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Headed out on vacation for the next week, so had to make a decision before my 30 day window was up.
Basically, I went with a larger screen for media related reasons (video, images etc), and the black-crush issue became a deal breaker for now. I think I'll sit on my crappy old iphone 3g for another month or so and revisit the Note or perhaps the the HTC onex. Hopefully the note will see ICS before too long and it'll fix some of the graphics issue i've been noticing.
That being said, I've got a couple cases that I will no longer need, they can be viewed in my review post of them in the review section. If you'd like them let me know...i'd accept cost of shipping plus beer money
And were supposed to care?
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And were supposed to care?
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Because he is selling his cases...
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Yup thats a **** move right there
someone might want a case :-/
I'll sell mine once the One X is out.
Maybe if it had an S4 / tegra 3 I would like it more. It would help it's bad battery life too
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I hate people like you.
You don't take the time to even read the post, yet take the time to be an asshole. So uncalled for.
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And were supposed to care?
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What a uncivilized fool.
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Take it easy guys....there is a buy/sell section for this kind of post though.
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Definitely curious about the one x and the ion....maybe even the s3
Have a fun trip!
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I believe the saurom fixed that issue didn't it? I watch lots of videos and stuff on mine and I don't notice anything.
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One x is weak
Would take s3 over that
Well...there are no official specs on the s3 currently.....so I can't agree with that.
It does disturb me that the one x has no sd slot and that the battery is not removable
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One x is weak
Would take s3 over that
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Well...there are no official specs on the s3 currently.....so I can't agree with that.
It does disturb me that the one x has no sd slot and that the battery is not removable
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Really? Looks like android is wanting to be like iPhone now haha what a joke
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Can't blame him. The Note is a joke without ICS. If Samsung wants to maintain any credibility they'll roll out ICS.
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Really? Looks like android is wanting to be like iPhone now haha what a joke
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I thought the same thing when I saw this. That would be a trend I'd never support. Batteries get weaker with time and it would be very inconvenient to send it off to be replaced. I hope this is just a rumor.
Sunday, March 11, 2012
OP & XDA Members:
I don't know if you'd even consider an unsubsidized device. But if you would, the international Note (GT-N7000) is a big improvement over the AT&T Note. This is an educated personal testimony, as I have owned both devices. As for battery issues (and this applies to both the N7000 & the I717), 99% of the issues I've encountered have been caused by software. Google Maps, certain kernels, and certain root-enabled apps can cause perpetual, long-lasting wakelocks when the device should be in deep sleep. This seriously impacts battery life. However, once these issues are addressed, the Note finds it's battery life on par with the iPhone 4 & iPhone 4S.
I'm not trying to get into an Exynos versus Snapdragon debate. I'm simply making observations about the two devices' respective benchmark results, and their real-world everyday performance. Whether these differences are a result of the change in SoC, or something else entirely, is a discussion best had in another thread. For the purposes of this thread though, the international Note would serve you much better, and offers a much larger development community (for the moment; anything can change).
As far as the One X is concerned, it's another prime example of AT&T neutering a device to ensure LTE compatibility. If you think this is an acceptable trade-off because the altered device allows you to connect to AT&T's LTE network, consider this. AT&T doesn't care if you get 40Mbps or 1Mbps downstream. Their goal is to get devices off of their congested HSPA(+) network and onto their LTE network. In the process, they can tout it as a major upgrade designed to give YOU better service. The truth is that this "upgrade" wasn't a decision made to compete with big red; it was a necessary move to relieve the stress on their HSPA(+) network before it collapsed.
So, next time you go shopping for a phone to use with good ole' Ma Bell, consider what the device can do for YOU... not them.
Thank you,
Ed
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No one phone is perfect, I hace owned more than 20 phones In the past few years and every phone I have had all have had drawbacks. What would be the incentive for a carrier to put out a perfect device when they rely on the revenue from phone sales? And everyone is different so everyone has there on perception of what perfect is. Me I couldnt have an Iphone as my daily driver because for one the screen is too tiny and two the iphone makes simple things much harder like creating a ringtone. But what I like about the Iphone is the many apps it has that Andriod still doesnt like Family fued.
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Well...there are no official specs on the s3 currently.....so I can't agree with that.
