I unlocked my bootloader with HTC dev, and have S-ON. Apparently, it is okay to flash roms in this state, having used this method. I don't want to try flashing, as I don't want to risk bricking my phone and I am waiting for either cyanogen mod for my GSM version of the Evo 3d, or a decent, working jellybean ROM. So, do I need to get S-OFF, or am I okay as it is? If I do need S-OFF, what would be the best way to do it?
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Oh yes, and I have superuser, Google Now, CWM recovery and HBOOT 1.53.0007.
U don't need it but it makes things easier. My bootloader is locked but I have s-off. That's the way I prefer it. U really only need one or the other to flash roms.
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If you want to flash new firmware you do. If you want to flash a kernel, depending on your recovery, you need to be s-off or use a computer to boot recovery. If you want a custom splash screen, you need s-off.
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I just installed the 4ext recovery and flashed a few roms. It can accommodate S-on to some degree. And its a lot easier than using the volume butttons to do anything in recovery.
You should give that a shot if you haven't already.
Is there much risk in using the wire method to gain s-off? I don't want to break any part of my phone and that sounds like it might... Im fine with the splash screen, and I don't want to mess with kernels. Would s-on restrict the usage of roms such as cyanogen mod, and is that rom likely to be released for the gsm evo 3d?
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HuckleberryWill said:
Is there much risk in using the wire method to gain s-off? I don't want to break any part of my phone and that sounds like it might... Im fine with the splash screen, and I don't want to mess with kernels. Would s-on restrict the usage of roms such as cyanogen mod, and is that rom likely to be released for the gsm evo 3d?
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A lot of the ics roms that have true 3.x kernels that work better with updated firmware. You would have to s-on to update them. Unless you relock take all the otas the unlock again, but some roms based on the new OTA need the 1.58 hboot and all the aosp roms can't use it so it necessitates going back and forth with hboots. That also requires s-off.
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A lot of the ics roms that have true 3.x kernels that work better with updated firmware. You would have to s-on to update them. Unless you relock take all the otas the unlock again, but some roms based on the new OTA need the 1.58 hboot and all the aosp roms can't use it so it necessitates going back and forth with hboots. That also requires s-off.
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Sorry, I am a bit of a noob, can you explain that a bit better? And am i right in thinking that if I update my phone, I will then have to re-unlock?
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go with s-off it makes life easier for u no problems alot less stress
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go with s-off it makes life easier for u no problems alot less stress
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Ok, thank you
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it honestly doesn't hurt too much to do it, especially if you don't intend to fiddle around/flash ROMs with your phone too much.
Yeh man I was a bit skeptical to do it too, but after doing the research and finding out it was recommended to do S-off I was glad i did, and its fairly easy to do.
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I'm having to come over via insurance and the 3d is what I get. I have a few questions. Is obtaining root on the 3d a difficult process, as doing it on the 4g was simple. Ive noticed that there are 2 different models. CDMA or the other one which one is the one being given out. And overall how has everyones experience been with this phone. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Is obtaining root on the 3d a difficult process, as doing it on the 4g was simple.
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If your hboot is 1.4, you can root with Revolutionary. If it's 1.5, you will have to use the hboot downgrade method, found in the stickies.
Ive noticed that there are 2 different models. CDMA or the other one which one is the one being given out.
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If you're on Sprint, you have the CDMA version.
It isn't hard at all, if you understand adb. You can root with revolutionary on hboot 1.4 or downgrade if you have hboot 1.5. If you dont want to downgrade try the juopunutbear tool for s-off. It work the first try for me.
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It isn't hard at all, if you understand adb. You can root with revolutionary on hboot 1.4 or downgrade if you have hboot 1.5. If you dont want to downgrade try the juopunutbear tool for s-off. It work the first try for me.
You can also go to HTCDEV.COM. They are very good in helping you unlock your bootloader
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Welcome bud, I also got an evo 3d through insurance. Although I think the 4g had a better camera and I miss the looks, the 3d is a lot faster and has a much better screen. I've learned to love it.
