Folks, please give me a hand!
I have the Note from Rogers Canada, upgraded to CM9 release, my provider is Fido, and I'm struggling with getting VoIP work over 3G.
1. Native ICS client. It's OK on WiFi, and on 3G the call is being established in and out, but no sound either direction. I heard 3G calling was blocked in GB client, and there was even a method tweaking the APK to make it work, but obviously something is very different in ICS - that tweak is not applicable - I can't find proper file in this APK.
2. cSipSimple - does not work at all, makes the phone acting weird. Well, last update was in 2011, maybe not compatible with ICS at all.
3. SipDroid - crashes.
4. Dell Voice - crashes.
My provider is freephoneline.ca, and I'm testing VoIP with it without success. I'm a network engineer with rich VoIP experience, and run at home a sophisticated FreePBX setup accessible from Internet. I've tried to register my Note on my home PBX as an extension, and I see same behavior - phones ring, calls establish, but no sound.
I don't understand where's the trouble exactly. Is it the Note, or CM9, or my provider is allowing SIP but blocking RTP? I see that all three Fido's APNs are doing NAT, because the phone shows the registered IP that is different from what I see in whatismyip. Could it be the problem? Problems with NATting RTP usually result in no inbound voice, but outbound should be OK...
I wonder if there's a packet sniffer for Android so I could check the traces, LOL.
Whoever has some success doing SIP calling over Rogers/Fido 3G, please help me out.
Thanks!
Shameless self-bump.
Guys, I wonder if nobody knows, or nobody cares? I know it's most likely wrong forum to ask, please push me in right direction...
esokolov said:
Folks, please give me a hand!
I have the Note from Rogers Canada, upgraded to CM9 release, my provider is Fido, and I'm struggling with getting VoIP work over 3G.
1. Native ICS client. It's OK on WiFi, and on 3G the call is being established in and out, but no sound either direction. I heard 3G calling was blocked in GB client, and there was even a method tweaking the APK to make it work, but obviously something is very different in ICS - that tweak is not applicable - I can't find proper file in this APK.
2. cSipSimple - does not work at all, makes the phone acting weird. Well, last update was in 2011, maybe not compatible with ICS at all.
3. SipDroid - crashes.
4. Dell Voice - crashes.
My provider is freephoneline.ca, and I'm testing VoIP with it without success. I'm a network engineer with rich VoIP experience, and run at home a sophisticated FreePBX setup accessible from Internet. I've tried to register my Note on my home PBX as an extension, and I see same behavior - phones ring, calls establish, but no sound.
I don't understand where's the trouble exactly. Is it the Note, or CM9, or my provider is allowing SIP but blocking RTP? I see that all three Fido's APNs are doing NAT, because the phone shows the registered IP that is different from what I see in whatismyip. Could it be the problem? Problems with NATting RTP usually result in no inbound voice, but outbound should be OK...
I wonder if there's a packet sniffer for Android so I could check the traces, LOL.
Whoever has some success doing SIP calling over Rogers/Fido 3G, please help
Thanks!
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I had a similar setup on Telus, and everything works alright. And then I tried Rogers 3G, there is only one way audio, I can't hear anything. But the other side can hear me. And also, my phone can't receive incoming either.
It's probably a problem/restriction with Rogers.
thunderzhao said:
I had a similar setup on Telus, and everything works alright. And then I tried Rogers 3G, there is only one way audio, I can't hear anything. But the other side can hear me. And also, my phone can't receive incoming either.
It's probably a problem/restriction with Rogers.
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Confirmed, with latest CSipSimple nightly build (Jeez, they didn't release since 2011!!!) I was able to make calls, now with one way audio (out), outbound but not incoming calls, and if the remote party hangs, the phone does not detect it.
Those symptoms are familiar - NAT can't properly handle UDP inwards. Both SIP and RTP are affected. Enabling STUN did not help either.
