Disclaimer: I am not a professional reviewer, these are just my observations.
Due to a lack of research on my part, I am currently the owner of both a US and International HTC One X. The short story is that I bought a used ATT One X after looking at the spec sheet, not realizing until after I had received it, that it was essentially half the phone that I was expecting. I didn't read the part about the US version being different. So I then tracked down an international version and have been doing some comparisons.
I have read several places, especially on the xda forums, that the US version is faster than the International version. However, after running several benchmarks, my results do not reflect that, not even remotely. For a comparison, I am including my current Droid RAZR. These are free apps from the Google Play market. These scores are the average of three runs, rounded up.
CF Bench(Higher is better): International - 13231, US - 9496, Droid RAZR - 4692
CPU Benchmark(Lower is better): International - 498ms, US - 602ms, Droid RAZR - 702ms
PassMark CPU Test(Higher is better): International - 7410, US - 3556, Droid RAZR - 3061
PassMark Disk Test(Higher is better): International - 3835, US - 3523, Droid RAZR - 2411
PassMark Memory Test(Higher is better): US - 1635, Droid RAZR - 938, International 920
PassMark 2D Graphics Test(Higher is better): International - 1878, Droid RAZR - 1833, US - 1533
PassMark 3D Graphics Test(Higher is better): International - 716, US - 668, Droid RAZR - 654
Quadrant Standard CPU(Higher is better): International - 13223, US - 8395, Droid RAZR - 4882
Quadrant Standard MEM(Higher is better): US - 7547, International - 3498, Droid RAZR - 2985
Quadrant Standard I/O(Higher is better): International - 5479, US - 3630, Droid RAZR - 2941
Quadrant Standard 2D(Higher is better): International - 1000, US - 990, Droid RAZR - 981
Quadrant Standard 3D(Higher is better): International - 2365, Droid RAZR - 2303, US - 2126
The international version is faster in almost every benchmark with the exception of the Memory(RAM) benchmarks.
My conclusion: People in the US market are getting screwed. The US version is slower(albeit only slightly in some cases), has half the storage space, comes with ATT crapware, and is also slightly slower than my Droid RAZR in some benchmarks.
What are your thoughts?
I've had both and the US version lags WAY more with the intl I had zero lag ever whatsoever. Even battery sucks more on at&t version. The one s was always compared to the one x bc.of the advantage of having the lower res screen helped it be close to X in the benchmarks
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The freaking storage u get on the US version is what 9GB usable? Totally inexcusable, the price is finally where it needs to be, at $99 on contract
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There are three issues with the U.S. One X (which is actually an XL):
- Adreno reserves 350MB of RAM for itself which kills multitasking which isn't too hot to begin with.
- There's 10GB of user available storage.
- The radios (BT & WI-Fi) are having tons more issues than the international version. It could just be AT&T's implementation of them.
If I had to buy a U.S. carrier phone, as much as like the One X, I'd buy an SGS3. There's a 1.7GHz Teg3/Icera LTE XL being tested for use on AT&T. That could be an interesting phone.
Here's something else I've just noticed: In "Settings" under the "Apps" heading and then the "Running" tab, you should get a good idea of how much RAM your phone is using. Both phones are supposed to have 1 GB of RAM. My international HOX shows 541 MB used and 438 MB free for a total off 979 MB(Close enough). My US HOX shows 341MB used and 331 MB free for a total of 672 MB of RAM.
Where is the rest of the RAM on my US HOX?
EDIT: Just saw a previous post that answered my question.
First time i notice this thread and i have to say nice job and thanks :good:
you are basically confirming everything we analysed and predicted in the One X mega information thread
The dual krait snapdragon 4 was over hyped for the sake of competition with Tegra 3, in terms of graphics performance its no match to Tegra 3 on native 720p
Also all this abundance of memory bandwith is not needed unless you are on a quad processor, on the other hand the One X Tegra 3 has no memory bandwidth issues in actually real world due to the massive IO speed
This leaves battery, with the snapdragon 4 One X you are trading screen on times with screen off times on the Tegra 3 One X
Every snapdragon device i ever tested had the problem of drain during screen off, in fact nothing in the android world can match the dead sleep time on Tegra 3 thanks to the low power core
As for heat, things got a lot better in the latest update for the One X and it only appear when you push it hard with heavy games, you should perfectly accept this when you know your buying a quad core on 40nm
Thanks for your tests. Since the tests were made in early August (before post date of 02-Aug-12), that time both HOX had Android 4.03. Now both have 4.04 (Firmware 2.17 for international & 2.20 for US) which, at least for the international version, brought major speed improvements.
hamdir said:
First time i notice this thread and i have to say nice job and thanks :good:
you are basically confirming everything we analysed and predicted in the One X mega information thread
The dual krait snapdragon 4 was over hyped for the sake of competition with Tegra 3, in terms of graphics performance its no match to Tegra 3 on native 720p
Also all this abundance of memory bandwith is not needed unless you are on a quad processor, on the other hand the One X Tegra 3 has no memory bandwidth issues in actually real world due to the massive IO speed
This leaves battery, with the snapdragon 4 One X you are trading screen on times with screen off times on the Tegra 3 One X
Every snapdragon device i ever tested had the problem of drain during screen off, in fact nothing in the android world can match the dead sleep time on Tegra 3 thanks to the low power core
As for heat, things got a lot better in the latest update for the One X and it only appear when you push it hard with heavy games, you should perfectly accept this when you know your buying a quad core on 40nm
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wait till u see tegra 4, 32nm and 1.8ghz quad
as usual, an even more powerful geforce gpu
Here are some more benchmarks. Took screenshots. 1st pic is the US HOX, 2nd one is the Global HOX.
