Hi!
I'm using K-9 Mail instead of the stock email app on my rooted NookColor and I've noticed that the changes I make in settings are not stored
Anyone here using K-9 Mail too? Do you have the same problem?
Thank you in advance for your feedback.
xyzolog said:
Hi!
I'm using K-9 Mail instead of the stock email app on my rooted NookColor and I've noticed that the changes I make in settings are not stored
Anyone here using K-9 Mail too? Do you have the same problem?
Thank you in advance for your feedback.
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Folder settings I saw this, but no-where else. It seems to not be reproducible on the latest version on their site, especially if you use the status bar back button, NOT the big text Back button in the dialog.
I logged a bug because I could NOT get it to set folder settings (and stick), and now I can't repro it.
Thank you very much: it has solved my problem
I used K-9 on my Droid for about 6-7 months. I then discovered how to use the Gmail app to have my pop3 emails pushed. Here's a quick writeup I did over on DF about extending battery life. This one paragraph is about the gmail app:
Emails: I don't know what email app you use, but try this. It saves battery power and in some cases emails arrive quicker. This scheme will have you using only the Gmail app on the phone for all email accounts whether they are pop3 accounts or Gmail. Go to the Google Gmail inbox on your computer and log into the Gmail account. On the top right of the screen is an option called Settings. In there is an option to have the Gmail program poll your regular, non-Gmail accounts. Provide the email address and the password. The Google Gmail program will then poll your other accounts on a frequency from 1-5 minutes and push the email immediately to your phone. The polling frequency is determined by each account's activity - more emails = faster polling. It will always be no less frequent than every five minutes. This saves battery power because on the android OS pop3 accounts are polled at a frequency of 1-30 minutes and that really eats battery. Because the phone goes and checks those accounts for mail whether there is mail there or not.
I've been doing the above for 6-7 months now and could not be happier. Good luck.
Geezer Squid said:
I used K-9 on my Droid for about 6-7 months. I then discovered how to use the Gmail app to have my pop3 emails pushed.
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No thanks, I like K9. And POP3? Welcome to 1990.......
I was having the same problem a couple of days ago with the latest version from the Market. The solution I did was to not use the big back button up top but the little one down below just like you mentioned. The big one wouldn't save settings but the little one did. Weird
bitnerd said:
I was having the same problem a couple of days ago with the latest version from the Market. The solution I did was to not use the big back button up top but the little one down below just like you mentioned. The big one wouldn't save settings but the little one did. Weird
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Actually not weird; the Back button that the B&N ROM has on the dialogs isn't sending the right intents, as the K9 folks found out.
I logged a bug about this in their tracker and they discovered the difference in the buttons and that the status bar back (from Softkeys) works. Although I still swear it wasn't working for either at first.
Exactly as the subject states. I get notifications for both, And honestly, the Gmail app sucks anyways, as it doesn't sync with my email for quote awhile.
You can disable your Gmail account from syncing on gmail, but you can't delete it as far as I know. You can also uninstall the app from root explorer, but I don't know the precautions of that since the market depends on a gmail account. It would be safe to backup.
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I always thought it was silly myself. I disable Gmail on every android phone and use the stock email app alone.
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Gmail is better when used with gmail.
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borguesian said:
Gmail is better when used with gmail.
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I agree. The push notification works better than the stock app. I only use gmail, so its not an issue. That's not to say I don't have a hotmail, live, and yahoo email address, just that I only USE gmail.
The gmail app let's you label, archive and choose which folders sync how long. The stock email client doesn't do any of that.
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quarlow said:
I agree. The push notification works better than the stock app. I only use gmail, so its not an issue. That's not to say I don't have a hotmail, live, and yahoo email address, just that I only USE gmail.
The gmail app let's you label, archive and choose which folders sync how long. The stock email client doesn't do any of that.
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I also use gmail, my only gripe is that I can't empty the trash
quarlow said:
I agree. The push notification works better than the stock app. I only use gmail, so its not an issue. That's not to say I don't have a hotmail, live, and yahoo email address, just that I only USE gmail.
The gmail app let's you label, archive and choose which folders sync how long. The stock email client doesn't do any of that.
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All I can say is the Gmail App is great, however, I have not used the stock samsung email client as the last time I used it, sucked big time, some email clients *old eudora especially when I first got my Samsung Captivate last year* were getting gibberish from sending e-mails. I use MailDroid Pro and Gmail.. Since upgrading to the i777, I am still using maildroid pro and gmail app. I even get gmail messages in maildroid because of the ease of deleting messages I don't want to see!
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personally, i like having separate notifications via separate apps for my exchange email and gmail... it works better for me that way.
Because the gmail app blows away the stock email app when used with gmail... Since I only use gmail, the other email app is one of the first things I nuke.