Well, I'm going to buy data only SIM from Bell, stay tuned...
esokolov said:
Confirmed, with latest CSipSimple nightly build (Jeez, they didn't release since 2011!!!) I was able to make calls, now with one way audio (out), outbound but not incoming calls, and if the remote party hangs, the phone does not detect it.
Those symptoms are familiar - NAT can't properly handle UDP inwards. Both SIP and RTP are affected. Enabling STUN did not help either.
Well, I'm going to buy data only SIM from Bell, stay tuned...
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bell will definitely work, their 3G network is just not as good as rogers'
Linphone can receive incoming, but one way audio too
thunderzhao said:
bell will definitely work, their 3G network is just not as good as rogers'
Linphone can receive incoming, but one way audio too
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Well, recently I've been at Rock Point (Lake Eerie), and both my personal Note (Fido) and business Blackberry (Rogers) had no signal on 3G and even GSM, while my friend was chattering and browsing on his Bell connected phone... Maybe Bell's 3G coverage is spotty, but so is Rogers. I've seen too many times that Rogers drops to GSM with no apparent reason, and that means no decent data for VoIP.
We'll see. I'm aiming at LTE anyways, and Bell's LTE spot is WAY bigger according to their official coverage maps.
Someone has to be a guinea pig for new technologies. I hate the idea of paying $70 for CityFido + data, while I could pay $25-$35 for Bell's flex plus $0 for FreePhoneLine.
esokolov said:
Well, recently I've been at Rock Point (Lake Eerie), and both my personal Note (Fido) and business Blackberry (Rogers) had no signal on 3G and even GSM, while my friend was chattering and browsing on his Bell connected phone... Maybe Bell's 3G coverage is spotty, but so is Rogers. I've seen too many times that Rogers drops to GSM with no apparent reason, and that means no decent data for VoIP.
We'll see. I'm aiming at LTE anyways, and Bell's LTE spot is WAY bigger according to their official coverage maps.
Someone has to be a guinea pig for new technologies. I hate the idea of paying $70 for CityFido + data, while I could pay $25-$35 for Bell's flex plus $0 for FreePhoneLine.
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finally got it working on rogers 3g with pbxes.org, and then add freephoneline as a truck, csipsimple works fine
thunderzhao said:
finally got it working on rogers 3g with pbxes.org, and then add freephoneline as a truck, csipsimple works fine
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Hmmm, I wonder how you did it, can't make it work.
Okay, now I'm on Bell 3G (no LTE yet).
1. Registering with FPL directly gives me outbound calls OK, inbound call get voicemail (on 3G), STUN has no effect. WiFi calling is fine.
2. Registering through PBXes and FPL - outbound calls even to VM gives me "488 / Not acceptable here" on 3G, works OK on WiFi. Incoming calls make my cell ring, but when I pick up the call I'm getting same 488 on 3G. What's wrong here?
Will try it on Fido 3G...
esokolov said:
Hmmm, I wonder how you did it, can't make it work.
Okay, now I'm on Bell 3G (no LTE yet).
1. Registering with FPL directly gives me outbound calls OK, inbound call get voicemail (on 3G), STUN has no effect. WiFi calling is fine.
2. Registering through PBXes and FPL - outbound calls even to VM gives me "488 / Not acceptable here" on 3G, works OK on WiFi. Incoming calls make my cell ring, but when I pick up the call I'm getting same 488 on 3G. What's wrong here?
Will try it on Fido 3G...
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488 means incompatible codec, pbxes only accept ilbc,
Are you using csipsimple?
thunderzhao said:
488 means incompatible codec, pbxes only accept ilbc,
Are you using csipsimple?
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Yes, and it was a CSipSimple glitch.
By default it has SILK + PCMU + PCMA. I've left only PCMU and it stopped working on 3G only (WiFi was OK). Resetting CSipSimple to defaults resolved it. Weird...
