New MHL and USB OTG issue - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've got a new MHL cable and a USB OTG cable in the hope I could plug my MHL into the SGS3, use a powered USB hub connected to the Micro USB(as this requires independent power) on the MHL and then connect a keyboard and mouse into the USB hub, then connect the HDMI to the TV.
For me it doesn't work. I thought this was the whole reason they changed the MHL cable to the new type. Can anyone else confirm?
Logicalstep

Logicalstep said:
I've got a new MHL cable and a USB OTG cable in the hope I could plug my MHL into the SGS3, use a powered USB hub connected to the Micro USB(as this requires independent power) on the MHL and then connect a keyboard and mouse into the USB hub, then connect the HDMI to the TV.
For me it doesn't work. I thought this was the whole reason they changed the MHL cable to the new type. Can anyone else confirm?
Logicalstep
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I dont think Hub will work on the phone, I am not sure....
Anyway GS2 MHL no longer will work on SGS3, Samsung has released seperate MHL for SGS3, which are available in the Market,
I bought it and tested, working fine for me...

ZACQ8 said:
I dont think Hub will work on the phone, I am not sure....
Anyway GS2 MHL no longer will work on SGS3, Samsung has released seperate MHL for SGS3, which are available in the Market,
I bought it and tested, working fine for me...
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i am planning to get the MHL for S3, if i connect it to the TV, are usb drivers needed in order for it to function properly?
thanks in advance

use a powered USB hub connected to the Micro USB(as this requires independent power)
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Afaik the S3's MHL-Adapter is self-powered and does no longer rely on an external power source to operate. (Hooray!)
if i connect it to the TV, are usb drivers needed in order for it to function properly?
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No, that's a pure HDMI adapter and thus Plug&Pray
Make sure to get a MHL adapter for the S3, the adapters for the S2 and other devices are not compatible to the new pin layout.

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[Q] MHL cable compatability?

I just found a MHL cable for the SGS2 on Amazon with Micro-USB to HDMI.
I have a Samsung HDTV bought about a year ago. Now i know that MHL means you can charge as well as view the phone stuff on the screen but MHL TVs have not released yet (i think, and even if they have i wont be getting one anytime soon).
So my question is can i still see the TV out if i use the MHL cable on my older TV? I know it definitely wont charge.
Anyone?? :S
yes you can.
all you need is the adapter from MHL (micro-USB) to HDMI, connect the HDMI to the TV and you are good to go.
the advantage of the original samsung adapter is the ability to connect a power cable to the adaptor and charge the phone while it transmits the picture to the TV.
hope i helped
Thanks mate
For anyone confused, an MHL cable is a Micro USB to HDMI cable - no ifs, no buts, this will transmit HDMI from a compatible MHL port. Nothing else needed (except I believe it must also be connected to power)
Your micro USB port on the bottom of your SGS2 is an MHL/USB port, and will therefore work.
Important to note is that not all micro USB ports are also MHL ports, therefore will not necessarily work on some other micro USB port on a different phone.

[Q] MHL cable and OTG cable

If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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anyone?
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According to some of wikipedia entries it should be possible to use mhl and usb otg at the same time with a 11-pin mhl-hdmi adapter.
Wikipedia said:
11-pin MHL-USB Connector
The Samsung Galaxy S III uses a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-USB connector, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously (note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB-OTG port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III can power the MHL-HDMI adapter. Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
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Here you go.
So, it should work. But I couldnt make it work at the moment
I also got one of these 11-pin connectors and like it seems only the S3 has these adapters, so why the **** doesnt it work?? :/
I already asked sammy on facebook, just wondering what they will answer^^
Hopefully we will have some pos. results, dude.
cheers
bordikun said:
If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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How would that work since the micro USB connection on the mhl cable is for power / charger?
In those YouTube videos is it possible that they have the mhl cable connected to the TV and power source, and the keyboard and mouse connected wirelessly via Bluetooth?
Confused because you said USB Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. From what I know they aren't USB.
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Samsung should eventually release a dock to use both so unless someone figures it out first you'll just have to wait, because if it just took an 11 pin USB cable someone would have got it working already and we'd know about it, so I reckon it might have some extra circuitry to make it recognised by the phone.
Guys, as I already posted, the connector has 11 pins, so it should be possible to use OTG and MHL features at the same time. thats the only reason sammy brought out this connector and also cause of incompability with the 5-pin connector.
So they should bring the f*ck out somethin for the phone that activates this feature.
And a big problem I have with my mhl-connector is that I cant configure the output
on my 2 TVs at home I get 1080i, (both only 1080i capable), but the picture is kinda oversized so I cant see 100% percent of the picture, only 90% or smt like this.
But the funny part is, that I get on my 1680x1050p PC monitor only 576p screen, what actually sucks So it would be awesome if I could choose the resolution I want to have. But I guess its a thing of the connector (maybe it choose the resolutions iself).
cheers
so the one in the videos using keyboard and mouse are bluetooth thru phone?
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I am SO HARD waiting for THAT "DOCK" hopefully will came out any day soon.
They should do iut fast. I'm waiting so hard for everything get connected with my Phone. It will be awsome if I don't need my Pc anymore.
To use the MHL cable you must have power connected to the adapter.
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bordikun said:
If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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That's damn funny because I have wanted to know whether that would work as well, lol.
Did seriously consider trying but as I was on holiday if they broke, I wouldn't be able to get replacement so didn't try it.
In theory I would think it could work, but only if you could somehow wire in power to the hdmi adapter as it appears to need that to run the hdmi aswell as provide power to the phone, at least enough that once the usb adapter tries to demand power to run it isn't enough for the phone to output.
As to whether this is just a a stupid guess and assumption of how the devices and being a noob, I don't know.
If you can get a micro female to male adapter with a usb splitter for power then technically I can't see why it wouldn't work if the limitations are physical as oppose to software based (whole other issue I have no clue about).
EDIT: Wow, when I started that post no one had replied, err, seems a little redundant now, lol. My bad. Also, this 5 minute wait to point this out, have seemed really long...
guess we'll have to wait for that dock.
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Connecting S3 to TV and using USB OTG simultaneously

