Dear all,
Can anyone tell me if they are able to use Google Maps, especially for Navigation with Satellite Imagery turned on?
I have a terrible issue whereby after about two or three minutes of driving, first, my location freezes on the map (though notable is that the voice commands stay current and correct based on actual location). Then, the screen starts freezing, jumping, jerking, and generally MASSIVELY GLITCHING and flashing in a completely unviewable state. The voice commands however stay correct. It's just as if the device cannot handle 3D rendering of the imagery at all.
Now here's my big issue...
I am now onto my THIRD Galaxy S3, and this issue is reproduce-able 100% of the time, and over 100% of the devices. That is, it does it every time, and it does it on any and every Galaxy S3 I try to use for Google Navigation. And my devices have deliberately been a mix of some White, some Blue, some from one supplier, some from another.
So what I am asking, is are there any users out there that CAN actually use Google Maps Navigation fine on their Galaxy S3...
By that, I mean for a proper period of time, over a proper journey, deviating away from the set route, and with Satellite Imagery layer turned on. EVERY time I do this, on THREE separate devices, the display goes haywire. So I am trying to establish WHERE the fault is... is it phone software... is it phone hardware (I prey not), or is it a Google Maps issue (you'd think they have noticed by now if it doesn't work with the SGS3 though...)
The only saving grace is that it points to a Maps issue, as when using my NatWest Banking App, to locate ATM machines, when dragging the map about, it freezes terrible, then eventually crashes (just as Google Maps natively does for me a lot), and then eventually FC's... and the underlying mapping it uses is, yes, Google Maps.
So I'm after any feedback at all here.
But worried that it's 100% of the time for me, and on no less than THREE Galaxy S3's I've had so far, mix of white and blue, and mix of suppliers and locations...
Any comments please...?
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EDIT - just to add device info:
Samsung Galaxy S3, UK Unbranded, both blue and white.
Previous Firmware (with the same issue) was: XXLE8. CURRENT FW: XXLF2
Similar behaviour to what I see on the galaxy note after the so called ics update. Everything was fine on GB. So could be an issue with ICS. Because of that, plus a few other critical issues, I'm now an ex Samsung owner.
I have the same issue.
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Try an older version because I'm using v6.1.1 and no problems so far.
I have experienced crazy flashing and also a black screen while using Google Maps Navigation. It occurred about half way through a 30 min journey. I've seen it happen on both my girlfriends S3 and my own. Also, satellite layer was off.
Could be a bug caused by Samsung's graphics drivers? I hope its fixed soon. I'm currently on IMM76D.I9300XXALE8. There has been no OTA update for me yet and I am in Australia.
Well, that's the end of the S3 for me. The GPS using Google maps + Navigation was (is) a major feature for me. It worked so well on the SGN under Gingerbread and totally corked when I upgraded to ICS. Now I see the S3 ships with ICS and you guys have exactly the same issues.
I spoke to my retailer and went into great depth over what went wrong post ICS and they have noted EVERYTHING and has given me a full refund for the phone. This was my fourth device, Samsung cant/wont get it right and I want no more. I have no idea what my choices are for now, I'm using an old motorola clamshell whilst I ponder. I would recommend anyone having issues with the S3 or Note, just send it back to your retailer for a refund. The product is flawed and little will be done until Samsung see devices returned by the lorry load.
I have a white s3 (UK sim free) with lf2 and 6.8.1 Google maps. I've been using Google maps navigation for 2 weeks as my work pda (with built in tomtom) has been returned.
I've used it all day, 5 days a week, making at least 6 journeys per day with no issues.
I tried it today with satellite view and that too works with no issues. Worked ok with shipped firmware too. Le8 I think it was.
I have had the map jump around/flicker before when turning on a layer but exiting and reopening maps sorted that.
Hope this helps
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skibadee said:
...........I have had the map jump around/flicker before when turning on a layer but exiting and reopening maps sorted that.
Hope this helps
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That was not my experience under GB. Under ICS My experience had nothing to do with layers, and reopening maps is not an option when driving, also, that is not how the software should be behaving. So you too have a faulty unit.
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That was not my experience under GB. Under ICS My experience had nothing to do with layers, and reopening maps is not an option when driving, also, that is not how the software should be behaving. So you too have a faulty unit.
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I have had similar random bugs on GB and froyo (since my sgs 1) and to say the 1 out of 50 times I use maps it may crash - means my s3 is faulty?
I don't think so
You do realise navigation is still in beta?
Last week Google introduced a bug which killed latitude, few days later another update fixed it.
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I have had similar random bugs on GB and froyo (since my sgs 1) and to say the 1 out of 50 times I use maps it may crash - means my s3 is faulty?
I don't think so
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We both have different experiences. See how you get on with the S3. Personally, I paid top whack for a flagship product and it doesn't work as it should. It also has the faulty eMMC chip. Under GB it never crashed once, under ICS, its so unstable as to not be reliable and not performing as could reasonably be expected. As I say, see how your S3 goes. I'm certain that not all units will display the same characteristics, but its clear some are. ;-)
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We both have different experiences. See how you get on with the S3. Personally, I paid top whack for a flagship product and it doesn't work as it should. It also has the faulty eMMC chip. Under GB it never crashed once, under ICS, its so unstable as to not be reliable and not performing as could reasonably be expected. As I say, see how your S3 goes. I'm certain that not all units will display the same characteristics, but its clear some are. ;-)
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Thanks, wasn't aware the eMMC chip issue was present in the s3, I'm sure I ran chainfires app to check when I first got it.
I shall bear that in mind when flashing, seeing as my s2 died a horrible death because of it
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Firstly, a BIG thank you to ALL who have contributed to this thread.
Could I ask that those with issues though, tick the poll to say so, as the comments in the thread indicate lots are seeing this issue, but the poll indicates most are having no issue.
Just to add to my own original post though, to say that today, on two separate journeys, Google Maps Navigation worked FINE for me, but with the SATELLITE LAYER TURNED OFF.