BTW I doubt that PBXes only accepts ILBC, there's quite a number of codecs mentioned in their online help.
thunderzhao said:
finally got it working on rogers 3g with pbxes.org, and then add freephoneline as a truck, csipsimple works fine
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I've managed to recreate this eventually. I don't know what's so special about PBXes, but yes it works fine with both Fido and Bell 3G. Thanks for the clue! Looks like I'm going to eliminate my home FreePBX and switch to PBXes.
However, sound is choppy like hell on both, barely usable. And I'm still struggling to get LTE on Bell's SIM, hope it will improve things.
One more question - phonebook in my Android has all the numbers in international format - +1-xxx-xxx-xxxx, +7-xxx-xxx-xxxx etc. When I dial directly from my address book into CSipSiple->PBXes->FPL, FPL rejects the call saying it's not covered by my plan. I believe I need substitute +1 with 1, +7 with 0117 and so on, but how do I do this? PBXes is based on FreePBX, and its rules use + as a special character for adding prefixes I believe...
esokolov said:
Yes, and it was a CSipSimple glitch.
By default it has SILK + PCMU + PCMA. I've left only PCMU and it stopped working on 3G only (WiFi was OK). Resetting CSipSimple to defaults resolved it. Weird...
BTW I doubt that PBXes only accepts ILBC, there's quite a number of codecs mentioned in their online help.
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you are right, pbxes accept pcmu as well, but i thought it's too heavy for 3g, they allow g729a "PASSTHU" only to paid users.
for the choppiness, sip require packets loss way lower than 1%, i'm still trying to figure out what to do about that
esokolov said:
I've managed to recreate this eventually. I don't know what's so special about PBXes, but yes it works fine with both Fido and Bell 3G. Thanks for the clue! Looks like I'm going to eliminate my home FreePBX and switch to PBXes.
However, sound is choppy like hell on both, barely usable. And I'm still struggling to get LTE on Bell's SIM, hope it will improve things.
One more question - phonebook in my Android has all the numbers in international format - +1-xxx-xxx-xxxx, +7-xxx-xxx-xxxx etc. When I dial directly from my address book into CSipSiple->PBXes->FPL, FPL rejects the call saying it's not covered by my plan. I believe I need substitute +1 with 1, +7 with 0117 and so on, but how do I do this? PBXes is based on FreePBX, and its rules use + as a special character for adding prefixes I believe...
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for the number formats, since i have all numbers stored on google voice, i went there and deleted all "+" and "-"
in csipsimple, there's an option called filter, i think you can reformat there
a few more tweaks for the choppiness, I disabled echo cancelling since sound from ear piece is not likely to reach microphone.
I also have trouble with the new csipsimple, when i use ilbc, it will freeze after about 30 seconds.
if you directly connect to freephoneline.ca, you need to use PCMU in order to receive phone call over 3G, somehow freephoneline disabled g729a on incoming calls.
so much for today's tweaking. good luck, let me know what you find out
thunderzhao said:
you are right, pbxes accept pcmu as well, but i thought it's too heavy for 3g, they allow g729a "PASSTHU" only to paid users.
for the choppiness, sip require packets loss way lower than 1%, i'm still trying to figure out what to do about that
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SIP as signalling protocol is doing fine. RTP transport for audio is a problem.
I believe nothing can be done over 3G. I'm trying to make it work over LTE - it's supposed to be much better.
However I figured out that unlocked I717R (Rogers) does not connect to Bell's LTE cloud however it should.
I'm going to flash the Bell's radio and try again. I wonder if there's just Bell's baseband for ICS I can download and burn with Odin. I have only found full stock ICS for Bell, and that's a long and messy update path.
esokolov said:
SIP as signalling protocol is doing fine. RTP transport for audio is a problem.
I believe nothing can be done over 3G. I'm trying to make it work over LTE - it's supposed to be much better.
However I figured out that unlocked I717R (Rogers) does not connect to Bell's LTE cloud however it should.
I'm going to flash the Bell's radio and try again. I wonder if there's just Bell's baseband for ICS I can download and burn with Odin. I have only found full stock ICS for Bell, and that's a long and messy update path.
