[Q] powering on the screen using back or menu soft keys. - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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wow 60 views and NO ideas?

No, it cannot. They are inactive until the screen is turned on. Your phone wouldn't be able to go into deep sleep if it was anticipating you touching soft keys.

b-eock said:
No, it cannot. They are inactive until the screen is turned on. Your phone wouldn't be able to go into deep sleep if it was anticipating you touching soft keys.
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why not? surely it doesn't take all them brainy quad cores to monitor one little button.
The HoX can do it so why cant ours?

Andyokane said:
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what is the big deal to press either power or home botton to wake up screen....
Hard botton is always prefferable for unlocking the screen otherwise each accedental tap will make your phone awake and drain the battery to zero in your pocket itself...

Andyokane said:
why not? surely it doesn't take all them brainy quad cores to monitor one little button.
The HoX can do it so why cant ours?
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Never owned a HOX but is it one of the reasons for poor battery on HOX?

ZACQ8 said:
what is the big deal to press either power or home botton to wake up screen....
Hard botton is always prefferable for unlocking the screen otherwise each accedental tap will make your phone awake and drain the battery to zero in your pocket itself...
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With paranoid android you can turn on the onscreen buttons and some people actually prefere this, some even have remapped the home button to a soft key. All i'm saying is that some people do not like the feel on the home button.
watsa said:
Never owned a HOX but is it one of the reasons for poor battery on HOX?
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Its actually a mod that you install, and the battery issues are not present in most the custom roms

why cant any of the devs make the back key, when you hold and press, the task manager appears. i think holding the main button dow will eventually mess the button up. at the moment when you hold and press the back key, nothing happens. whereas if you hold down the menu button you get google search thingy

Andyokane said:
wow 60 views and NO ideas?
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no one want to answer because it simply can be answered by general knowledge of Operating System and logic of universe.

ascariz said:
no one want to answer because it simply can be answered by general knowledge of Operating System and logic of universe.
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Where's the "bell-end" button... ?

surely it doesn't take all them brainy quad cores to monitor one little button.
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When the CPU is in deep-sleep, none of them are awake. Actually the CPU sets itself a timer to wake up, check for work and go to sleep again.
(Not really different from what we do all day =) Only with the exception that it's not supposed to oversleep ^^ )
I'm not sure as for the hardware but there are 2 possible reasons for the CPU not waking up to softkeys:
- they might be polled (the CPU asks their status every X milliseconds) instead of interrupts (notify the CPU with very high priority about any changes) That would mean the CPU had to be awake for them to work which drains a lot of power
- Some interrupts are capable of waking up a deep-sleeping CPU , others aren't.

10076757 said:
why cant any of the devs make the back key, when you hold and press, the task manager appears. i think holding the main button dow will eventually mess the button up. at the moment when you hold and press the back key, nothing happens. whereas if you hold down the menu button you get google search thingy
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i don;t think that is really an issue, this has been the same on the S2 as well and it didn't mess up the button.

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[Q] Long power buton response time