It does disturb me that the one x has no sd slot and that the battery is not removable
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Sunday, March 11, 2012
OP & XDA Members:
I don't know if you'd even consider an unsubsidized device. But if you would, the international Note (GT-N7000) is a big improvement over the AT&T Note. This is an educated personal testimony, as I have owned both devices. As for battery issues (and this applies to both the N7000 & the I717), 99% of the issues I've encountered have been caused by software. Google Maps, certain kernels, and certain root-enabled apps can cause perpetual, long-lasting wakelocks when the device should be in deep sleep. This seriously impacts battery life. However, once these issues are addressed, the Note finds it's battery life on par with the iPhone 4 & iPhone 4S.
I'm not trying to get into an Exynos versus Snapdragon debate. I'm simply making observations about the two devices' respective benchmark results, and their real-world everyday performance. Whether these differences are a result of the change in SoC, or something else entirely, is a discussion best had in another thread. For the purposes of this thread though, the international Note would serve you much better, and offers a much larger development community (for the moment; anything can change).
As far as the One X is concerned, it's another prime example of AT&T neutering a device to ensure LTE compatibility. If you think this is an acceptable trade-off because the altered device allows you to connect to AT&T's LTE network, consider this. AT&T doesn't care if you get 40Mbps or 1Mbps downstream. Their goal is to get devices off of their congested HSPA(+) network and onto their LTE network. In the process, they can tout it as a major upgrade designed to give YOU better service. The truth is that this "upgrade" wasn't a decision made to compete with big red; it was a necessary move to relieve the stress on their HSPA(+) network before it collapsed.
So, next time you go shopping for a phone to use with good ole' Ma Bell, consider what the device can do for YOU... not them.
Thank you,
Ed
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Good post. I own both and am keeping both. They have different strengths, one is updates and unlocked the other get access to the LTE network which is excellent in the area where I live. One other thing is you get 5GB on the LTE unlimited plan for $30 opposed to 3GB on the HSPA plan before throttling. I have not seen any battery issues on either.
I really like the looks and specs of the HTC One XL but no SD crd and the battery thing bother me. I think it is 16GB or it 32GB internal memory? I just do not get that...Just my .02 cents.
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Can't blame him. The Note is a joke without ICS. If Samsung wants to maintain any credibility they'll roll out ICS.
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Really? Do you even own one? Maybe you just don't know how to use it. My note works just fine with Gingerbread. It will probably be better with ICS, but it's not a joke without it. Considering the fact that we'll have ICS within the next few months, it's hardly a deal breaker even if you somehow can't stand to use the phone without the newest version of Android.
The main reason I chose ***android was more 3rd party capabilities and customizations.
you guys nitpick way to much....
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Customization and specs. Plus I'm not a real fan of iOS. Kind of boring.
Not going to lie, it was cheaper than iOS and I hate wp. This is my first Android, I don't plan moving to ios ever again.
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I was promised gold if I picked android.
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The main reason I chose Droid was more 3rd party capabilities and custimizations.
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You are in the wrong forum if you say droid do you mean android? jk. i like it because there is different roms i can use. also why is this in the Galaxy s 2 forum? but who cares any way
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You are in the wrong forum if you say droid do you mean android? jk. i like it because there is different roms i can use. also why is this in the Galaxy s 2 forum? but who cares any way
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You suck lol, first off I'm a gs2 user so naturally Id rather ask my peer, secondly, I said "Droid" as a nickname for the operating system.. why the nitpicking? I was simply curious about why people chose android over iOS. I commute daily to Philadelphia and 85% of people own iPhones.
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You suck lol, first off I'm a gs2 user so naturally Id rather ask my peer, secondly, I said "Droid" as a nickname for the operating system.. why the nitpicking? I was simply curious about why people chose android over iOS. I commute daily to Philadelphia and 85% of people own iPhones.
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Had iphones for the longest time, realized they suck. Being locked down is never fun and android lets me do what I want with the phone I spent my money on.
And as for the "Droid" for a nickname, no sir droid is a phone and android is the os.
I chose Android because Microsoft stopped working on Windows Mobile 6.5 (which was awesome).