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not very experienced with radio band and stuff, but have you tried getril? heard it's a very easy app to do this
Galaxy Note not supported yet.
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thunderzhao said:
good luck, let me know what you find out
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Ok, another report.
1. After upgrading radio from Rogers to Bell, Bell LTE is pretty solid and stable while I'm in GTA.
2. Generally, VoIP over 3G is crap, both Bell and Fido/Rogers. VoIP over LTE is mostly OK. No surprise.
3. CSipSimple cannot properly handle Bluetooth handover. By some reason, the call always starts on speakerphone, then has to be routed manually either to BT or earpiece.
4. SIP keepalives are draining battery really fast, no matter if it's Wifi, 3G, or LTE.
5. PBXes.org is GROSS... I've stopped and dismissed my home FreePBX.
Fido has just started offering LTE. Tonight will try and upgrade my SIM card. I wonder though if I need to flash my radio back to Rogers to make it work...
General conclusion - VoIP over cell data is not ready yet for general use. However, geeks like me can save a few cents...
A few questions:
1. Is it possible to block voice cellular calls in and out? My Bell SIM card 'for tablets' still allows voice calls, and every time I'm hitting the wrong button I'm making 40 cents pay-per-minute charge. Customer service says it cannot be blocked on their side.
2. Is there any way to route SMS messages to VoIP and vice versa?
3. Is there a number portability between cell networks and VoIP operators (Canada and US, just to see a big picture)?
I believe this discussion is off-topic here. Can someone suggest a proper forum?
if you use csipsimple, you can disable mobile, if you use stock phone app, you can set use internet call only.
fongo supports sms now, i use google voice, with simonics
canadian numbers can port to fongo, US number can port to google voice
esokolov said:
Ok, another report.
1. After upgrading radio from Rogers to Bell, Bell LTE is pretty solid and stable while I'm in GTA.
2. Generally, VoIP over 3G is crap, both Bell and Fido/Rogers. VoIP over LTE is mostly OK. No surprise.
3. CSipSimple cannot properly handle Bluetooth handover. By some reason, the call always starts on speakerphone, then has to be routed manually either to BT or earpiece.
4. SIP keepalives are draining battery really fast, no matter if it's Wifi, 3G, or LTE.
5. PBXes.org is GROSS... I've stopped and dismissed my home FreePBX.
Fido has just started offering LTE. Tonight will try and upgrade my SIM card. I wonder though if I need to flash my radio back to Rogers to make it work...
General conclusion - VoIP over cell data is not ready yet for general use. However, geeks like me can save a few cents...
A few questions:
1. Is it possible to block voice cellular calls in and out? My Bell SIM card 'for tablets' still allows voice calls, and every time I'm hitting the wrong button I'm making 40 cents pay-per-minute charge. Customer service says it cannot be blocked on their side.
2. Is there any way to route SMS messages to VoIP and vice versa?
3. Is there a number portability between cell networks and VoIP operators (Canada and US, just to see a big picture)?
I believe this discussion is off-topic here. Can someone suggest a proper forum?
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thunderzhao said:
if you use csipsimple, you can disable mobile, if you use stock phone app, you can set use internet call only.
fongo supports sms now, i use google voice, with simonics
canadian numbers can port to fongo, US number can port to google voice
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Thanks thunderzhao!
At the moment I decided to stop my VoIP over cellular experiments, this is not productive.
First, Fido has just offered unlimited national calling + 2Gb of data + convenience pack, all for $56, and it's a killer.
Second, new mobile version of Skype, however not SIP based, is soooo much simpler to deal with than SIP solutions. It has a super clear voice Skype-to-Skype (and video too), works seamlessly over firewalls and NAT, and has a decent quality over both HSPA and LTE.
Third, VoLTE is on the horizon (so I believe), and it will completely change the landscape of mobile services, plans, and prices.
Switching to waiting mode.
Fongo crashes on cm but works fine for me on cm10 and most touchwiz ICS ROMs.
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I have a Siemens SX56 using AT&T Wireless as a carrier.
