Both AT&T and Verizon appear to be equal in almost every aspect in my area( Coverage, cost of the plan I need, subsidized phone cost), so that leaves the 1 question that really matters:
Which is easier both to root, and even more importantly, unroot to the point I can still use my warranty?
qwer777 said:
Both AT&T and Verizon appear to be equal in almost every aspect in my area( Coverage, cost of the plan I need, subsidized phone cost), so that leaves the 1 question that really matters:
Which is easier both to root, and even more importantly, unroot to the point I can still use my warranty?
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As of right now there seemed to be no root for the Verizon version.
It's a cake walk for the At&t GS3
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It's a cake walk for the At&t GS3
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I know you can root without tripping the counter, but I thought roms still did. Am I wrong?
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I know you can root without tripping the counter, but I thought roms still did. Am I wrong?
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Flashing ROMs will not trip the counter...anything flashed thru CWM won't trip it. ODIN does...someone please correct me if I'm wrong..pretty sure I'm right tho.
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Flashing ROMs will not trip the counter...anything flashed thru CWM won't trip it. ODIN does...someone please correct me if I'm wrong..pretty sure I'm right tho.
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AWESOME! Now, it just needs to get easier(perhaps a one click solution or one done entirely from the phone). Hopefully by the time I get it mid august it'll be easier. The only pain in the ass is that, currently, it requires windows, does it not?
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AWESOME! Now, it just needs to get easier(perhaps a one click solution or one done entirely from the phone). Hopefully by the time I get it mid august it'll be easier. The only pain in the ass is that, currently, it requires windows, does it not?
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Windows? After you actually have the phone in your hand and have read and searched the forums, let us know how things are going. Happy to help with the basics.
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Windows? After you actually have the phone in your hand and have read and searched the forums, let us know how things are going. Happy to help with the basics.
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Microsoft Windows, the os. It is required to do the no trip counter method right? I ask because I use linux full time.
Verizon has a locked boot loader and doesn't have Sims
Att (correct me if I'm wrong ) has ****ty lte coverage
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Verizon has a locked boot loader and doesn't have Sims
Att (correct me if I'm wrong ) has ****ty lte coverage
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Well, in an area where my options are 'not LTE with Verizon' and 'Not LTE, but at least HSPA+ with AT&T' AND Verizon proceeds to lock the bootloader... I'm dropping Verizon after 6 years!
Think about it Verizon has a fast roll out of lte
Also after you've been a customer for a while you get special benefits
I know on sprint when I can't pay the bill on time I can just call and ask for a extension of about a week or so
This way my cell still has network access
As much as I like to pay my bills on time some times I can't and this helps
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Think about it Verizon has a fast roll out of lte
Also after you've been a customer for a while you get special benefits
I know on sprint when I can't pay the bill on time I can just call and ask for a extension of about a week or so
This way my cell still has network access
As much as I like to pay my bills on time some times I can't and this helps
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At&t has stretched my payment date by over two weeks before...as long as I make the promised payment they will do it every month and won't even charge me a late fee...
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The thing is you were on the carrier for a while
I heard that they don't do this to new customers
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The thing is you were on the carrier for a while
I heard that they don't do this to new customers
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And even if they didn't, I plan to pay 6-10 months at once with student loans.
I wouldn't even consider Verizon with this whole bootloader issue. I say AT&T.
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I wouldn't even consider Verizon with this whole bootloader issue. I say AT&T.
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I've concluded the same as well, but do I get a 2 yr contract, or buy the device outright and do $45/mo on straight talk?
Can someone who has the S3 with AT&T confirm the bootloader is unlocked. I am switching from Verizon and just want to make sure.
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Can someone who has the S3 with AT&T confirm the bootloader is unlocked. I am switching from Verizon and just want to make sure.
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The bootloader is unlocked. I have Sprint but take my word on it, it's unlocked.
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The bootloader is unlocked. I have Sprint but take my word on it, it's unlocked.
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I believe you and thanks. I am talking with a AT&T sales rep who said he knows what a bootloader is, but he is telling me it's locked. I don't have the S3 in my hands yet, but is there a way to check?
