[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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In terms of GPS, you are correct, you would have to purchase a third party GPS app for that (since google maps doesn't cache. Well it does, but if you find yourself lost after choosing a route and don't have wifi available then you are forced to turn on data so it can redownload your route, since it only caches your route and nearby streets.) To block incoming phone calls you just set up unconditional call forwarding (**21*18056377243# send) which will forward all of your calls to VoiceMail. The 1805 number can be replaced with your VM provider of choice (ie Google voice.) To undo, just dial ##21# and send. After that just disable data roaming and you are good.
In terms of stopping IM/SMS/MMS, just have care add message blocking (or better yet, go to your tmobile account and add it from there) its a free service that blocks all incoming or outgoing sms/mms/email as sms/IM. Sometimes the reps will just add the sms/mms block so you might want to add it yourself from the site.
Also if you purchased the vibrant on a contract then you can't remove your data.
pyrusman said:
[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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Or if you want to keep the FULL functionality of your phone while traveling internationally you could buy a prepaid SIM for a carrier in the country you're visiting.
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Or if you want to keep the FULL functionality of your phone while traveling internationally you could buy a prepaid SIM for a carrier in the country you're visiting.
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this ^^
If you did not want to get a SIM, you could just take your t-mo sim out. This way you could still use wifi, then use Google voice for texts and VM.
i had been using dell streak for last 4 mnths, but still cldnt find video calling app for dell streak over 3G, i'm concern with 3g video call not data call (like skype or fring).
whilie googling i read somewhere tht android doesnt support this calling facility , but my bro has Samsung Galaxy S which has inbuilt 3G video calling with phone application.
Does anybody knw how can i do 3G video calling through dell streak??
or suggest any remedy over this??
thnx in advance
exactly no comments till now ???
guys we need ur help here !!!!!!!!
Even my previous older phones (Samsung Omnia, Samsung Omnia 2) had this option but it's not possible with the Streak. I've asked the same question a long time ago and nobody replied really, it's just possible if someone ports the (video)call app from the Galaxy S or Galaxy tab or maybe another android phone. android 2.3/gingerbread will support SIP calling but that's a whole different story...
Alternate solutions are QIK, TANGO, FRING but then you still depend on software on both sides and app/service needs to be running on both and need to be in an area that supports data ofcourse...
I use ooVoo. I use it to call to my pc and I've used it tho video call a an evo
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hey, try the new fring or Tango. they both work over 3g
guys, he's talking about carrier supported video calls which isn't available in the US. Fring/tango/oovoo etc use data and go through the apps servers, where as what he's talking about it just counts against your minutes i.e. uses no data.
To the OP, i'd contact your wireless carrier and dell and see what they come up with. I haven't been overseas in a while so never looked it up.
guys, 'm talking abt 3g video calling supported by carrier operator and not abt fring, oovoo which operate on data
In 3G video calling u can do video call to any other person using 3G video call enable phone having 3g video calling facility provided by operator.
You dont need any data interface like gprs, 3g data, hspa or wifi juss need 3g video call enabled in service and a 3g video call enabled phone like samsung galaxy S android, nokia 5800 for symbian.
this video not to specific to any platform, software and can only work on 3g phone to 3g phone
I believe the op is talking about video calls over the cellular network like we were able to do over some older phone or modern home video phone not over the 3G network itself.
It is slightly confusing because he is asking for video over 3G not data when our Data is our 3G and vice versa. They are one in the same. If you do not have a data plan you do not have a 3G plan. You have purely a GSM cellular plan. (or CDMA depending upon your carrier)
I do not think any of the android phone at the moment (other then the Sammy now that you brought it up, but I dont know firsthand) are capable of video calls over the cellular network without using our data. Over wifi yes, but not over the cell network like we used to with the old Nokias and some of the older winmo devices.
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I believe the op is talking about video calls over the cellular network like we were able to do over some older phone or modern home video phone not over the 3G network itself.
It is slightly confusing because he is asking for video over 3G not data when our Data is our 3G and vice versa. They are one in the same. If you do not have a data plan you do not have a 3G plan. You have purely a GSM cellular plan. (or CDMA depending upon your carrier)
I do not think any of the android phone at the moment (other then the Sammy now that you brought it up, but I dont know firsthand) are capable of video calls over the cellular network without using our data. Over wifi yes, but not over the cell network like we used to with the old Nokias and some of the older winmo devices.
