It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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Dubbsy said:
Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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+1. And yes locked bootloader sucks the big ones
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It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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In most places Verizon has the best service. While traveling your less likely to experience drops with Verizon. AT&T also locked their bootloader. I'm not a Verizon fan but if I'm going to have a cell phone I'd like to have service wherever I go.
We are just a few little steps away from a functioning SafeStrap, so you can root, debloat and run custom ROMs. We just cant unlock the bootloader or run custom kernels yet.
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Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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agreed
I switched to verizon from att and got this phone even with the bootloader locked its fine just a minor annoience hopefully they will unlock it at some point.
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We are just a few little steps away from a functioning SafeStrap, so you can root, debloat and run custom ROMs. We just cant unlock the bootloader or run custom kernels yet.
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Not hating on SS because it's a valuable tool for those who can't do it other ways. But you certainly are not debloating anything by leaving a full stock install in a "safe partition" and then running your choice of other ROMs.
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Can someone explain to me the benefits of an unlocked bootloader? Custom ROMs have been a pleasure to run, but I guess a free bootloader adds to it?
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It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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Agreed. I just switched to Verizon from Sprint and fortunately I'm on MDK but I'm not down with these policies going forward. For the locations I spend 99.9 percent of my time in, T mobile has nearly equal coverage and fewer dropped calls in my area. I'll be migrating to T mobile at the end of my contract on in the event I hose my phone and can't stomach being on ME7.
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Not hating on SS because it's a valuable tool for those who can't do it other ways. But you certainly are not debloating anything by leaving a full stock install in a "safe partition" and then running your choice of other ROMs.
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True, but with root can't you pretty significantly debloat the "safe" partition?
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I will never talk bad about guys like Hashcode! Dudes like this make it possible to truly have control of your phone! What gets me is so many others just abandoned ship and moved on. I can't wait for my S4 to be good again
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I wish I never signed up with Verizon. After my two years I'm going back to tmobile they got unlimited data plan and all cheap.
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Locking phones down is the norm now...I chose carrier by coverage and signal. If im lucky to have a phone I can root and customize..I consider tht an added plus
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Locking phones down is the norm now...I chose carrier by coverage and signal. If im lucky to have a phone I can root and customize..I consider tht an added plus
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I don't know about "the norm." But I do agree that coverage and signal are most important and fortunately VZW isn't the only game in town with decent coverage. However, I've been modding phones since 11/2007 and it's something I enjoy. I'll be dammed if I stick with a carrier who aims to prevent me from enjoying one of my hobbies.
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True, but with root can't you pretty significantly debloat the "safe" partition?
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With root you can debloat the stock install and move data apps to system to save previous data space.
But im unsure as to how much you can do to your safe partition with SS because it's intended to be your safety net when you screw up.
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I will never talk bad about guys like Hashcode! Dudes like this make it possible to truly have control of your phone! What gets me is so many others just abandoned ship and moved on. I can't wait for my S4 to be good again
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I wasnt talking bad. If you think I was you need your head examined. I personally don't want to use it but I feel it's an extremely valuable tool for many.
I only won't use it because I don't want or need a safety net. Id rather use that space myself. And since I am on mdk I have that option.
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warchyld77 said:
It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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I hate the lock too
I love my S4 personally, but that's because I got it early when the Loki exploit worked. I don't like Verizon, though, but I'm on a plan with my parents still so I can't complain since I'm not paying. I plan on switching to T-Mobile and staying off-contract after I leave my parents' plan.
It is my opinion that the locked bootloaders showing up amongst carriers is a result of people bricking their phones and returning them for warranty replacement. I think the locked bootloaders make that much more difficult to do on accident. It is not difficult to see that carriers monitor XDA and see what people do.
I AGREE...
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It is my opinion that the locked bootloaders showing up amongst carriers is a result of people bricking their phones and returning them for warranty replacement. I think the locked bootloaders make that much more difficult to do on accident. It is not difficult to see that carriers monitor XDA and see what people do.
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I agree 100%!
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Both AT&T and Verizon appear to be equal in almost every aspect in my area( Coverage, cost of the plan I need, subsidized phone cost), so that leaves the 1 question that really matters:
Which is easier both to root, and even more importantly, unroot to the point I can still use my warranty?
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Both AT&T and Verizon appear to be equal in almost every aspect in my area( Coverage, cost of the plan I need, subsidized phone cost), so that leaves the 1 question that really matters:
Which is easier both to root, and even more importantly, unroot to the point I can still use my warranty?