The phone is running the following:
ROM Verison: 3.14.03 ENG
ROM Date: 09/27/02
Radio Version: 6.12
Protocol Version: 324e4
My question is:
I would like to connect to a traditional ISP. I have talked to AT&T and they said when I go to the internet, I have to connect using their GPRS network. They said that if I used another ISP I would not have to pay them to use the internet. DUH! this is what I want to do. Any advice would be appreciated...
Thanks!!!
Bob
You can connect to the Internet using GPRS. This, in essence, would make AT&T your Internet Provider. You can choose to get your mail at your existing provider (but you must use AT&T's server for outbound mail). Other than that, your 'normal' ISP has nothing to do with you once you connect through AT&T using GPRS.
You could, theoretically, also connect using the GSM as an ordinary modem, by dialing your old ISP, making what's called a 'GSM data call'. This would however limit throughput to roughly 9600 bps, and it would not have the nice 'always on' property of GPRS. It would be cheaper per bit (in most cases) for large downloads though. Go figure.
i want to make a gsm data call
I do want to make a GSM data call. at&t charges an arm and a leg for data access, that usimg my regular ISP even at 9600 baud would be great.
when I try to set up anything other than GPRS, it says "there is no answer". I called siemens and the said at&t disabled anything other than GPRS.
what I want to know is can I enable that ability which I know the phone can do?
Thanks
Bob
GSM data calls can be made from most phones, but AT&T may have disabled this call type for anyone but those paying for a 'data subscription'. With most providers a data subscription just means you get a seperate phone number in order to be able to receive incoming calls from analogue modems.
GSM providers are weird. For instance O2 in The Netherlands blocks fax calls for some unknown reason, but passes GSM data calls.
I must not be clear...
OK... I must not be clear, so I will try to be more clear in my question.
First a little background:
I have AT&T wireless with a data subscription. My current subscription is for 8 Megabytes per month. I would like to use the web, but with only an 8 Megabyte limit (which is AT&T's highest data level subscription that you can buy) I can not do much on the Internet.
I know that a GSM data call is slower. I know that it is not always on like GPRS. Because of the data limit of my current AT&T data subscription I want to make a data call from my phone to my ISP.
I have setup a ISP connection profile in the connections area on the phone. When I dial the ISP the phone responds with a message that says "the number you dialed is not answering" this is a text based message, not a voice message. I know the phone is answering because I can call it from my home pc or just dial it from the cell phone and it answers. I was told by siemens that AT&T turned the GSM Data portion of the phone off. I am hoping they turned it off with software and its a setting or something I can change in the registry to enable it again.
So in summary:
I do pay for a GPRS data subscription ($25.00 for 8 Megabytes / month)
I would really like to also use GSM data as an option for getting to the Internet when I do not want to use up my 8 Megabyte limit on GPRS.
I really have appreciated your comments and your help. I hope I am being more clear in my question now.
Thanks,
Bob
I'll try to be more clear as well then...
Try calling your provider and see whether they support GSM data calls from 'normal' subscriptions. And with normal subscription, I'm not talking about whether or not the subscription has GPRS, but I mean any subscription that doesn't get you a special phone number for incoming data calls.
There's plenty of providers that do not provide normal data calls, even to subscribers that pay extra to get GPRS. Most of this practice did end when WAP was believed to become big, but some may have limited data calls to their own WAP access numbers.
Should your provider still offer separate numbers for analogue and ISDN, try calling both types to see what happens, and do play around with both call types (analogue & ISDN) from your XDA. (Under 'Settings' / 'Connections' / 'CSD Line Type' in modern ROMs)
Good Luck...
Similar issues
I am trying to do the same thing with my 02 XDA, and i get the same message saying it is not answering. However, i can dial my ISP using a GSM connection, as i have done this using my nokia 7650 connected via IRDA to my PC, and useing it as a modem. However i cannot get the same connection to work using my XDA. Very strange, so if anyone can help.
