Choosing a stylus - TouchPad General

Hi
I've tried a few cheap styli and not been that impressed, bought a low cost one off amazon which had a weird chiselled angled bit and was unusable (I was so disappointed).
The next one I have tried was from the pound shop! Works OK actually but not very precise, it has a squashy rounded edge.
I think I'd like to spend up to maybe a few pounds... will let you know...

Unfortunately, I have yet to find a capacitive stylus that doesn't have the big rounded end on it. I picked up a pair of cheapos off of Amazon for about seven dollars each last year, and while mine kinda fell apart (The tip was just held on with surface pressure - a little super glue fixed that), my girlfriend's has survived all the better. Plus they double as ballpoint pens, which is kind of nice - one piece of equipment, two functions.
I've been looking into getting a replacement stylus for myself, one that's longer and more like a traditional pen (the short squat ones are a little odd for me). However, none of them have a pen-like pointing tip. All of them are the rounded rubber fingertip-style tip.
Anyone else found a pen-like tip stylus ? I did some googling and found that the nice special narrow-point S-Pen for the Samsung Note won't work with standard devices like the S2 or the HTC Amaze (which sucks, because it's a good-looking tip).

That's interesting - I wonder how the stylus on the Samsung works, is there something different about the screen to recognise that stylus?

From what I read, there's another electromagnetic layer in the digitizer that allows for that stylus to work in a pressure environment - the longer / harder you press, the more "ink" shows on the screen, kind of like when you press harder with a pencil - the wider and darker the line.
Plus, from what I read, it isn't really capacitive, since it doesn't work on other tablets / phones, which sucks. I would love a fine(r)-tip stylus.

thx for that -
sounds like a cross between an [old fashioned?] resistive screen and a capacitive one!

I have the tried the Targus, the Bamboo, and the Samsung model for the Galaxy Tab line. The Bamboo has a good shape and is only slightly heavier than the Targus model. Samsung is the heaviest and is balanced more the way a writing instrument/heavy ball point pen would be.
I don't think the tips are really all that different though. If price is an issue and you don't like the Targus style/look, I'd say go with the Samsung. It's around $20 on Amazon while the Bamboo will cost you $30. They both definitely feel more like writing/drawing tools, and because of that they are somewhat better at making marks.
On the other hand, there is no lack of do it yourself options out there.

thx! totally cool, want to make my own now!

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Griffin Stylus

I got one of these for Christmas and love it. No, I'm not affiliated with the company.
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Technology-Stylus-iPhone-touchscreens/dp/B0041D0K1Q
Great way to keep fingerprints off your shiny screen.
Doesn't look like it has a very fine point which would be the only reason I would want a stylus, for more precision... When I'm trying to grab something my steak fries are too big for..
It's got a domed tip that is squishy, so it's as precise as you want depending on pressure. The whiteboard app is the only thing I've ever seen that took advantage of a fine point and it works perfectly.
I iPad Touch came with a similar stylus. Works great. My wife got some from Taiwan that have angled rubber ends for about $0.50 a piece. They work pretty good too. Similar to an pencil eraser.
So far I haven't needed on on the G-Tab and I've got "huge" fingers.
Try it with multi memo
I have one and have used it, briefly, with an app called multi-memo for taking notes.
Those Chinese ones are so cheap. They are too light and you have to drag them across the screen minimizing accuracy. I bought it for Stickdraw, def. Not worth it. I think i'll try this one.
Is it kind of heavy or really light? I want one that's heavy like a pen.
The stylus actually has some weight to it and does indeed feel like holding a real pen, it looks and feels like a quality handwriting implement. You'd have to really work to damage the metal casing, it remains to be seen how durable the rubber dome tip will be.
Took me a few minutes to get used to the squidgy, bulbous tip but then I was navigating around, playing games with it and testing my handwriting in a paint-mode note in 'Note Everything'. If only I could find a notepad application with good handwriting recognition*, I'd be in hog heaven...
* One that actually recognizes properly formed characters, not abstract sets of strokes
I bought one of those cheap Chinese ones (3 pack for $6) and was really disappointed. Then I looked online for ways to make your own. I was familiar with using those antistatic bags from hard drives and computer components, but then noticed one method that uses a common household sponge.
I took an old metal pen I had that I really liked, but didn't have ink anymore and took the tip off. I then cut off a small cube of a new sponge (with my wife's permission) and "screwed" it into the spot where the metal tip was on the pen. Worked like a charm.
I tried it on everything from my tablet to my iPod and my phone and it worked great on everything. I playd around with the updated tablet optimized version of Autodesk Sketchbook Express and it worked out great!
There are lots of videos on YouTube of how to make them, but using a metal pen seems to be what looks best. Some of the others look terrible.
Here's a picture, in case anyone is curious. I may get a pack of a different color of sponges because I don't like yellow, but that's all my wife had at the house when I did this project.
I'm also going to retrofit those crappy Chinese styluses I got, as they have metal housings. Should work the same as the pen did. Just need to rip off the rubber heads and maybe drill out the insides to get the sponge to fit and make contact with the housing.