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I believe you and thanks. I am talking with a AT&T sales rep who said he knows what a bootloader is, but he is telling me it's locked. I don't have the S3 in my hands yet, but is there a way to check?
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He can say the sky is purple it does not matter. The AT&T Galaxy S3 has an UNLOCKED bootloader. People already told you. If you don't believe them then stop asking.
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Will the note run on the sprint network if i buy one unlocked? It shows it runs on their frequency but i have never bought a phone unlocked and tried to get it on a network that does not carry that phone in their line up. Will it work with sprint network? I want it bad but want to make sure before i get one. Im in love with that bad boy. Anyone with better tech knowledge than me please let me know
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If it's not Sprint branded they won't activate it.
That fn sucks
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Will the note run on the sprint network if i buy one unlocked? It shows it runs on their frequency but i have never bought a phone unlocked and tried to get it on a network that does not carry that phone in their line up. Will it work with sprint network? I want it bad but want to make sure before i get one. Im in love with that bad boy. Anyone with better tech knowledge than me please let me know
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Runs on their frequency but not on CDMA the unlocked phone is GSM only (att; tmob) so yeah, can't use it at all. Quite the shame, I would love to get me a Note.
lchupacabras said:
Runs on their frequency but not on CDMA the unlocked phone is GSM only (att; tmob) so yeah, can't use it at all. Quite the shame, I would love to get me a Note.
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So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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If the gms is the same as in the states, yep...
I think you're lost...wrong forum
Jaquarry said:
If it's not Sprint branded they won't activate it.
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Found that out the hard way a long time ago
Tmobile has changed a lot, they are just flat turning into thieves with a business license now. Never switch to a carrier just for the devices they can run, that is just plain not smart, at all.
I am not trying to be offensive, I do have your best interest in mind. With how fast devices are pushed out, there will be one that is better and what you want in 6 months time. So it doesn't make sense to move to a carrier for the phones. You will just get yourself locked into some contract that (Tmobile especially) keeps updating to strip more freedom and cost to to you.
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So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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Double check on the actual bands it supports; 3G especially considering the fact that tmob uses their own 3G unlike most other GSM carriers.
Aka it should work fine... BUT it might be stuck on EDGE at all times. Not cool.
First order of business.....
please unlock bootloader with working 4g.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/weve-acquired-motorola-mobility.html?m=1
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Hmm, so what will be next? They must have a big plan. I can't wait for some news.
Sounds like definitely plan to start making their own phones. Come on Motorola nexus!!!!!!
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I hope something big and new. Why else, buy it.
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Amen, brothers! Praise Larry & Sergey!
My Photon is now officially pulled from eBay (for at least a few days) just in case Google decides to earn our love & loyalty forever by unlocking our bootloaders ASAP
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valentinoh said:
I hope something big and new. Why else, buy it.
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access to patents to tell Apple and M$ to suck it.
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cornelious2 said:
access to patents to tell Apple and M$ to suck it.
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You would be absoutly correct, Google and Larry Page could care less about Motorola or a cell phone. What they do care about is the 6000 (or is it 16,000?) patents that Motorola owns! Right now, Apple is sueing everyone for infringements, thats getting read to change real fast!!!
I dont know if you guys know this, Motorola was around L-O-N-G before Sammy, HTC, Apple, Noika, all of them. They held all these patents but never really enforced them for whatever reason. If you remember, Apple went after Motorola with its Lawyer Goons with this Paten crap. I guess Motorola did not have the balls to fight, but Larry Page has bigger Goons! F**k, motorola has patent on the old bag phone of the late 80's! So if they every come back........
Correct - this is all about now owning patents.
Means little or nothing about current phones.
bitbang3r said:
Amen, brothers! Praise Larry & Sergey!
My Photon is now officially pulled from eBay (for at least a few days) just in case Google decides to earn our love & loyalty forever by unlocking our bootloaders ASAP
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lol
by field testing a new bootloader or at the very least a new bootloader unlock tool? cuz im sure that wont take a few months to pass carrier testing etc...
valentinoh said:
First order of business.....
please unlock bootloader with working 4g.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/weve-acquired-motorola-mobility.html?m=1
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i couldn't agree with you more. i am really looking forward to having ics... either by update of by unlocked bootloader and flashing cm9
#ICS-lessMotorolaElectrify, ThanksMotorolaForYourIgnorance
yeah
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lol
by field testing a new bootloader or at the very least a new bootloader unlock tool? cuz im sure that wont take a few months to pass carrier testing etc...