[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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pyrusman said:
[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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In terms of GPS, you are correct, you would have to purchase a third party GPS app for that (since google maps doesn't cache. Well it does, but if you find yourself lost after choosing a route and don't have wifi available then you are forced to turn on data so it can redownload your route, since it only caches your route and nearby streets.) To block incoming phone calls you just set up unconditional call forwarding (**21*18056377243# send) which will forward all of your calls to VoiceMail. The 1805 number can be replaced with your VM provider of choice (ie Google voice.) To undo, just dial ##21# and send. After that just disable data roaming and you are good.
In terms of stopping IM/SMS/MMS, just have care add message blocking (or better yet, go to your tmobile account and add it from there) its a free service that blocks all incoming or outgoing sms/mms/email as sms/IM. Sometimes the reps will just add the sms/mms block so you might want to add it yourself from the site.
Also if you purchased the vibrant on a contract then you can't remove your data.
pyrusman said:
[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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Or if you want to keep the FULL functionality of your phone while traveling internationally you could buy a prepaid SIM for a carrier in the country you're visiting.
Col.Kernel said:
Or if you want to keep the FULL functionality of your phone while traveling internationally you could buy a prepaid SIM for a carrier in the country you're visiting.
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this ^^
If you did not want to get a SIM, you could just take your t-mo sim out. This way you could still use wifi, then use Google voice for texts and VM.
From my understanding, the wifi calling app from US Tmobile only works for US Tmobile customers, correct me if i'm wrong.
Is there any way to import this app to another region Defy (mines from UK) and get it working on any network?
Foxhound.kl said:
From my understanding, the wifi calling app from US Tmobile only works for US Tmobile customers, correct me if i'm wrong.
Is there any way to import this app to another region Defy (mines from UK) and get it working on any network?
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No because no UK Networks support it.
I have a Fritz!Box Wlan DSL router from AVM.
This thing is absolutely cool as they provide an app to make/receive
calls over wifi. (FritzFon App)
You can route analog/ISDN/Voip telephone lines to the Defy over Wifi.
If your normal phone rings, your Defy rings also
The Fritz!Box routers are popular in germany, don't know in what other countries
they are sold.
May also work from outside via VPN, but i never tried.
-={antibyte}=- said:
May also work from outside via VPN, but i never tried.
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Yeah, this is a great App! Maybe I'll try the VPN option, since it would be a great way to get around call forwarding.
BTW: The app is working great with a FB 7170 as well as with FB 7390
How about Skype?
Or for that matter, Google Voice? http://www.google.com/mobile/voice/
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No because no UK Networks support it.
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Actually, Orange supports UMA in the UK.
Not sure if the T-Mobile USA wi-fi app would work with it though - maybe trying to get ahold of a compatible app from an Orange-branded Android handset would be a better bet.
Of course, that doesn't help anyone on any of the other UK networks.
rob-t said:
Or for that matter, Google Voice? http://www.google.com/mobile/voice/
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Not outside the US.
I use succesfully yahoo messenger with voice(taked from market)
in a call from europe to us
call was made from defy to a pc
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where can i get the apk for the wifi calling?
Just get Sipdroid from the Market. You can register it with any sip server (in my case Voipbuster so I can make calls to many countries for virtually nothing, and people from Holland can call me on my Dutch 'landline' number no matter where I am ). The program integrates in the dialer and you can set it to automatic or manual. I set it so that every time I put a # at the end of a number it uses voip. Works great over wifi. Haven't tried calling over 2G yet. No 3G available here.
For SIP VoIP, CSIPSimple has more codec support than SIPDroid which may or may not be important for some people. Depends on the internet reliability and speeds which are available to you.
But because of how SIP works, there are still some niggling issues with battery life in some configurations as it needs to keep alive a connection in order to receive calls. Personally I'm only using it to dial out to landlines on demand at a cheaper rate than mobile.
Sipdroid works quite well over 3G as does Skype. 2G is rather pushing it but some claim they have had decent results. Both of them use quite a lot of juice though.