Easiest way to do things is follow the htcdev.com unlock process to unlock the bootloader. Install superuser of course, then get 4ext recovery. There is a free version but I would highly recommend getting the paid version as I think it includes the app that lets you control everything from outside recovery. This has a smart flash feature for those who're left with s-on from the HTC unlock and hboot 1.5. It will let you install kernels like you normally would through recovery.
Only problem is, with any sense 3.6 ICS Rom you will have to use chads HTC leak kernel or else you will get boot loops. However 3d and USB mount won't work but you can always mount through recovery.
If you don't want to deal with all that, you can try the wire trick method to get s-off on hboot 1.5 so you can use the stock kernel on sense 3.6. It's stickied here in development. Hope all that helps.
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Welcome bud, I also got an evo 3d through insurance. Although I think the 4g had a better camera and I miss the looks, the 3d is a lot faster and has a much better screen. I've learned to love it.
Easiest way to do things is follow the htcdev.com unlock process to unlock the bootloader. Install superuser of course, then get 4ext recovery. There is a free version but I would highly recommend getting the paid version as I think it includes the app that lets you control everything from outside recovery. This has a smart flash feature for those who're left with s-on from the HTC unlock and hboot 1.5. It will let you install kernels like you normally would through recovery.
Only problem is, with any sense 3.6 ICS Rom you will have to use chads HTC leak kernel or else you will get boot loops. However 3d and USB mount won't work but you can always mount through recovery.
If you don't want to deal with all that, you can try the wire trick method to get s-off on hboot 1.5 so you can use the stock kernel on sense 3.6. It's stickied here in development. Hope all that helps.
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Don't misinform. I'm using stock HTC 3.0.16 kernel. Boots perfectly.
EDIT: Didn't read that last part. The reason people were getting boot loops, I believe, was the outdated adsp.img.
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Don't misinform. I'm using stock HTC 3.0.16 kernel. Boots perfectly.
EDIT: Didn't read that last part. The reason people were getting boot loops, I believe, was the outdated adsp.img.
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Looks like you don't have hboot 1.5 and are s-off...that's why. I was going under the assumption that every 3D is coming with hboot 1.5, and has for a while since I got mine back in november with 1.5.
So did they finally run out of the og evo? They are replacing them with 3d's
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Yea I got my 3D 6 mths ago for replacement for the 4G.
Welcome to 3D land. I've been happy with mine and still love this phone.
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So did they finally run out of the og evo? They are replacing them with 3d's
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I think so.
But what I think is funny is that sprint still sells the og, but not the 3d.
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I think so.
But what I think is funny is that sprint still sells the og, but not the 3d.
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Funny. They must be handing out refurb 3d's
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The thing about the 3d is that its a way better phone than 4G. Except for camera of course. But I think all the 3d's come with S-on and H-boot 1.5. HTCDEV really helped me out. When u root, try WarmTwoPointThree ROM. Even faster loadup time and comes with beats audio
Thanks for the feedback.. Im not going to lie. I love my ole evo but the last time I dropped it Did something to the Battery. I have a 3500 ex battery that if in the phone it will shut off every 10 to 20 mins. that and the charging port is failing. At least I get another HTC.
My Evo 3D is unlocked, s-off, and running hboot 1.4. I know the OTA update for ICS and Sense 3.6 was just released, but I was wondering if there was a version of that update available that would allow me to upgrade without locking my phone or turning s-on? In other words a clean upgrade (preferably something i can flash from my phone) from android version 2.3.4 to 4.X (whatever the OTA update will upgrade me to) and HTC sense from 3.0 to 3.6. I couldn't find anything when I googled it, and the only thing close to what I was looking for here (hopefully I missed it and my answer is somewhere among the threads) required the wire trick, which im not 100% comfortable with.
Are you gsm or cdma?
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Are you gsm or cdma?
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If you unlocked and s-off you can flash almost anything you want, the wire trick is for s-on , you need s-off the flash the new firmware that is required fir ics, go to cdma devel. Section
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You're already S-OFF, which means the wire trick doesn't apply, because the wire trick gives you S-OFF.
If you want the stock, rooted OTA, I would look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808150
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You're already S-OFF, which means the wire trick doesn't apply, because the wire trick gives you S-OFF.