That is, standard mapping, and I had no screen issues.
So this only seems to happen when Satellite Imagery Layer is turned ON. In which case it does this 100% of the time for me, across 100% of three different S3's so far, and let me be clear, is so bad, the application is 100% unusable (unless you navigate by voice prompt) as the screen is either entirely frozen, or glitching permanently and incessantly, the whole time.
So my next question though is this... if this IS only a Google Maps Software issue, how exactly do we reach out to Google, to tell them that GMaps is not working, with the latest flagship Android Device...?
Also, as best I recall, I never had this issue with GMaps on my SGS2's both running ICS. But it might have been an earlier GMaps version.
Now, how would I find an earlier GMaps version, to see if that works...?
(Finally, as an aside, why does the SGS2 running ICS, score higher/better scores for 3D graphics, than the SGS3 does, using either Quadrant, CF Bench, or AnTuTu... surely the SGS3 should have BETTER 3D hardware...?)
I tried v6.1.1 and working so far.
http://multiupload.biz/qpmbog3jzau0/Maps_6.1.1_MultiUpload.biz.apk.html
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................So my next question though is this... if this IS only a Google Maps Software issue, how exactly do we reach out to Google, to tell them that GMaps is not working, with the latest flagship Android Device...?
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I doubt it is just confined to GMaps as other issues crop up, not just with me, but other guys on this thread and elsewhere. How to reach out: Android = Google = Gmaps. Samsung are in bed with Google. Throw the phone back to Samsung and use the forums, eventually they will roll over and tell Google to stop snoring, get up and do something. Oh I wish.
Hi,
I'm having similar issues but I get the screen locking on both Google Maps and also Sygic Maps.
Anyone else having this issue with more than one GPS SAT NAV software ?
ash99 said:
Hi,
I'm having similar issues but I get the screen locking on both Google Maps and also Sygic Maps.
Anyone else having this issue with more than one GPS SAT NAV software ?
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It shouldn't do that. Faulty unit, send it back.
I dont use the Satellite version of Navigation very often, but when you select walking directions it defaults to the satellite map. I was out cycling a couple of weeks ago and selected the walking directions, the satellite map got stuck and glitched exactly as per your description.
The reason your poll is soo heavily weighted as a no is it dosnt mention this issue is specific to using the satellite map.
Just a brief note to say that I too tested an OLDER version, 6.1.1 today, and found that it worked fine on the three journeys I tested it on, with Satellite Imagery turned ON.
So well done to that man - and whilst it still could be a combined Google/Samsung to blame flaw, it does give hope that it is software only issue, that can be fixed with a new version of Google Maps.
As for the point about the poll appearing flawed as it does not specifically state "if Satellite imagery is turned ON", then very good point - my bad!
Contacting Google about this issue:
I've reached out to Google in the only way I can think of...
The following Support Forum thread:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/mobile/maps-earth-latitude/IlJDfMkgl3U
Hope it's ok to share it here. Mods, if not, please delete the post, not my account *lol*
If anyone else is seeing this issue, can you post there too?
That's not taking anything away from this forum, or attempting to gain anything from this - it's just that this is the ONLY way to let Google know about issues.
So please post there, if this is ok with the Mods here.
Shadamehr said:
I've reached out to Google in the only way I can think of...
The following Support Forum thread:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/mobile/maps-earth-latitude/IlJDfMkgl3U
Hope it's ok to share it here. Mods, if not, please delete the post, not my account *lol*
If anyone else is seeing this issue, can you post there too?
That's not taking anything away from this forum, or attempting to gain anything from this - it's just that this is the ONLY way to let Google know about issues.
So please post there, if this is ok with the Mods here.
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That is a very good post, and thanks for making the effort. I hope the Mods do not delete it. I'm sure they wont. We all have to make whatever contribution we can to get the product right. In essence, both the SGS3 and SGN have a uniqueness that is not repeated by any other manufacturer yet. I have tried to seek alternatives that satisfy my needs in the way the two Samsung products can potentially do, but there are no realistic options. However, in their current state, I'm keeping my wallet firmly closed until Samsung/Google get it sorted.
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hey everyone, i've had my Captivate since it was released last year, but i really want to upgrade it. i'm a little underwhelmed by the specs of the Galaxy Nexus when compared to the SGSII (which is what i was waiting to compare before i just purchased it).
anyways, are there any nagging issues that i should know about before upgrading (like the GPS issue with the Cappy, even though mine always worked perfectly)?
thanks.
Speaking for myself, this has been an absolutely solid device from the moment I got it. Couldn't be happier...
Not a single issue I can think of.
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no major issues yet but the only thing that people have complained about is some screen issues. There have been lines that seemed to be burned into the screen when you view dark images. I have one but i rarely notice it so I'm not concerned and its not a big deal for me. otherwise, i think thats pretty much it. Any other issue that you have can be checked while at the store so you can exchange it while you are there.
No issues here, upgrading also from a week 1 captivate.
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Nope. I haven't even found any minor issues. Rock solid, all the way around.
Only problem I've had is the AP Mobile widget eating up my data even after I turned it off and set the refresh settings to none. Ended up having to root/freeze it just to stop. Samsung and AT&T were of no help. Reading a forum or two here and there shows I'm not alone - but I don't think it is extremely widespread.
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Only problem I've had is the AP Mobile widget eating up my data even after I turned it off and set the refresh settings to none. Ended up having to root/freeze it just to stop. Samsung and AT&T were of no help. Reading a forum or two here and there shows I'm not alone - but I don't think it is extremely widespread.
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I've found the AP Mobile application to be terrible on every device I've used.
Based on my recent experience, I'd have no problem believing that.
I never consider AT&T bloatware to be a "major issue" - even though it's a major deficiency in the out-of-the-box experience, as long as it's fixable, it's not major to me.
