And let the battery woes begin - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

So got my S3 yesterday, installed some apps, etc. Throughout the day, battery life seemed respectable. Last night, I charged to 100% and let it sit overnight with nothing running. I woke up 7 hours later agreed and my battery was unfortunately at 81%.
1) The first problem (and this may be related to the battery standby usage) is that it claims I had No Signal and No Data Connection which was untrue.
2) The second problem is this "wlan_rx_wake" and "sec-batter-monitor" kept the phone awake.
Any ideas?

First impression for me is that this isn't an issue. I have sync off and update only when charging. Went to bed @95%, woke up it was 92%.
I did notice that it seemed to take a bit longer (than the One S)to get up to it's first full charge yesterday. This might have been my imagination though. It is a fairly large capacity battery.

From my experiences with new devices and even flashing new roms and updates. Give it a few days to cache and cycle. Then once the battery gets broke in you should be able to share your charging / discharging experience. I would rule it out as a hog yet.
This happened with my most recent firmware upgrade on my Asus transformer prime..Updated, drank juice, now after a week its better than ever.
Plus with everything you have on Bluetooth and such that can REALLY drain a phone..

I agree with discharge cycles and OS calibration but there shouldn't be wakelockers engaged.

Turned off WiFi, now there is a "deleted_wake_locks" under kernel wakelocks. What is that? Lost like 4% in 90 minutes of no use and "deleted_wake_locks" engaged the phone for 80+ minutes.

Does anybody know how long the notification light keeps blinking after getting a notification? I woke up in the morning and the light was blinking and had a text message from about 4 hours before the time I saw it. The blue LED was blinking. I hope it doesn't stay on until I see the notification since it's gotta use some of the battery.

shorty87 said:
Does anybody know how long the notification light keeps blinking after getting a notification? I woke up in the morning and the light was blinking and had a text message from about 4 hours before the time I saw it. The blue LED was blinking. I hope it doesn't stay on until I see the notification since it's gotta use some of the battery.
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That's pretty much the point of the LED - if it only lit up on arrival you'd have to be staring at the phone all of the time. But a flashing led like that should have a tiny impact on battery life.

there is a thread or two in the I9300 forum about cell standby, wireless wakelocks and battery drains. i was hoping i wouldn't hear about this with the US version but it looks like something similar is happening.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698289

You have one bar in the picture.. is that the same place you left your phone overnight? Even if you have signal albeit low signal your phone gives the radio more power in an attempt to hold onto that signal. That could have something to do with it. Also, I guess wifI is holding a wakelock :/
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i have to agree, low/no signal sucks bat life big time!
looks like wifi and bluetooth wer in use the entire time....
another tip, when you get done charging it, reboot it.
me personaly, i charge my phone while im asleep, then unplug and reboot as im headed out the door in the am...
to me it seems smarter to start the day with a full tank than a partial one and wind up hunting for power later....

i have no complaints about battery life..i have been on the same charge for 15 hours with light phone calls, heavy texting and web surfing, and my battery is still at 36% and this is only after my first charge cycle so i am guessing it will only get better after a few more cycles

After a few days with my SIII, I can say that the battery life is not quite as good as the One S I had briefly. It is however way better than the G2x, Evo, Indulge, and Sensation.
I will be getting at least one spare battery. I did not like having a captive battery in the one S. Keeping and using spares is not an issue for me.

First charge not bad
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[Q] Sudden 10-15% battery drops?