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Hello DuuDe's! 'Sup!?
I know, every device(CellPhone) is best at one department, but i wanna Know: (3 Questions)
1-Wich is the best Device With 512mb of RAM?
2-Wich is the best Device With 768mb of RAM?
3-Wich is the best Device With 1024mb of RAM?
I wanna know all these 3 segments.
The device im seeking, is one that No matter what App or Game i "Trow" to it, it execute it Flawlessly.
And I know, i cant install like 300k apps because that loads the device and lags it, but i know the Ext2/3/4 partition Trick
NOTE: Really dont care too much if its LTE enable or not. If price difference is considerable for just Having LTE i may discard it... All because in my country LTE will arrive in 2016 if not latter :'(
Anyway, if you guys help me with that, I Will be Thankfully
Cheers!
LG Optimus Speed, HTC Sensation, Samsung Galaxy S2
I'd definitely say, the best smartphone (also because it has 1GB RAM) is the Galaxy S2 which runs super smooth and should handle every apps flawlessly (just for some Tegra games you need to install chainfire but the 1.2GHz Dual Core Chip plus Hardware acceleration is awesome).
The number of devices with 768MB RAM isn't that big either, I'd choose the HTC Sensation which also has a 1.2 GHz dual core processor and nice screen and built quality, maybe runs a tiny bit worse that the S2 but it is definitely a great phone which also probably handles apps and games without problems.
The number of devices with 512 MB RAM is endless and the qualities of these devices depend on many things.
They usually handle applications and games (also 3d ones) as they are menu to be- all which is more a matter of the used processor. The best chip in a 512MB RAM phone is in the LG Optimus speed I think (Nvidia Tegra2, dual core) which runs very nice, also with high end Tegra optimized 3d games, and the OS will be even faster if you install CM7. The speed is pretty cheap for a dual core phone btw.
Hope this helps.
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I'd definitely say, the best smartphone (also because it has 1GB RAM) is the Galaxy S2 which runs super smooth and should handle every apps flawlessly (just for some Tegra games you need to install chainfire but the 1.2GHz Dual Core Chip plus Hardware acceleration is awesome).
The number of devices with 768MB RAM isn't that big either, I'd choose the HTC Sensation which also has a 1.2 GHz dual core processor and nice screen and built quality, maybe runs a tiny bit worse that the S2 but it is definitely a great phone which also probably handles apps and games without problems.
The number of devices with 512 MB RAM is endless and the qualities of these devices depend on many things.
They usually handle applications and games (also 3d ones) as they are menu to be- all which is more a matter of the used processor. The best chip in a 512MB RAM phone is in the LG Optimus speed I think (Nvidia Tegra2, dual core) which runs very nice, also with high end Tegra optimized 3d games, and the OS will be even faster if you install CM7. The speed is pretty cheap for a dual core phone btw.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks men, i see more clear now.
The HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio, its worth to expect the release of it?
What do you say? Should i spect 2012 for buy the phone?
All those 3 options, or any Dual-Core phone will last 2 year flawless on executing Apps?
I ask because, i see how the phone world is evolving... Like Gaming on PC, in 6 month u cant play the last games... I don't want giving 500/600 and in 1 year or less i have to change it, cuz lag/Don't Execute
2 years is a very long time
It's impossible to pretend how the whole thing will develop in two years, it's just certain that we will at least have Quadcore chips then (Nvidia's quadcore processor will probably come in the first quarter of 2012 and the devices a little later). And I'm pretty sure that there will be games optimized for this Nvidia chipset which may not run anywhere else- like it's today with the Tegra2. But the number of those games is relatively small (at least now) and most current 3d games with nice graphics van be played on current (or even >1 year old 1GHz) phones, look at the SE Xperia play!
The Sensation XE is no bad choice (1.5GHz Dual Core Snapdragon, 768MB of RAM, but that isn't that hugely important for the choice of games). If you can get it for a good price you won't buy a bad phone with a powerful processor- although I think I'd still prefer the Galaxy S2.
I really can't guarantee that a phone you but today will do everything a new phone maybe be able to do in two years, I'm even sure that a 2013/2014 device will be able to handle things a 2011 phone won't but you shouldn't be too sad about that. The device will still run well in two years and it will probably run 97% of all available games- but I still can't look into the future.
I don't know how long you want to wait with the purchase of your next phone, in a few months there will be certainly better phones- e.g. the next Nexus will be unveiled in some days, not sure what to expect from it, also the price of current flagships will drop.
What might be great for you if you love gaming would be a successor to the Xperia Play but I haven't heard anything about it yet.
I realize that this is the Vibrant forum, but it is the general section... so dont get too pissed about me posting a thread not really vibrant related.
So just thinking about processors (that may come come in the Nexus Prime), the two being rumored are Samsungs Exynos and the TI OMAP, from what i can tell.
