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My contract ends on the 2nd and I've been comitted to getting the Droid X. I wasn't aware the Thunderbolt was coming out this month. I'm on a tight budget...should I roll with the X or wait for the bolt? Also...do u have to get a 4g data plan or could you just get a 3g plan on the bolt? I am not stoked on the limited dev options with the X so I'm worried.
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Get the Thunderbolt. Trust me, it will be worth the 2-3 weeks extra wait time. Better hardware, should be good build quality since it's made mostly of aluminum, and what's not to like about faster speeds? As of now there is no information on the pricing options for 4G smartphones.
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That's the thing I don't want to wait and then get the shaft by having to get a 4G plan. I don't need or want it. I need to sell my Eris as well to be able to afford the bolt.
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I would definitely get the Thunderbolt. I also was looking for a Droid X. My friend got an EVO and I fell in love with the 4.3" screen. Then I started reading about the locked bootloader and very limited dev options for the DX. The Thunderbolt is just going to be an all around better phone, especially if you want custom roms and kernels. I wouldn't imagine the 4G plan adding more than $10 maybe $15 to your bill.
Again, I agree with Omen. If you're looking for a decent phone with many dev capabilities, this phone isn't for you. This phone is better than that; it's top notch. Get a droid incredible instead. It just dropped to $100 with 2 year contract.
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Vzw store in Walmart just said the bolt is coming on the 10th to their store for 189.99 and no additional billing for 4G whether I believe all that or not Idk but ill wait until then for sure to see if that's legit.
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Vzw store in Walmart just said the bolt is coming on the 10th to their store for 189.99 and no additional billing for 4G whether I believe all that or not Idk but ill wait until then for sure to see if that's legit.
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No information has been sent out to third party sellers about 4G data costs. I honestly don't think it's coming out February 10, because that's when the iphone for Verizon is out......
Yeah like I said I'm skeptical. Walmarts staffed by mostly morons so I'm just hoping for a miracle.
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Yeah like I said I'm skeptical. Walmarts staffed by mostly morons so I'm just hoping for a miracle.
Agreed.
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I have the X i love the Phone but it does kinda stink that about getting custom Roms, like FULL ones with the new kernals and everything. From what i have been reading on line the 4g plan is going to be 29.99 just like 3g but you know verizon can change that any time lol The thunderbolt looks amazing is it going to have a impossible boot loader like the Motorola products have?
Talked to a VZW rep yesterday about our company phones and I wanted to also move to a new phone for myself. I asked about the TB and said I didn't want to pay extra because I don't live in an 4g area. I was told that there is no extra charge for 4g.
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snowboarderxd1 said:
I have the X i love the Phone but it does kinda stink that about getting custom Roms, like FULL ones with the new kernals and everything. From what i have been reading on line the 4g plan is going to be 29.99 just like 3g but you know verizon can change that any time lol The thunderbolt looks amazing is it going to have a impossible boot loader like the Motorola products have?
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It is highly unlikely that it will have a locked bootloader. It would be a first for HTC to do so as far as I know.
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Talked to a VZW rep yesterday about our company phones and I wanted to also move to a new phone for myself. I asked about the TB and said I didn't want to pay extra because I don't live in an 4g area. I was told that there is no extra charge for 4g.
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I've heard this several times from many people, lets hope it is true...I cannot afford a bigger bill.
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It is highly unlikely that it will have a locked bootloader. It would be a first for HTC to do so as far as I know.
I've heard this several times from many people, lets hope it is true...I cannot afford a bigger bill.
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A second considering the G2 and all that mess...
I'd go with the Thunderbolt. HTC uses better camera parts than Motorola, doesn't lock their bootloaders, 4G will be nice and shouldn't cost extra. I've had the Droid X since release and it's not been that amazing. I'm suffering (as are many others) severe reboot issues due to Moto's buggy .340 kernel and since we can't change our kernel... we have to continue to deal with this maddening problem.
I'm no longer a Motorola fan. Not to mention that HTC is usually a bit faster than Motorola on getting out updates for new software... and you'll get a front-facing camera with video chat!