With very light usage, I've managed to get my Evo3D to last just shy of 2 and a half days. When actually using it, it's been a bit hit or miss, some days it tanks pretty fast, other days it's done quite well. But one thing I have noticed is that sometimes, especially around the 35% range, it'll spontaneously drop 10-15% (it actually did 43% straight to 14% this afternoon). It's visible in the battery use graph as a sudden nearly vertical line. It's never happened when I had the screen on actually doing something, it just happens randomly after turning the display off. Has anyone else seen this? It's pretty confusing.
First thing is first....
Did you download spareparts and see what is consuming battery? In other words, check for a wake lock.
You have to give the battery time to get conditioned. It gets better the more you go through charging cycles. I'm at 75% after 8 hours of moderate usage and that's pretty consistent for me.
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Darineth said:
With very light usage, I've managed to get my Evo3D to last just shy of 2 and a half days. When actually using it, it's been a bit hit or miss, some days it tanks pretty fast, other days it's done quite well. But one thing I have noticed is that sometimes, especially around the 35% range, it'll spontaneously drop 10-15% (it actually did 43% straight to 14% this afternoon). It's visible in the battery use graph as a sudden nearly vertical line. It's never happened when I had the screen on actually doing something, it just happens randomly after turning the display off. Has anyone else seen this? It's pretty confusing.
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For the first week or 2, the phone has a hard time understanding how full the battery is. Try draining it down to 50% or so, and then resetting it. You'll probably see a sudden drop or rise in the battery%. Resetting it will force the issue, but it can also happen while the phone is on. That's pretty normal till the the phone "Learns" the battery.
It doesn't mean you suddenly used 15% of your battery, it would probably explode if you did that... it just means the phone re-calculated the battery's life and changed the number.
Your not alone as soon as mine hits 35 percent ill shut the screen off and here it beep at me and bang its at 14%. lol same as you.
Don't know if it will help you.
I had a similar issue as you, battery would get to around 30ish % I could turn the screen on check an email, set it down and bam 14%, and the low charge noise.
I wasn't trying to fix it, instead I was doing this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153371
When I attempted this I had about 35ish percent battery left, following the directions my phone restarted when it came back up I got a 1% battery warning, then my phone went into emergency shut down. I thought something happened and I was going to have to return the phone. I powered it back up and it read 33%, from there on out my phone now drops a % at a time, and my battery life is as good as the other people who get phenomenal battery. I'm going on 48hours with light usage and still have 25% left. I've txt'd music, videos, nothing heavy.
Take it for what it's worth, I don't know what happened maybe the data reset, resets the battery calibration, I have no clue, all I know is what happened to my phone and the result.

