Installed the official CM9 two nights ago and I really can't find anything more than nitpicking at this point. Sure the home screen transition is still not quite as smooth as my wife's iPhone 4, but it is smooth enough and all the apps/games I have tried are fast enough, battery life is also incredible as I got over 4 hours screen time on wifi for my first full charge.
I have compared my device against Galaxy S3 and HTC One X, and there is no question the performance difference at this point is not worth the extra screen size to me. It is really amazing what a cohesive (no touchwiz dialer + ICS task manager mesh mash, CM9 is completely refined!) and bloat free experience CM9 is. Even the official ICS ROM after de-bloating still has too many Samsung applications for my taste.
More importantly, mobile phone applications are not desktop programs, you are not going to run Photoshop or Visual Studio on your Galaxy Note, you are not likely to play Crisis. I really believe dual core for mobile phone is very very similar to core 2 duo on desktops, that once you reach a certain level of performance, you just don't need any more upgrades. My wife and I both have 5 year old core 2 duo's and with a very modest Nvidia 9600 GT, I can still play most if not all of the mainstream games. Sure I can't play them at highest graphic details, but I can still enjoy Skyrim or Diablo 3.
I think the exact scenario is happening to mobile devices. All the top apps/games have to cater to the lowest common denominator, unless you are super hardcore, you will be satisfied. In the past people had to upgrade for performance, but I don't think it is the case anymore. I will wait out the full two year contract and pick up Note 2 when it is on sale for a discount, unless there is a hardware failure. And I think manufacturers will also see the same problem, that it will be harder and harder to get existing users to upgrade.
A big thank you to the developers! The Cyanogen team is amazing!
Im gonna be flashing tomorrow cm9 cant wait
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Ya, cm has always been nice. They usually have that extra bit of polish and professionalism. Aokp is decent too.
As far as buying new devices, there will always be people wanting to upgrade to the latest and greatest even if what they have is still completely adequate. Being an EE technology major, I'm one of those people who will buy new stuff just because I love technology. And Moore's law says it will keep getting better lol. If I can ever get a fng job, I'll definitely buy the note 2 if its awesome enough.
Everyone has computers, but most people never upgrade them to keep up with the times, they wait til they've crippled it after a few years then buy a new one. I've gotten so many nice computers that were "broken" from people, only to open them up, clean them out, reinstall whatever os I need and have it be perfectly fine for years. Usually just a fan or seating issue with some hardware.
Sidetracked, sorry.
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I also fell in love with my device again. It is much faster with CM9 and I don't need anything more. The OC kernel makes it fly. I can't make it lag. Transitions are buttery smooth. I can't wait until JB or CM10. A whole new device with touchwiz gone. Don't even miss the s pen
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On every android phone I've had I always ended up putting cm on it, it's just so much better than stock
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What's your brightness level on?
After debloating and installing trebuchet launcher, I think stock runs just as well as cm9
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Upgraded last night after a clean wipe. I like it save for I cannot uninstall ROM manager, and I can't run soft keys. Other than that you couldn't pay me to keep it. I'll be moving to the iPhone 5 and the Note 2 as fast as I can. I absolutely despise the old style hard keys. They are a crime against humanity and must be removed in the Note 2. Full screen or death!!
where is official cm9?
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where is official cm9?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767889
I saw this thread regarding CM9, but it looks like they only have beta-ish nightlies available. Haven't tried them myself.
I installed h0tw1r3's CM9 based ROM (here) and it is really beautiful.
I wanted to add that I completely agree with OP. This is my first Android phone, and I knew the power of custom ROM's in the past from using Windows Mobile 5/6. I tried several that were all pretty nice, but coming across the CM9 ROM, I feel like it really lives up to the hype. Gorgeous, polished, fast as hell!
Thanks to CM team and XDA, you guys rock.
Yeah I was under the impression that there was nothing official yet.
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I also fell in love with my device again. It is much faster with CM9 and I don't need anything more. The OC kernel makes it fly. I can't make it lag. Transitions are buttery smooth. I can't wait until JB or CM10. A whole new device with touchwiz gone. Don't even miss the s pen
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So is cm9 ics with OC kernel?