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its not any older technology...3g video call is possible on cellular network only after UMTS techology...by using H264 protocol...its not available on 2nd generation GSM network n these video call works w/o data usage operator has pulse based billing for these videocalls....n almost every symbian based smart phone frm N97 to N8 has this facility available...even android base samsung galaxy s has this....as u dont knw abt this thr4 u might confused.
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its not any older technology...3g video call is possible on cellular network only after UMTS techology...by using H264 protocol...its not available on 2nd generation GSM network n these video call works w/o data usage operator has pulse based billing for these videocalls....n almost every symbian based smart phone frm N97 to N8 has this facility available...even android base samsung galaxy s has this....as u dont knw abt this thr4 u might confused.
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i know what his talking about.when u go to make a call it should give two options
voice call
video call
since it has a front facing camera .
in the uk this option was available on many networks but hardly people would use it because it was expensive also u had to be in a place where u have a strong network connection and a phone which supports the feature .
not only samsung, also with GD910 LG phone watch u can videocall
But india right now only my operator bsnl is providing [email protected] paisa/min which us quite cheap as of now
Which I cab use..
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Still no solution to the 3G native calls
Hi All devs,
Could you please help us out here. Can somebody port the phone.apk from Galaxy S to Streak so that we can get the same option of video calling over UMTS.
Any help would be much appreciated.
The video calling feature has been removed by Google from Android OS version 4.0 and above. Why? Ask them. You still have it in Samsung devices because it has been added by Samsung, not because the stock Android OS (made by Google) would support it. For your Dell Streak, apparently,they chose to go with the original ROM made by Google. So..that's why. And about how to enable it...I honestly don't know. Still looking for a solution myself.
Ahh, but by that statement video calling via 3G should be an option in the Streak, since the Streak was on Gingerbread at the time the thread was created. It's not. Meaning either Google never had the capability in the first place or Dell had it removed from the stock ROM.
Regardless, it's not an option on the Streak, and to add it I believe would require some reverse engineering. I don't think it would be quite as simple as decompiling framework-res.apk and making changes to XML files, like what I did to get the network location service active on my cheap-a$$ Coby tablet.
IM not a Dev but a noob and I'll try to upload it and give talk link
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FIGHTER4U said:
i had been using dell streak for last 4 mnths, but still cldnt find video calling app for dell streak over 3G, i'm concern with 3g video call not data call (like skype or fring).
whilie googling i read somewhere tht android doesnt support this calling facility , but my bro has Samsung Galaxy S which has inbuilt 3G video calling with phone application.
Does anybody knw how can i do 3G video calling through dell streak??
or suggest any remedy over this??
thnx in advance
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In sri lanka 3G video calling is provided by some carrier operators. And call charges are same as normal voice calls. My old phone Nokia 3120c had this facility and i used it sometimes. Now im also finding a way to do video calls with my android. I dont know about mobile phone technology, but i think it is not a hardware thing. May be a simple app can do it.
bump, how do I hack and enable a video call option?
using Nexus 4
hi all im having a problem with my S3
When ever i try to video call any one i get an error saying it could not connect and do i want to voice call instead,both phones are video enabled & connected to wifi ive tried different wifi spots, one in my house and one in my bro in laws thats just got a S3,he can video call me fine but when i call him i get the error
could it be a network issue (vodafone) or a phone setting ? ive installed tango video calling app and that works just fine but the stock calling app just doesnt work for me ?
Maybe your signal is weak, eg no 3g.
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would 3G matter when im using wifi?
If I understood you right, you aren't using any app to do video calling, so what you are trying to use is 3G video calling, which uses 3G. You can't use Wifi with that.
ok just tried not using wifi but mobile data,im getting full bars for my reception and i have a H symbol for my mobile data
still wont connect via video calling
is your correspondant also on 3G network?
BOTH of you must be connected to 3G, otherwise it won't work.
yeah both where connected to 3G,i had both phones on my desk and tried to make the call
Im wondering if its a network issue,maybe vodafone blocking it
I am not sure if this applies. but for us, to utilize 3g video calls you need to ask your operator to activate it.