Battery charging cycle

I've had my Titan for nearly 5 months now. I am hoping Titan's battery isn't that crap as I think. However, since last 1 week what I've seen is my LED goes green to indicate that my phone is charged. It shows 100% in battery saver menu. However, if I restart my phone while it's plugged in the charger even after green LED, then after the reboot my battery is down to 89-91% mark. Either the battery calibration has gone wonky or the LED doesn't recognise the real battery levels.
It would really help if anyone who charges their phone during the coming week, could restart their phone while plugged in as soon as you see green LED and then see if anything changes in your battery stats?
I've noticed my phone does last an hour or two longer if I charge after this reboot till it's 100%. It could well be a placebo effect for me. But might help if others see the same too.
drupad2drupad said:
I've had my Titan for nearly 5 months now. I am hoping Titan's battery isn't that crap as I think. However, since last 1 week what I've seen is my LED goes green to indicate that my phone is charged. It shows 100% in battery saver menu. However, if I restart my phone while it's plugged in the charger even after green LED, then after the reboot my battery is down to 89-91% mark. Either the battery calibration has gone wonky or the LED doesn't recognise the real battery levels.
It would really help if anyone who charges their phone during the coming week, could restart their phone while plugged in as soon as you see green LED and then see if anything changes in your battery stats?
I've noticed my phone does last an hour or two longer if I charge after this reboot till it's 100%. It could well be a placebo effect for me. But might help if others see the same too.
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The calibration is a little wacked. Here is my example - i charge it for 5 hours and it says 100%... but it only lasts about 7 hours and i can tell throughout the day that it drains faster. If i charge it for 8 i get closer to 13 with heavy web and game use. At 5 hours it turns green also ... but it seems as though it still charges more when left plugged in longer.
Some apps also like wp7 news clips off about 1 to 2 percent battery everytime i run them. (it brings in feeds from 20 different websites (estimate, i didn't count) so it's worth it but i check it a lot.
Could be wrong but as far as im aware that over charge protection. Your phone shouldnt really be charged 100%. 90-95% should be the sweet spot. Generally when i first noticed that i used to restart the phone and charge it to 100% but my battery life actually got less than just letting the phone decide when its enough
My titan has recently been getting more and more life from the battery; upwards of two days. I turned off wifi and I got 4 days 4 hours, died just some hours ago (I don't game much, but I do listen to music).
I've been getting into the habit of charging it when it gets below 5%, not every night like I used to. So it'll be 30% at night sometimes, and it'll last me another day with light/average usage (as opposed to my previous mindset where anything below 50% is a no go).
It might not work to leave till last 5% especially for someone like me who travels a lot. Don't you fear at times that your phone might faint when you really want to use it? As soon as my phone goes in battery saver mode I plug it in. Maybe that 90% limit as a reason. Over riding it helped me but if I did not over ride the following cycle then my battery performance seemed awful! Very strange working indeed.
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If I plan on using it AND I know I'm going out where there is potentially no USB to charge with, I bring my portable USB battey charger and/or one of my other phones. However, I don't mind not having a phone with me at all times, so if it dies, it dies. Still, I just got it to last 4 days, so if you don't watch videos or play games frequently, charging every three days is unheard of for a smartphone!
The battery's health relies on charging it properly, and I value keeping this up over having it charged when convenient for me. Battery saver kicks in at 20% I think, and with battery saver, you'll get almost another day with light usage, so charging when battery saver turns on is probably really hurting your battery.
I generally unplug my phone when I notice the LED turns green (even if I'm going to bed for the night I'll unplug it). I have never had such amazing battery life with any other phone, but I also have never taken such lengths to improve battery life either.
Why don't you pick up a brand new HTC Evo 3D battery off eBay or something and use that? Its a 1730mAh battery compared to Titans 1600mAh and works fine in the Titan.
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Deep discharging a Li-Ion is worse for it than frequent charging. Temperature also is very important and I haven't noticed the battery get hot when sitting on the charger after the light turns green.