They still haven't done audio through USB yet have they?
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"I installed h0tw1r3's CM9 ROM and it is beautiful"
I am always amazed at how CM9 has the extra little touches that make a phone really work optimally like wake on volume, put screen to sleep[in notification pull down], included toggles, etc. For some reason unknown to me other ROM developers never include most of these but IMHO they make the Note really useful.
So why is there nothing on their website if this is official? Not a final release?
Also, does the cm team run on donations just like must devs?
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I think CM9 is not ready for prime time on the note. Checking the use internal SD in the storage setting forces it into a boot loop. Definely will have to wait until fixed. This is for the 7-16 nightly.
I love cm9 too.. Very fast and smooth no lag only had one little bump so far.. I run cm9 on my note and my galaxy tab 2
I would love to use cm9 but im an avid user of bell mobile tv. If there is a way to get both, please point me in the right direction.
Thanks
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Upgraded last night after a clean wipe. I like it save for I cannot uninstall ROM manager, and I can't run soft keys. Other than that you couldn't pay me to keep it. I'll be moving to the iPhone 5 and the Note 2 as fast as I can. I absolutely despise the old style hard keys. They are a crime against humanity and must be removed in the Note 2. Full screen or death!!
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Just delete the rom manager app inside the zip before flash and there you go, no more ROM manager.. are you kidding?! why waste perfect screen real estate for emulated keys? Sure the screen could go all the way to the bottom without any hard keys but unless they create a screen with a built in speaker there will always be a space at the top of the phone for that and they balanced the look of the phone by centering the screen AND including keys so that 100% of the LCD is usable. Go get in line with the sheep for that iPhone and sell your note to someone more appreciative of a fully customizable phone
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and I can't run soft keys.
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there are other roms that support this....
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On every android phone I've had I always ended up putting cm on it, it's just so much better than stock
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You Sir, just hit the proverbial nail, directly on the head.......g
Related
(now for a opinion/statement... don't take this as a negative, the progress being made is great and all the Devs are doing one heck of a job)
ICS is the new hotness and everyone wants it... but it seems that getting it running properly is probably going to take a lot of work and time. (Tbolt still has no data for example)
That is why I am hopping for a GB port. (CM7 for example) In theory, it should be much easier to port that over than ICS right?
We can have some GB AOSP goodness to hold us over until all the kernel problems and other issues with ICS are worked out.
Now if we can get the major bits working on ICS then this is moot. As long as data, wifi, and the phone works, I can handle a few bugs and a few random reboots.
(Once again not trying to be negative or knock down the achievements being made these last few days. I have been following the threads every chance I get.)
So a question to you guys out there... what do you think?
Both are going to take a large amount of time to achieve. Seeing as we have maybe 1 AOSP GB kernel, and I'm not even sure if that works. Also the whole issue with CM7 was the RIL thanks to LTE and that took awhile for the Tbolt to iron out. Also our phone is likely to get an offical release for ICS sooner than the tbolt, and probably will be easier to adapt. Who knows it could take less time and effort this time around to get a functioning RIL. But in my eyes why would they want to dump time into CM7 especially when theres the chance for pure AOSP ICS/Sense ICS on our devices? It's not like our phones don't run great w/ the sense roms at the moment. Only thing irritating me are the bootlops w/ the kernels. Not sure if thats voltage or software stability.. Honestly at this point it would be more wise to put focus onto ICS development. With ALL the improvements that ICS offers would be foolish to stick on GB.
From what I just read in another kernel, data would be an issue regardless.
I was thinking that GB would be easier to get working. If not, then there is no need.
ICS is definitely the way to go.
Data is the usual issue when dealing with these kinds of ports. I'm not sure if anyone is working on a GB AOSP rom, or even if theyre bothering to port CM7. From what I've hard the RIL can be a real pain in the ass.
Figured that sort of thing would be made robust to make it easier to get on many different devices.