[Q] Stylus for Gen8 Devices

Anyone know of a decent stylus I can buy that will register on the Gen8 screen?
~Jeff
Search some "capacitive stylus" on google, i think you'll find (i don't know a precise one if it was your question)
I use this one :
dealextreme.com : retractable-touch-screen-stylus-with-3-5mm-earphone-jack-anti-dust-kit-for-iphone-3gs-4-silver
but my finger is much better than any stylus
which gen8 device?
for the 28, 32, and 43, which use resistive touch screens, anything will work. i personally have nice results on my 32 using a nintendo DS stylus. they're also cheap, so you don't have to worry about losing them occasionally.
for a 70 or 101, you'd want a capacitive stylus as the above posters suggested.
I've read a lot of reviews and this one seems to be one of the best.. I've haven't bought yet, but plan on getting this one:
Kensington Virtuoso Touch Screen Stylus and Pen
http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Vi...R&s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1309071754&sr=1-2
These stylus are capacitive stylus if you want to search for others.
Also only for the 70 and 101.
This one looks pretty good http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Technology-Stylus-iPhone-touchscreens/dp/B0041D0K1Q
Searching for one myself today i found this sick one :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM&NR=1
(the DIY pen is not the sick part, but it looks fairly good)
I myself just ordered a kensington virtuoso stylus, and will see how it reacts when it gets here.
Greenthy said:
Searching for one myself today i found this sick one :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM&NR=1
(the DIY pen is not the sick part, but it looks fairly good)
I myself just ordered a kensington virtuoso stylus, and will see how it reacts when it gets here.
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I like the DIY pen. I'm gonna start cutting up some old antistatic bags and see how it works. I have a couple pens, and neither can do dots. It will draw a line, but just pressing to the screen without moving doesn't draw a dot. As soon as it stops moving, it stops inputting. Horrible for Angry Birds, because it lets the bird go as soon as you pull back the sling and start aiming.
I think the A43 digitizer is plastic (which is bad, from the point of view of recognition--glass produces better accuracy), and what's worse, a softer plastic than any of the PalmOS devices I've used. I tried my Clie stylus, and it scratched the screen. I searched for a soft stylus among all the stylus-based devices we have at home, and finally I started using the spare stylus from my wife's HTC TouchPro2. The tip is nice and pointy, but also soft enough not to scratch the screen (or at least not much?). You can probably buy OEM ones somewhere online.
I wish I had a good way of attaching it to the device. Currently, I use the leather sleeve case, and I just tuck the stylus in--it's thin enough that it fits.
arpruss said:
I think the A43 digitizer is plastic (which is bad, from the point of view of recognition--glass produces better accuracy), and what's worse, a softer plastic than any of the PalmOS devices I've used. I tried my Clie stylus, and it scratched the screen. I searched for a soft stylus among all the stylus-based devices we have at home, and finally I started using the spare stylus from my wife's HTC TouchPro2. The tip is nice and pointy, but also soft enough not to scratch the screen (or at least not much?). You can probably buy OEM ones somewhere online.
I wish I had a good way of attaching it to the device. Currently, I use the leather sleeve case, and I just tuck the stylus in--it's thin enough that it fits.
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Can't say for the A43, but the A101 has a ton of space inside to make a stylus hole.

Adonit Jot Pro Stylus compatibility with Samsung GT 7.7.