It was the device I chose, the GS2, for the swapable battery and amazing camera. Android is what came with
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Wanted to check out android coming from RIM.. and after just a few months I couldn't stand the look of the iPhone compared to the many unique looks of android!
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I don't like being constrained. I was an early adopter of the g1, I broke a few and didn't have money to buy a new one. I got an iPhone 3g real cheap from att. I couldn't stand the constraints built into iOS. It made me insane that I couldn't change the wallpaper, this "feature" wasn't added to iOS until much later.
Not into being told how to use MY phone! Android for life!
I was also kind of disgusted with how apple conducts itself as a company and the pervasive culture of elitism in the iOS community didn't strike me as cool either.
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I have never liked the idea of buying a product from a company just so they can own me and tell me what I can and can't do with it.
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Had the iphone forever..got bored.
Love not having to use itunes...I hate itunes!
Love being able to back up my ROM and restore when need be
BIGGER screen!
Plug n play
No iTunes or zune needed for file transfer. If ms got rid of that damn zune requirement I would like it more
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Love not having to use itunes...I hate itunes!
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This. 1000 times this.
The customization and community/developer support makes the possibilities endless for Android. iPhone has some great things but you still can't change the default look and feel of iOS. I get bored with looking at the same thing all the time.
Firstly, I've chosen the Android over iOS simply because Android OS is smarter as we all call smartphone. How is it smarter? We all know.
Secondly, variety of choices, more options.
Thirdly, it's cheaper.
And to OP, "Droid" and android are two different things. Droid as you capitalize the letter D, is a phone. Start using correct terminologies.
Switched to Android after WM 6.5 was declared dead. Didn't care for the backwards direction I saw WP7 heading.
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I chose Android because Microsoft stopped working on Windows Mobile 6.5 (which was awesome).
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This is hilarious.
I use Android because of the ability to do so much customizing without needing to void the warranty. I carried a myTouch 3G and iPhone3G at the same time for a number of months (almost a year). My iPhone icon grid looked like every other iPhone, but no two Android phone's home screens look the same.
I'm not cool enough for an iphone.
Do you think The Samsung Galaxy S3 can avoid a similar fate?
No worry. By the time Apple pins down GS3, I will long selling off my GS3 for GS4
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No worry. By the time Apple pins down GS3, I will long selling off my GS3 for GS4
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Haha my thoughts exactly. I'll wait till the end of this year to see the next nexus launch
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I definitely think the SGS3 is in trouble, but before they can file anything Samsung is probably quickly working on a fix just in case the inevitable happens.
It's going to take them a few months to get all the paper work processed etc.
Anything apple brings out will still run ios and still be tied to itunes therefore wont ever beat a fast android device for me.
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Anything apple brings out will still run ios and still be tied to itunes therefore wont ever beat a fast android device for me.
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What.. Does that have to do with the topic?
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Anything apple brings out will still run ios and still be tied to itunes therefore wont ever beat a fast android device for me.
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We're talking about the patent issue and the Galaxy Nexus being banned.
Apple are just a bunch of over rated ass bandits and their products are over priced ****e tbh
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didn,t you guys read the article related to the design of sgs3? it clearly suggested that the current design was made by lawyers to save from any trouble from.apple
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GS3 injunction
First, the injunction obtained was a preliminary injunction based on a utility patent related to the universal search on the gnex. Somehow, apple was able to prove that they would be "irreparably harmed" absent an injunction based on this one patent. I still don't know how this is possible because it involves showing that people will buy the Gnex over the iphone because of this one feature.
Second, since it is a preliminary injunction based on a software element, all samsung has to do is change the disputed software element slightly. This is what allowed them to resume selling the SGSII in europe, and I believe the galaxy tab but I could be wrong. Once the change is implemented, voila, injunction pending final court decision.
Samsung, if they were smart, could very easily fix this situation by rolling out a software update. Also, I believe the judge said that this would clog an already over crowded docket, and this should be addressed at their trial date at the end of july. i guess if anything were to happen, it'd have to be after july 30th anyways
I think its interesting to note that apple has very little design patents succeeding on the merits, and really just minuscule utility patents for things like the lock screen and universal search. And I don't believe that's the reason any of US actually buy these phones.