How do these processors compare? In general the Exynos is generally regarded as better then the snapdragon (not trying to argue either way), but there are plenty of comparisons and topics on this comparison, but how does the Exynos compare to the OMAP? I can really find too many topics on it..
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Doesn't really matter how it compares right now, because Google can optimize ICS to run fast on Ti-OMAP 4460 while slow on other processors.
The same way when Froyo came out, the Snapdragon processors were able to gain a huge boost in CPU intensive tasks because they took full advantage of the Dalvik optimizations in Froyo. Hummingbird although newer than Snapdragon was not taking full advantage of Dalvik optimizations, thus it ran slower despite being a newer processor.
Nexus Prime running a Ti-Omap 4460 will be faster than any xynos because Google will make sure ICS is perfectly tuned to Ti-OMAP 4460.
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This is assuming nexus prime has a Ti-OMAP 4460.
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Doesn't really matter how it compares right now, because Google can optimize ICS to run fast on Ti-OMAP 4460 while slow on other processors.
The same way when Froyo came out, the Snapdragon processors were able to gain a huge boost in CPU intensive tasks because they took full advantage of the Dalvik optimizations in Froyo. Hummingbird although newer than Snapdragon was not taking full advantage of Dalvik optimizations, thus it ran slower despite being a newer processor.
Nexus Prime running a Ti-Omap 4460 will be faster than any xynos because Google will make sure ICS is perfectly tuned to Ti-OMAP 4460.
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thanks for the response. anyone else have any ideas on the two processors?
So, i watched the presentation last night, i did not see them announce the processor...
have any of the reviews confirmed which processor and GPU?
Its the omap 4460, TI made an announcement on it.Gpu wise its weaker than the exynos in the texture department as it has the sgx540. The biggest advantage it has over the NS or vibrant is the CPU and ram (hardware wise) benching the NS vs the Droid3 or Bionic shows the NS doing fairly close with the differences being probably due to the omap having a higher gpu clock and a processor that can feed the data to the gpu faster.
I can tell you that the chip has great performance, even at that higher resolution, I believe the blackberry playbook has it and that thing runs beautifully =D
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everything i'm reading about the omap is saying it's built for better HD performance, however clocking, number crunching and GPU it's weaker then the exynos found in the sgs II. actually there comparing the gpu to the one found in our Vibrant.
as dismal as this sounds, i'm still going for the Galaxy Nexus due to the stock interface and HD resolution...
or i can wait longer (god knows how much longer) and grab the sgs II HD thats currently only in Korea.
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qoutes from Extremetech website
"So now the OMAP4460 is getting quite a lot of scrutiny, even though it isn’t exactly a new chip. This dual-core SoC is clocked at 1.2GHz, and uses ARM Cortex-A9 architecture, just like the Exynos. That’s not a problem, but the older GPU, the PowerVR SGX540 is. We were hoping for a step up in the graphics department.
Why did Google choose the OMAP for its new Nexus? Well, it might not live up to the high graphical standards set out by the iPhone, but it is a solid chip in its own right. The OMAP4 platform makes use of an additional hardware accelerator called IVA 3 that makes encoding and decoding HD video a snap. The Galaxy Nexus has an HD screen, so this hardware focus on video is a big plus.
Google engineers were likely also drawn to the OMAP for its use of a dual-channel memory controller. Android’s multitasking system means that data is constantly being moved into, and out of, active memory. This is definitely a strength of TI’s OMAP parts"
hopefully that answers some of your questions.
Weak GPU, ****-tastic camera, no microSD slot, small battery, really high pricing (preliminary)...and once again plastic?
I don't get why Google felt they need to repeat the iPhone 4S announcement failure. The screen of the thing is amazing and its OS is. But the actual phone? Not so much.
:/
And I was so hyped about the "One phone to rule them all". . .
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Weak GPU, ****-tastic camera, no microSD slot, small battery, really high pricing (preliminary)...and once again plastic?
I don't get why Google felt they need to repeat the iPhone 4S announcement failure. The screen of the thing is amazing and its OS is. But the actual phone? Not so much.
:/
And I was so hyped about the "One phone to rule them all". . .
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The phone is still worth getting. It will always have the latest version of Android, and Android will run smoothly on it.
I'm never repeating my Vibrant mistake ever again. Running CM-7 with half ass GPS and no 911 calling, no thanks. Next time a Nexus only phone. Just wish it wasn't made by stupid Samsung, errrrr.
Or maybe Motorola phone now that Google owns them, higher chance of getting updates. Just my opinion though.
One last thing. I do agree about the lack of microsd. I was shocked when Nexus S didn't get it, and now again. Hmmmmm. You would think they would want a dev phone to have a microsd slot.
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Weak GPU, ****-tastic camera, no microSD slot, small battery, really high pricing (preliminary)...and once again plastic?
I don't get why Google felt they need to repeat the iPhone 4S announcement failure. The screen of the thing is amazing and its OS is. But the actual phone? Not so much.
:/
And I was so hyped about the "One phone to rule them all". . .
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Weak GPU? It is more than enough to drive a 720p screen at 60fps, as demonstrated consistently throughout the Galaxy Nexus hands-on videos.