I have been thinking of ordering an Adonit Jot Pro stylus for the Samsung 7.7. I asked the vendor in ebay about it's compatibility with the samsung 7.7 and I was informed it is not compatible.
Has anyone ordered the Jot pro? If so, It'll be really good if someone could write a review on the performance of jot pro on the 7.7. Thanks.
From Adonit webiste:
Compatible with all capacitive touch screens: iPads, iPhones, MacBook Trackpads, Magic Trackpads, HTC, Samsung, Nokia, Motorola, Blackberry.
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This answers your question. So this will even work with any capacitive-screen phone.
http://youtu.be/E-untpEM9mo
I read a blog review of this stylus and they mentioned that it didn't work well with certain screen protectors.
I'm going to order one later I think, thanks for the heads up
Edit - maybe not, just read some Amazon reviews...
They look silly with the suck cup like thing on the tip we need ics to hopefully be able to use a regular pen like stylus
Using Galaxy Tab 7.7 P6800
just bought a jot today
it is not working well with my 7.7
i don't think it's the matter of the screen protector
have to tap real hard for one successful response, which makes annoying tapping sound
i have dagi P507 and P301, both work quite well instead
I got my jot pro today. It took 13 days to reach me. Quite a long wait. But it was worth it. The moment I received it, I tried it with Supernote. It works flawlessly. Only regret is the lack of palm detection.
I also tried it with TabNotes pro. Works even better. There was no noticeable lag in the input, and I'd rate the precision of this stylus at 8/10, which I'd say is pretty impressive.
For everyone's info I've installed touch screen tune. Haven't tried without it. Will uninstall touch screen tune and post the difference.
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I guess the digitizer would make the tablet thicker but nothing betters a WACOM -- it just works. No clicking, is pressure sensitive, has eraser function and on and on.
i got my jot pro a few days ago and had a blast with it. and while it's not pin-point accurate, it's miles better than any 'usual' stylus I've tried. works great with the super note app and sketchbook pro.
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any more reviews for this ? very interested in it but im afraid it dont work as well.
without a screen protector and just bare glass, I recommend this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LG7W36/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A30XRGG45X0IFD
Given the screens highly sensitive nature I don't think you have to worry about scratching it with the metal ring, since you won't have to press that hard. It also has a smaller tip that provides greater accuracy even though this device can recognize capacitive objects as small as ~2.5mm^2 (I've tested it).
The mesh allows it to glide without any real issue, plus adds a great deal of durability since it won't wear out like foam or rubber tipped ones.

My perspective on stylus types and comparisons

I got my 12.2 yesterday and also the Bamboo UK2, and the S-pen replacement (said official Samsung, but the box was trashed and open when I got it). All from Amazon.
I've tried all three and they all seem to work pretty well. What I did was various drawing and scribbling with each, followed by drawing some technical shapes repeatedly and trying to connect and match lines. Also understand I have a cheap plastic screen cover on the 12.2, I'll have to see what I think when I get my glass cover.
The included stylus is nice and I like the tip on it the best, but its way too light. This internal stylus the hovering dot is the most on target (from viewing with my eyes) with where the mark will be on the tablet. It matches very well also if I don't look at the dot and just act like the tablet is paper. Drawing hexes was great, but the lines are very heavy, not much pressure difference here. I would choose this one first, except its too flimsy.
Bamboo feel UK2. Nice weighting to this pen, but I don't like the rough plastic surface, it feels like I'm holding raw wood (yuck), why didn't they make it smooth? The hovering dot seems off with where the tip is, a pixel or two off it seems like, and it changes with the angle I'm holding the pen. I don't like that. However if I don't pay attention to that, and just draw like the tablet is paper, the marks come out right where I want them to and expect them to. That is good. This pen has the best pressure sensitivity, it is easy to make thin or thick lines. This is the one I'm choosing to do most work with right now.
Samsung replacement S-pen with eraser. Too light. This pen has a similar offset as the UK2, but its different somehow, the offset is different between the dot and the pen in a different way. This pen also does work well if I forget about the hovering dot and just draw. I would choose this pen third of the three, but I'm going to try the mod/trick putting it into a G2 and see how that works out.
So overall I don't really like any of these pens, but the UK2 feel works out the best for me I think in terms of overall functionality. The cheap jerks only send two replacement tips with it (one hard, one soft). All the rest had at least 4 if not more replacement tips.

