[Q] Android external HDD power management - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello
I own an Android device called Mele A2000 which runs Android 4.0.4 and has 3 USB host ports, one of them "OnTheGo". (AllWinner A10 chipset, concept is a tv-box like google tv with remote control).
Plugged into one of them is my WD external harddrive, which my Linux computer powers down if it is unused.
The android 3.0.8 kernel power management though switches it off just to power it on again after a few minutes. And then switches it of again nearly instantly. This happens for hours.
Is there a software to controll media queries? Do I have to disable FTP/SSH servers? Any hints how I can monitor which software repeatedly reads from /mnt/usbhost0/* ? Any nice power monitoring apps I can install?
Media scanning from sd and usb is disabled in the android settings.
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Fenrasa

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Amlogic S922x Ugoos AM6 Android 9 + Android TV

New TV Box combines all the best hardware and software solutions from previous models and abilities of Amlogic next gen processor.
AM6 will get USB 3.0 Fast USB, Bluetooth 5.0, WIFI 5.0/2.4 GHz with MIMO RSDB Technology Support, Wake on LAN function, active fan with control and other improvements.
Device will come with latest Android 9 OS on board.
MORE DETAILS ON OFFICIAL PAGE
Android TV for AM6 Topic
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Android 9.0 operation system
Color: Black (Other colors are optional for OEM orders).
CPU – Amlogic S922X, Quad core, ARM Cortex-A73, 1.8GHz + Dual-core ARM Cortex A53 1.7GHz.
GPU – ARM Mali-G52 MP6 ( 6ppc )
RAM – 2GB LPDDR4 RAM (4Gb optional for OEM orders)
16GB EMMC ROM (8GB/32Gb/64Gb optional for OEM orders)
Support H.265 decoding
Support 4K ultra-high definition
Power Supply – 12V/2A via DC power barrel jack
External storage – 1x USB 3.0 OTG/Host port, 3x USB 2.0 ports , TF Card x1
Internal Storage: 16GB eMMC (8GB/32Gb/64Gb optional for OEM orders).
HDMI – HDMI 2.1 Type-A [email protected] max resolution
Video Output: Built-in HDMI 2.1 transmitter including both controller and PHY with CEC, Dynamic HDR and HDCP 2.2, [email protected] max resolution.
AV output – AUX+CVBS 480i/576i
IR receiver Included – Yes
SPDIF Support – Yes
Connectivity:
Support Bluetooth 5.0
2.4GHz + 5GHz dual-band WiFi, IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac and 2×2 MIMO
1000M Ethernet Integrated IEEE 802.3 10/100/1000M Ethernet MAC with
Dual-band WiFi: 2.4G+5G the wireless module complies with IEEE 802.11, can achieve up to a speed of 867Mbps.
External Antennas – x2 WiFi Antennas
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Coupon for Ugoos AM6
I'd like to put my money down BUT!
I'd be very interested in one of these devices BUT they must be able to playback all 4K HDR streaming services which are supported on a Nvidia Shield plus the 4K HDR content available on YouTube (Shield doesn't have required codec).
It's simply a shame that the copyright policy (not Android TV certified) and or codec licensing costs are stopping the recent Android devices from showing off their full potential.
I'd even buy a Xiaomi Mi S with its locked bootloader (side loading is allowed) but reviews indicate the dated hardware is poor (hit/miss) at 4K HDR @60Hz playback. I'll just have to stick with my Roku Ultra ($69 CDN) which has no issues with 4K HDR content from any streaming service.
Even the overpriced Nvidia Sheild (2019) tube can at the time of release only support 4K @30fps with it's AI up-scaling tech. A feature that may have justified it's cost compared to these various Chinese streaming boxes.
I'm sure the dam is going to burst soon and Nvidia will pay dearly with lost sales. It's fairly obvious that the hardware is available now. I'm ready to spend money but I need a compelling argument with something substantially better than my Roku Ultra. Note that I'm not a gamer but primarily a 4K HDR home theater user of streaming services.
