Korean IME and stock Keyboard: How do you handle switching between multiple languages - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everybody,
I am an Android User ever since and something that always bugged me was the bad support of multiple languages.
I saw word prediction and autocorrection, as well as the overall performance improving with every new Android version. But still typing in multiple languages is -- to be honest -- a pain in the a*s on Android devices...even on Jelly Bean! (But I got to admit...the stock Jelly Bean keyboard is quite good and the range of supported languages is impressive!)
When I take a look at the variety of countries XDA users and developers come from I just can't believe that there is no sufficient solution.
Or and this is more likely...I am just to blind to find it
My frequently used languages are:
German
English (US)
Korean
Russian
Spanish
(I greyed out the last ones, because I don't use them as often as the other ones.)
Especially Korean causes problems, because it has no direct integration and the recently updated "Google Korean IME" (Play Store Link) has some really weird issues. They state to have it updated to the ICS UI, but the button order honestly is just confusing.
Please take a look at the attached screenshots.
What's bugging me the most is the inconsitent layout in the "Korean IME".
On the Stock Keyboard the button-order in the downmost row is:
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[?123] [,] [(lang-switch)] [space] [.] [search/go/enter]
On the Korean IME, but English Layout it is:
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[한굴] [?123] [(voice-input)] [space] [.] [search/go/enter]
On the Korean IME, but Korean Layout it is:
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[ABC] [?123] [(voice-input)] [space] [.] [search/go/enter]
On the Korean IME, but Special Character Layout it is:
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[(settings)] [한굴] [,] [space] [.] [search/go/enter]
Why isn't the the same order as in the Jelly Bean Keyboard used?
Why can't the settings button be deactivated in the keyboards settings of the Korean IME?
Why does the order of the "back to languages mode" button in the "Special Character Layout" (Korean IME) change from the regular pattern and is completely differing from all the other stock keyboard layouts?
Why are the special characters (alternative pane) in the Korean IME different from the layout in all the other stock keyboard patterns (different set of characters like stars etc.; not even the symbol for "Korean Won" ₩ is on it, neither the circle for degree °)?
Why is the stock keyboard slightly bigger compared to the Korean IME, even though it is supposed to support the new UI?
Why does the english layout of the korean IME use a different autocorrect than the new stock keyboard?
Why does the Korean IME always start up with the English Character-Set shown first (no settings available)? Switching to the Korean IME is in 99% of the use cases done to type with korean characters.
If you are a heavy user in terms of switching fast between multiple languages this gets really annoying, because you very quickly stop taking a look for the buttons and then hit the wrong ones.
And another thing really bugs me as a Mac OS X user...why isn't the language you are typing in autodetected?
I don't really need special keyboards for let's say English/German/Spanish. In the rare occasions I use Spanish I can just select the ñ or other differing characters from the popup. There is no other major difference between the keyboard layouts! And all the other characters are all integrated in the German keyboard (for example) as well...
Why do I have to switch the keyboard all the time? Only for the autocorrect functions?
It makes sense to have a switch for Russian and Korean or all the other languages with non-latin characters, but for the rest? This seems outdated.
Take a look at Mac OS X. The autodetection is done very well and just works.
So XDA...what is your solution to this?
Thank you very much
Vielen Dank
감사함니다
спасибо
gracias

It's unbelievably stupid. You'd think with Samsung being the largest smartphone manufacturer in the world, Android would have a Korean keyboard! At least everything works on ICS. In JB, the voice input button doesn't switch languages, ever! It's always your default display language. This really isn't that hard, Google! It's as if you have no East Asian customers.
BTW, the Korean IME in the Play store says it's updated for ICS, not JB.

Yeah you are right...they updated to ICS. (Fixed it in the first posting...along with some more typo corrections )
But anyways...as both use the Holo Interface the difference shouldn't be that big. And as far as I could tell from comparing the screenshots...there were no changes made regarding the button order on the stock keyboard from ICS to JellyBean.
Seriously I don't know...
I sent this as an feature request to Google.
I wonder how they handle request...if they actually care about them?
We'll see...