How is the camera at all, as you so eloquently put it, '****-tastic'? From what I have seen (and trust me, it isn't nearly enough to make much of an impression to make a final call on its quality), the pictures look decent, with little chroma noise and balanced colours. The zero shutter-lag feature sounds most excellent as well, as most cellphone pictures turn out awful because of the nature of the beast (shaky hands and such). If your judgment is purely based on "Hurr because it's 5MP" then you are a moron.
Though I can lament the loss of a MicroSD card slot, most cards readily available to consumers (read: not newegg or amazon buyers) cannot even fathom being able to record 720p video, much less 1080p featured on the Galaxy Nexus. And using your smartphone as a primary MP3 player is only viable if you have no other use for the phone besides MP3 playing and occasional internet browsing, which would be just a flagrant waste of the ~$80 monthlies people pay for their plans.
And the 1,750mah battery is actually above-average (considering 1,450-1,500mah the standard), along with ICS' built-in 'app-freezing', carrier bloat will never be a cause for unnecessary battery drain again). The battery could last for days depending on your usage (Your mileage may ****ing vary, of course).
Really, high pricing? Really? If the previous two Nexus phones are any indication, it will cost $529 unlocked. Of course, it seems like a lot of money when you work retail or some other **** job, but then you shouldn't be playing with such expensive toys in the first place.
And plastic? Well this explains everything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
Your post gave me cancer.
Camera---Look at the Nexus S photos at Engadget and the Galaxy Nexus ones. They look IDENTICAL except for colors on the GN looking a bit worse actually. Last I remember, the Nexus S camera is on the level of the Vibrant...it's great for a 5MP but its nothing compared to the competition nowdays. Not backlit sensor, not f2.2 or lower, not even high resolution. No shutter lag? I use Camera360 on my Vibrant and have had that feature for MONTHS. As Engadget comments, the no shutter lag is because the camera on the Galaxy Nexus does not focus. It is just NO competition to a Galaxy S2 or Iphone 4S sadly.
GPU-It is a 1.6 or 1.7 times faster than the Vibrant. We already have a good GPU but...for crying out loud. It is half as slow as the Galaxy S2 one. And THAT itself is already getting old...been on the market for over 6 months. Shall we compare to the new iPhone 4S? Difference of 7 TIMES? I HATE iphones but Samsung and Google seriously didn't try here.
Battery. I am CURRENTLY running a Samsung-made OEM 1800mah in my Vibrant. Same size as our original 1500mah. Should I remind you the Vibrant runs on a 4.0 screen and is NOT HD resolution? For a device that is as big as the Galaxy Nexus (4.6 inches) and with that huge and beautiful screen, 1750 is just TINY. At LEAST a good 2000 or more should have been put in it. And its' not impossible to do at all. Samsung HAS the technology. The phone HAS the space. It's fatter than the Galaxy S2 (and godforbid the new Razor)...doesn't have a MicroSD slot. There is no excuse except laziness.
Pricing---Several retailers in Europe have already priced it. Cheapest one is ~700...typical one is 800 and some go all the way up to 950. Look up the gsmarena.com article if you wish. Off contract it will be an arm and a leg. On contract it will be $300. That makes it the MOST expensive phone both on and off contract. $530? Yeah...maybe at that price it would be something to consider but 800? For an amazing screen and software? Heh.
Like I said, the real star of that presentation was the software. Ice Cream sandwich is amazing. GPU Acceleration anyone?
The phone though it comes on? A letdown sadly. Trust me, I was going to buy it. Was waiting for it for 3 months now. No more. May either get a Galaxy S2 now or wait for a Galaxy S2 HD for the Nexus HD screen and the Galaxy S2 performance and features.
In the OMAP 4460, the SGX540 is clocked at 384 MHz which gives it a total output of ~6.2 GFLOPs. In comparison, the Mali-400 MP4 clocked at 200 MHz produces about ~7.2 GFLOPs, and ~10.8 GFLOPs at 300 MHz. So yeah, it's a step back from the Exynos but still very good.
Everything yea saying don't matter its all about optimization an camera looks great to me
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Camera---Look at the Nexus S photos at Engadget and the Galaxy Nexus ones. They look IDENTICAL except for colors on the GN looking a bit worse actually. Last I remember, the Nexus S camera is on the level of the Vibrant...it's great for a 5MP but its nothing compared to the competition nowdays. Not backlit sensor, not f2.2 or lower, not even high resolution. No shutter lag? I use Camera360 on my Vibrant and have had that feature for MONTHS. As Engadget comments, the no shutter lag is because the camera on the Galaxy Nexus does not focus. It is just NO competition to a Galaxy S2 or Iphone 4S sadly.
GPU-It is a 1.6 or 1.7 times faster than the Vibrant. We already have a good GPU but...for crying out loud. It is half as slow as the Galaxy S2 one. And THAT itself is already getting old...been on the market for over 6 months. Shall we compare to the new iPhone 4S? Difference of 7 TIMES? I HATE iphones but Samsung and Google seriously didn't try here.
Battery. I am CURRENTLY running a Samsung-made OEM 1800mah in my Vibrant. Same size as our original 1500mah. Should I remind you the Vibrant runs on a 4.0 screen and is NOT HD resolution? For a device that is as big as the Galaxy Nexus (4.6 inches) and with that huge and beautiful screen, 1750 is just TINY. At LEAST a good 2000 or more should have been put in it. And its' not impossible to do at all. Samsung HAS the technology. The phone HAS the space. It's fatter than the Galaxy S2 (and godforbid the new Razor)...doesn't have a MicroSD slot. There is no excuse except laziness.