The main problem with Sipdroid is lack of echo cancelation so should help to use a headset. Skype is a lot better in that regard
I pay for T-Mobile (US, on a Rogers Lumia) tethering, and it's been working great for me on HSPA+. Had to do the keyboard trick a few times to get it working since I installed Access Point some time ago, but otherwise fine.
A few days ago my area got refarmed with LTE, which gives a new indicator by the signal bar ('LTE') and also is resulting in some nice speeds.
The problem is, it's creating a new tethering issue. When I'm on an LTE signal and try to enable Internet Sharing, I get a message about 'not having a cell connection'. I do seem to have one, as I can make and receive calls just fine, and data works fine as well. This is a new message. If I'm in an area with just HSPA+ sharing works again.
Is this a Rogers ROM restriction, an Access Point restriction, or an issue on Tmo's end? Hopefully not the latter, I don't think I'm going to get anywhere with a rep on this issue.
Don't install Access Point app, it disables the internet sharing option.
rush_ad said:
Don't install Access Point app, it disables the internet sharing option.
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Yeah, I realize that, and have been able to get around that message with the 'foreign keyboard' hack, but the message I'm getting now is different than that one, and the hack doesn't affect it.
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Yeah, I realize that, and have been able to get around that message with the 'foreign keyboard' hack, but the message I'm getting now is different than that one, and the hack doesn't affect it.
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Factory reset the phone, didn't install access point, same issue. I can enable tethering on 4G but as soon as I get an LTE signal, tethering is blocked in the Internet Sharing settings page with a message saying "no cell connection found" or something similar, even though I have both a working LTE connection and cell connection on the phone.
Rogers ROM issue, maybe?
Factory reset doesn't help?
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Factory reset the phone, didn't install access point, same issue. I can enable tethering on 4G but as soon as I get an LTE signal, tethering is blocked in the Internet Sharing settings page with a message saying "no cell connection found" or something similar, even though I have both a working LTE connection and cell connection on the phone.
Rogers ROM issue, maybe?
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I was thinking of doing a factory reset until I read this.
Has anyone found a workaround? I tried doing the tricks like resetting the APN or putting in a dummy APN and still, no joy.
Is this a Rogers ROM issue and is there an alternative to get Internet Sharing AND MMS working at the same time (other than the purchase of another phone)? TIA
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I was thinking of doing a factory reset until I read this.
Has anyone found a workaround? I tried doing the tricks like resetting the APN or putting in a dummy APN and still, no joy.
Is this a Rogers ROM issue and is there an alternative to get Internet Sharing AND MMS working at the same time (other than the purchase of another phone)? TIA
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I don't recall having MMS issues, though it's possible I never recieved any. The tethering fix I finally settled on was just switching back to '3G' in the cellular settings, which gets me 4G HSPA+ tethering which was good enough for my purposes. It's almost certainly a restriction of the Rogers ROM.
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I don't recall having MMS issues, though it's possible I never recieved any. The tethering fix I finally settled on was just switching back to '3G' in the cellular settings, which gets me 4G HSPA+ tethering which was good enough for my purposes. It's almost certainly a restriction of the Rogers ROM.
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I tried the 3G tethering with reboot and it still gives me the upsell message.
Are there other ROMs that will work with the Rogers Lumia 920? Or will that brick the phone?
I remember with the Lumia 900 I could use a Mexican Firmware to get MMS and Tethering that worked great but I heard (months ago) of people bricking their Rogers 920s by putting on AT&T ROMs.
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I tried the 3G tethering with reboot and it still gives me the upsell message.
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Do you get an upsell message, or a "cellular data not enabled" message?
For the former, installing and then removing a foreign language keyboard update via the keyboard settings will still work, if you actually do have T-Mobile tethering on your line. You still won't be able to tether on LTE though, because you'll get the "cellular connection not enabled message".
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Are there other ROMs that will work with the Rogers Lumia 920? Or will that brick the phone?