So far so good...had good battery out of box for me....running un-named...no complaints my self
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I have no major issues with mine. I'm rooted and running cognition now and it's a solid as when it was stock. This is my third android phone and the first keeper for me having been unhappy with earlier products running android.
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I never consider AT&T bloatware to be a "major issue" - even though it's a major deficiency in the out-of-the-box experience, as long as it's fixable, it's not major to me.
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If it ends up sending someone over a data limit and costing money, I'd say its a pretty big deal. At least something to keep an eye on.
As a launch-day Captivate user myself, believe me the SGSII is a night and day difference. Especially in the speed and battery departments. Even running stock is a much smoother experience than many of the custom ROMs I had flashed on my Cap.
The build quality seems to be very good, even for an initial run.
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No issues here, upgrading also from a week 1 captivate.
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Same here, this thing is great. Fast, smooth and great battery. I've ran Cognition and now UnNamed, both are smooth.
I never had any problems with my Captivate other than battery. Unlocked it for my wife to use on T-Mobile and she is getting 24-30 hours on a charge w/3-4hrs display time. The only difference in the set up is the amount of emails and texts when I used it was more than she uses it.
By and large I have had few problems. This is the phone that the Captivate should have been (good GPS and compass and LED flash and front facing camera).
Once I had a problem with GPS acquiring a lock, even with very adequate SNRs as shown by GPS Test (Chartcoss), but it immediately reverted back to great after a reboot.
Occasionally the Facebook app will lag is some aspects, but I can't tell if it is the app or the network.
To OP,
Yes, there are some issues that I have with this phone. Some big, some small but all in all - IMHO not deal breakers...
I'm a 3+ yrs iphone 3G user sitting on the fence between the iphone 4S (pre-release) and SG2. When AT&T announced official release of the SG2 on Oct 2., I made a beeline to two local AT&T stores and both sold out, but they did have the unit on display and when I comared the iphone 4 (non S) vs. the SG2, I instantly fell in love with the Lighter Weight, Larger screen and super thin size of the SG2 over the iphone 4 (non S)...
The problem at hand to answer your question is here:
1. No FM radio - Originally advsertised as an available feature on AT&T website but has been removed. Available on internation i1900 but not on AT&T SGH-I777
2. Samsung DIVE - Samsung's version of lost/stolen phone support *FREE* to all Samsung mobile device yet *CRIPPLED* by AT&T...
3. No visual Voicemail - But then again this is an Android issue not Captivate to SG2 (remember I'm coming off an iphone 3G)
4. NFC missing - Confirmed by AT&T that it was disabled but *supposedly* to return at a later date via firmware update...??? Will update *NERF* the SG2 to comply with APPLE's suit about copyright infringment (this is mere SPECULATION from my part ONLY!!!!)
Makes me MAD that AT&T strips out useful and FREE tools and installs crappy BLOATWARE like AT&T NAVIGATE that I cannot remove wthout ROOTING the phone... Sorry not ready to that just yet but the promise of FREE tethering has me thinking about it...
Samsung has already had to *MOD* some Tablets & phones(?) overseas because one foreign court ruled against Samsung claiming that their OS too closely resembles the IOS and a firmware MOD fixed the SCROLLING method to further distinguish Touchwiz from IOS... Could Samsung/AT&T firmware update that includes NFC then also NERF the UI (if they lose in U.S. Court Case???)
Sorry for rambling on but I think I've answered your questions about my pet peeves with the unit so far I'm really REALLY like the SG2 and after 2 weeks I do NOT have buyers remorse nor do I feel an attraction to the iphone 4S...
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hey everyone, i've had my Captivate since it was released last year, but i really want to upgrade it. i'm a little underwhelmed by the specs of the Galaxy Nexus when compared to the SGSII (which is what i was waiting to compare before i just purchased it).
anyways, are there any nagging issues that i should know about before upgrading (like the GPS issue with the Cappy, even though mine always worked perfectly)?
thanks.
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To OP,
Yes, there are some issues that I have with this phone. Some big, some small but all in all - IMHO not deal breakers...
I'm a 3+ yrs iphone 3G user sitting on the fence between the iphone 4S (pre-release) and SG2. When AT&T announced official release of the SG2 on Oct 2., I made a beeline to two local AT&T stores and both sold out, but they did have the unit on display and when I comared the iphone 4 (non S) vs. the SG2, I instantly fell in love with the Lighter Weight, Larger screen and super thin size of the SG2 over the iphone 4 (non S)...
The problem at hand to answer your question is here:
1. No FM radio - Originally advsertised as an available feature on AT&T website but has been removed. Available on internation i1900 but not on AT&T SGH-I777
2. Samsung DIVE - Samsung's version of lost/stolen phone support *FREE* to all Samsung mobile device yet *CRIPPLED* by AT&T...
3. No visual Voicemail - But then again this is an Android issue not Captivate to SG2 (remember I'm coming off an iphone 3G)
4. NFC missing - Confirmed by AT&T that it was disabled but *supposedly* to return at a later date via firmware update...??? Will update *NERF* the SG2 to comply with APPLE's suit about copyright infringment (this is mere SPECULATION from my part ONLY!!!!)
Makes me MAD that AT&T strips out useful and FREE tools and installs crappy BLOATWARE like AT&T NAVIGATE that I cannot remove wthout ROOTING the phone... Sorry not ready to that just yet but the promise of FREE tethering has me thinking about it...
Samsung has already had to *MOD* some Tablets & phones(?) overseas because one foreign court ruled against Samsung claiming that their OS too closely resembles the IOS and a firmware MOD fixed the SCROLLING method to further distinguish Touchwiz from IOS... Could Samsung/AT&T firmware update that includes NFC then also NERF the UI (if they lose in U.S. Court Case???)
Sorry for rambling on but I think I've answered your questions about my pet peeves with the unit so far I'm really REALLY like the SG2 and after 2 weeks I do NOT have buyers remorse nor do I feel an attraction to the iphone 4S...