This box has no GMS license, so security problems do not let streaming apps provide 4k content for these devices, but there a lot of other functions this box can do much better than others on the market. Hope developers will see this and will be able to solve this problem with major streaming apps, but the price will be higher for sure.
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Work perfectly
Ugoos released True dualboot firmware for AM6 family series (including AM6 pro and AM6 plus and devices X2 & X3 based on Amlogic S905x2 / S905x3 SoCs)
Facts in short: there is a special firmware which contains both Android and CoreELEC in one pack. After reflashing you have ability to switch both systems without additional hardware (SD cards or other). Mechanism enabling switcher in power menu and restart to other system after reboot.
More details about this here: Beta Dual Boot Firmware v.0.2.8+ CoreElec for Ugoos AM6/AM6 Pro & X2/X3 Series models
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This box looks very similar and specs to the Beelink GT-KING PRO ! will this OS work on GT-KING PRO & hasa nyone tried or have experience ???????
Really Thinking of Building firmware for this , I love the HD Audio Passthrough only this model has for some reason
New Firmware for Ugoos AM6, X2 and X3 Models
Most significant update, which is important for users - Brand New Ugoos Remote app!
This service consists of two apps: one is server on your Ugoos device and the second for your Android TV.
In order to activate it, you should proceed: Settings -> X2/X3/Ugoos Settings -> Wireless assistant -> Ugoos Remote. Btw if you prefer our classic Fireasy it is available.
After reboot, Ugoos Remote App will be active and appears in app list, if you open it, you will see status info:
For Remote app you can scan QR code up here on the screenshot or proceed here: https://ugoos.com/public/remote/
Then you need to follow several steps to connect both devices. First, you need to choose what kind of connection you prefer: Wi-Fi or Bluetooth. Depends on your choice you need to pair your devices in few easy steps.
After choosing connection type, you will need to find device in a list and connect it.
App connection window and final adjusted app looks like this:
Down this post there are a lot of new updates and bug fixes.
Changelog 1.05.2020 v.0.3.2
1. Fixed multichannel PCM audio problem. Added automatic detection
2. Fixed SPDIF work for 192 kHz 32 bit audio (AM6, X2)
3. Added high resolution audio support in user applications (sample rates higher 48 kHz)
4. Added PCM audio settings
5. Added SPDIF passthrough support when TV connected to AV
6. Fixed crash when exiting hibernation mode
7. Fixed returning to the same mode when use system AFR function
8. Added restoring last active display mode after HDMI hotplug event if possible
9. Added option for power on via Bluetooth (Device Preferences -> Power)
10. Removed CEC shutdown command when device reboot
11. Added option for power off related devices when going to sleep (Device Preferences -> Display -> HDMI CEC)
12. Changed some translations in TvSettings
13. Made TvSettings window translucent
14. Added top margin for Accessory window in TvSettings
15. Cifs, Nfs clients. Disallow enable client if not filled all fields
16. Changed default wallpaper
17. Changed Wireless assistant settings, disabled fireasy by default
18. Added Ugoos remote server
19. Added Remote Control Buttons application (AM6)
20. Added support red, green buttons from new ugoos IR remote (AM6)
21. Video freeze fixed for mpeg-4 videos.
Usb 3.0 port is fake
Very surprised nobody tried USB 3.0 port (marked as OTG): IT DOES NOT WORK.
I explain: if you plug usb 3.0 pendrive when device is running, maybe you will have success… but external 2,5" HDD/SDD won't work. I say more: try to switch off the device, then plug your working-before pendrive and then switch on… IT WON'T BE RECOGNIZED. You will need to unplug and plug again.
Checking internet, this USB port seems to be made to plug temporary and low-power pendrives for debugging or firmware flashing. It is not a daily working USB 3.0 port. So be careful by choosing this device if you need USB 3.0 connection.
BTW, it is not a settings failure: Customer service will give you instructions about how to set them (choosing "host mode" in USB settings) but it seems to be hardware limitation (I guess something related with no power feed on port).