I'm interested to hear other's thoughts on this, too
Sources: patentlyo.com, the verge and engadget's recent articles on Koh's denial of injunction on SGSIII. I can't post links yet because i'm too new. Also studying patent law in law school.
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didn,t you guys read the article related to the design of sgs3? it clearly suggested that the current design was made by lawyers to save from any trouble from.apple
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It's not just the design or design at all. That was for the Galaxy Tab and SGS1. It's the software and how we open up links with different apps, etc.
HTC already lost that one.
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^^^^^
This.
Apple's not going after Samsung or HTC per se, their after Google and Android in general. Since Google doesn’t produce their own h/w, Apple’s going after their partners that do. The injunction they just won is based on a feature integral to Android and with a victory (preliminary, it could still be overturned at trial and appeal after that) there's nothing stopping them from quickly applying the same argument to just about every Android device produced. I fully expect they will and of all the targets out there I can’t think of a better one than the SGS3. Second would be killing the Nexus 7 before it gets a chance to launch. HTC seems to be the weakest Gazelle so they may start there to get a few more notches in their belt before going after Samsung again. Sad really. All of Apple’s victories still won’t make me buy their products. I’d get a Windows phone if that was the only other option.
Samsung's different than the other manufacturer’s Apple's going after because of the "slavish copying" thing. Clearly the SGS1 and early G-Tab's were influenced by Apple's design. There’s a good chance that’ll get thrown out at one or more trials (or appeals) though based on "prior art;" meaning Apple got the patent but on designs that are document to have preceded theirs. The SGS3 is safe because of the "designed by lawyers" thing.
So I heard htc signed a dumbass comtravt with apples jealous ass. For 10 YEARS. Now how the hell will they then there back on android? WHY HTC WHYYY!!!. They where the best phones seriously the design never failed nevertheless there amazing sense UI. But now guess they gone with apple for doing so now im a samsung fan. Htc is messed up for letting us down like that and sure as hell gone loose alot lf. Customers more than they will gain. pathetic
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I think you have your info slightly mixed up. HTC have signed a 10 year licencing contract with apple. This agreement licences certain apple patients to be used in HTC devices. It has nothing to do HTC working for apple. It is basically a pre-emp solution to avoid the type of litigation samsung/motorolla are undergoing.
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I think you have your info slightly mixed up. HTC have signed a 10 year licencing contract with apple. This agreement licences certain apple patients to be used in HTC devices. It has nothing to do HTC working for apple. It is basically a pre-emp solution to avoid the type of litigation samsung/motorolla are undergoing.
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Exactly! Also if the op has not noticed or know anything about HTC's finances, they are not in the best standing right now in the stock market or as a company as a whole. They need to expand across the board including stopping this stupid "Exclusive" device/carrier crap and letting all carriers sell their flagship phones. Know how many more sales HTC would be making if all carriers sold their new HTC DNA device? A hell of a lot more. My friend that works at a flagship Verizon store says they can't keep the DNA on the shelves it sells so damn fast! iPhone thought they were smart with only selling thier phone to ATT for awhile. Then they grew a brain, now sell on all carriers, now leading sales across the world, Hmmmm...
HTC, great products, dump marketing ideas and concepts.
Now fix my Bluetooth issues and wired headset controls, lol!!!
This thread.........
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Droid life is reporting that AT&T scored the 64 GB exclusive for the One.
Wow if true that's total bull. Why hasn't HTC learned exclusive deals are not in its favor?
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Extremely disappointed if this is true, ridiculous. Don't launch a handset carrier wide giving the higher memory version exclusivity to one carrier. I use more than 32GB, and this is awful to hear now.
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I'm on at&t. I thinkk that's fantastic!
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But everyone is getting the 32 GB version.
Remember that last year, ATT and sprint received the one. And the ugly evo.
Most people won't buy the 64 anyways.
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Prolly this statement will be only applicable in the US. As I know HTC @ facebook confirmed that 64gb will be also shipped on Asia. In fact taiwan is already selling a 64gb version which makes this statement false if it's talking about global releases.
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I'm on at&t. I thinkk that's fantastic!
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I'm also on AT&T but don't like this cause that means not everyone in the US will have this as an option and will potentially consider jumping to the S4. And we can't have Samsung winning this round . . . but for us consumers if no one can keep up/surpass them on the android front.
