mess with your phone if you don't understand what you're doing. The information is not that complicated.
dillon_b12 said:
So this from the the first thread isn't true?
"You must use an ICS kernel, and it must work with Samsung firmware, and be the no-mic-swap version. If you install a Gingerbread kernel the phone will not boot."
Sorry, it's all a bit confusing to me.
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Just do as Pirate says and you will be fine. Dont worry about the kernel because the rom you want will have the appropriate kernel packaged in
dillon_b12 said:
So this from the the first thread isn't true?
"You must use an ICS kernel, and it must work with Samsung firmware, and be the no-mic-swap version. If you install a Gingerbread kernel the phone will not boot."
Sorry, it's all a bit confusing to me.
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it means that if you use an ALTERNATE kernel, which a lot of people like to do, then you must abide by those guidelines. all roms come packaged with a 'recommended' kernel....just flash one and you will see.
Pirateghost said:
it means that if you use an ALTERNATE kernel, which a lot of people like to do, then you must abide by those guidelines. all roms come packaged with a 'recommended' kernel....just flash one and you will see.
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Thanks, that makes much more sense.
Ok, so for this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005266
How do I do an EFS backup? I have searched this, but haven't found anything specific to this phone. Just want to make sure I am doing it correctly.
The next step is to do a FULL BACKUP. I did a backup in CWM Recovery. Does that work?
When I move the ROM to my phone, do I take the whole zip file? Is there any particular file(zImage?) I point to when flashing through CWM or is it the whole zip file?
Thanks again for all the help.
I successfully flashed SHOStock2.
Thanks for the help guys.
dillon_b12 said:
Thanks, that makes much more sense.
Ok, so for this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005266
How do I do an EFS backup? I have searched this, but haven't found anything specific to this phone. Just want to make sure I am doing it correctly.
Use any EFS Backup App
The next step is to do a FULL BACKUP. I did a backup in CWM Recovery. Does that work?
Yepp that is a Nandroid backup
When I move the ROM to my phone, do I take the whole zip file? Is there any particular file(zImage?) I point to when flashing through CWM or is it the whole zip file?
Nope just keep the whole zip and select it in CWM
Thanks again for all the help.
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See my replies in bold
dillon_b12 said:
I successfully flashed SHOStock2.
Thanks for the help guys.
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Good choice for a first ROM. When you get bored with that Shostock3 is really nice but wait until 1.5 comes out. It has some fixes that will polish it up nicely.
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attsw said:
Good choice for a first ROM. When you get bored with that Shostock3 is really nice but wait until 1.5 comes out. It has some fixes that will polish it up nicely.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda app-developers app
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Would going to SHOStock3 require a wipe? I understand that upgrading to new versions of an existing ROM usually does not, but since this is a different ROM it seems like it would require the full wipe.
What is the easiest way to retain as many of my settings, etc... as possible when doing full wipes? I have Titanium Backup already. Is there another program that will help me retain more?
dillon_b12 said:
Would going to SHOStock3 require a wipe? I understand that upgrading to new versions of an existing ROM usually does not, but since this is a different ROM it seems like it would require the full wipe.
What is the easiest way to retain as many of my settings, etc... as possible when doing full wipes? I have Titanium Backup already. Is there another program that will help me retain more?
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Yes on the full wipe before flashing the new ROM.
What else are u trying to retain besides apps and their data? If that's all TiBu is fine
brandonarev said:
Yes on the full wipe before flashing the new ROM.
What else are u trying to retain besides apps and their data? If that's all TiBu is fine
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It would be nice if I didn't have setup e-mail everytime, but if I can keep my apps and their data with TiBu, that should be fine.
dillon_b12 said:
It would be nice if I didn't have setup e-mail everytime, but if I can keep my apps and their data with TiBu, that should be fine.
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Once you get accustomed to it, flashing with a full wipe isn't too bad. Make a nandroid backup in case you decide to go back. And I would recommend you buy the full version of titanium back up to get the batch features, and support the developer. It is probably the most important app for those that flash regularly.
I can fully wipe and flash and have everything back up and running the exact same way it was in like 10 minutes. But I like the chance to start fresh