Pricing---Several retailers in Europe have already priced it. Cheapest one is ~700...typical one is 800 and some go all the way up to 950. Look up the gsmarena.com article if you wish. Off contract it will be an arm and a leg. On contract it will be $300. That makes it the MOST expensive phone both on and off contract. $530? Yeah...maybe at that price it would be something to consider but 800? For an amazing screen and software? Heh.
Like I said, the real star of that presentation was the software. Ice Cream sandwich is amazing. GPU Acceleration anyone?
The phone though it comes on? A letdown sadly. Trust me, I was going to buy it. Was waiting for it for 3 months now. No more. May either get a Galaxy S2 now or wait for a Galaxy S2 HD for the Nexus HD screen and the Galaxy S2 performance and features.
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lmfao, best post all day. Gotta pay to play and $530 is pocket change for what you're getting in return.
Galaxy Nexus is clearly the device to get imo.
New Galaxy Nexus was just uncovered to only have 768MB RAM. Not a full GB.
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New Galaxy Nexus was just uncovered to only have 768MB RAM. Not a full GB.
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Uncovered by whom?
Probably that's all that is available after boot up.
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New Galaxy Nexus was just uncovered to only have 768MB RAM. Not a full GB.
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It's 1 GB.
My Tab 10.1 only shows 768 MB as well, but it's 1 GB. The Android System uses part of the RAM to operate. The rest you get as free RAM.
How do I know? Supercurio's Twitter.
"supercurio François Simond:
I read several websites listing #GalaxyNexus with 1GB RAM.. hmm, it's not quite what I found. Linux says: 648MB in total, 630 Available""
Now. He further investigated and Samsung did the same thing they did with the Vibrant. All of the memory combined on it is indeed 1GB. HOWEVER, they are reserving a ****load of memory for the GPU and other functions. Hence of that 1GB (the phone DOES have 1GB), on average there is SIGNIFICANTLY less. How much less? Read the Twitter status posted here. This is the equivalent of the HTC Sensation which has 768MB of RAM and actually IS listed to have 768MB.
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How do I know? Supercurio's Twitter.
"supercurio François Simond:
I read several websites listing #GalaxyNexus with 1GB RAM.. hmm, it's not quite what I found. Linux says: 648MB in total, 630 Available""
Now. He further investigated and Samsung did the same thing they did with the Vibrant. All of the memory combined on it is indeed 1GB. HOWEVER, they are reserving a ****load of memory for the GPU and other functions. Hence of that 1GB (the phone DOES have 1GB), on average there is SIGNIFICANTLY less. How much less? Read the Twitter status posted here. This is the equivalent of the HTC Sensation which has 768MB of RAM and actually IS listed to have 768MB.
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Great find. Thank you.
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can anyone point me to some really good hands on videos? i saw the one on phandroid and engadget the night all was announced. but are there any good videos that show a little more in depth?
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How do I know? Supercurio's Twitter.
"supercurio François Simond:
I read several websites listing #GalaxyNexus with 1GB RAM.. hmm, it's not quite what I found. Linux says: 648MB in total, 630 Available""
Now. He further investigated and Samsung did the same thing they did with the Vibrant. All of the memory combined on it is indeed 1GB. HOWEVER, they are reserving a ****load of memory for the GPU and other functions. Hence of that 1GB (the phone DOES have 1GB), on average there is SIGNIFICANTLY less. How much less? Read the Twitter status posted here. This is the equivalent of the HTC Sensation which has 768MB of RAM and actually IS listed to have 768MB.
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Supercurio already has a Galaxy Nexus one day after announcement? Didn't know the devs got it that fast.
Hello,
I was looking to buy the Samsung Galaxy S3 but i'm confused as to which model should I buy. The international model or the North American model.
I cannot upgrade through my carrier (Bell Mobility in Toronto, ON) and hence either one I buy, I'll have to buy from outside.
Is the processor (dual vs quad) along with the RAM the only difference in these two models? If yes, then which one should I go for? Maybe answer in terms on battery life, ROMS available, etc etc. Would the quad core be faster than the dual core with half the RAM?
I have a regular data plan and I won't be thinking about using LTE for now.
Usage wise, I'd say I'm a moderate user and don't play very heavy games, but maybe, occasionally I might play MC3, GTA III etc. Definitely be multitasking a lot and constant texting/facebooking/checking emails etc.
I'm thinking to get the International version! But if the North American version is better, I would go for that.
Thanks
If you aren't using LTE then international model wins hands down.
Faster CPU
Better GPU
Wolfson WM1811 DAC (may not be in US version.)
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It's not 1ghz and 2ghz but 1gb and 2gb of ram. I'm from Canada and I chose the int one because of dev support, better GPU, future quadcore optimization, I don't care about LTE since I have 2GB of data monthly and 3G+ is enough for me. Also audio as nodstuff said, earlier release and finally 1gb is enough, I'm doing heavy multitasking and I never reached the 1GB of ram, the redraw issue can be fixed by editing a file and I'm sure it will be the same for the US version. So yeah int version is the best for me, now you have to find out which one is the best for YOU.