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Thanks, i need to contact them today anyway so i'll ask about that
Have you tried Skype?
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no not tried skype but i have tried a similar app called "tango" that works just fine,last time i tried skype it just had a horrid green screen they said it was a ICS issue,have they updated it now to work ok with ICS ?
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Have you tried Skype?
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Skype is supposed to work trough any net connection, (as in wifi or 3g). But video call over 3g is different from voip services like Skype.
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if the video call is made via your network service then you need 3g, if you are making a video calls with third party apps like gtalk,skype etc then you dont need to rely on 3g and can use wifi instead.
still not tried skype because to be honest i dont like the app , you need to be signed in all the time to receive msgs , in the tango app ive got installed i switched from wifi and made a video call using 3G , it worked perfect
so my 3g is working ok just not the stock samsung app ?
chriskinetic said:
so my 3g is working ok just not the stock samsung app ?
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hi, this is not entirely correct. Tango is a service app. Just like a voip service. So it relies on internet connection only. 3g video however is a service from your gsm provider. It will only use specific 3g service of your gsm and not wifi.
I must stress SPECIFIC SERVICE here. You may have 3g data enabled but may not have 3g video (or vice versa), also it needs both phones to be capable and enabled.
To check it you may try another Sim which you tested to work with 3g video calls, or try your sim on another device to make the call.
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I'll try that , thanks
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I'll try that , thanks
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I'm glad if i could help.
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Folks, please give me a hand!
I have the Note from Rogers Canada, upgraded to CM9 release, my provider is Fido, and I'm struggling with getting VoIP work over 3G.
1. Native ICS client. It's OK on WiFi, and on 3G the call is being established in and out, but no sound either direction. I heard 3G calling was blocked in GB client, and there was even a method tweaking the APK to make it work, but obviously something is very different in ICS - that tweak is not applicable - I can't find proper file in this APK.
2. cSipSimple - does not work at all, makes the phone acting weird. Well, last update was in 2011, maybe not compatible with ICS at all.
3. SipDroid - crashes.
4. Dell Voice - crashes.
My provider is freephoneline.ca, and I'm testing VoIP with it without success. I'm a network engineer with rich VoIP experience, and run at home a sophisticated FreePBX setup accessible from Internet. I've tried to register my Note on my home PBX as an extension, and I see same behavior - phones ring, calls establish, but no sound.
I don't understand where's the trouble exactly. Is it the Note, or CM9, or my provider is allowing SIP but blocking RTP? I see that all three Fido's APNs are doing NAT, because the phone shows the registered IP that is different from what I see in whatismyip. Could it be the problem? Problems with NATting RTP usually result in no inbound voice, but outbound should be OK...
I wonder if there's a packet sniffer for Android so I could check the traces, LOL.
Whoever has some success doing SIP calling over Rogers/Fido 3G, please help me out.
Thanks!
Shameless self-bump.
Guys, I wonder if nobody knows, or nobody cares? I know it's most likely wrong forum to ask, please push me in right direction...
esokolov said:
Folks, please give me a hand!
I have the Note from Rogers Canada, upgraded to CM9 release, my provider is Fido, and I'm struggling with getting VoIP work over 3G.
1. Native ICS client. It's OK on WiFi, and on 3G the call is being established in and out, but no sound either direction. I heard 3G calling was blocked in GB client, and there was even a method tweaking the APK to make it work, but obviously something is very different in ICS - that tweak is not applicable - I can't find proper file in this APK.
2. cSipSimple - does not work at all, makes the phone acting weird. Well, last update was in 2011, maybe not compatible with ICS at all.
3. SipDroid - crashes.
4. Dell Voice - crashes.
My provider is freephoneline.ca, and I'm testing VoIP with it without success. I'm a network engineer with rich VoIP experience, and run at home a sophisticated FreePBX setup accessible from Internet. I've tried to register my Note on my home PBX as an extension, and I see same behavior - phones ring, calls establish, but no sound.
I don't understand where's the trouble exactly. Is it the Note, or CM9, or my provider is allowing SIP but blocking RTP? I see that all three Fido's APNs are doing NAT, because the phone shows the registered IP that is different from what I see in whatismyip. Could it be the problem? Problems with NATting RTP usually result in no inbound voice, but outbound should be OK...