[Q] Truth about Battery Display after flashing custom ROMS

Hi XDA,
Ive been getting alotta help from you, great developers, and had this question
that dont think has been solved yet. (I searched for 2 days)
So my current situation is;
Im running the latest energy rom (sense 3.0) with stock kernel, (as it was recommended on the post).
After flashing custom roms, beats audio and etc via ADB, i believe my
battery stat display is not normal.
It would take at least 90~120minutes to reach 100% from 99%.
And sometimes even if I have the charger hooked up to the phone
it would still drop to 99% from 100.
I have two batteries (Stock and Anker) and tested them both.
It looks like no matter how long i charge it, as long as i have 100% or 99%
on the battery, it takes around 12minutes and 13seconds screen-on time to drain 10% of the battery. Which it was way less than i expected.
but after dropping around 68~63%, the battery seems to last longer on each
percent points.
On top of that, I think my phone is not charging anymore when I turn to power off. I can feel the phones gone cold and not charging, but the orange light is always on and never turns green for some reason.
So my question is:
IS THERE ANY SOLUTION (LIKE BATTERY CALIBRATION THAT ACTUALLY WORKS?) TO THIS? IVE READ SO MANY THREADS ABOUT THIS BUT NOTHING IS GIVING ANYBODY A CLEAR ANSWER.
I have the same problem as you. I'm on Sense 3.5 RC1.6. Infact I just restarted my amaze in hboot mode and then back into normal. My battery went from 10% to 60%. Then after like 15 minutes of usage it went back down to 10%. Also my battery drains to almost dead at about ~3 hours of screen time with moderate-heavy usage.
have you guys fully charged it ? gone into advanced in Clockworkmod and deleted battery stats?
i havent hacked my amaze but when i had my g2x after every flash i would charge teh battery to 100% then wipe battery stats x2 and then let the battery drain to 0 percent. then it should give you accurate readings
I did that but I used Battery Calibrator app from market. 2 times and discharge to 100%. Also how long should the battery last on average?
I'm runnign stock, it lasts me a day, but depends on usage. I text alot, some calls, twitter facebook, a lot of music, some FML, and some camera lasts me all day, (i charge in the morning so it lasts me a full 24 hour cycle)
Hmm seems as if my battery drains pretty fast. I timed it with medium-low brightness just leaving the screen on, with 3g and music. I get 1% per 3 minutes on. No auto-sync or background data either.
as most of people usually say i should fully drain my battery and charge til 100%,
im doing that right now.
My phone got shut off during my jelly defense stage 13 session
and plugged the phone but it didnt turn on for like 10 minutes.
so i kinda freaked out that the clockworkmod recovery that i have right now
does not support charging when the phone is not awake, but i guess the charging is really slow since i have finally turned on my phone.
im just gonna let it sit on my side table charging, and ill prolly fall asleep..
cuz im definitely not in the mood to watch LeBron James' face tonight.
I will let you guys know.
Thanks.
tofuwrice said:
I have the same problem as you. I'm on Sense 3.5 RC1.6. Infact I just restarted my amaze in hboot mode and then back into normal. My battery went from 10% to 60%. Then after like 15 minutes of usage it went back down to 10%. Also my battery drains to almost dead at about ~3 hours of screen time with moderate-heavy usage.
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i hear you.
but after searching several threads about HTC AMAZE's bad battery life,
im slowly being convinced that 3 hours of screen time doesnt sound really that
bad. lol
mine just died around 2 hrs 45 min screen time while the phone was up without a charge for 14 hours. well i guess if i start using the phone nonstop after a full charge, then maybe ill get 3 hours or more.... but still...its only 3 hours...
mspecnur said:
so i kinda freaked out that the clockworkmod recovery that i have right now
does not support charging when the phone is not awake
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Once it`s charged make sure you flash 5.5.0.4 recovery. Using the toolkit makes that easy.
marleyfan61 said:
Once it`s charged make sure you flash 5.5.0.4 recovery. Using the toolkit makes that easy.
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thanks. will do right away.
ive overheard from someone that 5.5.0.4 is causing bootloops when flashing
other roms, but did you have any problem with this?