note pro accessories bargains

After a long wait till the prices came down I have upgraded to a note pro from a 10.1 2012 edition. I love it so far. I have been using Taobao for a while to buy various accessories Using Yoybuy as a shipping agent. I got my genuine samsung keyboard £30 it is the real thing. The only difference is the box and instructions is in Chinese. I started to look at spens. I found wacom bamboo stylus feel Selling for $1.64 I do have one as I am a designer and I have ordered a couple. It is worth a look for cases etc. Google translate comes in handy.
$1.64 for the stylus sounds wrong. Maybe it's a knockoff?
treetopsranch said:
$1.64 for the stylus sounds wrong. Maybe it's a knockoff?
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yes it does seem like an amazing price. I bought a couple so will keep you posted. I can always turn them into spen holders! Though I did get a bargain atomgsm.Co.uk are selling off all the samsung moschino and kirkwood offical note pro flip covers for only £11.69 I do like the black kirkwood one.
Link for kirkwood/moschino cases it is a UK company they are selling their note 3 cases and s5 cases cheap too.
https://www.atomgsm.co.uk/samsung-flip-case-ef-ep900b-by-kirkwood-for-galaxy-note-tab-12-2-black-white-55341?keyword=galaxy%20note/tab%2012.2
The Wacom technology is patented, so it's no doubt a fake.
Still, if it works, it's probably still cheaper to just toss it in the bin when it breaks after a month or two and get a new one, you could do about 40 months for the price of the original.
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ShadowLea said:
The Wacom technology is patented, so it's no doubt a fake.
Still, if it works, it's probably still cheaper to just toss it in the bin when it breaks after a month or two and get a new one, you could do about 40 months for the price of the original.
Sent From My Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N9005 Using Tapatalk
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There are a lot of fakes on the site mainly flip covers. But you can tell as the inner lining is always grey no matter what colour. A lot of generic spens definitely fake. Though there are originals as well.
The cheapest price I could get for an original samsung keyboard case here in the uk is $122. But got an original one from there for less than half the price Including shipping. I also got an original samsung bluetooth spen the one you can receive calls from For $24. It came out with the original note 10.1 2012. The price never really came down Works a treat with the note pro. Plus it comes with the full range of spen nibs from soft rubber to hard plastic. Which I got with my old note 10.1 2012 but sadly with my note pro just standard tips. If you are an artist or a designer the different nibs as well as calibration of the pen make a difference that's why I have a few pens.
But you are probably right about the wacom pen I am not holding my breath but it was worth the gamble.
tabascouk said:
If you are an artist or a designer the different nibs as well as calibration of the pen make a difference that's why I have a few pens.
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Both, which is why I have 3 Bamboo Feels and 3 Spens for the same reason.
But I'm still miffed that my Intuos pen won't work on it. Different tech, I know; a girl can dream, right?
I've got a ton of stuff from china as well, some of it original, but for the serious accessories I prefer something with a warranty and quality certifications. The EU has a much, much higher legal quality demand than the US, let alone Asia. (You can notice the difference in the build quality of phones and tablets.)
Still, somtimes the low price is worth the shorter lifespan.
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Both, which is why I have 3 Bamboo Feels and 3 Spens for the same reason.
But I'm still miffed that my Intuos pen won't work on it. Different tech, I know; a girl can dream, right?
I've got a ton of stuff from china as well, some of it original, but for the serious accessories I prefer something with a warranty and quality certifications. The EU has a much, much higher legal quality demand than the US, let alone Asia. (You can notice the difference in the build quality of phones and tablets.)
Still, somtimes the low price is worth the shorter lifespan.
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I thought intuos pen would work too but no joy either. Any other pens you could recommend? I have spen with eraser, bamboo feel, bt spen, note 3 pen 10.1 2011. Is it worth getting the spen holder or going for another bamboo feel? A girl can't have too many pens. The spen I got with my note pro the calibration was completely off the nibb sticks.......Hopefully a new nibb will sort it.
Any tips on drawing on the note or apps would be appreciated as there is always something new to discover.
tabascouk said:
I thought intuos pen would work too but no joy either. Any other pens you could recommend? I have spen with eraser, bamboo feel, bt spen, note 3 pen 10.1 2011. Is it worth getting the spen holder or going for another bamboo feel? A girl can't have too many pens. The spen I got with my note pro the calibration was completely off the nibb sticks.......Hopefully a new nibb will sort it.
Any tips on drawing on the note or apps would be appreciated as there is always something new to discover.
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What I did do was place the second rubber grip I got with the Intuos pen over the Bamboo feel. Bit of a tight fit, but now I've got a Bamboo pen with a very comfortable grip! (It doesn't look very pretty, but oh well.)