I wonder if there's a packet sniffer for Android so I could check the traces, LOL.
Whoever has some success doing SIP calling over Rogers/Fido 3G, please help
Thanks!
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I had a similar setup on Telus, and everything works alright. And then I tried Rogers 3G, there is only one way audio, I can't hear anything. But the other side can hear me. And also, my phone can't receive incoming either.
It's probably a problem/restriction with Rogers.
thunderzhao said:
I had a similar setup on Telus, and everything works alright. And then I tried Rogers 3G, there is only one way audio, I can't hear anything. But the other side can hear me. And also, my phone can't receive incoming either.
It's probably a problem/restriction with Rogers.
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Confirmed, with latest CSipSimple nightly build (Jeez, they didn't release since 2011!!!) I was able to make calls, now with one way audio (out), outbound but not incoming calls, and if the remote party hangs, the phone does not detect it.
Those symptoms are familiar - NAT can't properly handle UDP inwards. Both SIP and RTP are affected. Enabling STUN did not help either.
Well, I'm going to buy data only SIM from Bell, stay tuned...
esokolov said:
Confirmed, with latest CSipSimple nightly build (Jeez, they didn't release since 2011!!!) I was able to make calls, now with one way audio (out), outbound but not incoming calls, and if the remote party hangs, the phone does not detect it.
Those symptoms are familiar - NAT can't properly handle UDP inwards. Both SIP and RTP are affected. Enabling STUN did not help either.
Well, I'm going to buy data only SIM from Bell, stay tuned...
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bell will definitely work, their 3G network is just not as good as rogers'
Linphone can receive incoming, but one way audio too
thunderzhao said:
bell will definitely work, their 3G network is just not as good as rogers'
Linphone can receive incoming, but one way audio too
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Well, recently I've been at Rock Point (Lake Eerie), and both my personal Note (Fido) and business Blackberry (Rogers) had no signal on 3G and even GSM, while my friend was chattering and browsing on his Bell connected phone... Maybe Bell's 3G coverage is spotty, but so is Rogers. I've seen too many times that Rogers drops to GSM with no apparent reason, and that means no decent data for VoIP.
We'll see. I'm aiming at LTE anyways, and Bell's LTE spot is WAY bigger according to their official coverage maps.
Someone has to be a guinea pig for new technologies. I hate the idea of paying $70 for CityFido + data, while I could pay $25-$35 for Bell's flex plus $0 for FreePhoneLine.
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Well, recently I've been at Rock Point (Lake Eerie), and both my personal Note (Fido) and business Blackberry (Rogers) had no signal on 3G and even GSM, while my friend was chattering and browsing on his Bell connected phone... Maybe Bell's 3G coverage is spotty, but so is Rogers. I've seen too many times that Rogers drops to GSM with no apparent reason, and that means no decent data for VoIP.
We'll see. I'm aiming at LTE anyways, and Bell's LTE spot is WAY bigger according to their official coverage maps.
Someone has to be a guinea pig for new technologies. I hate the idea of paying $70 for CityFido + data, while I could pay $25-$35 for Bell's flex plus $0 for FreePhoneLine.
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finally got it working on rogers 3g with pbxes.org, and then add freephoneline as a truck, csipsimple works fine
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finally got it working on rogers 3g with pbxes.org, and then add freephoneline as a truck, csipsimple works fine
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Hmmm, I wonder how you did it, can't make it work.
Okay, now I'm on Bell 3G (no LTE yet).
1. Registering with FPL directly gives me outbound calls OK, inbound call get voicemail (on 3G), STUN has no effect. WiFi calling is fine.
2. Registering through PBXes and FPL - outbound calls even to VM gives me "488 / Not acceptable here" on 3G, works OK on WiFi. Incoming calls make my cell ring, but when I pick up the call I'm getting same 488 on 3G. What's wrong here?
Will try it on Fido 3G...
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Hmmm, I wonder how you did it, can't make it work.
Okay, now I'm on Bell 3G (no LTE yet).
1. Registering with FPL directly gives me outbound calls OK, inbound call get voicemail (on 3G), STUN has no effect. WiFi calling is fine.
2. Registering through PBXes and FPL - outbound calls even to VM gives me "488 / Not acceptable here" on 3G, works OK on WiFi. Incoming calls make my cell ring, but when I pick up the call I'm getting same 488 on 3G. What's wrong here?