IMO, LTE is not all it's cracked up to be, if you don't have unlimited data then it's not really worth it. I'm not going to sacrifice faster CPU/GPU for a 2GB cap LTE.
Needless to say I got international version.
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IMO, LTE is not all it's cracked up to be, if you don't have unlimited data then it's not really worth it. I'm not going to sacrifice faster CPU/GPU for a 2GB cap LTE.
Needless to say I got international version.
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+1 I also got the international version and I'm on AT&T
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there already is such thread in the general section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683261
also there is no 2ghz vs 1ghz. there is 1gb ram vs 2 gb ram.
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If you aren't using LTE then international model wins hands down.
Faster CPU
Better GPU
Wolfson WM1811 DAC (may not be in US version.)
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1) Faster CPU? R u blind or something - Krait uses a highly modified A15s (which i believe what everyone wanted before Samsung decided to step back and stay on A9s for a bit more) and to be honest it is indeed faster in real life especially when it comes to opening apps (i had a chance to play with 2 devices).
2) GPU is faster on international thou but doubt u would be able to use even half of its power (i still have ipod touch 1gen and it can handle all games except Infinity Blade as long as OS allows on its weak PowerVR MBXLite)
3) Both have Wolfson DAC
4) NA Galaxy S3 has double RAM. If u are a multitasking freak (or use alot of ram hungry apps) then u would see a performance difference. Its also there to feed S4.
5) Krait is more power effecient than exynos when just using HSPA+
6) You have an option to use LTE (battery life will start draining faster however but highly dependent on your network)
With that said Exynos is indeed more optimized (no surprise) so the experience may be slower but ALWAYS fluid. However, nothing that the xda devs cant fix!!
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1) Faster CPU? R u blind or something - Krait uses a highly modified A15s (which i believe what everyone wanted before Samsung decided to step back and stay on A9s for a bit more) and to be honest it is indeed faster in real life especially when it comes to opening apps (i had a chance to play with 2 devices).
2) GPU is faster on international thou but doubt u would be able to use even half of its power (i still have ipod touch 1gen and it can handle all games except Infinity Blade as long as OS allows on its weak PowerVR MBXLite)
3) Both have Wolfson DAC
4) NA Galaxy S3 has double RAM. If u are a multitasking freak (or use alot of ram hungry apps) then u would see a performance difference. Its also there to feed S4.
5) Krait is more power effecient than exynos when just using HSPA+
6) You have an option to use LTE (battery life will start draining faster however but highly dependent on your network)
With that said Exynos is indeed more optimized (no surprise) so the experience may be slower but ALWAYS fluid. However, nothing that the xda devs cant fix!!
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Optimised A-9's built on 32nm Fab. Process with HKMG.
Krait is not more energy efficient, research high k metal gate which is used in the exynos 4412.
As for wolfson DAC, what us your source for that information? Supercurio said that it didn't after he came back from a trip to wolfsons facility in Edinburgh where he went after being invited to share some ideas.
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Xdenwarrior said:
1) Faster CPU? R u blind or something - Krait uses a highly modified A15s (which i believe what everyone wanted before Samsung decided to step back and stay on A9s for a bit more) and to be honest it is indeed faster in real life especially when it comes to opening apps (i had a chance to play with 2 devices).
2) GPU is faster on international thou but doubt u would be able to use even half of its power (i still have ipod touch 1gen and it can handle all games except Infinity Blade as long as OS allows on its weak PowerVR MBXLite)
3) Both have Wolfson DAC
4) NA Galaxy S3 has double RAM. If u are a multitasking freak (or use alot of ram hungry apps) then u would see a performance difference. Its also there to feed S4.
5) Krait is more power effecient than exynos when just using HSPA+
6) You have an option to use LTE (battery life will start draining faster however but highly dependent on your network)
With that said Exynos is indeed more optimized (no surprise) so the experience may be slower but ALWAYS fluid. However, nothing that the xda devs cant fix!!
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Well I'm a multitasking freak and I never reached the 780mb alowed, the ram is managed really well, your argument is invalid.
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Reviewers have already indicated that the NA SIII is indeed faster in regards to cpu and slightly better in battery life. It was also proven that the INT SIII has a significantly better gpu. Nonetheless, both versions are fantastic and have their tradeoffs.
I prefer the international phone. Fast and clean phone, unlimited for $10 with high speed enough for me. Love the battery, last for a long hard day.
Decision Made!!
Thanks for the responses guys!!
I finally got my hands on the International model and been playing with it heavily since today afternoon. They battery was at 54% when I first booted the device. Its been several hours of non-stop usage and the battery life seems to be good. Of course its too early to make any conclusion.
Overall, I'm loving it. Its so smooth!!
So glad I decided to sell my note to get this one. No doubt the note was/still is an excellent device. But I love S3 more!!! <3 :laugh:
roni2915 said:
Thanks for the responses guys!!
I finally got my hands on the International model and been playing with it heavily since today afternoon. They battery was at 54% when I first booted the device. Its been several hours of non-stop usage and the battery life seems to be good. Of course its too early to make any conclusion.
Overall, I'm loving it. Its so smooth!!