You'd think so but software fragmentation is a monster in it's own. But hopefully with ICS we will truly have a unified platform this time around.
Right now they are doing what they can. The real magic will happen after we get the ics update and the ics kernel source.
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I dont know about everyone else, but my phone is running just fine on GB, GingerSense to be exact (and ran fine stock). I think at this point ICS is more of a fanboy thing. All these people want to hop on the bandwagon because it's the newest thing, without even proof it's really going to make the Android experience that much better. I don't know, maybe I'm missing something?
There is proof, it is called the Galaxy Nexus.
ICS will be worth the wait just to get the second core in our dual-core phones running.
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ICS will be worth the wait just to get the second core in our dual-core phones running.
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We're only running on one core now?
Superguy said:
We're only running on one core now?
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It acts more like an overflow core. Honeycomb and ICS are optimized for dual core.
Just like root came, this will come too, in time. I can wait for now.
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There is proof, it is called the Galaxy Nexus.
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I have yet to hear of any ICS specific function that makes the Nexus so much better of an experience to the point that I must have ICS asap.
Marine6680 said:
That is why I am hopping for a GB port. (CM7 for example) In theory, it should be much easier to port that over than ICS right?
We can have some GB AOSP goodness to hold us over until all the kernel problems and other issues with ICS are worked out.
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+1!!
bring on cm7
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I have yet to hear of any ICS specific function that makes the Nexus so much better of an experience to the point that I must have ICS asap.
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There is nothing special about the Nexus, per se, but ICS brings further hardware acceleration and dual-core optimization. The Rezound runs rock-solid on GB, but it will be unbelievable on ICS.
Beyond that, I like the re-sizeable and scrollable widgets that are stock-ICS, which brings a great feature to people who use launchers without that ability. And ICS has some really slick widget-updates to YouTube and Gallery, among others. Not to mention finally getting an Email and Gmail widget, although they failed in not having a universal widget for all messages.
How about the fact that ics actually has a design identity and looks decent. Sense gingerbread is horrible.
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I love it on my captivate. Runs smooth as silk
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How about the fact that ics actually has a design identity and looks decent. Sense gingerbread is horrible.
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To each his own. I've always liked how sense looks
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Scroslers ICS is running pretty damn smooth including data, wifi etc
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Its funny that when I first bought the phone alot of people on Xda were saying how slow and laggy it was and I was starting to regret my purchase but a couple of weeks later and im thinking to myself how fast my phone is. I guess what Im trying to say is if you want to buy a Note go ahead and do so and see for yourself if its laggy dont just take others words for it. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
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Its funny that when I first bought the phone alot of people on Xda were saying how slow and laggy it was and I was starting to regret my purchase but a couple of weeks later and im thinking to myself how fast my phone is. I guess what Im trying to say is if you want to buy a Note go ahead and do so and see for yourself if its laggy dont just take others words for it. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
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I disagree I went from the Skyrocket and my Note was a lot slower and really laggy. I just swapped my Note for another one today and WOW this new one I got today is totally different. It is just as smooth and fast as my Skyrocket. If anybody is having performance issues you need to get it swapped out ASAP you will wish you had sooner.
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That's not really so funny.
I also came from the Skyrocket and initially thought the Note was fast. Than I came on Xda and alot of user were reporting on how slow their phones were. Than I started noticing lag every where. Now after not thinking about it for awhile I dont notice the lag anymore. So my point is that by others saying how bad it was I started seeing the same0, whether it was there or not.
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After freezing half a dozen bloat apps I found my Note was running much nicer. Stock rom, rooted.
khaytsus said:
After freezing half a dozen bloat apps I found my Note was running much nicer. Stock rom, rooted.
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which apps did you freeze?
The phone running slow isn't a hardware problem..
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just flash a good ROM, don't expect good performance from a stock ROM
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just flash a good ROM, don't expect good performance from a stock ROM
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Stock rom is fine. Just various bugs in various notes.
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Thremix said:
which apps did you freeze?
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AT&T apps (nav, hotspots, a few others shown running), ****ty (city) id, some samsung social crap.. Maybe a few more..