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thanks for your opinion, but i was merely asking about actual hardware/software problems, not personal opinions about the lack of included apps/features.
I think Google Voice is a million (yes literally a million) times better than the visual voicemail on the iPhone.
I did think of one issue I have had. Its minor, but was really frustrating. The stock android keyboard preinstalled seems to be off. The biggest time for me was that I would try for a c and get a space. I am not a fan of the Samsung keyboard, but Gingerbread Keyboard from the market seemed to fix it.
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Hardware/Software problems - REDUX
1. When locked with Passcode or Pattern swipe and then hitting the power button to start the phone, 7 times out of 10 you get the pattern screen, the other 3 times the unit BYPASS the security all together and you can get right in
2. Voice recognition by Voice Action or VLingo, sometimes won't pick up your voice, intermittently strays off of Listen mode (Green) and sits there numbly until you exit restart the VOX
3. Slight BLUISH tint when viewing the SUPER AMOLED screen, when viewing directly on the screen this is a non issue.
4. GPS unit not quite as accurate as my old iphone. Driving around I find the ICON moving OFF road and plowing through houses/buildings on map... This is despite the GPS's S/N ratio is over 85db and locked onto multiple satelites...
IMHO - these issues are NON dealbreakers for me and the more glaring offenders are the missing FM radio and NFC but to each his own...
Good luck...!
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thanks for your opinion, but i was merely asking about actual hardware/software problems, not personal opinions about the lack of included apps/features.
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Agreed that Google Voice is awesome and in many ways superior to Visual Voicemail, however, why couldn't Google Voice have been built in and tied directly to the phone? Why do CALLS have to be first forwarded behind the scenes to Google Voice in order to access Google Voice's Visual Voicemail...?
That's my only gripe with it, I'm using Google Voice on the phone, but I'm peeved that an extra step was needed... IMHO, but judging from some of the other threads I've been reading, I'm not exactly alone on this thought...
mmarquis said:
By and large I have had few problems. This is the phone that the Captivate should have been (good GPS and compass and LED flash and front facing camera).
Once I had a problem with GPS acquiring a lock, even with very adequate SNRs as shown by GPS Test (Chartcoss), but it immediately reverted back to great after a reboot.
Occasionally the Facebook app will lag is some aspects, but I can't tell if it is the app or the network.
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1. When locked with Passcode or Pattern swipe and then hitting the power button to start the phone, 7 times out of 10 you get the pattern screen, the other 3 times the unit BYPASS the security all together and you can get right in
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The issue here was with stock settings. If you set a pattern lock, then lock the phone. When you wake the phone, let the screen go back to black, then hit the power button. 100% of the time, if you do it that way (let the screen go off then press power again) you get the standard swipe to unlock and bypass the lock pattern.
There is an easy fix. In the lock screen settings set the timeout to immediate (default is 5 minutes) and it will 100% fix the issue.
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I have problems to use the compass in google skymap and street view. It is completely crazy.... although, it seems to be working well at compass apk for example. Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Ronan
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I have this issue too. The compass sensor is fine but its the other sensors that are screwy in my opinion. I've tried recalibrating with no success.
if you place your phone horizontally and just change the azimuth error, Google Maps appears to work with a heading bias. If you move in the others directions, it becomes totally crazy!
At GPS status, with no GPS tracking, the phone's attitude is correctly predicted by compass and accelerometer, so, it is a problem with the way google apps obtain the cell phone body attitude... Let's hope that Motorola fix the API or google adapt their apps to avoid it.
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Ronan
my phone is the same.
google map is a little off, but any (i tried 3) compass app is completely out of whack and inaccurate.
what? i need to calculate the feng shui of my new apartment!
although using it as GPS works fine though...
this is a known issue - sky map has been open sourced - I hope google finds it in their corporate heart to squish the bug
The latest Verizon update completely fixes this issue.
I'm on 6.12.173, and I still have the issue...
I was on .173 and still had the problem with apps that want to use the compass including some GPS apps, as well as Sky Map. Called Verizon, convinced them to send a new phone, now running identical software and everything is fine. I am rooted, but not a single problem in any app with compass.
This is a problem on countless phones regardless of manufacturer. Getting them to replace your RAZR won't fix it.
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This is a problem on countless phones regardless of manufacturer. Getting them to replace your RAZR won't fix it.
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Well I am sorry but you are incorrect. My replacement Razr works just fine utilizing the compass. I have tested it on a Compass App, Google Sky, GPS Test App, GPS Status App, as well as Gogle Maps and Star Chart where none of these worked previously. In addition, my grandson as a non rooted Razr, and his compass has worked from day one out of the box.
Now I agree, it is just on some devices, but just let them know, insist on a replacement and hopefully the replacement will not the the problem.
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Well I am sorry but you are incorrect. My replacement Razr works just fine utilizing the compass. I have tested it on a Compass App, Google Sky, GPS Test App, GPS Status App, as well as Gogle Maps and Star Chart where none of these worked previously. In addition, my grandson as a non rooted Razr, and his compass has worked from day one out of the box.
Now I agree, it is just on some devices, but just let them know, insist on a replacement and hopefully the replacement will not the the problem.
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i'll have to try that... though I don't know if it will have to go through Verizon Corporate or if a local store can handle it.
But in any case, the compass app I have doesn't deviate from North, and I'm unrooted on the OTA (not copied online) 6.12.173.
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i'll have to try that... though I don't know if it will have to go through Verizon Corporate or if a local store can handle it.
But in any case, the compass app I have doesn't deviate from North, and I'm unrooted on the OTA (not copied online) 6.12.173.
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I had to go through Verizon to get the exchange. Had it to me the next day and love it as that was my only glitch.
This happened on my old phone as well as my razr. It's annoying, but easy to fix. Just waving the phone around in a sort of horizontal figure eight gets the magnetometer re-calibrated quickly. I think the GPS Status app has or at least had a message that would pop up and tell you when you need to recalibrate the compass and gave the instructions. My old phone needed this almost every time I used the compass. I have gotten some funny looks from people when I wave my phone around, but it works.