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Language Inputs for WM 6.5

As a foreign language student I often find myself looking for ways to use the language I'm learning/have learned on my winmo device. At first this can be very daunting as there are a lot of options out there, so I wanted to make this thread to consolidate any freeware or other options there are working for the current builds of winmo.
If people think this is a good idea I'll link this thread on the wiki. Please post any language inputs you have with a cab or a working link and I'll update the thread to include them.
INPUTS:
Chinese
Pinyin inputs
ZTA4 - (by far the BEST free pinyin input out there)
Non-Touchscreen
QVGA Touchscreen
VGA Touchscreen
WVGA Touchscreen with HTC skin (Recommended)
Handwriting inputs
Samsung Handwriting Input - VGA/WVGA Fullscreen input
Korean
Multiple Input Methods
Moakey v2 WVGA - Includes hand input, keyboard input, etc.
Japanese
Multiple Input Methods
Handwriting + Kana Input VGA/WVGA - Not touch friendly [Original Thread]
Touch Friendly Input - This is a cab I made combining touchkeysip + gesture10key SIP. NOTE: This is not an IME, you must separately install a japanese IME and use 411 japanese keyboard for it to work, but if you do it is an excellent touch friendly layout for something like the HD2.
Handwriting
Careace Japanese Writing Input - Includes font, original site here
Edit: If you have any stable working input methods for any language, please let me know.
Whatever language input you decide to install you will need a display font to go along with it. If you might be using more than one language its best to go with one of the multiple ones listed at the top, but if you are sure to only use one language a dedicated single font will provide more robust support.
FONTS:
M8 CJKT Doggold v2 - Supports Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Thai
Ko_jp_cn - More robust Chinese/Japanese/Korean support, but no thai.
Sunglobe - Small Chinese Simplified font with Trad support
Microsoft Yahei - Supports all simp and Trad Characters and most Japanese, it is supposed to support Korean as well, but I can't get it to display.
Korean Font by Careace - Original website here
what about japanese ?
ebichuX said:
what about japanese ?
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I don't want to post anything I haven't either A) personally tested or B) been recommended by another forum member.
I'll work on finding some japanese input solutions later today, as well as expanding the chinese inputs to include zhuyin, wubi, and maybe cangjie methods.
If anyone out there has a reliable input method, please share. In particular I think we need to find a korean method.
ebichuX said:
what about japanese ?
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There you go, japanese input added. Still need one that is touch friendly at WVGA though.
thank you.
But can't make it works, even with PQzII on my HD2
ebichuX said:
thank you.
But can't make it works, even with PQzII on my HD2
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Ok, I'm working on a solution. Can you tell me exactly what it does? Can you bring up the keyboard at all? Will it type, or is it showing boxes, or only typing english?
can't find japanese keyboard. (the shift - ctrl - ctrl - shift can't work... don't have ctrl key )
and with pzqII when i lauch it, i have a white square in the middle of "start" word on top left, and can't activate anything.
ebichuX said:
can't find japanese keyboard. (the shift - ctrl - ctrl - shift can't work... don't have ctrl key )
and with pzqII when i lauch it, i have a white square in the middle of "start" word on top left, and can't activate anything.
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If you look in the original thread that I posted next to the japanese input, you will find that you have to go into the registry and manually change the keyboard to 411 instead of 409 (english).
I'm trying to find a way to avoid doing that, as both the chinese and korean inputs I have don't require that, but so far no dice.
nevermind, forgot to reset the the phone. hah.. 0_o
ok just tried editing peoples names in korean with moakey v2. and installed the korean font cab but doesn't seem to display any korean..
errm did I miss something?
bumskee said:
nevermind, forgot to reset the the phone. hah.. 0_o
ok just tried editing peoples names in korean with moakey v2. and installed the korean font cab but doesn't seem to display any korean..
errm did I miss something?
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I strongly recommend the M8 CJKT cab, its worked the best for me so far.
I'm using it plus moakey + zta4 on my phone right now and they both work fine.
Remember, you may have to reset a couple of times when dealing with fonts and inputs.
narcotichobo said:
If you look in the original thread that I posted next to the japanese input, you will find that you have to go into the registry and manually change the keyboard to 411 instead of 409 (english).
I'm trying to find a way to avoid doing that, as both the chinese and korean inputs I have don't require that, but so far no dice.
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that's a good solution when you use for long time japanese input.. but in my case, i wont go to registry and change a key every 5 seconds! :/
but, there's nothing hurry, i finally can't use the program i wanted, so i keep searching for a kanji learner / dictionnary, with japanese inputs AND handwriting :/
Have you by chance tried this WVGA version of ZTA4?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4149571
I need a WVGA Chinese pinyin input method, one that's 6.5 compatible for my Rhodium based phone.
Nevermind, fixed this!
Hello, this thread has been incredibly helpful, thanks !
I have a little problem, I can't make Moakey & Samsung handwriting (chinese) work together... Only the last installed works and seems to disable the first installed. I think they have conflicting files or something?
For example, if Moakey is installed, then if I install Samsung handwriting, it disables handwriting in Moakey.
Any solutions? I have installed them both on internal storage, then tried to put one in internal and one in external, but no success...
You should try Mobem Software's CE-Star, and CE-Star Suite. They have keyboards, handwriting, stroke... and many others and mutiple languages.
I just tried your ZTA4, which is very nice. I think I prefer it as a keyboard Pinyin input to that of Mobem's.
MKK said:
Have you by chance tried this WVGA version of ZTA4?
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Yes tried the WVGA, works great.
markusrow said:
Yes tried the WVGA, works great.
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Sorry, just to be clear, which WVGA input tool did you try and like so much?
This one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633339
Or this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4149571
I've a Rhodium (Touch Pro2) running a 6.5.+ ROM, so I'm particularly interested in knowing what input tool works best with that combo of hardware and software.
Thanks
thanks u so much for your work. Im looking for JaPanese font to install to my WWE ROM too ,
narcotichobo said:
I don't want to post anything I haven't either A) personally tested or B) been recommended by another forum member.
I'll work on finding some japanese input solutions later today, as well as expanding the chinese inputs to include zhuyin, wubi, and maybe cangjie methods.
If anyone out there has a reliable input method, please share. In particular I think we need to find a korean method.
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hi thanks for these info. i'm really look forward to zhuyin input. coz i can only know how to use zhuyin input in tranditional chinese.
by the way, i use htc diamond 2 wm6.5 english version. are they competiable with my phone? i've tried ezinput 2.1, but it's failed. i know it'll work on other rom, but i'll prefer to keep wm6.5.
MKK said:
Sorry, just to be clear, which WVGA input tool did you try and like so much?
This one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633339
Or this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4149571
I've a Rhodium (Touch Pro2) running a 6.5.+ ROM, so I'm particularly interested in knowing what input tool works best with that combo of hardware and software.
Thanks
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The First One ZTA4 WVGA version works well, although the keyboard seems to continuously make itself the default. I have a Blackstone, HTC HD T8282, also running a WM 6.5.+ ROM, but cannot comment on Rhodium. Can't see why it should be different though. Good Luck. BTW, I have still only found CE-Star to fully display Characters in all applications, Mail, Calendar, Home, Contacts, etc.