I remember with the Lumia 900 I could use a Mexican Firmware to get MMS and Tethering that worked great but I heard (months ago) of people bricking their Rogers 920s by putting on AT&T ROMs.
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I've heard of people having success with the Euro Dev firmware, if you have an unlocked phone. Though after Nokia's locking-down of Naviform it's going to be harder to find that. And no, don't flash an AT&T ROM, it will screw you up.
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Do you get an upsell message, or a "cellular data not enabled" message?
For the former, installing and then removing a foreign language keyboard update via the keyboard settings will still work, if you actually do have T-Mobile tethering on your line. You still won't be able to tether on LTE though, because you'll get the "cellular connection not enabled message".
I've heard of people having success with the Euro Dev firmware, if you have an unlocked phone. Though after Nokia's locking-down of Naviform it's going to be harder to find that. And no, don't flash an AT&T ROM, it will screw you up.
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Thanks so much for taking the time to respond.
The keyboard trick used to work perfectly but no longer works for me (I tried adding different ones and restarting, no joy).
I do pay for 500MB of tethering on T-Mobile USA and they insist it should work when I call. There is a problem with the phone that reads: "Add Internet sharing? Your current data plan doesn't include Internet sharing. Do you want to open an app from your mobile operator to add it? Internet sharing uses your cellular data and may incur additional charges 'yes' 'no'".
I didn't hear about Nokia locking down Naviform. Lame. Maybe I can find someone who has a copy that can do the firmware update for me.
Euro Dev firmware might be an option if I can find Naviform. Have to re-install Windows on my Mac Laptop via Bootcamp. Think I have to do a bit of work to pull one of the two hard drives and re-install the DVD drive which I pulled out a few weeks ago to have more space. Sadly, I deleted my Windows partition. :silly:
However... I never installed Access Point on my wife's Lumia 920 and her sharing works (though no reliable MMS). I may just swap phones with her since she never uses internet sharing.
one of the OTA updates fixed this
Hello,
I have read and found success making options for wifi calling appear in the stock menu when it was absent before, however the phone is nonetheless unable to make wifi calls after enabling. Tried placing phone in airplane and turning wifi on.... or just choosing the "wifi only" option for making calls in the network menu - Resulting message always states to connect to a wireless network to proceed with the call, even though I have an excellent connection and internet works fine.
I have done an exhaustive search for methods to successfully use T-Mobile's wifi calling feature on my phone.
My initial research revealed that the option should work so long as your phone supports wifi calling as well as your carrier.
The wifi calling option was absent (as well as VoLTE) on the stock ROM, so I had high hopes that a custom ROM which included the feature would allow me to utilize the service with T-Mobile (my current GSM carrier).
After a slew of unsuccessful attempts to make calls using wifi vs the mobile network, I finally called T-Mobile's tech support who was actually quite helpful, but essentially stated that wifi calling through T-Mobile requires the carriers own proprietary software to work... in other words, even though T-Mobile likes to promote the ease with which you can BYOD (bring your own device), it would appear that the wifi calling feature is only possible when buying a phone directly from T-Mobile unless a custom rom is built which is at least partially based upon T-Mobile's own proprietary software with regard to wifi calling.
If ANYONE has had any luck at all placing wifi calls on the T-Mobile network domestically in the U.S. using the global/MEG7 version of Redmi 5 Plus, your assistance would be immensely appreciated. I have found that, although my phone does not support multiple LTE bands used by T-Mobile, I am still able to make LTE calls quite frequently in my region using the single supported band.... however, my home is a "dead zone" so to speak and, even though I am smack dab in the middle of an excellent coverage zone, my service inside the house is poor enough that others' attempts to call are unsuccessful, leaving me unaware of the call unless a message is left.
At this point, I am getting ready to throw in the towel so any advice or success stories would be greatly appreciated - or, on the flipside, a validation that wifi calling is just not possible at this time so I don't have to drive myself crazy with a continued search for which a solution does not yet (or may never) exist.
Many thanks for your help!