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Really?
Man, I use GMail too, but the app for it sucks for me. It doesn't update everything nearly as quickly as the stock email client.
1. If I delete emails from my inbox (from a computer or something) it takes hours before it shows up in the GMail app, and vice versa as well.
2. It doesn't refresh the emails on launch, it seems to be quite random (and in the range of a few hours late anyway)
I can see how the stars and folder would be nice, though I don't use them. But still, the intense delay in communication really bugs. Or is it just me?
demon9206 said:
Really?
Man, I use GMail too, but the app for it sucks for me. It doesn't update everything nearly as quickly as the stock email client.
1. If I delete emails from my inbox (from a computer or something) it takes hours before it shows up in the GMail app, and vice versa as well.
2. It doesn't refresh the emails on launch, it seems to be quite random (and in the range of a few hours late anyway)
I can see how the stars and folder would be nice, though I don't use them. But still, the intense delay in communication really bugs. Or is it just me?
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Apparently, it's just you.
Mine updates fine. I use both. The Gmail for the phone stuff and the other for work exchange email.
My gmail app is great as well. it updates quickly. you may want to check your settings.
i agree with the two above me... for gmail, when i read/delete an email from my computer the notification/email is gone from my phone within 5 seconds.
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Both Gmail and Stock email sucks, IMO. :Q
Gmail client
1. The biggest problem is, it only supported gmail. Everyone has several email accounts, don't you ? Then, you would need at least two email clients to read all of them.
2. No pinch zoom. Sometimes, the emails (in HTML format) exceeds the width of display, so you move to the right side to see them.
3. Sync is sometime slow, as indicated by other posts. I have encounter slow sync several times.
4. When composing new emails, it will prompt you matched recipients after you typed few letter. But, I would have to have an option to pick from Contact app.
Stock email
Most of let downs are due to Exchange support
1. In my corporate Exchange, I setup rules so that incoming emails will be moved to various folders. The stock email can only sync Inbox folder. You have to select that folder(e.g. "My other folder"), the email app will then refresh. But, it does not sync, as such, no notifications.
2. No "delete all" in Trash folder
3. In list view (the screen show preview of emails), to delete an emails, you need to press the email and hold it for few seconds. Then you select "delete". This is non-intuitive design. Gmail uses checkbox, and iPhone uses swipe delete.
4. Then, I feel there is "lag" when deleting the emails. Sometime, right after deleting the emails, the email app paused for few seconds before the app became responsive again. It's because the app is trying to refresh with server. But, it should do so in the background process. iOS's email is definitely much more responsive in this regard.
5. Similar to gmail, there is no way to pick recipients from Contact. You have type few letters, then you can pick from matched list. Don't get me wrong, picking from matched list is good. But, sometimes I just cannot recall recipient names. So bringing-up Contact app to pick recipients will definitely help.
How do you disable the gmail account from syncing (in the stand alone gmail app)?
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3. In list view (the screen show preview of emails), to delete an emails, you need to press the email and hold it for few seconds. Then you select "delete". This is non-intuitive design. Gmail uses checkbox, and iPhone uses swipe delete.
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Choosing delete from a context menu is very intuitive; I think what you mean to say is that is it not efficient. To delete multiple emails in a list view, just press MENU, choose DELETE, and then check off as many emails to delete as you'd like.
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Really?
Man, I use GMail too, but the app for it sucks for me. It doesn't update everything nearly as quickly as the stock email client.
1. If I delete emails from my inbox (from a computer or something) it takes hours before it shows up in the GMail app, and vice versa as well.
2. It doesn't refresh the emails on launch, it seems to be quite random (and in the range of a few hours late anyway)
I can see how the stars and folder would be nice, though I don't use them. But still, the intense delay in communication really bugs. Or is it just me?
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Just you my friend. I have the opposite issue. The Gmail app gets emails and updates instantaneously and the Samsung client is a slow battery hog.
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Choosing delete from a context menu is very intuitive; I think what you mean to say is that is it not efficient. To delete multiple emails in a list view, just press MENU, choose DELETE, and then check off as many emails to delete as you'd like.
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Well, it's probably me. At first, I did not know press-and-hold will bring up the context menu. That's why I think it's unintuitive.
But, you are right that I also meant that it's not efficient.
Overall, IMO, the Email/Contact/Calendar apps leave much to be desired , comparing to Blackberry's and iOS'.
Crap you guys were right, it was setup to update several hour's away by default, rather than emails 30-minute. But even after activity it wouldn't refresh in the background.
I am really glad I stirred up good conversation here, seeing everyone's points. Thank you all for your replies
Also, no troll here.
anyways, I decided to just get a paid email apparently that is pretty good, so we will see how that goes.