I don't count Samsung phones... broken GPS and horrible software updates, plus a lack of Cyanogenmod... LG phones suck, and Motorola phones are too locked down. So, I see HTC as the only real player in the game today for quality, customizable Android phones. Plus, I like their aspect ratio for their 4.3" screens... not the widescreen size Motorola uses, which is too tall and not wide enough for me.
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I'm running the. 340 update and have not had one random reboot since ice update. With liberty applied and a couple of other tweaks its a great phone (DX) but it had very limited dev support because there isn't really **** you can ultimately do with a locked bootloader, it doesn't have near the support of my fascinate, and no where the support of my DInc, but with that said, at the end of the day, I use my Droid x for one reason. Battery life. I suspect the battery life on the thunderbolt wont be as good as the x, but it had great specs a great proccessor and more RAM, IT WILL BE A AWESOME PHONE. IM SO DRUNK I DONT KNOW WHAT IM SAYING! !
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Is this a serious question? haha.
It was ...I'm impatient as hell that why I put it down to these two phones. Patience pays off though in the phone world I've come to realize.
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I might trade my Thunderbolt for a Droidx2 tomorrow.. any thoughts? I had the first X and I loved it. I traded it for an incredible for the roms.
Can anyone confirm or deny the following:
x2's camera > TB
x2's video/gaming > TB
4g is a plus but not a dealbreaker for me.
my opinion: i like motoblur over sense (if i don't modify, which is a reason i am considering trading)
any input would be great. i know it is late, especially on the east coast but i am hoping for some quick responses. thanks
Do it"!
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Up to you man. The TB is definitely more desirable due to custom ROMs. However, this phone is future proof, and based on the recent acquisition, we might be in good shape. P3's preroot is money debloated...
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Up to you man. The TB is definitely more desirable due to custom ROMs. However, this phone is future proof, and based on the recent acquisition, we might be in good shape. P3's preroot is money debloated...
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it is, arguably, a hassle due to the 4g. sometimes you will lose 4g and need to flash a new radio/kernel/rom and no one else will experience the same issue.
has an OTA been released with gingerbread yet?
Yes but it's recommended to use p3s prerooted gingerbread, and other than the 4g the X2 stomps the Thunderbolt
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yep, i am going to do it.
just put my TB back to stock and it runs so much better haha. the downside of that is the fact i hate sense and it is a total battery hog.
is netflix available for the x2 stock? or does the x2 need to be rooted with a modded netflix app?
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yep, i am going to do it.
just put my TB back to stock and it runs so much better haha. the downside of that is the fact i hate sense and it is a total battery hog.
is netflix available for the x2 stock? or does the x2 need to be rooted with a modded netflix app?
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Available
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I would very much recommend using the eclipse rom as well... Very simple process and very much improved over stock
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After playing around with a Thunderbolt and an X2 i defaulted to the X2, and I must say with all the tweaking I've done it is hands down the best phone I've ever had.
Never owning a TB but having owned the X and now an X2 I like the X2 for its speed but the memory is a little lacking every now and then a game will tell me the memory is low and that it may close unexpectedly. I have always liked the Moto quality for reception and other components and having toyed with a few other HTC phones, locked bootloader and all Moto still gets my bet too.
I came from a Thunderbolt. The lack of roms on the x2 makes me sad considering the large dev support for the tbolt. Honestly, the proformance of a non overclocked cm7 bolt was about the same as the x2 in the real world.
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I might trade my Thunderbolt for a Droidx2 tomorrow.. any thoughts? I had the first X and I loved it. I traded it for an incredible for the roms.
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Just curious.... How is it that you are able to "trade" phones at will? Dont you have a service contact with time restrictions?
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Just curious.... How is it that you are able to "trade" phones at will? Dont you have a service contact with time restrictions?
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Don't know about the tbolt, but there were so many missed call issues on the fascinate that Samsung sponsored a swap thru vzw for fascinate owners. We got to choose between the x2, the dinc2 or the charge.
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Just curious.... How is it that you are able to "trade" phones at will? Dont you have a service contact with time restrictions?
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I have switched many phones on my Verizon contract and never charged . Why would they charge you , you are still paying for their service .
If flashing custom roms and 4g is important to you, then go for it. The X2 should be getting more dev support soon..hopefully..