Installing from ROM Manager

Hey guys. I have a litening rom 2.3.6 still... i have installed rom manager and i found in there a CyanogenMod rom. I was thinking...
Can i just download and install from ROM manager ? Pls help
Don't use Rom Manager. At all. For anything. Does not play nice with CWRecovery on SGS2. Has a tendency to break it & cause bootloop.
Flash roms/mods/whatever directly from CWRecovery, I.E download CM zip & put in on your internal/external SD card, boot into recovery & flash from there.
Okay so. I want to install disaster rom 4.1.2. But i have 2.3.6 lite ning rom. Can i just flash directly to that rom? Do i need to do a wipe data and cache ?
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Raymi95 said:
Okay so. I want to install disaster rom 4.1.2. But i have 2.3.6 lite ning rom. Can i just flash directly to that rom? Do i need to do a wipe data and cache ?
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Raymi95
You should ALWAYS wipe data and cache before flashing anything. Also wipe Dalvik-cache if necessary. You need to find that ROMs ZIP file and then you can flash it. Or tar/tar.md5 if you prefer Odin. But remember ALWAYS wipe.
But i also wonder if you can directly download a JB ROM (im on ICS currently).
There shouldn't be a problem to go from ICS to JB, but i am still not sure and that's why im wondering.
Follow the install instructions for that particular rom from the first page of the thread devoted to the rom. But generally when you move from one rom to a completely different rom (as opposed to merely flashing a nightly or different version of the same rom), you wipe.
R: Installing from ROM Manager
Okay got it. Another last question . I am on 2.3.6, do i need to flash to ICS first? I mean can i install a cyanogen10 directly from clockwork?
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I don't think I can be any more clear than I was in my previous post, but I'll try:-
Read the instructions on the first page of the CM10 discussion thread. Follow these instructions to the letter. If they don't specifically mention that you need to flash rom X before flashing CM, then you can safely assume you don't need to. Likewise if they do have such an instruction, do it.
This goes for flashing any rom. Follow the instructions. Every rom has them, and I've never seen a rom that has flashing instructions that are not clear/simple.
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Sorry for being annoying. But i am just super scared to do it. But i did once xD. Anyway thanks for explanation. You re thr best xD
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No need to be scared. As long as you do your research first & understand exactly what it is you're going to do with the phone before you do it, you should be fine. Don't rush, take your time. Phone isn't going anywhere
You're welcome
Raymi95 said:
Sorry for being annoying. But i am just super scared to do it. But i did once xD. Anyway thanks for explanation. You re thr best xD
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Aosp!!

My Titanium Backup wont work with any aosp or aokp roms. What is the reason??
Any way to use it in aosp??
I need my backups!
Rahulrao said:
My Titanium Backup wont work with any aosp or aokp roms. What is the reason??
Any way to use it in aosp??
I need my backups!
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i do not know the answer but i suggest you to change the title a little bit describing the problem so that someone can help you.
Rahulrao said:
My Titanium Backup wont work with any aosp or aokp roms. What is the reason??
Any way to use it in aosp??
I need my backups!
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A few questions;
1. What happens when you try to restore the backup?
2.What ROM are you using now?
3.What ROM were you using when you made the backup?
4.Have you performed a complete wipe since making the backup?
After you answer these i might be able to help you.
tomosh22 said:
A few questions;
1. What happens when you try to restore the backup?
2.What ROM are you using now?
3.What ROM were you using when you made the backup?
4.Have you performed a complete wipe since making the backup?
After you answer these i might be able to help you.
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1. First i found the directory and pressed backup. It din begin only stuck at 0/56 (apps)..
2. Im currently using omega rom
3. Had flashed fusion rom.
4. No wipes.Im a regular flasher and im good at making things work. I tried everything, changed kernel, made a super wipe and installed rom again..still no luck..This happens everytime i install a aosp,aokp rom
Rahulrao said:
made a super wipe and installed rom again
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Sorry, I'm confused, you said you didn't make a wipe, but then you said you did. Please try to be clearer. Also, Ive never used either of those ROMs so it may be that their file systems are incompatible, see if the backup works on the Fusion ROM. If it does, then they probably are, if it doesn't then the backup may be corrupt.

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