If you want the stock, rooted OTA, I would look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808150
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ok so when I flash this I will still be s-off and unlocked right? That's my main concern; I want to make sure rom toolbox, set cpu, wifi tether and all my other rooted apps I paid for work after I do this.
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ok so when I flash this I will still be s-off and unlocked right? That's my main concern; I want to make sure rom toolbox, set cpu, wifi tether and all my other rooted apps I paid for work after I do this.
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Yep, you'll still be s-off and unlocked. Roms don't take root, I don't even think they can
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ok so when I flash this I will still be s-off and unlocked right? That's my main concern; I want to make sure rom toolbox, set cpu, wifi tether and all my other rooted apps I paid for work after I do this.
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You better back up all your apps before you flash, otherwise good bye data, good bye apps!!!
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Yep, you'll still be s-off and unlocked. Roms don't take root, I don't even think they can
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so far I Flash Stock Firmware and it says i'm relocked, however I still have s-off. I'm about to install the super wipe and see what that does.
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You better back up all your apps before you flash, otherwise good bye data, good bye apps!!!
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first thing i did lol
alpha2zulu said:
so far I Flash Stock Firmware and it says i'm relocked, however I still have s-off. I'm about to install the super wipe and see what that does.
first thing i did lol
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As long as you have s-off you're fine, the relocked thing doesn't matter, that happens to pretty much everyone who flashes the new fw s-off, don't worry about it.
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Hi guys,
Just to make sure, I have searched and googled but can't see the trees through the woods anymore... :screwy:
I like my 3d capabilities, I like sense 3.6 but I just want more control over my EVO and be able to flash some of the great stuff available here to improve my phone.
Do I need s off or unlocked bootloader? I have hboot 1680007 or similar, ics ..
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U need unlock to flash other roms, gain root, etc
S-off is needed for kernels with aroma and non sense (aosp, aokp, miui, etc) roms, at least to flash them that easy as sense roms, because u would have to flash the kernel with adb without s-off...
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Ok, so unlock will do fine for what I want.. with my hboot version, which is the easiest way to go and unlock?
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If its enough for u to flash sense roms unlocking should do fine for you
Htcdev is one possibility to unlock, i dont know if there is another way for ur hboot, never saw that one
You have the official 4.0 update, or?
I think in that case Htcdev is the only way...
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Yes, I have the latest update, either downgrade hboot or htcdev it is, I guess ... Thnx ! :thumbup:
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tclemens said:
Did you read ramjets awesome guide on unlocking and s-off http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889438 if not start there
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Thanks for the reference but the model in his signature is a GSM version so I think he would do better following one of the guides in the stickies of the GSM development forum.
ramjet73
oops my bad sorry gotta bad hangover
This is the guide you need. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
I must ask, are you sure your hboot isn't 1.49 or 1.53? Those are the only two hboot versions I ever heard on gsm.
Anyway follow the unlock method through HTC dev. However the links for control bear on the guide are dead. Just go to unlimited.io website and get the control bear from the shooteru section based on os, hboot, and computer your using.
Hello XDA I'm wondering the best reliable way to gain S-OFF and root access on the software 3.15
Thank you
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lreyes said:
Hello XDA I'm wondering the best reliable way to gain S-OFF and root access on the software 3.15
Thank you
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I don't think you can S-Off yet with the latest. DirtyRacun may support it now I could be wrong. Watch Qbking77's videos on YouTube to unlock and root your device. Good luck and welcome.
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If you are already on 2.09 hboot, I think you have to use the hboot downgrade method to brick your phone and install an earlier hboot which will let you run dirty racun. It is by no means easy, and I don't know if there is still support for that method.
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cruise350 said:
If you are already on 2.09 hboot, I think you have to use the hboot downgrade method to brick your phone and install an earlier hboot which will let you run dirty racun. It is by no means easy, and I don't know if there is still support for that method.