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As of right now there seemed to be no root for the Verizon version.
It's a cake walk for the At&t GS3
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It's a cake walk for the At&t GS3
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I know you can root without tripping the counter, but I thought roms still did. Am I wrong?
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I know you can root without tripping the counter, but I thought roms still did. Am I wrong?
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Flashing ROMs will not trip the counter...anything flashed thru CWM won't trip it. ODIN does...someone please correct me if I'm wrong..pretty sure I'm right tho.
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Flashing ROMs will not trip the counter...anything flashed thru CWM won't trip it. ODIN does...someone please correct me if I'm wrong..pretty sure I'm right tho.
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AWESOME! Now, it just needs to get easier(perhaps a one click solution or one done entirely from the phone). Hopefully by the time I get it mid august it'll be easier. The only pain in the ass is that, currently, it requires windows, does it not?
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AWESOME! Now, it just needs to get easier(perhaps a one click solution or one done entirely from the phone). Hopefully by the time I get it mid august it'll be easier. The only pain in the ass is that, currently, it requires windows, does it not?
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Windows? After you actually have the phone in your hand and have read and searched the forums, let us know how things are going. Happy to help with the basics.
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Windows? After you actually have the phone in your hand and have read and searched the forums, let us know how things are going. Happy to help with the basics.
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Microsoft Windows, the os. It is required to do the no trip counter method right? I ask because I use linux full time.
Verizon has a locked boot loader and doesn't have Sims
Att (correct me if I'm wrong ) has ****ty lte coverage
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Verizon has a locked boot loader and doesn't have Sims
Att (correct me if I'm wrong ) has ****ty lte coverage
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Well, in an area where my options are 'not LTE with Verizon' and 'Not LTE, but at least HSPA+ with AT&T' AND Verizon proceeds to lock the bootloader... I'm dropping Verizon after 6 years!
Think about it Verizon has a fast roll out of lte
Also after you've been a customer for a while you get special benefits
I know on sprint when I can't pay the bill on time I can just call and ask for a extension of about a week or so
This way my cell still has network access
As much as I like to pay my bills on time some times I can't and this helps
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Think about it Verizon has a fast roll out of lte
Also after you've been a customer for a while you get special benefits
I know on sprint when I can't pay the bill on time I can just call and ask for a extension of about a week or so
This way my cell still has network access
As much as I like to pay my bills on time some times I can't and this helps
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At&t has stretched my payment date by over two weeks before...as long as I make the promised payment they will do it every month and won't even charge me a late fee...
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The thing is you were on the carrier for a while
I heard that they don't do this to new customers
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The thing is you were on the carrier for a while
I heard that they don't do this to new customers
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And even if they didn't, I plan to pay 6-10 months at once with student loans.
I wouldn't even consider Verizon with this whole bootloader issue. I say AT&T.
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I wouldn't even consider Verizon with this whole bootloader issue. I say AT&T.
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I've concluded the same as well, but do I get a 2 yr contract, or buy the device outright and do $45/mo on straight talk?
Can someone who has the S3 with AT&T confirm the bootloader is unlocked. I am switching from Verizon and just want to make sure.
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Can someone who has the S3 with AT&T confirm the bootloader is unlocked. I am switching from Verizon and just want to make sure.
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The bootloader is unlocked. I have Sprint but take my word on it, it's unlocked.
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The bootloader is unlocked. I have Sprint but take my word on it, it's unlocked.
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I believe you and thanks. I am talking with a AT&T sales rep who said he knows what a bootloader is, but he is telling me it's locked. I don't have the S3 in my hands yet, but is there a way to check?
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I believe you and thanks. I am talking with a AT&T sales rep who said he knows what a bootloader is, but he is telling me it's locked. I don't have the S3 in my hands yet, but is there a way to check?
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He can say the sky is purple it does not matter. The AT&T Galaxy S3 has an UNLOCKED bootloader. People already told you. If you don't believe them then stop asking.
Anyone,
I'm not an android noob, but I left Android a few years back (2.3.3 / 2.3.4) due to work changing to iPhones for data encryption reasons. I came back to Android when more Samsung phones started supporting ODE (on device encryption). I would like to root my phone and have done so on other Android phone's using SuperOneClick, CWM, etc.
I am reading that there is a secure boot loader on the AT&T version of this phone in USA, so I am screwed in gaining root access to the device? I'd really like to delete all this bull**** bloatware they've installed... and a tethering app without using the carrier option.
Can anyone help?
I have the AT&T version as well. I'm not 100% sure that the bootloader is the reason for no root yet. Other phones have locked bootloaders and can still be rooted.