Welcome to ****ty wok can I take your ****ty order. ^_^
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I have the note, although it is the international version.
When I first got it, it had just a little lag here and there. I don't use touchwiz, I use go launcher. I've had 4 updates, now at 2.36, LB2 and this last update (got it Thursday night) made this thing smooth with ZERO lag. Even scrolling apps in the app drawer, which, would lag for maybe 1-2 flips, then smooth out, is smooth as
silk with zero lag.
I lost root some time back, so it isn't a root issue, but perhaps on the at&t version it has to do with the bloat apps that run all the time?
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just flash a good ROM, don't expect good performance from a stock ROM
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okay not bashing here so dont take this wrong but I'm just trying to wrap my head around this statement, so you pay $300+ for your device but dont expect stock ROM performance to be any good?...seriously? I dont understand why someone wouldn't of course, and if it did underperform (mine runs fine) as a consumer you have every right to take it back. I think alot of people lose sight of the fact that it's still a PHONE that can now do amazing things that you would not have had the luxury of just a few short years back. And granted, the awesome development we enjoy through these forums does improve quality and enjoyment value of these devices to the point of maybe spoiling us as advanced users, but remember the vast majority of consumers of these devices are typical users and to them (and me) the Note on GB/Touchwiz although not a perfect machine is still an amazing device right "out of the box".
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okay not bashing here but just trying to wrap my head around this statement, so pay $300+ for your device but dont expect stock performance to be good?...seriously I dont understand why someone wouldn't, and if it did underperform (mine runs fine) as a consumer you have every right to take it back. I think alot of people lose sight of the fact that it's still a PHONE that can now do amazing things that you would not have had the luxury of just a few short years back. Note on GB/Touchwiz a not a perfect machine but still an amazing device.
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It is an amazing device but the Carrier$ load it down with u$ele$$ and unnece$$ary $oftware to $queeze more money from you. In the process the Bloatware DOES in fact hinder the performance as they run even when you don't launch them yourself. By getting rid of the bloatware you are unleashing the true potential of this beast of a phone.
Think of it this way... If you bought say a Subaru WRX STi and when you went to go pick it up and it had a bunch of useless Car Dealer stickons and random crap that hindered the performance, you are saying you wouldn't be upset ?
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It is an amazing device but the Carrier$ load it down with u$ele$$ and unnece$$ary $oftware to $queeze more money from you. In the process the Bloatware DOES in fact hinder the performance as they run even when you don't launch them yourself. By getting rid of the bloatware you are unleashing the true potential of this beast of a phone.
Think of it this way... If you bought say a Subaru WRX STi and when you went to go pick it up and it had a bunch of useless Car Dealer stickons and random crap that hindered the performance, you are saying you wouldn't be upset ?
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point taken...but you have to agree that the Devs do spoil us a bit!
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point taken...but you have to agree that the Devs do spoil us a bit!
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Very true. I'd probably be using an iphone if it weren't for the DEVs here. Sad that we need them to unlock the full potential of our devices. We also get better support from them than the companies that make them. A great example of that is the HP Touchpad.
Support your local DEVs. I do so by adding to their beer/coffee funds. Coffee is better as it keeps them up longer to work on things
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
neko_tensai said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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I don't quite understand. You don't have to flash, customize, or tinker with your phone at all. How much time you spend doing this is up to you. The phone works fine out of the box which is what you'll get with iPhone. If you want to get rid of bloat, then root it and remove the stuff you don't want.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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Solution might be to find a ROM and stay with it, keep in mind flashing and or using custom ROMs are not for everyone, if you enjoy learning and bettering your knowledge and device well then it's the ticket for you, but if you find things are not working for you and you have hard time understanding, then maybe flashing custom ROMs are not your game...
There is nothing wrong with staying Stock and or Stock straight out of the box, as stated some have found that best for them.
Thank You.
Just go with iPhone we done anybody waffling back and forth. Goodbye!
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I would never consider an iPhone as an option...