Haven't found a solution for the button yet, but it does make holding it whilst drawing much easier.
Haha, yea, I had to recalibrate all but one of the Bamboo pens. Nearly lost the button for the original Spen to the carpet in the process!
I've never tried the Spen holder, truth be told.
Here's a couple of apps to give a try :
Artflow: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bytestorm.artflow
Infinite Painter: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brakefield.painter
Can't forget our best friend's baby brother: Photoshop Touch! Tablet: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.adobe.pstouch Phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.adobe.pstouchphone (I sideloaded the tablet variant onto my Note 3 because I prefer landscape for Photoshop.)
For writing, lettering and sketching in one I love Papyrus. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steadfastinnovation.android.projectpapyrus It has an option to write with the pen and erase with your finger for Spen devices.
INKredile is a Vector writing/sketching app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.viettran.INKredible&hl=en I use this for creating handwriting fonts, exporting it as a transparent png, loading it in Illustrator, image trace > 254 threshold + Ignore Whites > Expand > tweak > Place in Fontlab
And then there's Snapseed. Not quite a 'specially made for the Spen' app, but the Spen makes it that much more accurate! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.niksoftware.snapseed&hl=en (Made by NIK Software, the company behind NIKefex, who were bought by Google).
ShadowLea said:
What I did do was place the second rubber grip I got with the Intuos pen over the Bamboo feel. Bit of a tight fit, but now I've got a Bamboo pen with a very comfortable grip! (It doesn't look very pretty, but oh well.)
Haven't found a solution for the button yet, but it does make holding it whilst drawing much easier.
Haha, yea, I had to recalibrate all but one of the Bamboo pens. Nearly lost the button for the original Spen to the carpet in the process!
I've never tried the Spen holder, truth be told.
Here's a couple of apps to give a try :
Artflow: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bytestorm.artflow
Infinite Painter: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brakefield.painter
Can't forget our best friend's baby brother: Photoshop Touch! Tablet: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.adobe.pstouch Phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.adobe.pstouchphone (I sideloaded the tablet variant onto my Note 3 because I prefer landscape for Photoshop.)
For writing, lettering and sketching in one I love Papyrus. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steadfastinnovation.android.projectpapyrus It has an option to write with the pen and erase with your finger for Spen devices.
INKredile is a Vector writing/sketching app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.viettran.INKredible&hl=en I use this for creating handwriting fonts, exporting it as a transparent png, loading it in Illustrator, image trace > 254 threshold + Ignore Whites > Expand > tweak > Place in Fontlab
And then there's Snapseed. Not quite a 'specially made for the Spen' app, but the Spen makes it that much more accurate! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.niksoftware.snapseed&hl=en (Made by NIK Software, the company behind NIKefex, who were bought by Google).
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Thank you so much for your help I have got most of the programmes but inkcredible was just what I was after. I will try the intros rubber grip thanks for the tip I am after function rather than pretty. I do love the extra screen on this tablet. I love the note series.
Have you tried watercolour pencil I use it from time to time it gives you some really lovely drawing water blending effects.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.raysoft.watercolorpencillite
thanks again for all your help.
tabascouk said:
Thank you so much for your help I have got most of the programmes but inkcredible was just what I was after. I will try the intros rubber grip thanks for the tip I am after function rather than pretty. I do love the extra screen on this tablet. I love the note series.
Have you tried watercolour pencil I use it from time to time it gives you some really lovely drawing water blending effects.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.raysoft.watercolorpencillite
thanks again for all your help.
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Yea, Inkredible is a genius litle app. If you export as PDF, it exports as a Vector PDF. Real timesaver!
The only thing I miss is all my brushes in Photoshop.
Oh, fun! Didn't have that one yet! :good:
Have you tried Snapseed since it updated to version 2.0? That app is the main reason I'm buying this tablet and getting rid of my new laptop.
https://youtu.be/IyhoXMshX7Q
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Have you tried Snapseed since it updated to version 2.0? That app is the main reason I'm buying this tablet and getting rid of my new laptop.
https://youtu.be/IyhoXMshX7Q
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Yea, it's good. Still doesn't reach the level of its parent ColorEFEX (Which requires a full version of PHotoshop CS4 or higher), but it's a good dressed-down version.

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