Faulty behavior in battery drain

Hey guys what's this means?!
My battery is falling down automatically with no use!
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I am wondering about this faulty behavior because i am in 510 firmware with no extra apps installed
I had this issue with. 475 too.
Help me please if this is a hardware issue send it back for second time in this week!
Instead of i charged this phone two time totally when i am bought it.first time faulty drainage happened yesterday when i played some game and battery went to 80% then i went to sleep for half an hour and when i turn the phone on again,noticed to battery is lost to 30%!
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I noticed a faulty battery usage indicator on mine.
It happened 2 or 3 times, when I plugged the USB cable to the phone (other end connected to a PC or charger) and the phone LED immediately turned green and the battery indicator jumped from 60% to 100%.
Nothing happens if I re-plug the charging cable, the phone keeps saying it's fully charged. Even powering off doesn't help.
The 100% power won't drain faster but I noticed that when it goes to 30% the phone will shutdown because no more juice is inside the battery and the indicator will go back to less than 10% after re-plugging the power cord.
luisarn said:
I noticed a faulty battery usage indicator on mine.
It happened 2 or 3 times, when I plugged the USB cable to the phone (other end connected to a PC or charger) and the phone LED immediately turned green and the battery indicator jumped from 60% to 100%.
Nothing happens if I re-plug the charging cable, the phone keeps saying it's fully charged. Even powering off doesn't help.
The 100% power won't drain faster but I noticed that when it goes to 30% the phone will shutdown because no more juice is inside the battery and the indicator will go back to less than 10% after re-plugging the power cord.
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Is this happened even after new update for you?
Anybody else has similar issue like me?
i am so confused ? !
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babakmaham said:
Is this happened even after new update for you?
Anybody else has similar issue like me?
i am so confused ? !
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I'm using the build 14.1.B.0.471
luisarn said:
I'm using the build 14.1.B.0.471
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In your case i think that's better try it with latest firmware.maybe solved.
But for me,the story is different,unfortunately!
another Q has been busy in my mind. Why sony didn't used a better charger for this phone?! Charger has only 1.5 mA output power! For test, i am charging the phone now with s IV charger (2mA)
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babakmaham said:
In your case i think that's better try it with latest firmware.maybe solved.
But for me,the story is different,unfortunately!
another Q has been busy in my mind. Why sony didn't used a better charger for this phone?! Charger has only 1.5 mA output power! For test, i am charging the phone now with s IV charger (2mA)
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Higher mA output is not necessarily better.
Taking more time to charge is more gentler on your battery.
Pumping up the mAh to 2 or higher will improve the charging time, but the number of total cycle charges (i.e. life span of your battery) will go down and suffer.
Anyway, 3 hrs from empty to full is normal, right? Anything quicker is a quickcharger.
jewelkobayashi said:
Higher mA output is not necessarily better.
Taking more time to charge is more gentler on your battery.
Pumping up the mAh to 2 or higher will improve the charging time, but the number of total cycle charges (i.e. life span of your battery) will go down and suffer.
Anyway, 3 hrs from empty to full is normal, right? Anything quicker is a quickcharger.
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Ok.no problem dude.3 hours is good time charge for me,but i have another issue that is explained to you.my battery is falling down suddenly!i don't know what is caused for this behavior.see picture in this post!this is a normal drain after a couple of hours.but after one or more hours that is falling down suddenly to 40%! Without any usage.
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babakmaham said:
Ok.no problem dude.3 hours is good time charge for me,but i have another issue that is explained to you.my battery is falling down suddenly!i don't know what is caused for this behavior.see picture in this post!this is a normal drain after a couple of hours.but after one or more hours that is falling down suddenly to 40%! Without any usage.
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Good thing you included screenshots from GSAM, so that we have something to go on now.
Remaining (Av.use) 18:51
This tells me that you once had a phone that was efficient, so from the day you realised this drop in performance, scrutinize what settings have changed (inc app installation)
Remaining (last 15 min usage) 5:47
IF u continue using your device in the way you have done in the last 15 mins, you have under 6 hours left of battery power.
In the 15% discharge since fully charged (and since when GSAM started taking this data on your screenshot), 62.9% of power was used by screen.
Some conclusions can be drawn here.
As you mention, you were probably playing some games during the 4hrs and 11min the phone was turned on(from when it was fully charged and then unplugged), very likely during the latter stages than earlier from when the phone was fully charged.
I see your screen is set on DIM, and that it has been active for nearly one hour. Your display was on for 25% of the time since full charge, and that has only used up 15% of battery.
Whether it is games or video playback, screen will be on, and looking at the data there is nothing faulty. In another words, set at dim, 7 hours or so of continuous display on sounds about right..(1 hr already used plus 5:47 expected left)
Now, if your complaint is that if you turned your phone screen off and left it that way for a few hours, came back, then found massive power drain, again, a few conclusions can be taken.
It is a shame there is no screenshot of the app usage form the exact same period. But, If you left the game app open in the background, it is possible that power is drawn still, possibly if your phone is not sleeping properly. In another words, CPU usage for game is there even when not used.
Do you have stamina mode on?
Conclusion... Form GSAM data, there is nothing wrong.
Looking at the first screen capture in OP, as you say, drain happened when phone was not awake, and screen off. I can only conclude that there was an app(s) open at the time which had been still running. If the app(s) is not closed or hibernated properly, it can happen.
If your phone felt hot at that time, it confirms CPU usage.In another words something was left open. If it was cold, even though the phone had been off for a while, then it could be faulty battery calibration.
And next time you see this big drop in charge, take screen shots of GSAM from apps and system. We would know then for sure.
jewelkobayashi said:
Good thing you included screenshots from GSAM, so that we have something to go on now.
Remaining (Av.use) 18:51
This tells me that you once had a phone that was efficient, so from the day you realised this drop in performance, scrutinize what settings have changed (inc app installation)
Remaining (last 15 min usage) 5:47
IF u continue using your device in the way you have done in the last 15 mins, you have under 6 hours left of battery power.
In the 15% discharge since fully charged (and since when GSAM started taking this data on your screenshot), 62.9% of power was used by screen.
Some conclusions can be drawn here.
As you mention, you were probably playing some games during the 4hrs and 11min the phone was turned on(from when it was fully charged and then unplugged), very likely during the latter stages than earlier from when the phone was fully charged.
I see your screen is set on DIM, and that it has been active for nearly one hour. Your display was on for 25% of the time since full charge, and that has only used up 15% of battery.
Whether it is games or video playback, screen will be on, and looking at the data there is nothing faulty. In another words, set at dim, 7 hours or so of continuous display on sounds about right..(1 hr already used plus 5:47 expected left)
Now, if your complaint is that if you turned your phone screen off and left it that way for a few hours, came back, then found massive power drain, again, a few conclusions can be taken.
It is a shame there is no screenshot of the app usage form the exact same period. But, If you left the game app open in the background, it is possible that power is drawn still, possibly if your phone is not sleeping properly. In another words, CPU usage for game is there even when not used.
Do you have stamina mode on?
Conclusion... Form GSAM data, there is nothing wrong.
Looking at the first screen capture in OP, as you say, drain happened when phone was not awake, and screen off. I can only conclude that there was an app(s) open at the time which had been still running. If the app(s) is not closed or hibernated properly, it can happen.
If your phone felt hot at that time, it confirms CPU usage.In another words something was left open. If it was cold, even though the phone had been off for a while, then it could be faulty battery calibration.
And next time you see this big drop in charge, take screen shots of GSAM from apps and system. We would know then for sure.
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Special thanks for your great comment
Fortunately,that horrible battery drainage don't happened from yesterday to now.
This means there is no faulty behavior after last full charge that i have been!
I don't know that reason but i done some actions after fully charged phone yestarday:
1.instilling Gsam battery pro as you have seen!
2.Charging with another charger(2mA galaxy s4 charger)
3.setting screen brightness to 30%
4.setting off "optimized backlight"
5.battery calibration with "battery calibration" app
This new informations from my battery behavior after 19 hours fully charged at last day from now and i hope that horrible drainage wouldn't happen in future else!
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[Q] Battery acting really weird, is it time for a new one?