I am absolutely satisfied with this phone . BUT i have one problem . When i push the power buton it takes between 0.2 and 2 secound to appear the lock screen. What should i do to make it faster? Becouse the waiting is disappointing with this hardware ....
if u want instant on u will need all of you 4 cores to stay awaken at full speed at all time u still want it ?
it goes to power saving mode thats why it needs 2 secs to be awaken
bobekk said:
if u want instant on u will need all of you 4 cores to stay awaken at full speed at all time u still want it ?
it goes to power saving mode thats why it needs 2 secs to be awaken
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It's right , but my old desire hd had about 0.5 sec to wake up . This is why i asked it .
It's a battery saving feature. You can turn off S-Voice on lockscreen from the S-Voice settings, or just completely disable the whole application like I did, and this speeds up the wake process a little bit.
bortak said:
It's a battery saving feature. You can turn off S-Voice on lockscreen from the S-Voice settings, or just completely disable the whole application like I did, and this speeds up the wake process a little bit.
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Yes i have already done that . But this lag is really annoying . Mainly because its not always the same ammount . Sometimes it takes 3 secounds but sometimes its a half secound. I really dont know what to do...
If your USB cable is connected, it wakes up instantly, if not, there is a lag. This is a feature (!) of Samsung phones. We discussed it deeply on this thread in SGS2 forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136223
Basically, it's epic failure by Samsung and there's no solution.
It can't be explained by saying phone needs to sleep, because HTC, LG, Sony, Motorola phones sleep too and none of them needs so long to wake up.
oh well in terms of when your actually using the phone, nothing compares to the speed and fluidity of Sammy phones. Isnt really an issue that it takes a second longer to wake up
aydc said:
If your USB cable is connected, it wakes up instantly, if not, there is a lag. This is a feature (!) of Samsung phones. We discussed it deeply on this thread in SGS2 forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136223
Basically, it's epic failure by Samsung and there's no solution.
It can't be explained by saying phone needs to sleep, because HTC, LG, Sony, Motorola phones sleep too and none of them needs so long to wake up.
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Yes, but they also dont tend to have as good standby battery life on HTC, LG, Sony or Moto phones.
I'm not defending them completely but this is a design decision rather than a bug. That said, on the Galaxy Note it has been almost completely alleviated since the ICS upgrade.
moqs said:
I am absolutely satisfied with this phone . BUT i have one problem . When i push the power buton it takes between 0.2 and 2 secound to appear the lock screen. What should i do to make it faster? Becouse the waiting is disappointing with this hardware ....
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I noticed it only recently after screwing around @ 1.8ghz that suddenly the phone is taking sometimes millisec or sometimes even 3 secs to go to lock screen and also ripple is slowed if immediately try to unlock. I thought maybe i messed up some part of hardware by o/cing it too much. Even my old LG O3D takes just a sec. ANyway glad to know it's a common thing and not my phone being fkd up.
I can't judge, I take several minutes to wake up.
Still waiting...
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Thank you for all the answers!
Ive noticed this too, its frustrating, makes the phone feel laggy.
My S2 was running CM9 and that was sharp as hell, no messing about, is this something that will in time be fixed with a custom rom?