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yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
redninja007 said:
yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
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Boost?
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redninja007 said:
yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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Does that include Virgin Mobile? Haven't heard of a successful swap to that yet.
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Does that include Virgin Mobile? Haven't heard of a successful swap to that yet.
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I guess that could be real possible. If I remember right they use Sprint's towers.
My MoPho's in the kitchen sink!!
I hope I'm wrong but I really doubt this will affect prior devices like the Photon, Atrix, etc.
I can imagine future devices having prompt updates, perhaps vanilla android, but seems unlikely they'd suddenly decide to move the ICS Q4 update to sooner out of the bottom of their hearts.
Guys, here is the most informative article I have read on the subject from AndroidPolice. This guy is a Law Student in California and explains the good and the bad of the marriage. Enjoy!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-look-back-at-the-deal-and-what-happens-next/
seems unlikely they'd suddenly decide to move the ICS Q4 update to sooner out of the bottom of their hearts.
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Expecting ICS sooner is unrealistic. Expecting unlocked bootloaders for existing phones so we can do it ourselves is another matter entirely.
As far as carrier approval goes, remember that there's a fundamental difference culturally between Motorola and Google. Motorola wouldn't even contemplate releasing an unlocker unless the carriers demanded and paid for it. Google will have its lawyers read the sales & maintenance contract it has with the carriers, and do it anyway as long as there's no clause in that contract explicitly prohibiting them from doing it.
In practical terms, that probably means Sprint and T-Mobile will have official unlockers within weeks, and AT&T & Verizon will never get them. However, I'll bet there will be some VERY interesting tidbits of info in the Sprint unlockers that might prove useful to someone at XDA trying to write one for a Verizon phone... ;-)
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Guys, here is the most informative article I have read on the subject from AndroidPolice. This guy is a Law Student in California and explains the good and the bad of the marriage. Enjoy!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-look-back-at-the-deal-and-what-happens-next/
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as long add they unlock my bootloader so i can have a blurless ics rom i think id be pretty dang happy at least until jellybean comes out lol
#ICS-lessMotorolaElectrify, ThanksMotorolaForYourIgnorance
tnx
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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tnx for the info... im going to look into it i still have 6 months before my contract with sprint will end.so i still have a lot of time to figure this out
What exactly does this mean for us and rooting? The law seems extremely vague. Any answer would be greatly appreciated
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What exactly does this mean for us and rooting? The law seems extremely vague. Any answer would be greatly appreciated
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Your post is extremely vague also. I have no idea what you're even asking
Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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Your post is extremely vague also. I have no idea what you're even asking
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Read some news. Its all over everything unless you happen to know of another law kicking into gear on the 26th.
duarian said:
Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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Thanks for the response. The wording is just so... Special its hard to make heads or tails of it.
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duarian said:
Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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Please elaborate, what the **** is wrong with those bastards? I bought my device and I do whatever I want with it.
Fidelator said:
Please elaborate, what the **** is wrong with those bastards? I bought my device and I do whatever I want with it.
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And you still can but what this prevents you from doing is unlocking your phone and walking over to competing mobile provider B. and activating a phone with them that was originally only meant to work on mobile provider A. This is actually a good thing for Google.
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And you still can but what this prevents you from doing is unlocking your phone and walking over to competing mobile provider B. and activating a phone with them that was originally only meant to work on mobile provider A. This is actually a good thing for Google.
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Actually this is just made to screw us customers and to help huge corporations in their never ending quest to get more money off us.
If someone buys a phone with a provider and switches it's because said provider didn't fit the needs of the customer needs, having choices is not bad at all.
The damn government is full of selfish bastards that just care about filling their pockets with bribes, this clearly doesn't help anyone.