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Hi.
I have the same problem with the compass, but I noticed that this is not a hardware problem. GMaps and sky maps take position relative to north from a bad sensor. When you lean out your phone to the front and rear, GMaps think that is spinning. The phone in vertical position - west, horizontal - east, so simply with just a slight correction in the code your applications will work properly.
Ok, if anybody have this problem - upgrade to at least 2.3.6.
Am I the only person that's noticed the cover up (or at best complete overlooking) of the 920 MANY issues?
Let me say, I own(d) a 920 and I loved it so much I looked past all its flaws, and I dealt with a lot. Previous owner factory reset it right in front of me and we know what that means. I spent the next 12 ****ing hours unbricking the thing just so I could use it! Now, after owning the 920 a freakin week, it stops reading my SIM card suddenly so now I'm back with android.
I just notice that no tech site has EVER run any articles about the litany of major issues with this phone. Hell even in the forums nobody seems to have put it together! Am I the only one who sees it??
Bricking on factory reset
Battery life issues
Black screen on calls
Hardware buttons randomly not working, requires soft reset
Phone suddenly stops reading SIM cards
I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the one I dealt with. Am I alone?
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I've been using the 920 for 2.5 months now and I have none of your issues. I had the restart bug but it got fixed with portico update. also there is some dust under the FFC but i don't care because it is not on the lense and it don't use it anyway.
i know about black screen and factory reset bug but i read for the 1st time that there should be major problems with the SIM card or the hardware buttons.
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Am I the only person that's noticed the cover up (or at best complete overlooking) of the 920 MANY issues?
Let me say, I own(d) a 920 and I loved it so much I looked past all its flaws, and I dealt with a lot. Previous owner factory reset it right in front of me and we know what that means. I spent the next 12 ****ing hours unbricking the thing just so I could use it! Now, after owning the 920 a freakin week, it stops reading my SIM card suddenly so now I'm back with android.
I just notice that no tech site has EVER run any articles about the litany of major issues with this phone. Hell even in the forums nobody seems to have put it together! Am I the only one who sees it??
Bricking on factory reset
Battery life issues
Black screen on calls
Hardware buttons randomly not working, requires soft reset
Phone suddenly stops reading SIM cards
I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the one I dealt with. Am I alone?
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Previous owner. Maybe that is your problem.
Son Loves it!!
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Previous owner. Maybe that is your problem.
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My son has had the 920 since it came out...Other than *****ing about the lack of the most popular apps (instagram, temple run, Jetpack Joyride...etc) the phone has been nothing but flawless. He will never give it up because he is an xbox junkie lol
i've had it for almost 2 months now..
only issue i've had is the crashing (normally every couple of days), since updating seems ok so far...I've flashed a few 'roms' to it, EE branded and normal
I thought the screen going blank in calls was supposed to happen? Like to save power? last couple of phones i've had turn the screen off when you put it to your head?
I'll be honest, i'm a little disapointed in windows phone 8, after coming from 7 with no crashes for a year (apart from once when i started messing with the registry) I found windows phone 8 quite shocking, coming from android/windows mobile i'd say its not to bad, but in someways it seems a downgrade. But so far no crashes with the latest update, and i'm hoping it stays that way, but honestly, I have a feeling your issues are isolated.
Also had the chance to use the new nexus 4 the other day, if theres a cover up going on, i'd say its those who say android is smooth and responsive....
I've been using my 920 for a month and haven't encountered any of your problems. The only thing I don't like about my 920 is that there is no app so far to automatically switch phone profile according to time and location.
I'm shocked 2 of you have had no problems. Search Google for any of the problems I listed and you'll find loads of people with the same issues.
Id get another one but I can't afford to keep buying phones when one ****s up. And yea the screens supposed to go black when you put it to your head but it was going black and staying like that so I could end calls, use the num pad, use speaker phone, or any of that. I found a work around but the proximity sensor is supposed to work
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I'm shocked 2 of you have had no problems. Search Google for any of the problems I listed and you'll find loads of people with the same issues.
Id get another one but I can't afford to keep buying phones when one ****s up. And yea the screens supposed to go black when you put it to your head but it was going black and staying like that so I could end calls, use the num pad, use speaker phone, or any of that. I found a work around but the proximity sensor is supposed to work
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Search google for ANY electronic device followed by the keyword 'issue / problem' and you are sure to get pages of results. People that don't have problems (most people) typically don't post about it while people with issues regularly post because they want the issue resolved. This gives an artificial bias to the negative and only reinforces the already tainted view of people in a mindset that something is rubbish.
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Search google for ANY electronic device followed by the keyword 'issue / problem' and you are sure to get pages of results. People that don't have problems (most people) typically don't post about it while people with issues regularly post because they want the issue resolved. This gives an artificial bias to the negative and only reinforces the already tainted view of people in a mindset that something is rubbish.
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I agree, since the last update I haven't had very many problems at all. And since I haven't been having issues I haven't been coming to the forums as much. I just come in every once in a while now to see if there's anything new. I'm not constantly hounding for an answer to my problems on a daily basis since I don't have problems. It's my guess that other people who have perfectly working phones would have like minds as me... or just not visit the forums at all.
No bricking during factory reset (had to do it once and I'm not going to do it again just to prove a point).
Battery life is awesome.
Hardware buttons are working fine.
Blank screen during calls isn't an issue for me since the proximity sensor works almost all the time, I think.... at least, it hasn't been a big enough concern for me that I actually notice it.... guess I should keep track of it.
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Pre-portico
No stability issues, but craptastic daylight camera and bluetooth connectivity issues
Portico:
Unstable. Reboots at least twice a day.
Good daylight camera
Good bluetooth connectivity.
Think people have to make a choice about the portico.
unstable and functional or stable and unfunctional.