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I'm also on AT&T but don't like this cause that means not everyone in the US will have this as an option and will potentially consider jumping to the S4. And we can't have Samsung winning this round . . . but for us consumers if no one can keep up/surpass them on the android front.
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It doesn't matter. Samsung is going to win 'this round' by far anyway. Just enjoy the phone you have. It isn't a contest.
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Wow if true that's total bull. Why hasn't HTC learned exclusive deals are not in its favor?
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Has anything HTC has done made sense? It's no wonder they're in the ****ter.
Im certain it was AT&T who forced the exclusivity.
So lets see.
I HTC want to gain market share and stop loosing money.
I HTC make blunder after blunder.
I HTC Limit my consumers choices to 32gb only so what my customers will go buy a Galaxy s4 with more storage?
I want to be like Apple and dictate terms yet I Cave into Exclusives.
HTC's strategy is for the carriers to carry them. While there primary focus should be to increase marketing develop better devices that are more user friendly and easier to upgrade (Hint removable battery) Create secondary markets so more people can push there name via accessories and have a secondary benefit of also pushing your phones name.
Look at Samsung and how much there name is pushed by accessory makers as well as carriers and there own marketing.
Larger batteries
Micro SD Cards
Cases
Back covers with different colors materials.
If Htc wants to compete and "The one is a Truce device amongst all carriers like apple etc" Then all carriers should have the option of 64GB as well.
Also the irony of it that they give the 64gb version to the only launch carrier that data throttles.
What I find funny is that a 17 Billion dollar company with 17K+ Employee's can not even make a phone on schedule or stick to there original plan of a Unified phone across all carriers. Naw lets just give ATT 64GB!
HTC's biggest mistake is that there on a LEASH, They are the dog while the Carrier is walking them. The ONE is there attempt of breaking past that leash yet they still do these silly exclusive things.
Hey HTC,
Cut some expenses dump more money into marketing make people want your device then let everyone have it all on all carriers. You don't see apple putting Verizon logo's on there iphone do you?
Fact is that you still don't learn from your mistakes and your begin carried right now to survive.
If this is true then I might have to change my decision. I'd have liked the One but I said from the beginning that if a 64gb version isn't available on Sprint I'll go with the GS4.
Disheartening
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I'm just happy to have more options to get my mits on a 64GB NAM LTE variant. Worst case this means I can walk into an AT&T or Best Buy store and buy one of these when I travel to the US and purchase with no commitment (if I have to).
Well they just made my decision to wait for the note 3 an easier one...Such a shame that they are so helpless to allow this to continue to happen to them.
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Well they just made my decision to wait for the note 3 an easier one...Such a shame that they are so helpless to allow this to continue to happen to them.
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Well they got PAID for it. You shouldn't be angry at HTC, you should be angry at AT&T for offering money to HTC to make it an exclusive.
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Well they got PAID for it. You shouldn't be angry at HTC, you should be angry at AT&T for offering money to HTC to make it an exclusive.
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I don't believe you can blame someone for offering. Blame should be placed on HTC for accepting that offer. Certain amount of stupidity too.
Or maybe it was blackmail! "We won't carry your phone at all unless you give us exclusive access to the 64gb version!" Lol. :laugh: Just kidding.
I hope this is just for the release and sprint will later down the road get the 64gb. Because of not adding a SD card. The only thing making me over look the SD not being as the 64gb as I have the evo lte with build in 16gb and a 64gb SD card. Come on HTC wake up....... Thanks matsudo
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I don't believe you can blame someone for offering. Blame should be placed on HTC for accepting that offer. Certain amount of stupidity too.
Or maybe it was blackmail! "We won't carry your phone at all unless you give us exclusive access to the 64gb version!" Lol. :laugh: Just kidding.
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Definitely att would have demanded for exclusivity of some kind. Like color or storage and they got the storage. Useless carriers they should all go bankrupt. Morons..
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Definitely att would have demanded for exclusivity of some kind. Like color or storage and they got the storage. Useless carriers they should all go bankrupt. Morons..
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Yeah, it just makes them all seem that much more despicable. *gag*