That being said, I have always had issues with Paranoid Android... either on my Note and on my Nexus S. I would suggest the ROM in my signature. I love it. Lots of features, stable and smooth. But in the end, everyone tries many ROMs before settling one one that works best for them. Happy flashing!
I'll give a bunny to anyone that helps.
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I really don't want to get an iPhone again. I got rid of the 4S 64GB factory unlocked. It's like an ipod with some phone functionality, meaning I cant use it for much. I have Tmobile and this particular phone for various reasons and the root is very necessary.
I would prefer someone help. It's obvious something I'm flashing or how I am flashing it is borking the phones. Most likely the latter.
Wipe cache, wipe system, wipe Dalvik before flashing. Or follow the instructions on the ROM page's first few posts.
Bye crapple
@dubsteps what signature? There isn't one showing on your posts.
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Drama queen. No one told you that you need to flash ROMs. Get the iPhone and please go "complain" on the iPhone forums. Roms are free and devs are taking their "own" time out of their personal lives to make em. If you can't be thankful, you don't deserve to be here.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
No way I'd ever go to an iPhone again. I don't like being told what I am allowed to do with something I bought. Don't get me started on that though. IPhone is what you use until you know better, kinda like people used to use AOL until they learned more about the internet. We have several nice ROMs to pick from
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I don't know. I've flashed a number of the ROMs on here. I just followed the directions as stated and haven't had any issues. Maybe it's cause you're on t-mobile.
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dubsteps said:
I would never consider an iPhone as an option...
That being said, I have always had issues with Paranoid Android... either on my Note and on my Nexus S. I would suggest the ROM in my signature. I love it. Lots of features, stable and smooth. But in the end, everyone tries many ROMs before settling one one that works best for them. Happy flashing!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32443042#post32443042
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If or phone is sluggish mayb or not doing good action to it. Try starting from 0 that helps that means Odin the stock GB to the phone e and yes ull loose everything u have in our internal SD so back up. IPhone never they should put iphone 5/Apple prohibited. I love how my phone performs. Running jb toooo
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I had one many years ago, and i dont want another one
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Never owned an iphone, never will. Last apple i bought was the first 30gb video ipod. Itunes sucked ass, never went back.
Id go back to a blackberry before apple.
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neko_tensai said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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If it is final one....then make it such.
We do not need more childish crying... do we?
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I got the old one on stock rom stock recovery. Its the same, very unresponsive. It takes 5 minutes just to set the language on the att start screens. The other phone is balking at connections with odin, im trying to put in only a bootloader and its got a green bar but the big area says BOOT is not changing color yet, like its at the last step and it stopped. Its odin 1.85 since the newer ones seemed worse.
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I got the old phone going, I think its fixed! I flashed the stock rom via odin thats on the forums. I used stock recovery to clear a couple caches. Then flashed cwm standard, from march or so, I used it to clear everything possible except sd card which was recently formatted as well but it has roms now. I flashed a nice safe collective mesosphere seraphim ics rom and its snappy and responsive. I think there is something wrong with some newer things, I dont know what, but I had no problems before I started with JB. fyi, bricking two phones is not normal for me.
The new phone wont talk to odin so it'll sit for a minute.
Going no where with this, so...
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Hi Guys,
I got my HP touchpad very early but I've only used it a handful number of times because WebOS doesn't offer what I want. I haven't had the time to get around to dual booting it. I'm now looking to breathe some new life into her.
Which would be the best/most stable experience? ICS (4.0+) would be nice
Have look in the development section there are several different roms and the first page will tell you what they offer the rest will offer users comments form where you should be able to make an informed decision.
DarkShadowAy said:
Hi Guys,
I got my HP touchpad very early but I've only used it a handful number of times because WebOS doesn't offer what I want. I haven't had the time to get around to dual booting it. I'm now looking to breathe some new life into her.
Which would be the best/most stable experience? ICS (4.0+) would be nice
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I use the cm9 official nightlies, IMO, the best and most stable ROM right now.