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I've been using my 920 for a month and haven't encountered any of your problems. The only thing I don't like about my 920 is that there is no app so far to automatically switch phone profile according to time and location.
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This is also the main thing I'm missing, coming from Nokia N8 the situations was really a great app...
I think Nokia lumia phones in general have a lot of issues, as does Windows Phone. It's just there are so few users even if there was a problem, it would seem isolated. Microsoft's share in the smartphone market didn't even budge at all in 2012. WP users are not power users so they just run back to the store to get an exchange. Even the lumia 920 forum at wpcentral.com is slow as molasses. 90% of the posts are very shallow anyway. Most don't even know what screen size their phone is or what processor its running. the camera is just AMAZING and the phone is PERFECT, over and over again. Of course, this forum isn't any better. The only difference being the plethora of unlock threads, because xda is international.
Your description of WP users is fairly accurate & the market segment MS is going after. The enthusiast market is small & even on Android accounts for a very small % of sales. The easiest way to solve an issue is by exchanging the phone, if you have that option available to you. A lot of issues people are having are either caused by defective hardware or a bad flash IMO, which is an issue on any of the platforms.
Do people not expect bugs and hiccups at launch for these kinds of devices?
It happens. And it's not as bad as you perceive; it's not a conspiracy.
AW: The great Lumia 920 conspiracy.......
If ms allows developers create store accounts for free I bet there would be more apps on store.,.
I get what you guys are saying, but phone busting issues like that black screen on calls and bricking on hard resets shouldn't be common enough to have a thread full of people experiencing them.
If anyone knows of any way to get the phone to read SIM cards again, I'd like your help. I still miss using my lumia 920 :'(
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I have experianced just about every issue in this thread. I have users of the 920 I support for other stuff and I see how they basically ignore them as they did on their Blackberry or iPhone. I had the brick issue... news flash as I posted in another thread, it is not bricked!!! use the Nokia Care Suite, gets you going no problem. During my day I may deal with just about every phone they see at an AT&T store (Tmobile, Sprint,or Verizon for that matter)... they all have issues. Have you ever seen an iPhone user change their password on their laptop and not update the iPhone? Lets say you need to get to something before updating that password, like they changed the server setting trying to update it... go ahead try it. Drop calls, Steve Jobs had to properly instruct dumb iPhone users how to hold an iPhone. Andriod, perfect????? WTF are serious?? And becuase of that piece of software, it does not matter what hardware you are talking about.
My phone is limited compared to Andriod, I can agree with that.... but I can do more with fewer Apps and I like that. The 920 has had some hiccups along the way, but the hardware I have right now is as solid as any other phone out there, actually physically a tougher phone then any other top tier phone.
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This is exactly what I was trying to get at. These sorts of issues and threads are everywhere for many high profile smartphone launches, especially lately with this insane obsession with HW spec wars.
I've seen much worse, many times, you will not buy a high end smartphone at launch these days without having some sort of worry that there will be a game-breaking bug or defect.
WP 8 for 3 months:
NO ISSUES
POWER USER (i had portico when the first roms were available on navi)
my question is, are all these faulty devices on ATT or another crap american service , cause i think this may be your problem, ive had to work on vodaphone orange tmobile and ee 920's and 820's and i can say with pride that the only issue people have is the lack of popular apps., there is no conspiracy. why the eff are you people needing to hard reset anyway wtf are you doing to your phones?
I have to admit I've been having freezing issues regularly, often when it's just sat on my desk or in my pocket, and almost every night while on USB charge. I've also noticed on the odd occasion a reboot, but only because of my SIM being PIN locked.
Mine was a German Vodafone one, which I flashed on day 1 to the CV_GB ROM, then again to CV_GB Portico ROM. Maybe I'll try a different one, as I've heard the EE one has fewer issues.
Let me start this by saying I LOVE the Nexus 10. It's the most comfortable tablet I've used and the screen is just phenomenal, aside from that, the random reboots are really dragging down the experience. I'm sure there still have to be people having these issues, and what are you doing to combat/keep the tablet from rebooting? I've factory reset my device probably 5 times since my purchase in January, and have installed a few ROMs to try and stop them to no avail. I'm currently running CM10.1 with KTManta and are still having crashes daily, if not every 3-4 hours of heavy use. Location services are disabled, and Chrome is nowhere to be found. How many here are still having these issues? I'm just trying to grab a realistic number here for the community. Would those who are having freezes and reboots like to contribute to a global list where we could possibly list all of the applications that we use to see if there is a common ground amongst us? I just hate that this awesome tablet is being placed on the back burner for now with what would appear like no indication of upcoming fixes. I'm sure IO will bring us a more stable version of Android (4.2.2 is pretty awful) but that's still quite a bit away.
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There are two awesome threads that this is being discussed on, one is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998496 the other is a Google thread referenced in that same discussion.
I may have had a comepletely different problem, but a RMA made my N10 go from bad to good experience
Been running 4.2.2 official AOKP with default kernel for the last couple weeks and haven't had 1 freeze/reboot. Battery great also with around 7-8 hours of screen time.
4.2.2 was a huge improvement
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I am currently on a CM10 base and KTManta kernel and I have no reboots or other problems at all. I had been on AOKP PUB for quite a while before this and it was fine too, and before that I was on a really old build of CM10 (4.2.1) for a long time with only a couple issues due to memory leaks that caused a reboot once every few days.
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There are two awesome threads that this is being discussed on, one is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998496 the other is a Google thread referenced in that same discussion.
I may have had a comely different problem, but a RMA made my N10 go from bad to good experience
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Your second device isn't rebooting?
Edit: To OP. I gave up combatting it. Nothing seems to work. It could be an app but when it reboots sometimes every few days that would be hard to troubleshoot. I can swap an app list with you if you want although it may be more beneficial to see those the apps of those with no issues so you could have a starting point?
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I own this device for ~4 weeks now and I haven't had a single reboot, freeze or anything.