Great device, but with a great mistake too.
Rabanero said:
Very surprised nobody tried USB 3.0 port (marked as OTG): IT DOES NOT WORK.
I explain: if you plug usb 3.0 pendrive when device is running, maybe you will have success… but external 2,5" HDD/SDD won't work. I say more: try to switch off the device, then plug your working-before pendrive and then switch on… IT WON'T BE RECOGNIZED. You will need to unplug and plug again.
Checking internet, this USB port seems to be made to plug temporary and low-power pendrives for debugging or firmware flashing. It is not a daily working USB 3.0 port. So be careful by choosing this device if you need USB 3.0 connection.
BTW, it is not a settings failure: Customer service will give you instructions about how to set them (choosing "host mode" in USB settings) but it seems to be hardware limitation (I guess something related with no power feed on port).
Great device, but with a great mistake too.
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Your HDD consuming too much voltage, this USB port is not designed to spin all hard drives, just add additional power and it will be fine. host mode in USB settings is for USB 2.0 which is can be used for debugging and reflashing, not USB 3.0
Such_A_Victor said:
Your HDD consuming too much voltage, this USB port is not designed to spin all hard drives, just add additional power and it will be fine. host mode in USB settings is for USB 2.0 which is can be used for debugging and reflashing, not USB 3.0
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That's not right. I mean, in same device USB 2.0 has enough power to run these 2.5" HDD/SDD. USB 3.0 should have, at least, same power or even more to accomplish standards.. And USB mode in quick settings (not full settings) is to manage USB 3.0 mode, not USB 2.0 ports. You can read a clear CAS about that: https://medium.com/@prat.saengchan/ugoos-am6-android-tv-box-47f3b933209e
Designers made usb 3.0 port as OTG/Debug/Flashing target, not for customer use. So it has heavy issues with external hard disks as well as they will work without any problem on USB 2.0 ports.
So, again, I aware about it if you intend to buy it.
Rabanero said:
That's not right. I mean, in same device USB 2.0 has enough power to run these 2.5" HDD/SDD. USB 3.0 should have, at least, same power or even more to accomplish standards.. And USB mode in quick settings (not full settings) is to manage USB 3.0 mode, not USB 2.0 ports. You can read a clear CAS about that: https://medium.com/@prat.saengchan/ugoos-am6-android-tv-box-47f3b933209e
Designers made usb 3.0 port as OTG/Debug/Flashing target, not for customer use. So it has heavy issues with external hard disks as well as they will work without any problem on USB 2.0 ports.
So, again, I aware about it if you intend to buy it.
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So again, if your HDD consume too much power you need to use an extra adapter for it. I have used both 2.5 external HDD and 3.5 box external HDD and it works fine for me. But for 3.5 HDD I use extra usb power adapter (like 2 USB from TV Box side and one USB from HDD side).
Your HDD may have some individual incompatibility with those USB 3.0 port, in this way can be the problem
Such_A_Victor said:
So again, if your HDD consume too much power you need to use an extra adapter for it. I have used both 2.5 external HDD and 3.5 box external HDD and it works fine for me. But for 3.5 HDD I use extra usb power adapter (like 2 USB from TV Box side and one USB from HDD side).
Your HDD may have some individual incompatibility with those USB 3.0 port, in this way can be the problem
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So again, I tell you than same HDD/SDD 2.5"-no-extra-power-requirements (I have many of them) didn't work on USB 3.0/OTG port, but works well on USB 2.0 ports. So, power needs are discarded, because *again* all devices work well on USB 2.0 ports of SAME Ugoos device. Maybe is an issue of my unit, but comments before I posted a discussion with "Nancy" (Ugoos support chat) where they described than OTG port is only for maintenance, not common use. So, that's my post conclusions: USB 3.0 may not work with plugged devices.