So glad I decided to sell my note to get this one. No doubt the note was/still is an excellent device. But I love S3 more!!! <3 :laugh:
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Congratz! I have this beast since monday and I'm using it everyday at work (web browsing, skype, steam, games, watching anime) auto brightness, power saving, 3g and sync always on and I get 13h with 6h30 on screen time when I get home with about 15% left! You can leave power saving even when gaming no lag no slow down, this phone is overpowered
Sent from my beautiful GS3 int unlocked, rooted and beloved.
What's the best data settings on AT&T?
I've had a bunch of data issues with the GS3 stalling out, I've changed from Auto Mode to CDMA and GSM, all don't do much.
I am running the standard APN and my current plan is a LTE unlimited plan since I also have an AT&T HTC One X.
Thanks
The North American S3 does NOT have a Wolfson DAC:
Qualcomm's S4 chipset uses Qualcomm's proprietary audio hub, the WCD9310. This chipset is found in the US versions of the One X, One S, and even Samsung's Galaxy S III (only the international Galaxy S III will have a Wolfson DAC, sorry guys).
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ne-x-isnt-amazing-at-all-even-by-the-numbers/
(Scroll to below the diagram)
We already several of these threads...
That said, international version for all of the reasons previously mentioned.
Damn, for a moment I thought the US version was on par. The upgraded DAC would be nice.
What about gorilaglass2 ?!?!
There are a lot of videos and comments, about International version don't have Gorilaglass2, what is proven to be on US version!!!
Honestly if you are not going to us LTE then there should be no discussion about it. The international version is an amazing phone and I got it because I also don't care for LTE. If I did then I would look into the pros and cons for both versions. Since your not using LTE then looking at pros and cons is just invalid because overall international version is more optimized and even the largest multitasking user will reach MAX of 850MB... honestly. Hope it helped.
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Marne Jr said:
There are a lot of videos and comments, about International version don't have Gorilaglass2, what is proven to be on US version!!!
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That is incorrect, ALL variants have gorilla glass 2. Stop talking ****.
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Source : http://mblog.gsmarena.com/htc-droid-dna-snapdragon-s4-pro-chipset-performance-examined-in-detail/
BenchmarkPi : 263
We started with the
BenchmarkPi test, which
reflects per-core CPU
performance. As expected
the Krait architecture
helped the DROID DNA
beat its quad-core rivals.
More impressively,
though, it managed to
beat the LG Optimus G
despite packing identical
CPU cores as the LG
flagship.
Linpack:602
Linpack is another CPU-
testing benchmark, but it
supports multi-threading
and thus brings a better
idea of the quad-core
architecture overall
processing power. Here
the HTC DROID DNA lost
to the Optimus G by a
very small margin, but
blew the rest of the
competitors out of the
water.
Quadrant:8513
The Quadrant benchmark
tries to evaluate the
overall processing power
of the chipset – CPU,
GPU and memory
performance. The HTC
DROID DNA managed to
top the competition here,
which is a really
impressive achievement
given that its screen
resolution poses a bigger
challenge to the graphical
power.
Antutu:11551
The HTC DROID DNA
didn’t do as well in
AnTuTu, which is our
other all-round
benchmark. The
smartphone did beat the
LG Optimus G and the
Galaxy S III, but came
behind the rest of the
quad-core top dogs .
Glbenchmark2.5(1080p off screen):30
The 3D graphics
department is handled by
the Adreno 320 GPU. The
first test we ran was
NenaMark 2, but just like
its competitors the HTC
DROID DNA managed to
hit the 60fps limit of the
screen, rendering the
results moot.
GLBenchmark let us get a
better idea of the
graphics power of the
DROID DNA – the
smartphone got the
highest score of any
smartphone we have
tested so far. Given that
its screen resolution is
much higher than its
competitors, though it’s
can’t compete as
successfully in on-screen
tests.
Sunspider:1421
Browsermark:140270
The only area of the HTC
DROID DNA performance
that wasn’t exactly
inspiring were the browser
tests. The smartphone
came some way off the
leaders in both SunSpider
and BrowserMark, which
is rather hard to
understand given that it
runs Android Jelly Bean
and has its optimized
JavaScript engine. We
suspect this is caused by
some kind of driver issue
that the relatively new
Snapdragon S4 Pro
chipset has and we
expect to see better
results from it in the
future.
nikufellow said:
Source : http://mblog.gsmarena.com/htc-droid-dna-snapdragon-s4-pro-chipset-performance-examined-in-detail/
BenchmarkPi : 263
We started with the
BenchmarkPi test, which
reflects per-core CPU
performance. As expected
the Krait architecture
helped the DROID DNA
beat its quad-core rivals.
More impressively,
though, it managed to
beat the LG Optimus G
despite packing identical
CPU cores as the LG
flagship.
Linpack:602
Linpack is another CPU-
testing benchmark, but it
supports multi-threading
and thus brings a better
idea of the quad-core
architecture overall
processing power. Here
the HTC DROID DNA lost
to the Optimus G by a
very small margin, but
blew the rest of the
competitors out of the
water.
Quadrant:8513
The Quadrant benchmark
tries to evaluate the
overall processing power
of the chipset – CPU,
GPU and memory
performance. The HTC
DROID DNA managed to
top the competition here,
which is a really
impressive achievement
given that its screen
resolution poses a bigger
challenge to the graphical
power.