Big Brother is not going to beat your door down because you unlocked your phone. Sorry if I ruin anyones day by posting that but unless you run a business doing that I wouldn't even sweat over it
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Big Brother is not going to beat your door down because you unlocked your phone. Sorry if I ruin anyones day by posting that but unless you run a business doing that I wouldn't even sweat over it
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The Galaxy unlock apps from the store might be banned and if we aren't lucky all of the *unlock your device* threads here in XDA will be gone too.
Here is an article and snippet that mentions tablets:
"Digital Millennium Copyright Act will make it illegal to jailbreak and unlock phones. According to the act, it is illegal to unlock both tablets and phones without permission from your wireless provider. ... Unfortunately, that window closes on Saturday, January 26th."
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/dmca-law-to-make-unlocking-phones-illegal-after-january-26th/
Of course any tablet without cell network connectivity or purchased from a cell provider is exempt.
so does this leave cyanogen mod in a tight spot? or can we still swap roms and stick with the current carrier?
I don't live in the US but it infuriates me when the government screws the people it's supposed to protect.
I sure hope none of you guys votes for the fags who passed this.
I agree it's a crock. Do we purchase the phone/tablet or rent it? If we are truly purchasing the phone then all they SHOULD be able to do is void our warranty.
This has nothing to do with rooting your phone or switching roms. The interpretation of the law is saying that you cannot take (for example) an AT&T phone that you bought on contract and unlock it to run on T-mobile without AT&T's permission. If you cancel your contract or it is up, AT&T says they will give you the unlock then.
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This has nothing to do with rooting your phone or switching roms. The interpretation of the law is saying that you cannot take (for example) an AT&T phone that you bought on contract and unlock it to run on T-mobile without AT&T's permission. If you cancel your contract or it is up, AT&T says they will give you the unlock then.
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Exactly.. It's not unfair, the `man' isn't holding you down and it's definitely not aliens..
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Exactly.. It's not unfair, the `man' isn't holding you down and it's definitely not aliens..
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Wasn't really worried about them holding me down... was more of a question of what is allowed and isn't... damn wording is so vague... i prefer the cyanogen roms... typically run much better than stock.
As long as i can still do that... i am happy.
Never know an alien could have provided blueprints for your phone
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Dont think it'll be enforced
I honestly dont think this law will be enforced.
Here in South Africa its illegal for the cellphone providers to lock the phones to the network. I guess lucky us.
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The provider sates "purchasing" the phone, and we all sign contracts with stated penalties for early termination. So basically they were able to convince the gov't to make a law to change the contract we already had with the provider.
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This isnt talking about rooting your phone, it is about unlocking which network it can be connected to. There are probably less than 1% of people in the US who ever unlock their phone to move them to a different carrier. Everyone in the US buys a new phone with a new contract, and most of the pay as you go stuff is unlocked anyway since you have to enter the APN info yourself or have a service rep do it.
The law itself is retarded and unneeded, and also shouldnt be within the realm of what government is allowed to say you can or cant do. But really it makes not one bit of different to just about anyone.
Anyone heard about this? Any thoughts?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/01/24/unlocked-cell-phones-will-be-illegal-in-us/
It's my phone. I'll do what I want with it. If they have a problem with that then they can come knock on my door. Trying to regulate this is a lost cause.
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Anyone heard about this? Any thoughts?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/01/24/unlocked-cell-phones-will-be-illegal-in-us/
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From the way that I understand it, anyone who pays full price or fulfills their contract will be able to unlock the phone. Subsidized phones that are still within the terms of the subsidy are the ones affected (which at this time will include virtually all AT&T LGOG users).
johnbyebye said:
It's my phone. I'll do what I want with it. If they have a problem with that then they can come knock on my door. Trying to regulate this is a lost cause.
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^this.
Currently on a unlocked LGOG with T-Mobile
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^this.
Currently on a unlocked LGOG with T-Mobile
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yo man so.... hsdpa/+ does it work on tmobile? are you on edge? did you flash another radio?or are you using the 1900mhz band?, i have many questions.
It's illegal to buy an unlock code. People with a carrier, such as AT&T, carrier and have owned the device for 30+ days can get the code legally from said carrier. I'm all for this, though. Makes it all the more pointless for people to steal devices.