Running custom roms might be another story. I get the impression that because this is not a "mainstream" phone that it does not get top priority. For example, the Moto X on AT&T has a locked bootloader and that's rooted already, but it's a very popular phone.
Hopefully we'll get some love sooner rather than later. I would be happy with root along with an easy way to go back to stock.
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Anyone,
I'm not an android noob, but I left Android a few years back (2.3.3 / 2.3.4) due to work changing to iPhones for data encryption reasons. I came back to Android when more Samsung phones started supporting ODE (on device encryption). I would like to root my phone and have done so on other Android phone's using SuperOneClick, CWM, etc.
I am reading that there is a secure boot loader on the AT&T version of this phone in USA, so I am screwed in gaining root access to the device? I'd really like to delete all this bull**** bloatware they've installed... and a tethering app without using the carrier option.
Can anyone help?
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No boot loader unlock, no root, so no custom ROMs as yet.
Be patient.
Mybe kernel needs to rebuild for the i527
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Mybe kernel needs to rebuild for the i527
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Don't understand!
For the s4 they rebuilded the kernel for the bootload to work
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For the s4 they rebuilded the kernel for the bootload to work
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Ok got it.
Root Mega 6.3 AT&T sgh-i527
There is root for Mega 6.3 i527 (not through odin yet) however use this link or thread topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46790725#post46790725 under Root Bounty For The I527 on xda. Hope this helps you if you haven't already seen this thread on here.
I have a unlocked AT&T version. Im currently using straight talk with 4g but it works with tmobile as well.
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PhilupBlunts said:
I have a unlocked AT&T version. Im currently using straight talk with 4g but it works with tmobile as well.
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It sure does and on the LTE bands
pa49 said:
It sure does and on the LTE bands
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Got mine yesterday and unlocked today and have 4g lte plus hspa all day long.... !!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn't getting 4g/LTE at first but getting it in areas I wasn't getting 4g!!!
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shynn27 said:
I wasn't getting 4g/LTE at first but getting it in areas I wasn't getting 4g!!!
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Are you on Straight Talk?
No tmobile
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No tmobile
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I purchased the Straight Talk kit yesterday and you have the option of use Tmobile or AT&T by switching the sim card. if your bill it too high try Straight Talk.
Thx I thought about it but have 2 phones my second one is a s blaze but not unlocked so that person would lose out on service which is needed.
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It sure does and on the LTE bands
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Oh I didn't know it would with T-Mobile LTE bands. awesome.
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Do u get phone insurance on straight talk
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Do u get phone insurance on straight talk
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I dont know I always purchase my phones factory unlocked on ebay or Craigslist never actually from straight talk. I don't believe they offer it
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I have a unlocked AT&T version. Im currently using straight talk with 4g but it works with tmobile as well.
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Does straight talk get lte on the at&t galaxy mega and is the upload and download speeds fast ? I have mines unlocked and wanted to know if I should jump ship from at&t and save money and go with straight talk?
I don't get it, I keep setting people asking questions in here about international use when they obviously got it with no intention of ever using it on Verizon, what makes this phone so great that foreigners and even people on other us carriers get it instead of the s4 that's meant for them?
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Because they are crazy, cause we are locked down tighter then a baby pig sucking tit in the mourning b4 eating slop in a farm ..... Lucky I have mdk Im pretty pleased with this phone , but if I was them I would maybe buy the phone from a carrier with not such a locked down bootloader
hyperdrive powered s4
probably because verizon has one of the biggest customer base and best service whitch means more phones to be able to buy used on ebay and what not that is just what i think...and i think verizon enabled international on the note 2 and now s4 not sure about the n3 but not sure if other carriers have that option or if it is a gsm cdma difference.. or what or international carriers can only use vzw baseband
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I don't get it, I keep setting people asking questions in here about international use when they obviously got it with no intention of ever using it on Verizon, what makes this phone so great that foreigners and even people on other us carriers get it instead of the s4 that's meant for them?
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Verizon comes unlocked default and uses a cdma network + sim card
Which means it can be used on other cdma carriers around the world+gsm carriers
No other variants of gs4 can do this
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we are locked down tighter then a baby pig sucking tit in the mourning b4 eating slop in a farm
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Verizon comes unlocked default and uses a cdma network + sim card
Which means it can be used on other cdma carriers around the world+gsm carriers
No other variants of gs4 can do this
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Sounds reasonable, but I didn't know there were foreign CDMA carriers
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I have been hearing around the xda community that this wonderful device will be joining the blacklisted devices over at at&t and Verizon. I am referring to the bootloader. Any good news out there?