screen calibration

Is there a way to "re-calibrate" the screen or change the sensitivity?
I have found that when I need to press a button near the corner of the screen, (like on a friendstream widget to refresh), I usually have to press it several times or use my pinky.
I'm thinking either the "alignment" is off or the sensitivity needs to be tweaked (maybe my fingers are too big)
When I first started typing on the Inc 4G, I noticed that sometimes it seemed like it was missing letters I was typing. As I started using it more, I realized that my hand was barely touching the corner of the screen next to the recent apps button, since I was used to using a small phone, the original Incredible. However, once I realized I was doing that, I stopped doing it. I have to consciously make the decision to stop every time I notice myself doing it. I've only been using it for a couple days, but I'm doing it less now, so hopefully I'll stop completely soon. I don't understand why it thinks the corner of the screen should be touch sensitive, because it's almost a full centimeter away from the recent apps button.
IceDragon59 said:
When I first started typing on the Inc 4G, I noticed that sometimes it seemed like it was missing letters I was typing. As I started using it more, I realized that my hand was barely touching the corner of the screen next to the recent apps button, since I was used to using a small phone, the original Incredible. However, once I realized I was doing that, I stopped doing it. I have to consciously make the decision to stop every time I notice myself doing it. I've only been using it for a couple days, but I'm doing it less now, so hopefully I'll stop completely soon. I don't understand why it thinks the corner of the screen should be touch sensitive, because it's almost a full centimeter away from the recent apps button.
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interesting, I'll have to keep an eye on that.
but I'm trying to hit a small button on the top right corner of the screen.
I have the issue I mentioned before when I'm holding the phone in landscape mode with the capacitive buttons on the right, the base of my index finger where it meets my hand barely touches the screen about a centimeter above the recent apps button. I don't use the FriendStream widget, as I don't use social networks at all, but if the button is too small, it may be that your fingers are too big, but more likely you are touching the screen somewhere else. I only figured it out when I took my right hand away from the screen and was still typing with my left and the keys were working much easier for me.
Try taking the hand you're not using to press the button and put it on the bottom of the phone to hold it steady, then, using your other hand, only touch the screen where the refresh button is with your largest finger and see if it works. It may seem like really basic troubleshooting, but sometimes that's the way to go.
Failing that, try to go to Settings -> Language & keyboard -> HTC Sense Input -> Advanced settings -> Calibration tool
It only lets you type in portrait mode, which is kinda dumb since most typing is done in landscape mode, at least for me. It would be nice to at least have an option to do it in landscape.
Anyway, I hope one of these solutions helps.
can use this.
andybones said:
can use this.
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The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
IceDragon59 said:
The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
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no this isn't true.
you don't have to press hard, you have to press in the correct spot...
this phone's display is tough to get used to.
prime example, trying to exit out of a single app in the stock task manager, is very tough, and always opens the app instead of hitting the x, it's annoying, but it's worth it, IMO
but here is a vid showing that I have zero difficulties going through the set-up.
that and a little teaser of the ROM Nitsuj17 and I are working on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPfzJmnBJXg
andybones said:
no this isn't true.
you don't have to press hard, you have to press in the correct spot...
this phone's display is tough to get used to.
prime example, trying to exit out of a single app in the stock task manager, is very tough, and always opens the app instead of hitting the x, it's annoying, but it's worth it, IMO
but here is a vid showing that I have zero difficulties going through the set-up.
that and a little teaser of the ROM Nitsuj17 and I are working on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPfzJmnBJXg
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Well, I was having difficulties using it. I don't have fat sausage fingers, and I even tried using my pinky finger and pressing directly on it and everything after the first dot just didn't work unless I pressed very hard on it. Now that I've used it once and calibrated it, it works much easier doing it again. Perhaps it was just that the factory default calibration for my phone is just that off.
IceDragon59 said:
Well, I was having difficulties using it. I don't have fat sausage fingers, and I even tried using my pinky finger and pressing directly on it and everything after the first dot just didn't work unless I pressed very hard on it. Now that I've used it once and calibrated it, it works much easier doing it again. Perhaps it was just that the factory default calibration for my phone is just that off.
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the directions say press and HOLD..
lol, gotta read the directions my friend.
andybones said:
the directions say press and HOLD..
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lol. I read that. I was pressing and holding for 5+ seconds with normal pressure, and it took 3+ seconds with lots of pressure. After doing this the second time, I didn't even have to hold more than 1 second under normal pressure.
IceDragon59 said:
lol. I read that. I was pressing and holding for 5+ seconds with normal pressure, and it took 3+ seconds with lots of pressure. After doing this the second time, I didn't even have to hold more than 1 second under normal pressure.
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ahh, sorry about that
weird.. wonder if something is wrong with ur touchscreen
andybones said:
ahh, sorry about that
weird.. wonder if something is wrong with ur touchscreen
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Could be. Something's definitely wrong with my Weather app.
IceDragon59 said:
The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
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Something definitely wrong with your screen then. Works like a champ for me.
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[Q] Top Power Button

From the reviews, it seems the power button is tough to hit, without completely changing your grip on the phone. I actually hated trying to hit the power button on the HTC one x. I assume this will be even tougher with the longer length. Are there any apps, to allow the volume rocker to power on the phone?
motionUS said:
From the reviews, it seems the power button is tough to hit, without completely changing your grip on the phone. I actually hated trying to hit the power button on the HTC one x. I assume this will be even tougher with the longer length. Are there any apps, to allow the volume rocker to power on the phone?
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There is no doubt devs will implement a volume rocker wake toggle into roms in the near future.. but frankly I'm okay with the power btn, I have a Rezound with a button that's completely flush to the device xD It's annoying but the DNA looks like it has a little bit of "space" for u to hit it, aka it's not flush.
ah well.
motionUS said:
From the reviews, it seems the power button is tough to hit, without completely changing your grip on the phone. I actually hated trying to hit the power button on the HTC one x. I assume this will be even tougher with the longer length. Are there any apps, to allow the volume rocker to power on the phone?
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I have a Nexus now and use the Liquid rom which definitely has this feature to wake up using volume buttons. Also there are apps like Smart screen On which make use of proximity sensor to wake up device.
abby.ghag said:
I have a Nexus now and use the Liquid rom which definitely has this feature to wake up using volume buttons. Also there are apps like Smart screen On which make use of proximity sensor to wake up device.
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+1
Yes, the smart screen on app is fantastic, pull the phone out of your pocket or swipe your hand over the sensor and it wakes (to the unlock screen), put it back in your pocket (or leave the screen/flip the device to cover the prox sensor) and screen goes off!