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It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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Dubbsy said:
Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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+1. And yes locked bootloader sucks the big ones
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warchyld77 said:
It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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In most places Verizon has the best service. While traveling your less likely to experience drops with Verizon. AT&T also locked their bootloader. I'm not a Verizon fan but if I'm going to have a cell phone I'd like to have service wherever I go.
We are just a few little steps away from a functioning SafeStrap, so you can root, debloat and run custom ROMs. We just cant unlock the bootloader or run custom kernels yet.
««I used to be a Serial Flasher...now I'm just a Cereal Flasher.»»
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Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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agreed
I switched to verizon from att and got this phone even with the bootloader locked its fine just a minor annoience hopefully they will unlock it at some point.
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We are just a few little steps away from a functioning SafeStrap, so you can root, debloat and run custom ROMs. We just cant unlock the bootloader or run custom kernels yet.
««I used to be a Serial Flasher...now I'm just a Cereal Flasher.»»
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Not hating on SS because it's a valuable tool for those who can't do it other ways. But you certainly are not debloating anything by leaving a full stock install in a "safe partition" and then running your choice of other ROMs.
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Can someone explain to me the benefits of an unlocked bootloader? Custom ROMs have been a pleasure to run, but I guess a free bootloader adds to it?
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I love this phone long time.
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warchyld77 said:
It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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Agreed. I just switched to Verizon from Sprint and fortunately I'm on MDK but I'm not down with these policies going forward. For the locations I spend 99.9 percent of my time in, T mobile has nearly equal coverage and fewer dropped calls in my area. I'll be migrating to T mobile at the end of my contract on in the event I hose my phone and can't stomach being on ME7.
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Not hating on SS because it's a valuable tool for those who can't do it other ways. But you certainly are not debloating anything by leaving a full stock install in a "safe partition" and then running your choice of other ROMs.
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True, but with root can't you pretty significantly debloat the "safe" partition?
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I will never talk bad about guys like Hashcode! Dudes like this make it possible to truly have control of your phone! What gets me is so many others just abandoned ship and moved on. I can't wait for my S4 to be good again
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I wish I never signed up with Verizon. After my two years I'm going back to tmobile they got unlimited data plan and all cheap.
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Locking phones down is the norm now...I chose carrier by coverage and signal. If im lucky to have a phone I can root and customize..I consider tht an added plus
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Locking phones down is the norm now...I chose carrier by coverage and signal. If im lucky to have a phone I can root and customize..I consider tht an added plus
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I don't know about "the norm." But I do agree that coverage and signal are most important and fortunately VZW isn't the only game in town with decent coverage. However, I've been modding phones since 11/2007 and it's something I enjoy. I'll be dammed if I stick with a carrier who aims to prevent me from enjoying one of my hobbies.
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True, but with root can't you pretty significantly debloat the "safe" partition?
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With root you can debloat the stock install and move data apps to system to save previous data space.
But im unsure as to how much you can do to your safe partition with SS because it's intended to be your safety net when you screw up.
warchyld77 said:
I will never talk bad about guys like Hashcode! Dudes like this make it possible to truly have control of your phone! What gets me is so many others just abandoned ship and moved on. I can't wait for my S4 to be good again
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I wasnt talking bad. If you think I was you need your head examined. I personally don't want to use it but I feel it's an extremely valuable tool for many.
I only won't use it because I don't want or need a safety net. Id rather use that space myself. And since I am on mdk I have that option.
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warchyld77 said:
It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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I hate the lock too
I love my S4 personally, but that's because I got it early when the Loki exploit worked. I don't like Verizon, though, but I'm on a plan with my parents still so I can't complain since I'm not paying. I plan on switching to T-Mobile and staying off-contract after I leave my parents' plan.
It is my opinion that the locked bootloaders showing up amongst carriers is a result of people bricking their phones and returning them for warranty replacement. I think the locked bootloaders make that much more difficult to do on accident. It is not difficult to see that carriers monitor XDA and see what people do.
I AGREE...
kennyglass123 said:
It is my opinion that the locked bootloaders showing up amongst carriers is a result of people bricking their phones and returning them for warranty replacement. I think the locked bootloaders make that much more difficult to do on accident. It is not difficult to see that carriers monitor XDA and see what people do.
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I agree 100%!