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Oops. Does this belong in questions and answers ?
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Yes it does go in Q&A.
There are working models at best buy. I'm not 100% sure how you would check...probably just boot into the bootloader and see what it says.
The T-Mobile version boot loader is usually unlocked.
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Think we will have to wait and see really.
Not sure when pre orders will ship, but we should be able to find out April 11th
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I'm not buying until I know for sure. Even then I might go with HTC since KNOX Security sucks.
I'm gonna tell T-Mobile as soon as I get mine that everything's working fine, don't want a replacement, but note that knox was already tripped when I got it. Ha ha
Not sure how they can dispute that later for warranty issues.
Even though I'm probably not going to root it or anything for a while.
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T-Mobile WILL have LOCKED BL
Guys here
This time around it looks like AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile will have S5 with locked bootloader. (Only Sprint's S5 will have unlocked BL).
1. AT&T started with S4 and continued the tradition there after (G2, N3 etc.) (Also no dev edition AFAIK)
2. T-Mobile started with LG G Flex and looks like it will continue the tradition with S5. (Source) (Also no dev edition AFAIK)
3. Verizon started who knows when? (At least verizon is nice enough to have Dev edition, albeit expensive as hell).
What does all this mean?
Well you can't have "traditional" custom recovery so that means NO ASOP, NO custom Kernels etc.
You can have a recovery called "Safestrap" which will allow you to flash only TW based ROMs and simple MODs such as bootanimations but nothing more.
That is possible.
Not a confirmation that the T-Mobile variant with be locked though.
With the most recent update to the s4 they could have made it locked but they didn't as far as I can tell. Just has knox on it.
Still will need to wait and see I guess.
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coming from a you s4
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Yup. I like the idea of a faster processor. Even if marginal. The finger print reader and water resistance.
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Everyone knows development only really takes off after about 6 months to a year. Give the devs time to crack the possible locked bootloader.
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Everyone knows development only really takes off after about 6 months to a year. Give the devs time to crack the possible locked bootloader.
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Lol. Look at AT&T's N3 forum
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Lol. Look at AT&T's N3 forum
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Or anyone who has taken the S4 MF3 or later updates...safestrap only. I dont know why ppl do OTA's these days its never anything to help us only to hinder us.
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I got a tmobile s4 and note 3 both with updated 4.4.2 bootloaders and they are not locked. what att do or verizon has nothing to go with tmobile. as far as the lg flex that was lg decision not tmobile as they are all locked. knox has nothing to do with a locked bootloader. I do not see tmobile locking the bootloader
Tmobile decided to lock z1s bootloader. Trend is pointing in the wrong direction if you ask me. Hopefully they don't lock it.
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chrisram88 said:
Tmobile decided to lock z1s bootloader. Trend is pointing in the wrong direction if you ask me. Hopefully they don't lock it.
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T-Mobile made Alcatel lock the OneTouch Fierce and they'll do it some more apparently.
T-Mobile Secure Lock.
Haven't seen that on any device so far and the article is almost a year old.
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Haven't seen that on any device so far and the article is almost a year old.
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Alcatel OneTouch line are because of Secure Lock, and are still modern phones they are selling. You have the burden of proof on your hands. I for one wouldn't buy a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5 before knowing 100% it's unlocked or unlockable. Besides... the Note 3 is still unlocked and quite a comparable device!
We'll see in a few weeks.
Hi. I am doing some research for a friend, if he rooted he's note 3 for sprint, could it be used in Verizon or any other carriers..?!
Thanks.
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Blanko6 said:
Hi. I am doing some research for a friend, if he rooted he's note 3 for sprint, could it be used in Verizon or any other carriers..?!
Thanks.
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If he got it internationally unlocked and followed a thread here he could use it for att and tmobile.... vzw won't let other carriers phones on their system just like sprint won't ... it can be flashed to cricket and a couple others but mostly I guess there is no way for him to get it unlocked because sprint has to do it and the phone has to be on a account in good standing etc
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I highly doubt it. The least fuss way is to buy a phone for the carrier you plan on using it for. If it is possible, you'll get better network performance if you buy a phone for the specific carrier you're planning on using. I've seen this same question with so many phones over the years, it isn't even funny. You're not going to easily try and save a few bucks by thinking you can buy a phone for a different carrier and be able to easily port it over. You'll end up wasting lots of money for futile hopes. People think everything is interchangeable, it isn't.