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Downgrading your Hboot doesn't brick your phone. I've been doing this with my OG evo
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lreyes said:
Downgrading your Hboot doesn't brick your phone. I've been doing this with my OG evo
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The only way to downgrade your HBOOT on this device IS to brick your phone (if you're S-ON, that is). I think you misunderstood. This device is much more locked down than the OG. "Forget everything you think you know."
But at this point, the downgrade method isn't supported (yet). I already bricked my Jewel trying it (granted, that was after the downgrade was completed successfully, but still).
The team that put together the downgrading tool is still working vigorously on confirming a method that will work reliably with the new HBOOT. Stay tuned.
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The only way to downgrade your HBOOT on this device IS to brick your phone (if you're S-ON, that is). I think you misunderstood. This device is much more locked down than the OG. "Forget everything you think you know."
But at this point, the downgrade method isn't supported (yet). I already bricked my Jewel trying it (granted, that was after the downgrade was completed successfully, but still).
The team that put together the downgrading tool is still working vigorously on confirming a method that will work reliably with the new HBOOT. Stay tuned.
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^^^ This. The OG EVO and this phone are not the same. What worked on one won't necessarily work on the other. Just wait for an S-off exploit for the new Hboot, otherwise you'll end up with an expensive paperweight, like the Captain did:banghead:
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Ok I will do thanks guys.
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Along the same lines.....
Once you have S-Off can you go ahead and RUU to the latest one.
I'm experiencing a bunch of problems since S-Off and thought this might fix them?
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murphdsurf said:
Along the same lines.....
Once you have S-Off can you go ahead and RUU to the latest one.
I'm experiencing a bunch of problems since S-Off and thought this might fix them?
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What kind of problems? What ROM are you currently on? Have you updated your firmware?
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Never get the chance to S-off , so wondering if devs will ever make a s-on custom Sense Kernel . Chances of any Sense kernel will be good .
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Accidentally posted in wrong section . Move to general if spotted by mods , please ?
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Or q & a because its a question...:what:
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Kernels can be flashed while S-ON if you use Flash Image GUI or by using fastboot commands. As for flashable kernels through recovery, unlikely unless you set twrp to know you're s-ON so they can flash the kernel the proper way.
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Kernels I've checked the Devs said they can't flash if S-On because it rewrites some part of the system and flashing the .img will brick the device .
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S-Off and call it a day if you wanna flash kernels so bad
(no brainer)
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Kernels can be flashed while S-ON if you use Flash Image GUI or by using fastboot commands. As for flashable kernels through recovery, unlikely unless you set twrp to know you're s-ON so they can flash the kernel the proper way.
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Post from ThickLizard Regarding S-On flashing of an S-off kernel :
"The reason I didn't do son booting is on sense many rom devs make ramdisk tweaks. If I were to make the boot.img I would use stock and would eliminate all their tweaks..."
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I don't see where TLs post you quoted says anything about bricking devices. Rather, undoing ramdisk tweaks. And lately I've seen the word 'brick' thrown around far too loosely for things that aren't even nearly a brick.
From my Evo LTE, yup.
The kernel is unflashable because it is s-off only . I don't think it contains a boot.img for s-on , and even if it did , it would eliminate the tweaks . Thick said he might make a s-on kernel , so my question is answered . Thanks though !
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FacePalm takes like 5 minutes to get S-OFF it's in Origanal Development it will save you soooo many headaches down the road
What is the biggest deal in not going s- off ?
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You can use Bulletproof with s-on
ElementalX might work, but a lot of people have trouble installing with s-on
Just get s-off, it's easier.
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What is the biggest deal in not going s- off ?
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Biggest or most inconvenient issue in not being able to flash roms without flashing the kernel separate.
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You can use Bulletproof with s-on
ElementalX might work, but a lot of people have trouble installing with s-on
Just get s-off, it's easier.
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100 % correct, bulletproof is a pretty badass kernel. Does exactly what a custom kernel is supposed to do. Great performance excellent battery, swear by it.
+1 on s-off, just do it save yourself the hassles
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Biggest or most inconvenient issue in not being able to flash roms without flashing the kernel separate.
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^This. Firmware updates are out, too, unless you plan on re-locking, taking an OTA or running a RUU then rooting again. Totally worth being S-off
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