[Q] Changing Language in Fabulous Gingerbread Keyboard for Word Suggestion/Prediction

Hey There,
I live in Germany and type most of my SMS in german.
I flashed the "Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) Keyboard" from Fabulous? under CM6.1 on my Hero. (the one from the "perfect setup guide")
it's working just fine, but the suggested words are all in english, which is actually pretty annoying, since I can make no mistake while typing.
Is there ANY way to change the dictionary/word-completion-database (whatever is responsible), so the keyboard actually suggests german words, when keyboard is set to german and english words, when set to same.
If I could only change it to one language permanently, I would still like to change it towards german.
If this doesn't work, which keyboard should I give a try? This should have a working auto-prediction in german under CM6.1
I know Swype and HTC_IME...
cheers
I don't think you can but have you tried changing your language on the phone if that does not work you might want to download smart keyboard trail from the android market then search for smart keyboard language the german language should be somewhere in the search result then go into settings then language and keyboard then check the smart keyboard trail then long press on then go into message and compose message then long press on any box and choose smart keyboard trail
phone language is already set to german. changing it to english and then back to german didn't change anything.
will give smart keyboard a try!
thanks for the suggestion.
try this one
http://www.addictivetips.com/?attachment_id=36130
guess it should work (let me know if it does )
and found this on my pc: should be multilangual.. with german if i
remember correctly (flash in recovery)
OR from android market..
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.moo.android.inputmethod.latin.free
grtz

Getting Spanish Keyboard Layout ??