Hi all, thanks in advance for your help.
I've been having crazy drain trouble with my stock battery for about six months now (the battery is currently 15 months old). It's draining like crazy, it goes from 100% to dead after two hours of browsing/reading an ebook, even less if I'm playing something like Candy Crush Saga or Asphalt 7. I tried going through several apps such as Wakelock Detector, Better Battery Stats, tried recalibrating the battery and haven't found an obvious culprit - other than the screen, which alone uses up something between 40 and 60% of the battery.
Is this normal?
Sometimes, when the battery is at 30% or less, it will just drop by several percent in the matter of seconds, for example if I switch on mobile internet. If I'm using the phone at <10%, the screen will sometimes start flickering, and the phone will freeze and remain like that until I switch it off manually.
In addition, if I connect the phone to charge, in about 70% of times, it will incorrectly show something like 45-55%, even though it's depleted. Then it remains like that until it's charged up to that point and then the percentage starts rising again.
Honestly, I'm tired of having to bring my charger everywhere and ending up with a dead phone whenever I need it for a longer period of time. I don't remember the last time my battery didn't die by the afternoon
I'm facing exactly the same issues and yes, honestly I believe it's time for a new battery.
After 15 months, assuming daily charging, you would have approx. 450 charging cycles. Lion batteries are known to age and to lose capacity after so many cycles. Try a new battery, if the problem persists, have your phone checked.
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