The battery life in android can't compare to WebOs. If webos had more / better apps, I would use it all the time. As it is, I use it about 50% of the time.
you could do far worse than "[ROM] UNOFFICIAL CM9 with working camera"
i semi watched for a working cam.. then this rom got everything working..
thats when it spoke to me..
it is totally stable, no gotchas.. seems like batt life is fine..
until this rom wife used webos on it, but that was very limited..
she like this rom so much she bought an N7 loaded w/ JB and i use the hptp.
point being,, use this rom for a complete daily driver..
if you do so, keep in mind that all the devs work for free. if you like their work, they deserve some type of donation..
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I use the cm9 official nightlies, IMO, the best and most stable ROM right now.
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Agreed ^ though I hardly ever boot into WebOS these days, CM9 is about as good as you can get.
Cm9, with pro rom manager, and spb shell you'll love it.
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Troute said:
Agreed ^ though I hardly ever boot into WebOS these days, CM9 is about as good as you can get.
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+1 - as stable as anything nowadays.
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Cm9, with pro rom manager, and spb shell you'll love it.
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I bought SPB Shell and stopped using it in no time. The tablet mode UI is good and the eye candy is great for about 2 seconds showing off to your mates but after that you just feel you've wasted the large cash outlay - and SPB haven't updated it (apart from minor bug fixes) in over a year. For software that costly I expect some decent support and enhancements. TSF is a better choice if you want something a bit different!
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I'd stick with one of the CM9 ROM's. I've tried CM10 up to the most recent preview on my second touchpad and it's not as fully functional, smooth and stable as the CM9 builds. You really can't go wrong with CM9 Nightly builds but I've come to prefer Fat'N Creamy at the moment. I get better battery life, no random reboots and it's a tad bit faster. I do use Juice Defender and also use Set CPU to set up custom profiles to extend battery life and get a little extra boost when gaming though.
DarkShadowAy said:
Hi Guys,
I got my HP touchpad very early but I've only used it a handful number of times because WebOS doesn't offer what I want. I haven't had the time to get around to dual booting it. I'm now looking to breathe some new life into her.
Which would be the best/most stable experience? ICS (4.0+) would be nice
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I got my TP last week to use as an aid to my profession (network engineer)
I needed flash for router configs
I ran a CM9 nightly for one night before discovering Fat'N Creamy.
SGA has it together, great Dev, in all honesty my TP is more stable on his ROM than webos itself
I had a palm pre a few years back so I knew the downsides to webos, but the HPTP hardware is everything a tablet needs to succeed
My tablet is flawless, so I highly recommend Fat'N Creamy
I'm on Fat n Creamy which is based off CM9 but seems more stable in my opinion. Its basically the same procedure to flash any ROM. Since flashing Fat n Creamy and also enabling lock screen sounds, I've been getting no reboots. Apparently the lock sound (or any sound after boot up) helps prevent the sound driver from crashing the system which causes reboots.
i was on cm9 nightlies since the beginning and there had been not issues there. Recently swapped over to Fat n Creamy as i like flashing. All has been running great and smooth.
Can't really go wrong with any ROM as all Dev has done a great job.
Ditto. Also went from the nightlies to F&C. It's been stable, brought the camera to life and seems to really improve on power consumption on my TP.
snisenson said:
I got my TP last week to use as an aid to my profession (network engineer)
I needed flash for router configs
I ran a CM9 nightly for one night before discovering Fat'N Creamy.
SGA has it together, great Dev, in all honesty my TP is more stable on his ROM than webos itself
I had a palm pre a few years back so I knew the downsides to webos, but the HPTP hardware is everything a tablet needs to succeed
My tablet is flawless, so I highly recommend Fat'N Creamy
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My experience with CM9 11/11 Nightly is similarly flawless on my TouchPad. What advantage do you see with FnC over CM9?
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snisenson said:
I got my TP last week to use as an aid to my profession (network engineer)
I needed flash for router configs
I ran a CM9 nightly for one night before discovering Fat'N Creamy.