[Q] Need Some Help with New Phone

Two days ago I received my One from T-Mobile. The auto sleeping/locking after inactivity feature is preventing me from using this device. Due to my severe physical disability (Spinal Muscular Atrophy), I am unable to push the power button to wake it up. I know this will drain the battery faster, but I have no other choice. Any suggestions to fix this are greatly appreciated.
Also, I cannot get Android Screencast to work like I did with my Sensation. The screen shows, but mouse/keyboard are nonfunctional.
bingman9517 said:
Two days ago I received my One from T-Mobile. The auto sleeping/locking after inactivity feature is preventing me from using this device. Due to my severe physical disability (Spinal Muscular Atrophy), I am unable to push the power button to wake it up. I know this will drain the battery faster, but I have no other choice. Any suggestions to fix this are greatly appreciated.
Also, I cannot get Android Screencast to work like I did with my Sensation. The screen shows, but mouse/keyboard are nonfunctional.
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I guess nobody can help.
bingman9517 said:
I guess nobody can help.
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Aside from maybe installing a custom rom, there is no way to force the screen awake.
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bingman9517 said:
Two days ago I received my One from T-Mobile. The auto sleeping/locking after inactivity feature is preventing me from using this device. Due to my severe physical disability (Spinal Muscular Atrophy), I am unable to push the power button to wake it up. I know this will drain the battery faster, but I have no other choice. Any suggestions to fix this are greatly appreciated.
Also, I cannot get Android Screencast to work like I did with my Sensation. The screen shows, but mouse/keyboard are nonfunctional.
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Is it just the power button that causes you difficulty, or can you perhaps use one of the volume buttons? There may be apps that can change the functionality of the buttons and can be remapped to turn on the screen. Barring that, the screen turns on when power is applied to the USB, so maybe you could use that fact somehow.
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Aside from maybe installing a custom rom, there is no way to force the screen awake.
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There's no way to set it to not automatically put the screen to sleep?
stevedebi said:
Is it just the power button that causes you difficulty, or can you perhaps use one of the volume buttons? There may be apps that can change the functionality of the buttons and can be remapped to turn on the screen. Barring that, the screen turns on when power is applied to the USB, so maybe you could use that fact somehow.
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The volume buttons aren't possible either. I'm not able to apply enough pressure to press down. Some days my mouse is even difficult. I am also not able to plug/unplug the USB. I appreciate the suggestions and welcome any input at all. If someone has specific questions about my exact limitations, to help figure out a solution, please private message me!
So you're looking for a way to never have your screen go off, is that right? And you can't press USB hard enough to insert? That means you'll be unable to charge a rapidly draining battery. That's not good. (Never sleep while plugged in seems like best option, to me)
If I can think of anything else, I'll come back.
Peace.
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bingman9517 said:
There's no way to set it to not automatically put the screen to sleep?
The volume buttons aren't possible either. I'm not able to apply enough pressure to press down. Some days my mouse is even difficult. I am also not able to plug/unplug the USB. I appreciate the suggestions and welcome any input at all. If someone has specific questions about my exact limitations, to help figure out a solution, please private message me!
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I'm thinking that you could have someone construct a large switch in the middle of the USB cable, which would turn the power on and off.
scottspa74 said:
So you're looking for a way to never have your screen go off, is that right? And you can't press USB hard enough to insert? That means you'll be unable to charge a rapidly draining battery. That's not good. (Never sleep while plugged in seems like best option, to me)
If I can think of anything else, I'll come back.
Peace.
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When I'm home, 90% of my life, my phone is always plugged in. When I'm out, my caregiver helps me with my phone.
bingman9517 said:
When I'm home, 90% of my life, my phone is always plugged in. When I'm out, my caregiver helps me with my phone.
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Well, a large toggle switch on the usb cable would allow you to disconnect and reconnect the power, which would cause the screen to come on.
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stevedebi said:
Well, a large toggle switch on the usb cable would allow you to disconnect and reconnect the power, which would cause the screen to come on.
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This is a good idea, however, I am not able to toggle a switch. What I am envisioning that you are referring to is something like a lamp that has the on off switch in the power cord instead of on the fixture. Is this what you mean?
Is there no way to edit the root to prevent the screen from automatically turning off when the device is idle? Also, any ideas on getting Android Screencast to accept mouse and keyboard input when connected to the PC via USB? From what I have read it is something to do with Jellybean. Perhaps an alternative app?
bingman9517 said:
This is a good idea, however, I am not able to toggle a switch. What I am envisioning that you are referring to is something like a lamp that has the on off switch in the power cord instead of on the fixture. Is this what you mean?
Is there no way to edit the root to prevent the screen from automatically turning off when the device is idle? Also, any ideas on getting Android Screencast to accept mouse and keyboard input when connected to the PC via USB? From what I have read it is something to do with Jellybean. Perhaps an alternative app?
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You should be able to rig a switch that turns on and off by touch, like some table lamps.
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stevedebi said:
You should be able to rig a switch that turns on and off by touch, like some table lamps.
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I've seen some touch lamps, but not just a switch.
bingman9517 said:
I've seen some touch lamps, but not just a switch.
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It might take some ingenuity and searching.
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tryed to flash clean rom 2.5 now phone frooze