Will try it on Fido 3G...
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488 means incompatible codec, pbxes only accept ilbc,
Are you using csipsimple?
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488 means incompatible codec, pbxes only accept ilbc,
Are you using csipsimple?
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Yes, and it was a CSipSimple glitch.
By default it has SILK + PCMU + PCMA. I've left only PCMU and it stopped working on 3G only (WiFi was OK). Resetting CSipSimple to defaults resolved it. Weird...
BTW I doubt that PBXes only accepts ILBC, there's quite a number of codecs mentioned in their online help.
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finally got it working on rogers 3g with pbxes.org, and then add freephoneline as a truck, csipsimple works fine
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I've managed to recreate this eventually. I don't know what's so special about PBXes, but yes it works fine with both Fido and Bell 3G. Thanks for the clue! Looks like I'm going to eliminate my home FreePBX and switch to PBXes.
However, sound is choppy like hell on both, barely usable. And I'm still struggling to get LTE on Bell's SIM, hope it will improve things.
One more question - phonebook in my Android has all the numbers in international format - +1-xxx-xxx-xxxx, +7-xxx-xxx-xxxx etc. When I dial directly from my address book into CSipSiple->PBXes->FPL, FPL rejects the call saying it's not covered by my plan. I believe I need substitute +1 with 1, +7 with 0117 and so on, but how do I do this? PBXes is based on FreePBX, and its rules use + as a special character for adding prefixes I believe...
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Yes, and it was a CSipSimple glitch.
By default it has SILK + PCMU + PCMA. I've left only PCMU and it stopped working on 3G only (WiFi was OK). Resetting CSipSimple to defaults resolved it. Weird...
BTW I doubt that PBXes only accepts ILBC, there's quite a number of codecs mentioned in their online help.
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you are right, pbxes accept pcmu as well, but i thought it's too heavy for 3g, they allow g729a "PASSTHU" only to paid users.
for the choppiness, sip require packets loss way lower than 1%, i'm still trying to figure out what to do about that
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I've managed to recreate this eventually. I don't know what's so special about PBXes, but yes it works fine with both Fido and Bell 3G. Thanks for the clue! Looks like I'm going to eliminate my home FreePBX and switch to PBXes.
However, sound is choppy like hell on both, barely usable. And I'm still struggling to get LTE on Bell's SIM, hope it will improve things.
One more question - phonebook in my Android has all the numbers in international format - +1-xxx-xxx-xxxx, +7-xxx-xxx-xxxx etc. When I dial directly from my address book into CSipSiple->PBXes->FPL, FPL rejects the call saying it's not covered by my plan. I believe I need substitute +1 with 1, +7 with 0117 and so on, but how do I do this? PBXes is based on FreePBX, and its rules use + as a special character for adding prefixes I believe...
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for the number formats, since i have all numbers stored on google voice, i went there and deleted all "+" and "-"
in csipsimple, there's an option called filter, i think you can reformat there
a few more tweaks for the choppiness, I disabled echo cancelling since sound from ear piece is not likely to reach microphone.
I also have trouble with the new csipsimple, when i use ilbc, it will freeze after about 30 seconds.
if you directly connect to freephoneline.ca, you need to use PCMU in order to receive phone call over 3G, somehow freephoneline disabled g729a on incoming calls.
so much for today's tweaking. good luck, let me know what you find out
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you are right, pbxes accept pcmu as well, but i thought it's too heavy for 3g, they allow g729a "PASSTHU" only to paid users.
for the choppiness, sip require packets loss way lower than 1%, i'm still trying to figure out what to do about that
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SIP as signalling protocol is doing fine. RTP transport for audio is a problem.
I believe nothing can be done over 3G. I'm trying to make it work over LTE - it's supposed to be much better.
However I figured out that unlocked I717R (Rogers) does not connect to Bell's LTE cloud however it should.
I'm going to flash the Bell's radio and try again. I wonder if there's just Bell's baseband for ICS I can download and burn with Odin. I have only found full stock ICS for Bell, and that's a long and messy update path.
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SIP as signalling protocol is doing fine. RTP transport for audio is a problem.
I believe nothing can be done over 3G. I'm trying to make it work over LTE - it's supposed to be much better.