SGA has it together, great Dev, in all honesty my TP is more stable on his ROM than webos itself
I had a palm pre a few years back so I knew the downsides to webos, but the HPTP hardware is everything a tablet needs to succeed
My tablet is flawless, so I highly recommend Fat'N Creamy
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My experience with CM9 11/11 Nightly is similarly flawless on my TouchPad. What advantage do you see with FnC over CM9?
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+1 - as stable as anything nowadays.
I bought SPB Shell and stopped using it in no time. The tablet mode UI is good and the eye candy is great for about 2 seconds showing off to your mates but after that you just feel you've wasted the large cash outlay - and SPB haven't updated it (apart from minor bug fixes) in over a year. For software that costly I expect some decent support and enhancements. TSF is a better choice if you want something a bit different!
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haha best reply EVER!
I'd suggest the AOKP CM10 rom. Working camera and basically everything else. Ive been using it for a day now so not a great amount of experience but it's very smooth.
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Thanks for your input everyone. I got CM9 on yesterday and it's absolutely fantastic!
Does anyone recommend any fixes/packs I should get on? So far it's CM9 nightly with GApps.
I can't seem to find my USB flash drive using otg, any suggestions?
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ronps said:
Ditto. Also went from the nightlies to F&C. It's been stable, brought the camera to life and seems to really improve on power consumption on my TP.
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Likewise. Tried F&C Dec version straight from nightlies. Everything works.
For those of you considering whether to put CM9 or CM10 on your HP Touchpad, or those considering upgrading to CM10:
Left CM10, Right CM9
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Advantages of CM9:
-Stable
-Smooth
-Small weekly CyanogenMod updates
-Much higher Anututu score
Advantages of CM10
-Actively be part of the development community by sharing results with the devs JCScullins & Dorreguay who work hard in porting
-Google Now works perfectly
For one, CM10 is much more buggy. It's also very choppy, considering its running 'Project Butter'. Transitions between windows and apps isn't nearly as smooth as the CM9 build. Overall, CM9 is a much better experience on the HP Touchpad, and if you are not willing to put up with the hindrances of CM10, stick to CM9 until a stable-ler alpha release of CM10 hits XDA. In my opinion, Ice Cream Sandwich is better then Jelly Bean. I feel like Jelly Bean is going in the reverse direction, and Google is not thinking about the approach, "Why fix something' that ain't broke".
An example, when opening a link in an email, you get the option on which application/browser to open the link in. In ICS, you can click the app in the list that pops up, and boom! you're there. In JB, you have to click the app, and then click again to open the app. One might say, why don't you select "Always" such that you never see that prompt... well... my reason is the next point:
I like choosing! I like being able to open a link in Firefox over Chrome if the webpage im going to happens to work better in one over the other. Also, flash is the worst possible experience you can have in CM10 for the Touchpad. Browsers all handle embedded videos differently, and you will find yourself fighting with your tablet to get a simple video running, even if it's an embedded YouTube. It sometimes isn't straight forward to launch the video in the native YouTube application.
Well, if you guys have any questions for me, feel free to ask, as I have two Touchpads (gf uses the CM9 one), and have been using CM9 and CM10 consecutively. I wish to thank all devs in making the Android on the Touchpad a challenging and fun experience! If you only have a Touchpad as your main reason for coming to XDA, be thankful, as some devices aren't as clear cut as the community here in the Touchpad section. (The Wildfire S device I have is a complete nightmare)
Cheers for now!
Edit: With jelly bean 4.2.2 (CM10.1), Google seemed to fix the above-mentioned gripe with choosing the appropriate app to open the item. CM10.1 is fantastic, and certainly worth the upgrade. Most 10.1 ROMs work fine, minus the fact that Bluetooth does not work at all. If you rely on Bluetooth connections with your Touchpad, wait until this issue is fixed, before diving into 4.2.2.
I've been using CM9 as my daily driver for a while now. I've tried CM10 ROMs but always end up going back to CM9 as it just seems more stable. I don't really see any reasons for me to upgrade to JB at the moment. I appreciate the work devs are doing to port CM10 to the Touchpad.