Of course I understand that not everybody is this lucky, so I feel sad for you guys but it seems to be more hardware reliant than anything with newer devices not experiencing many problems.
I experienced several reboots a day when I first received my Nexus 10. It was frustrating to use at best. Since the 4.2.2 (I'm running stock with root) upgrade and switching to Chrome beta I no longer have any reboot problems with the same device. I am now able to turn on location awareness without lockups or reboots as well. It's a complete 180.
My wife just bought her own Nexus 10 and hers has never locked up or rebooted spontaneously. Hers is stock, unrooted, and she uses non-beta Chrome.
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It is not.
I mentioned it in another thread, but I prefer to charge a units battery 100% full, then run the unit unitl it turns its self off from dead battery. The first two "cycles" on my RMA unit I did that, no problems during either cycle, each cycle was three days long. So then I started to charge it when the battery said 1%, and now I'm up to 302 hours of uptime. There have been no shell reboots during this 302 hours, as I've always been sure to leave an app in "recently used" and its always still there. I've also been using things that previously I would not have, such as Maps, apps that run message in status bar such as "Date In Status Bar HD" etc etc.
But full tech-slanted disclaimer because I know the history of this problem:
-My problem on my original unit 99.9% of the time manifested its self as "sleep of death", a bit different than "the masses"
-On my RMA unit, I've never opened Chrome. Not because I am wanting to use it but avoiding it, rather I only ever want to use one browser per device, and since I need to use Boat for Flash, I run Boat instead
-Similarly, I have not done anything "trying to force a crash" on the unit. For example, I've not run that crash app that dude just posted to the Google thread
-Again related to my personality/thought process: My goal has been "just use the tablet as I normally would" so that DOES include things like surfing the web on Boat for 3 hours at a time, running some lame match-3 games, etc etc. I am NOT sitting in a class all day with the unit open for 8 hour stints, nor am I watching YouTube for hours at a time, nor am I taking 1 hour video recordings on the device. So moderate use, but not "stress testing" use.
Still, the summary of my experience says it all (for me) - Could not consider the original unit dependable in anyway, it almost always was "off" if it was sitting on my desk, whereas now the new unit has not had a single event and I'm about one month into it, every day use... Original unit I noticed the problem within the first 3 days of ownership, but I thought there was a setting I had wrong, then I thought it was a problem that 4.2.2 would fix - both those assessments of my original device were wrong.
One more data point on this - My new unit is the D serial number, my original was the C - but another user here described the EXACT same crap I was dealing with, and his was a D - so I don't think there is an exact match for the possible theory of serial numbers (again in the context of sleep-of-death-manifestation.)
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~bm
I've not had one single reboot or freeze with this tablet, I'm on the stock 4.2.2. I have had some apps crash which brings me to my next point... How do your log cats look? They are usually a good starting point when trying to figure out the cause of a crash.
And if you are getting multiple reboots across a spread of roms than it's most likely an app. You need to take the time and figure out which app is causing it. It will be worth it in the long run!
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I mentioned it in another thread, but I prefer to charge a units battery 100% full, then run the unit unitl it turns its self off from dead battery.
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You do that every time? That's not good and definitely not needed with lithium ion batteries.
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I've not had one single reboot or freeze with this tablet, I'm on the stock 4.2.2. I have had some apps crash which brings me to my next point... How do your log cats look? They are usually a good starting point when trying to figure out the cause of a crash.
And if you are getting multiple reboots across a spread of roms than it's most likely an app....
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I think that is the point for the OP but nobody is doing it. Can you guys with no reboots list the apps on your device? That would give the people with reboots a starting point.
I appreciate the input to the thread but (I'll probably get flamed for this) many of the anecdotal responses are not of much value IMHO. You can't really start any troubleshooting with and not trying to single anyone out, 4.2.2 fixed it, my RMA'd device fixed it, beta-chrome works for me, non-beta for the wife, it's hardware, newer ones are better, turn off location services, etc. I have an RMA'd device so it is newer than the first batch. To that point, there is a guy in the thread bigmatty linked where the device is 8 days old. Is it an app? I hope so but with the infrequency of the reboots or seemingly randomness of it it is hard to troubleshoot. AOKP ran for 2 days 9 hours for me then crashed, then crashed again in 5 hours, and now up for 2 days again so far. The thing is they were all when idle so it is really hard to say what happened. One of my logs suggests gtalk loosing connection and rebooting the tablet. The other says nothing "illegal" or anything like that in the logs. Just the activity manager freaks out like every other log and then watchdog kills everything.
So, you guys with perfect N10s why don't you give us an app list so us poor bastards with reboots have a starting point....please
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I think that is the point for the OP but nobody is doing it. Can you guys with no reboots list the apps on your device? That would give the people with reboots a starting point.
So, you guys with perfect N10s why don't you give us an app list so us poor bastards with reboots have a starting point....please
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Look, that's not how troubleshooting works. The easiest and most efficient way is to reset your roms, add one or two apps a day, and keep adding apps till you find the problem. Patience is the key. But once you find the problem you'll be very pleased. Me or anyone else listing apps on our devices will not be meaningful to the problem because you're looking for apps that work, you're looking for ones that don't.
Your starting point is a ROM with no apps.
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You do that every time? That's not good and definitely not needed with lithium ion batteries.
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Well, I've personally done a lot of research into this topic, and no one will ever convince me any other method is as good for the batteries as it is. I've seen the battery discussions on both sides drag on for miles, so not worth discussing really. Just IMHO - ALL batteries can still suffer from memory effect. (Again, seen both sides of that discussion.)
I agree w/ the "top-level-general uncertainty" about these devices and thus the inherent frustrating complexities that rxnelson is talking about. My general opinion on the situation, is - if nothing else, there are some truly defective units in the field now, which further complicates the issue/troubleshooting.