However I figured out that unlocked I717R (Rogers) does not connect to Bell's LTE cloud however it should.
I'm going to flash the Bell's radio and try again. I wonder if there's just Bell's baseband for ICS I can download and burn with Odin. I have only found full stock ICS for Bell, and that's a long and messy update path.
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not very experienced with radio band and stuff, but have you tried getril? heard it's a very easy app to do this
Galaxy Note not supported yet.
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good luck, let me know what you find out
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Ok, another report.
1. After upgrading radio from Rogers to Bell, Bell LTE is pretty solid and stable while I'm in GTA.
2. Generally, VoIP over 3G is crap, both Bell and Fido/Rogers. VoIP over LTE is mostly OK. No surprise.
3. CSipSimple cannot properly handle Bluetooth handover. By some reason, the call always starts on speakerphone, then has to be routed manually either to BT or earpiece.
4. SIP keepalives are draining battery really fast, no matter if it's Wifi, 3G, or LTE.
5. PBXes.org is GROSS... I've stopped and dismissed my home FreePBX.
Fido has just started offering LTE. Tonight will try and upgrade my SIM card. I wonder though if I need to flash my radio back to Rogers to make it work...
General conclusion - VoIP over cell data is not ready yet for general use. However, geeks like me can save a few cents...
A few questions:
1. Is it possible to block voice cellular calls in and out? My Bell SIM card 'for tablets' still allows voice calls, and every time I'm hitting the wrong button I'm making 40 cents pay-per-minute charge. Customer service says it cannot be blocked on their side.
2. Is there any way to route SMS messages to VoIP and vice versa?
3. Is there a number portability between cell networks and VoIP operators (Canada and US, just to see a big picture)?
I believe this discussion is off-topic here. Can someone suggest a proper forum?
if you use csipsimple, you can disable mobile, if you use stock phone app, you can set use internet call only.
fongo supports sms now, i use google voice, with simonics
canadian numbers can port to fongo, US number can port to google voice
esokolov said:
Ok, another report.
1. After upgrading radio from Rogers to Bell, Bell LTE is pretty solid and stable while I'm in GTA.
2. Generally, VoIP over 3G is crap, both Bell and Fido/Rogers. VoIP over LTE is mostly OK. No surprise.
3. CSipSimple cannot properly handle Bluetooth handover. By some reason, the call always starts on speakerphone, then has to be routed manually either to BT or earpiece.
4. SIP keepalives are draining battery really fast, no matter if it's Wifi, 3G, or LTE.
5. PBXes.org is GROSS... I've stopped and dismissed my home FreePBX.
Fido has just started offering LTE. Tonight will try and upgrade my SIM card. I wonder though if I need to flash my radio back to Rogers to make it work...
General conclusion - VoIP over cell data is not ready yet for general use. However, geeks like me can save a few cents...
A few questions:
1. Is it possible to block voice cellular calls in and out? My Bell SIM card 'for tablets' still allows voice calls, and every time I'm hitting the wrong button I'm making 40 cents pay-per-minute charge. Customer service says it cannot be blocked on their side.
2. Is there any way to route SMS messages to VoIP and vice versa?
3. Is there a number portability between cell networks and VoIP operators (Canada and US, just to see a big picture)?
I believe this discussion is off-topic here. Can someone suggest a proper forum?
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thunderzhao said:
if you use csipsimple, you can disable mobile, if you use stock phone app, you can set use internet call only.
fongo supports sms now, i use google voice, with simonics
canadian numbers can port to fongo, US number can port to google voice
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Thanks thunderzhao!
At the moment I decided to stop my VoIP over cellular experiments, this is not productive.
First, Fido has just offered unlimited national calling + 2Gb of data + convenience pack, all for $56, and it's a killer.
Second, new mobile version of Skype, however not SIP based, is soooo much simpler to deal with than SIP solutions. It has a super clear voice Skype-to-Skype (and video too), works seamlessly over firewalls and NAT, and has a decent quality over both HSPA and LTE.
Third, VoLTE is on the horizon (so I believe), and it will completely change the landscape of mobile services, plans, and prices.
Switching to waiting mode.
Fongo crashes on cm but works fine for me on cm10 and most touchwiz ICS ROMs.