My wife got this phone over this past weekend. The stock email app is not updating. She never receives her new emails on her phone. So I downloaded k9 app and it worked the first day. Now it is not syncing with her yahoo email account and always says she doesn't have any new emails. She can login to her email on a computer and has several new emails a day. Any ideas?
Im assuming youve been through the basics? Making sure mobile data is on, settings are set correctly in the app for refresh times, background data enabled, no task killers/managers running, etc.
Check Settings / Accounts and make sure the account(s) are set to sync and that they're allowed to sync in the background.
Although this may not be the answer to your issue,I had a similar experience w/the G-MAIL app recently.I tried everything,including downgrading to an older version of it.
I consulted w/other users & compared settings.Mine were identical,but,still had to manually refresh to see the new mail in my inbox.
The only thing that resolved this issue was a factory reset.Works fine now.
Additionally,while having this issue,I was unable to access the DATA SAVER settings page.When I selected it,it would just flash,as if it were trying to open,but,no can do.
Weird thing is that I only messed w/these settings on one occasion,when the phone was new,just to check it out(no need to limit data on an unlimited plan,right?).
Anyway,after the factory reset,everything is back to normal.
Just goes to show there is no perfect phone,O/S,or app,100% of the time.
I noticed recently that my data usage was up over last months data so i started looking at what apps used that data. I was surprised to see that my single mail account (comcast) had burned through 420MB in 15 days. I've only received about 4 dozen emails with very few/small attachments. I have my mail set to sync every 15 minutes. I also noticed this on my Wife's rezound as well. I am running bamf 1.1 and she is running stock GB. I also noticed this crazy data usage on my buddie's thunderbolt. In none of the above cases did that actual emails support the actual data usage.
Seems like a lot of email generated by the HTC mail app during sync.
Anyone else seeing this? It has me wondering if there is an issue with htc mail app.
Just a theory but if you have auto push in your settings then it is constantly looking. If you go in to your settings in the app and set a spacific times to check your mail may help. I just started using mine yesterday and when I read this I noticed it was high to so i changed mime just not long enough to tell yet. Maby it will help.
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The stock HTC mail app doesn't have a push setting... it only allows specified intervals and sync on open...
The whole thing is odd...
It's up to you if you want to experiment but I have my gmail account polling my comcast accounts so that I can get push updates. I only use the gmail client on the phone. Only down side is it only polls hourly.
I have one exchange account set to sync calendar and email. The Exchange process itself only uses around 7% of battery according to the battery graph. The 'awake' line under the graph has some solid areas accompanied by a corresponding steep drop on the battery curve.
Using GSam battery monitor to show which app had the most Time held awake shows Exchange over 5hrs.
I tried changing from Push email to every 10 minutes but it hasn't helped.
I also tried deleting the account, clearing cache and data from the exchange app and recreating the account.
Has anyone solved this issue?
I have not solved it but have the same problem. Galaxy S3. I need Exchange Sync, it finally got me to stop missing BlackBerry
Charging twice a day still stinks. Do other Android phones have this constant awake issue when running Exchange? Is the issue specific to ICS?
Hi, never experienced this on my S3, but did on my S1. A few things to try:
- Push can actually be more battery friendly
- Disable Calendar sync, if that cures it, try deleting all recurring appointments, starting with the oldest ones. Bad recurring appointments are known to send the sync process in a loop.
- Wrong login credentials keep the phone awake, even when sync is set to never!
I use Enhanced Email, in which security can be overided ( no server forcing a lock on the phone). I have read that security policies from the ecchange server can cause problems too.
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Yep same problem here too, anyone?
I'll try turning off calendar sync. I turned off push but that made no difference, as you suspected. I use touchdown for email, task, and calendar and also use device exchange sync for calendar (the latter so Calendar Snooze will work with appointments). I can probably get by syncing calendar manually but not using is not an option since calendar is more important than calls and email for me.
Will report back with findings.
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I'll try turning off calendar sync. I turned off push but that made no difference, as you suspected. I use touchdown for email, task, and calendar and also use device exchange sync for calendar (the latter so Calendar Snooze will work with appointments). I can probably get by syncing calendar manually but not using is not an option since calendar is more important than calls and email for me.
Will report back with findings.
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Hi techphets
Just wondering if you managed to fix this issue??
Ive also spent hours and hours trolling around trying to find a fix for this, but with no success any thoughts?? I have the galaxy s2 (not rooted, ics 4.0.3) so its definitely not just your S3, its more widespread. ICS? or the email app??
Cheers
i never use any stock apps especially when it connects to the networks and syncs so i just uninstall it to make sure that it doesn't consume battery life
Thanks. However when I log in to outlook online on my phone, the emails that appear are months old so it doesn't sync online. The only way to see new emails it to use the app (so I've found so far anyway)
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