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Look, that's not how troubleshooting works. The easiest and most efficient way is to reset your roms, add one or two apps a day, and keep adding apps till you find the problem. Patience is the key. But once you find the problem you'll be very pleased. Me or anyone else listing apps on our devices will not be meaningful to the problem because you're looking for apps that work, you're looking for ones that don't.
Your starting point is a ROM with no apps.
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Yea...well that is probably not going to happen for most people. Even at 10 apps 2 days per app you are looking at almost a month of troubleshooting. Most people aren't going to do that. There is also nothing to say that your bad app didn't cause an issue in 2 days but 4 instead you will be thinking the wrong app caused the issue. Anyway it was what the OP asked for so also trying to stay on topic.
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Yea...well that is probably not going to happen for most people. Even at 10 apps 2 days per app you are looking at almost a month of troubleshooting. Most people aren't going to do that. There is also nothing to say that your bad app didn't cause an issue in 2 days but 4 instead you will be thinking the wrong app caused the issue. Anyway it was what the OP asked for so also trying to stay on topic.
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Yeah I hear you man. When I was in the cell phone business as much as I love android I hated selling android phones because people go app crazy and install whatever they can find. Then they come back the next day because their phone isn't working properly. Lol.
But honestly, how many different apps do you use on a typical day? And let's put games and other non productive apps aside. So for troubleshooting purposes start with the apps you really, truly, honestly NEED and see if you still get issues.
This really becomes a circular discussion. Its the same as the original links I was referencing. Mods are just humoring us by not merging...
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Well, I've personally done a lot of research into this topic, and no one will ever convince me any other method is as good for the batteries as it is. I've seen the battery discussions on both sides drag on for miles, so not worth discussing really. Just IMHO - ALL batteries can still suffer from memory effect. (Again, seen both sides of that discussion.)
I agree w/ the "top-level-general uncertainty" about these devices and thus the inherent frustrating complexities that rxnelson is talking about. My general opinion on the situation, is - if nothing else, there are some truly defective units in the field now, which further complicates the issue/troubleshooting.
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I'd invite you to do some more research into the topic, check this out: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries It's a great site for real battery information.
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Yeah I hear you man. When I was in the cell phone business as much as I love android I hated selling android phones because people go app crazy and install whatever they can find. Then they come back the next day because their phone isn't working properly. Lol.
But honestly, how many different apps do you use on a typical day? And let's put games and other non productive apps aside. So for troubleshooting purposes start with the apps you really, truly, honestly NEED and see if you still get issues.
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I hear you as well. To be honest I'm just kind of done with troubleshooting. I've had a rebooting device since November. I'm just looking for a base to start with I guess. Kind of like at work. We have 10-15 core apps we install and test on a PC. When they are tested we make an image and blast that to the other devices. If 19 of 20 of the PCs work then we re-image the one. If that doesn't work it almost isn't worth the trouble shooting as we have 20 more that need imaged. Most of the time they chalk it up to hardware send it to the PC techs and move on. If I get bored I'll reflash....and yes honestly I don't use that many apps but it is still kind of a kick in the balls that you have to baby the device. I still think there is something generally wrong with the I/O of the two devices I've had. If I do a restore all apps and I mess with the tablet while it is downloading and installing all those apps they were both almost guaranteed to reboot.
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I'd invite you to do some more research into the topic, check this out: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries It's a great site for real battery information.
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:cyclops: I've read it all and done my own tests that span years... Even talked with former battery engineers about the topics and theories. My method always leaves my devices "more charged longer". Like I said, seen this battery topic drag on endlessly...
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This really becomes a circular discussion. Its the same as the original links I was referencing. Mods are just humoring us by not merging...
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So where is that app list?
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I hear you as well. To be honest I'm just kind of done with troubleshooting. I've had a rebooting device since November. IAt the very least,'m just looking for a base to start with I guess. Kind of like at work. We have 10-15 core apps we install and test on a PC. When they areexpressly increasingxotically increStillasing the oddse tested we make an image and blast that to the other devices. If 19 of 20 of the PCs work then we re-image the one. If that doesn't work it almost isn't worth the trouble shooting as we have 20 more that need imaged. Most of the time they chalk it up to hardware send it to the PC techs and move on. If I get bored I'll reflash....and yes honestly I don't use that many apps but it is still kind of a kick in the balls that you have to baby the device. I still think there is something generally wrong with the I/O of the two devices I've had. If I do a restore all apps and I mess with the tablet while it is downloading and installing all those apps they were both almost guaranteed to reboot.
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The odds seem so impossible that you personally would have got two defective devices, but clearly you have the tech chops to give a good assessment to the situation - I would love to see your experience with a third device... Just because each different physical device you test would keep exponentially increasing the odds.
A couple of the others who seem real in tune to this issue, I think have a hard or impossible return/RMA path, so I feel like it's an option not being that exhausted yet.
Well, I don't know that I am off much more help on this topic in general. I watched it so intensely for a couple months so its still got my interest. At the very least, guessing all the talks cab start again after klp is released!
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So where is that app list?
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I'll do this for you later today. Like I was saying, I think you are Not crazy :highfive:
I sent my phone G620 in assistance to poor functioning of the GPS and I came back with the same defect, gps slow and not accurate. how your GPS? is a defect of this phone?
Same here, since always.
Take a lot of time to fix position, and it's very unstable.
On a side by side with another phone, catches almost the same Sat's(less but almost the same), but with much less strenght so,because of that he doesn't fix my position, and when it does, it's very easy to loose it again... I don't know why, but even in my LG Optimus Black was the same :S .
who function very well
from the answers that I got I think that as this phone gps is a failure
Root it.
Download "faster GPS" from play store.
Set the new parameters that suit you.
Enjoy.
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from the answers that I got I think that as this phone gps is a failure
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Yes it is.
After a few months of using it, I love the size, the performance (I don't play games), and the battery is awesome. But I use google maps extensively, for work. This phone has been useless to me in that area, I still have to carry my tablet with me for this. Awful.
Fastergps and other apps have not helped.