Rabanero said:
So again, I tell you than same HDD/SDD 2.5"-no-extra-power-requirements (I have many of them) didn't work on USB 3.0/OTG port, but works well on USB 2.0 ports. So, power needs are discarded, because *again* all devices work well on USB 2.0 ports of SAME Ugoos device. Maybe is an issue of my unit, but comments before I posted a discussion with "Nancy" (Ugoos support chat) where they described than OTG port is only for maintenance, not common use. So, that's my post conclusions: USB 3.0 may not work with plugged devices.
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As far as I know, USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 hangs on two different lines (power lines and signal lines)
I don't know why this lady said OTG port is only maintenance because there is a switcher settings (Host - OTG) where you can choose how you gonna use it. However, I think you would prefer a much faster USB 3.0 rather than USB 2.0 obviously.
Experience of using this devices shows that different HDD works different, but I found out that cheaper external cases sometimes make HDD "ticking" but on my laptop is working well. So I found out that using extra power cable may help with this. ( so such HDDs both work with laptop and TV Box) Also better external HDD cases helps with that kind of problems in TV Boxes (better power consumption).
Such_A_Victor said:
As far as I know, USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 hangs on two different lines (power lines and signal lines)
I don't know why this lady said OTG port is only maintenance because there is a switcher settings (Host - OTG) where you can choose how you gonna use it. However, I think you would prefer a much faster USB 3.0 rather than USB 2.0 obviously.
Experience of using this devices shows that different HDD works different, but I found out that cheaper external cases sometimes make HDD "ticking" but on my laptop is working well. So I found out that using extra power cable may help with this. ( so such HDDs both work with laptop and TV Box) Also better external HDD cases helps with that kind of problems in TV Boxes (better power consumption).
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Finally found the bug: You did the point on this last explanation and it was an unlucky combination of hard disk (Toshiba 1TB 2,5") and external case (Ugreen 3.0 Type-C plug). Tested both of them with different pairs worked well, but that combination failed.
On my tests I never plugged off changing devices and that's another effect: it remains some kind of unstable state that makes failed tests with other hard drives and pendrives, even if you reboot or shutdown (blue led). Now I have learned that when this device has drive failure you must shutdown and switch off power some seconds to flush electrical charge after plugging other devices. If not, you may have false fails.
This is a great TV box with great hardware, but I think it lacks with USB power. And another big fail: 32-bit Android? Seriously!?
Anyway, thanks a lot for your comments. It helped me for finding the problem and learning about this device. I hope XDA developers community take a look at this device and try to expand all of its potential. I know there are some custom ROMs over there, but they are mods of official one and based on 32 bit architecture. I dream with a pure-64bit ROM that puts this device in another level.
(Btw last update includes Magisk and other user desired improvements. That's a great step for something more and demonstrates Ugoos don't forget to make updates.)
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Hello,
perhaps a little outdated: I got a UGOOS AM6XX box that runs CoreElec. I understand it should be able to boot into Android 9 as well by choice but I can't see a boot menu, however.
I could use a little how-to. Seems there is nothing such from the manufacturer :-(
Could anybody give me a hint please?
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Philandroid said:
...it should be able to boot into Android 9 as well by choice but I can't see a boot menu...
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Switch back to Android system you also can from power menu in main dialog window in CoreElec system. You need to choose “reboot from eMMC/NAND” function.
Beta Dual Boot Firmware v.0.2.8+ CoreElec for Ugoos AM6/AM6 Pro & X2/X3 Series models
Dual Boot firmware is based on two systems: main OS is Android with our latest RC firmware v 0.2.8. Main system is a standard for this device and has regular updates.
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mAtvXk said:
Switch back to Android system you also can from power menu in main dialog window in CoreElec system. You need to choose “reboot from eMMC/NAND” function.
Beta Dual Boot Firmware v.0.2.8+ CoreElec for Ugoos AM6/AM6 Pro & X2/X3 Series models
Dual Boot firmware is based on two systems: main OS is Android with our latest RC firmware v 0.2.8. Main system is a standard for this device and has regular updates.
ugoos.com
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Thank you very much! I'll try this right away.
Best regards,
Phil

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