Antutu:11551
The HTC DROID DNA
didn’t do as well in
AnTuTu, which is our
other all-round
benchmark. The
smartphone did beat the
LG Optimus G and the
Galaxy S III, but came
behind the rest of the
quad-core top dogs .
Glbenchmark2.5(1080p off screen):30
The 3D graphics
department is handled by
the Adreno 320 GPU. The
first test we ran was
NenaMark 2, but just like
its competitors the HTC
DROID DNA managed to
hit the 60fps limit of the
screen, rendering the
results moot.
GLBenchmark let us get a
better idea of the
graphics power of the
DROID DNA – the
smartphone got the
highest score of any
smartphone we have
tested so far. Given that
its screen resolution is
much higher than its
competitors, though it’s
can’t compete as
successfully in on-screen
tests.
Sunspider:1421
Browsermark:140270
The only area of the HTC
DROID DNA performance
that wasn’t exactly
inspiring were the browser
tests. The smartphone
came some way off the
leaders in both SunSpider
and BrowserMark, which
is rather hard to
understand given that it
runs Android Jelly Bean
and has its optimized
JavaScript engine. We
suspect this is caused by
some kind of driver issue
that the relatively new
Snapdragon S4 Pro
chipset has and we
expect to see better
results from it in the
future.
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Awesome what about geekbench 2?
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Don't know mate will let you know if i get that from any other sources .
Btw gb 2.5 is there in the list !
nikufellow said:
Don't know mate will let you know if i get that from any other sources .
Btw gb 2.5 is there in the list !
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Oh didn't see that.
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Is this what you are looking for?
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Hey thanks north
Hi. I am going to get a new phone, I am coming off of a Motorola Photon Q. I'm looking for a new phone and I don't really know which ones to get, I have a couple of them at the bottom. I am a moderate user. I text mildly, watch some youtube videos, etc. But I do like playing high-end games. My old Photon Q has an adreno 225, and it strains on playing MC4, around 13 FPS give or take.
The keyboard also just doesn't do much anymore and with 4 GB or storage, I can get one high-end game. -.-. I am considering these phones:
Htc One X+ - Because of good Tegra 3 clocked at 1700 and 64 GB space
Htc Droid DNA - Because of very good screen, but GPU might not be good enough for high end games? (Modern Combat, Asphalt, etc.)
Nexus 4 - Because cheap xD, GPU won't have as much strain on the lower resolution.
LG-G2 - 2300??? S800???? ADRENO330??? OF COURSE!
I haven't researched that many phones. (Only about 15 in-depth) so what is your opinion on these 4 phones? Any suggestions otherwise?
My budget is really around ~400 so the LG-G2 is like a dream haha...
Well thanks in advance!
Don't get a Tegra 3 for gaming. It's slow and it heats up.
Get a phone with a Adreno 320 GPU, they can deliver some power and are far more powerfull than a Tegra 3 with an ancient GPU.
Nexus 4 and HTC Droid DNA both have limited 16gb storage, which will become annoying.
For cheap gaming get a Oppo 5 or LG Optimus G. 32gb and adreno 320.
One X+ is perfect for everything else than gaming. Like music, 64gb and quality output.
havoklant said:
Don't get a Tegra 3 for gaming. It's slow and it heats up.
Get a phone with a Adreno 320 GPU, they can deliver some power and are far more powerfull than a Tegra 3 with an ancient GPU.
Nexus 4 and HTC Droid DNA both have limited 16gb storage, which will become annoying.
For cheap gaming get a Oppo 5 or LG Optimus G. 32gb and adreno 320.
One X+ is perfect for everything else than gaming. Like music, 64gb and quality output.
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AFAIK Droid DNA has external card slot...
I'd wait until the next HTC device comes out with a snapdragon 800 processor. Do some research into that and you'll quickly see why. I'm not talking about HTC's pianist phone the One Macs but soon after that they will have an actual phone size device with same specs. Maybe 4th quarter this year but will well worth the wait. I jumped the gun and got the one x+. Great phone for everything but gaming but if I waited just a few more months I could have gotten the HTC One that is better than Tue one x+ in every way except maybe the size of memory but 32g is more than enough for me personally. Just my input, don't rush cus a few months later a much better device will come out and you'll be like damn, should have waited.
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Don't buy a Tegra-powered phone if you want to play Gameloft games (no, I'm not advertising or anything!) E.g. asphalt 7 with this phone around 15 fps. Strangely, mc4 (fun game ) hangs around 40fps! I recommend you to buy a Snapdragon phone instead.
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havoklant said:
Don't get a Tegra 3 for gaming. It's slow and it heats up.
Get a phone with a Adreno 320 GPU, they can deliver some power and are far more powerfull than a Tegra 3 with an ancient GPU.
Nexus 4 and HTC Droid DNA both have limited 16gb storage, which will become annoying.
For cheap gaming get a Oppo 5 or LG Optimus G. 32gb and adreno 320.
One X+ is perfect for everything else than gaming. Like music, 64gb and quality output.
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My att hox+ plays all games smoothly I never had lag
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Tegra 3 is a very inefficient chip. It just isn't meant for gaming. As others have pointed out, if you're gaming then you're much better off with an Adreno 320 or better.