Hi People,
Do you know if it is possible to bouy the keyboard-dock for the AT with spanish layout in the USA?
Greetx!
agromero said:
Hi People,
Do you know if it is possible to bouy the keyboard-dock for the AT with spanish layout in the USA?
Greetx!
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I think we will have to wait for months until spanish dock become available. I'm have preordered UK dock from amazon uk.
After rooting and modding the keymaps, i found out the correct method: go into settings, obviously language, then go to configure input methods then into the 'asus keyboard' options and deselect auto based on system language and either only use or add spanish (us) (spanish spain will change a lot of your symbol buttons, us wont) then when typing, just select the ASUS spanish keyboard (input lang selector in task area), then to do the ñ, hold alt when pushing n, the same is for vowels to get the accent and hold alt+shift for capital letters. ü, Ü are mapped to the y, using the same method also.
There ya go, a method that doesn't require rooting or any of that jazz. I put the effort into figuring this out only because I'm taking spanish classes. this also seems to make it so you can just push ' then the vowel, (like with an actual spanish keyboard) but didn't seem to do that in all apps, honestly I don't like that because i use the apostrophe a lot, but i can just change between eng and esp.
EDIT:
pushing the ' button before the vowel will work in everything it seems, i just didn't notice it until after becuse i had been looking at keymappings and just noticed the alt+key mappings. also ~ before n works, etc... o it's like a spanish keyboard with the added alt+vowel / etc... mapping.
Also, this only works with the ASUS spanish layout, the android spanish keyboard, swype, slideit, etc... will not work with this.
agromero said:
Hi People,
Do you know if it is possible to bouy the keyboard-dock for the AT with spanish layout in the USA?
Greetx!
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Were you able to get it by now? We have it here in Chile.
Enviado desde mi GT-I-9100 usando Tapatalk

[Q] [ANSWERED] how does the bluetooth keyboards work?

I have czech language keyboard layout with 4 rows (1 row is with special characters instead of numbers) so will a bluetooth keyboard work according to chosen SW keyboard layout or is it already set as any bluetooth keyboard is?
Thanks
Answer:
so....have just bought usb host and wireless Logitech MK710 CZ (keyb.+mouse 3 years battery life) works perfect with czech special letters!
So it probably depends on the keyboard. So dont need to invest in a new keyboard
So Android has no competitors ....again
bump...im also interested in this
I have tried it with a USB keyboard but I guess it will be the same on the Bluetooth one. It depends what layout is selected on the Tab - if it is Czech then you will write with this layout. This however works only using Samsung's keyboard or Go Keyboard. When I have selected Swype - the typing is with US layout, no matter which layout was chosen.
Please, could you try Hackers keyboard and set czech language??
Thank you!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.pocketworkstation.pckeyboard
maysider said:
Please, could you try Hackers keyboard and set czech language??
Thank you!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.pocketworkstation.pckeyboard
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Doesn't work, sorry. The top row of the keyboard is typing numbers instead of accented characters.
So,
is there any way to type these characters? Perhaps changing smthin' in the system?
I'm afraid that a keyboard itself must be built for an appropriate language
maysider said:
I'm afraid that a keyboard itself must be built for an appropriate language
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No, this is software issue. Is there a Czech layout for Go Keyboard?
Unfortunately it doesn't have
So is it an android software issue or a keyboard software issue?
It is an issue with the layout, which is in the tablet. I would try searching for a keyboard for the tablet where you can make your layout - map keys to characters. This way you can customize your keyboard as you wish.
so....have just bought usb host and wireless Logitech MK710 CZ (keyb.+mouse) works perfect!
So it probably depends on the keyboard as it should be!

[Q] KCM "type PREDICTIVE" flag and 12-key T9 on Android?

I'm in the minority that I loved my T9 flip phone - I could text on that thing with one hand blindly with no problems. I've never had much luck with the portrait on-screen keyboard. I have MultiLing keyboard for T9, but since there aren't any real buttons, I can't quite type by feel.
It turns out that there have been at least three flip-style Android phones: the Samsung SCH-W899, SCH-999, and GT-B9120. All of them used 12-key input with T9 prediction for typing. I've tried searching for their *.kcm/*.kl files, but the source downloads didn't include them. They make reference to tuttle2.kcm and mahimahi-keypad.kcm (source can be found with Google), but these didn't seem to perform the T9 predictive text input that these phones are supposed to include.
Google's documentation makes reference to a "type PREDICTIVE" flag for *.kcm files, but I can't find any code that uses this flag:
http://source.android.com/tech/input/key-character-map-files.html
My basic question: does the "type PREDICTIVE" flag allow keymaps to provide T9 prediction? If not, how does this work on the Samsung phones? My REAL question: what if I got a Bluetooth numeric keypad and mapped the keys in Android somehow? Could I then create a physical T9 keypad?
Pretty please - don't tell me I'm stupid for liking T9, suggest another keyboard, or point me to Swype. I'd like to figure out a way to code this if possible since it's been a project I've had in my mind for over 2 years now!
Thanks!

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