Is it possible to connect an unrooted S3 to a TV via MHL and also plug in a PS3 gamepad via a USB OTG cable at the same time?
Maybe there's a cable on the market which allows this?
There is docking station made by Samsung, EDD-S20EWEGSTD that allows HDMI and OTG and charging simultaneously
Topic is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966281
Thanks, that looks pretty smart. It is pricey though!

[Q] [q] diy mhl otg

I've successfully made an OTG cable. It works fine.
I have also rewrired my monoprice 11pin to 5pin MHL adapter directly to my MHL output with a 40.2Ohm resistor. The phone recognizes it as a smartdock and the MHL/charging is all working. I am running TW rooted...
However when I add the proper connections to another OTG adapter, I don't get any USB enumeration. I can post pics and pinouts if anyone cares..
Monoprice part of the 9-5 adapter is 9716... I can't post links yet.
Anyone have an idea of how or why USB enumeration isn't working? I get power to said USB device, but nothing shows up on the phone side that a USB device is connected or working... I verified the device with the original OTG cable I made, so I know the mouse works just fine there.
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Accessories for Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Mirco USB 3.0 Port

Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Comes with following accessories:
USB Wall Charger
Micro USB 3.0 Cable
S-Pen
The data charge port is the same as galaxy note 3 and galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition.
So how can we take full advantage of Mirco USB 3.0 Port.
The uppermost idea in my mind is your can get an USB 3.0 OTG cable for it. Then you can use a USB mouse or wireless mouse or read your u disk.
What else accessories come to your mind? Add them here and share with us.
You can use micro USB cables with the USB 3 slot on the NotePro.... cross compatible!!!
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came here to say the Microsoft Surface Pro 2 Pens do work with the Note Tablets, especially the eraser on the other end. I also own a micro usb 3 otg cable and can confirm it works with cameras, flash drives, hard drives, mice, keyboards, and ethernet adapters
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Krazyzzz said:
This Micro USB 3.0 OTG On-The-Go Cable woks with flash drives, hard drives, mice.
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Anyone know about the ethernet adapter? Allows for lan cables (rj45) on the note...
Charlie
Update:...i t seems that any ethernet adapter will work. I literally picked one from amazon...works fine.
Update2: The otg cable mentioned above works beautifully
I ordered this cable from Amazon. Will report back if it works ok:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G10XQCC/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
callif said:
Anyone know about the ethernet adapter? Allows for lan cables (rj45) on the note...
Charlie
Update:...i t seems that any ethernet adapter will work. I literally picked one from amazon...works fine.
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Nice, good to know I kind of want to get the one Samsung is making with two usb ports on it but I may just get any that will work.
FateZero said:
Nice, good to know I kind of want to get the one Samsung is making with two usb ports on it but I may just get any that will work.
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I have something similar to the proposed samsung port unit (not available yet)...all 3 usb3 ports work; the rj45 port does not. If I plug the lan cable into one of the 3 usb ports, it works fine.
I wonder how many levels of attachments usb3 can handle. Is it different for a tablet than a pc/mac?
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Anyone know about the ethernet adapter? Allows for lan cables (rj45) on the note...
Charlie
Update:...i t seems that any ethernet adapter will work. I literally picked one from amazon...works fine.
Update2: The otg cable mentioned above works beautifully
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USB to ethernet adapter works? Really? Are you sure?
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USB to ethernet adapter works? Really? Are you sure?
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It works quite well. You will get an indication that ethernet is connected. Haven't done a comparison between it and wifi, but, yes it another option
charlie
Yes
I bought micro usb3 otg cable mentioned above and usb to ethernet adapter (in my case from apple store). Works just fine. Just make sure you are not using usb3 to ethernet adapter. It probably will not be supported . ( I was trying 'J5 create' usb 3.0 gigabit ethernet adapter - no success)
Kosta
Krazyzzz said:
How can a USB to ethernet adapter work with NotePro 12.2? Did you just plug the usb end of USB to ethernet adapter into the USB port of OTG Cable?
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krojdest said:
I bought micro usb3 otg cable mentioned above and usb to ethernet adapter (in my case from apple store). Works just fine. Just make sure you are not using usb3 to ethernet adapter. It probably will not be supported . ( I was trying 'J5 create' usb 3.0 gigabit ethernet adapter - no success)
Kosta
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Actually, the usb3 to ethernet adapter DOES work...at least for me. It is what I'm using now. Can also be used as part of a 3 port unpowered hub
charlie
I did a speed test Wifi vs 100 Meg Ethernet.
Wifi:
100 Meg Ethernet:
I have yet to find a USB3->GigE that works with this tab. My latest attempt was below. It works fine as a USB 3 hub, but the Ethernet port is not supported on the P900. It does work on my Surface Pro so I may keep it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EHDNAOE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
callif said:
It works quite well. You will get an indication that ethernet is connected. Haven't done a comparison between it and wifi, but, yes it another option
charlie
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Yeah, it's a good option. Thanks for sharing this useful information with us.
Does a 3G Dongle work with the tab

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