Mmm,
1. Which picture is CM10!
2. Man, I looked for battery life, before installing jscullins...
3. It will be great if u did a video, to see the smoothness of both
Thanks
stayfidz said:
1. Which picture is CM10!
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BuffMcBigHuge said:
Left CM10, Right CM9
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Labeled in the OP.
1. ok, coz i get 5637 under jscullins's rom, near galaxy 2
2. My TP is overcloacked.
Mine is too, at 1.7Ghz. Please explain how yours is at such a higher score.
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Definitely appreciate the Devs for trying to port CM10 to H-pads. Hope they continue to get it fully worked out.
I've tried all the CM10 roms, but end up going back to CM9 mainly for stability.
Keep up the great works!
BuffMcBigHuge, since you have 2 Pads, what do you think about battery life on CM9?
Maybe you didn't install all patches for CM10, or your background services hindered the test.
i only see 1 picture
oops nevermind. i didn't notice the scroll bar under the text
stayfidz said:
BuffMcBigHuge, since you have 2 Pads, what do you think about battery life on CM9?
Maybe you didn't install all patches for CM10, or your background services hindered the test.
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Cm10 battery is fantastic. Ill post CM9 tomorrow. however not entirely sure why my wifi randomly turned on while the screen was off.
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I've had both the Targus case and an iPad 1 case just like you, and always seem to come back to the official HP case. I like how slim it is compared to the others.
BTW, Nice work comparing ICS and JB.
Flash support in ICS means I always come back to it, not having it in JB really is a downside. I've been wondering what features JB really offers as an advantage over ICS other than maybe a bit more of a polished look. Anyone?
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BuffMcBigHuge, nice to hear it,
2. Sure CM9 is stable, but you don't get the butter
3. Jscullins has some hick-ups but fine with it, since i'm just for reading on it
3. galaxy s2 LTE uses the snapdragon 3 version, the score is near the Tab10 too
4. I wish for a final CM10.
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I've had both the Targus case and an iPad 1 case just like you, and always seem to come back to the official HP case. I like how slim it is compared to the others.
BTW, Nice work comparing ICS and JB.
Flash support in ICS means I always come back to it, not having it in JB really is a downside. I've been wondering what features JB really offers as an advantage over ICS other than maybe a bit more of a polished look. Anyone?
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You can get Flash on JB through the Adobe site link below, though I'm curious what you need it for, don't have it on my phone and have never needed it for anything.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4675670
My wife likes to watch video recipes on marthastewart.com, (lol) which as you can guess still requires flash. The performance in CM10 is so poor that it is nearly impossible to get to the video after all the advertisements. Leaves me wondering why it works 100% on my phone, with the same chip set.
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My wife likes to watch video recipes on marthastewart.com, (lol) which as you can guess still requires flash. The performance in CM10 is so poor that it is nearly impossible to get to the video after all the advertisements. Leaves me wondering why it works 100% on my phone, with the same chip set.
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Yes, flash is horrible on CM10. The flash area flickers (was going to say flashes, but that would sound wierd lol), and there are heavy graphical artifacts and bugs that tend to show stretching and skewing of the screen.
When HMTL5 takes over several flash videos, the experience isn't any better. For your wife, I would suggest backing up your apps with Titanium Backup, and then flashing CM9. My gf's touchpad uses CM9, and she hates using mine due to the issues with flash.
CM9 battery life. Not many stats due to the battery profile not running on CM9. Here, standby of 13 hours and slight usage caused a 15% battery drop, which is not bad at all.
thanks for the information
Thanks for all the info. I will stick with CM 9 for now and wait for CM10 to be more stable.
i got 4265 on my cm10 touchpad, not overclocked.
I have the jscullins's cm10 rom. It seems pretty stable. Chrome does not function very well but I just use another browser. I just like the layout with cm10 better.
I am running Schizoid's CM10 AIO and it's running pretty well, some applications have issues, but apparently recent updates have fixed them. Probably means I should update soon. Either way it's starting to feel like it's getting closer to a daily driver.