my phone is stuck on the install screen how do I reset my phone to get back to recovery?
Hold down power button for awhile. Capacitive buttons will flash then reboot.
Find a bright light and hold phone under it. Press and hold the power button until the phone shuts off.
cschmitt said:
Hold down power button for awhile. Capacitive buttons will flash then reboot.
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ive been tyring that and they flash but it does not reboot
gunnyman said:
Find a bright light and hold phone under it. Press and hold the power button until the phone shuts off.
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a bright light? may I ask whats that for?
rtubbs85 said:
a bright light? may I ask whats that for?
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for some reason if holding the power button alone doesn't work, and sometimes it doesn't overwhelming the ambient light sensor does the job. It's the same on the HTC Butterfly too.
gunnyman said:
for some reason if holding the power button alone doesn't work, and sometimes it doesn't overwhelming the ambient light sensor does the job. It's the same on the HTC Butterfly too.
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alright ill try that thanks
gunnyman said:
for some reason if holding the power button alone doesn't work, and sometimes it doesn't overwhelming the ambient light sensor does the job. It's the same on the HTC Butterfly too.
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lol I held it under the light in my fridge and it worked. thanks man at first I thought your were joking with me
rtubbs85 said:
lol I held it under the light in my fridge and it worked. thanks man at first I thought your were joking with me
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If I'm kidding around I use smilies. This is indeed the weirdest fix ever ™
gunnyman said:
If I'm kidding around I use smilies. This is indeed the weirdest fix ever ™
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yeah it is. good to know know though just incase
gunnyman said:
Find a bright light and hold phone under it. Press and hold the power button until the phone shuts off.
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I honestly thought you were trolling as well, good trick to know.
its to prevent accidental button combos while its in you pocket or bag. it uses the light and proximity sensors to determine if its in a pocket or bag
I about laughed, then I knew you know what you are talking about, so I went and did your suggestion, and lmao, it worked. I was going crazy in my dark dungeon of an office, then I saw the light. Thanks for that.
Aroma is not very stable. I personally use up and down keys instead of touch screen and it works much better. Also I try to not rush. Once you get to next screen, wait 2 to 5 seconds then use up and down and then power to select or push buttons. Works for me every time.
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