Oh and I'm pretty sure the TB's camera is better than the X2's. Consumer Report rated it as the #2 or #4, I can't remember, best cell phone camera. The X was last, and it has the same camera as the X2.
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I have switched many phones on my Verizon contract and never charged . Why would they charge you , you are still paying for their service .
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The conventional wisdom is that Verizon allows you to "upgrade" (at the upgrade price) only once every 24 months. While you can trade "upgrades" between various phones on your service contract, you must pay the full retail price of the phone to change phones before being eligible to upgrade.
When I got the X2, I asked if I could trade it for a Samsung Galaxy S2, if that were to be released in the next few months. They said that after 14 days I was stuck with the phone until upgrade time. They said they never resell a used phone, even if returned within the original 14 days. They told me they send them back to Verizon who "refurbishes" them and then they may resell them at a discount online.
So I'm still wondering how you are able to work out these trade deals? Anyone else ever hear of this, other than the Samsung sponsored offer?
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The conventional wisdom is that Verizon allows you to "upgrade" (at the upgrade price) only once every 24 months. While you can trade "upgrades" between various phones on your service contract, you must pay the full retail price of the phone to change phones before being eligible to upgrade.
When I got the X2, I asked if I could trade it for a Samsung Galaxy S2, if that were to be released in the next few months. They said that after 14 days I was stuck with the phone until upgrade time. They said they never resell a used phone, even if returned within the original 14 days. They told me they send them back to Verizon who "refurbishes" them and then they may resell them at a discount online.
So I'm still wondering how you are able to work out these trade deals? Anyone else ever hear of this, other than the Samsung sponsored offer?
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Your thinking wayyyyy toooo much ....
lol, lets say you find a phone on craigslist and you want it . First you check esn to ensure it can be activated on another account , then if you like it , then simply get it and swap your phones on your Verizon account .. Understand now ? It really is , just that simple .
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Your thinking wayyyyy toooo much ....
lol, lets say you find a phone on craigslist and you want it . First you check esn to ensure it can be activated on another account , then if you like it , then simply get it and swap your phones on your Verizon account .. Understand now ? It really is , just that simple .
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Oh. Well yeah, you can do that.
Before trading out for a droid x2 you may want to look into all the audio problems people have reported. I personally have experienced very bad audio skipping while using my x2 and no hacks tips tricks super charges or roms have resolved the problem. I keep my fingers crossed for a solution but if I were you and liked listening to Pandora Slacker or any other audio on my phone I would stay away from the x2 for now
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Who watched the ICS launch and is even more angry about having a locked bootloader?
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I watched the event. Now hoping that the X2 is on the list to get the update.
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I am going to say that the X2 wont get it, at least not anytime soon until Moto breaks it down and skins it(so maybe next summer). The fact that there is so much built into the phone to function without buttons means that Moto has to build in and map their functionality. And, since supposedly the Xoom is the first to get it on tablet, you would think it would go to the Razr, then Bionic/Atrix 2/Photon 4g, THEN the lower end devices. Needless to say, I don't think you should get your hopes up.
I watched it though. I was VERY impressed with some of the things I saw! The lock screen portion with the video was really cool! However, I don't think I would want my phone to do that everytime, seems too tedious still. Maybe after the phone has been passive for 20 minutes or something like that.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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I think the "thing" is Google wanting to buy Motorola Mobility
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Read this:
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How creditable is that fella, wolfe? 31 posts w/ 8 thx. If he had a connection like that you'd think his post count would be retarded with threads on unlocks since his buddy "...would come over to my house and unlock my bootloader".
Where can I watch a replay of the event?
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How creditable is that fella, wolfe? 31 posts w/ 8 thx. If he had a connection like that you'd think his post count would be retarded with threads on unlocks since his buddy "...would come over to my house and unlock my bootloader".
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Yeah, take it with a grain of salt for sure. Worth a read at least.
Here is why it had me thinking. Moto always blames Verizon for the BL. HTC and Sammy phones get unlocked all day. So why would Verizon bias Moto? It gets the gears churning boys...
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I don't believe any Moto phone has their bl unlocked, do they? The lock is all Moto. My gut is telling me if it were up to Google they would have all phones
unlocked and completely open.
Either way, thx for sharing! Good to see you lingering around here yet.
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ATRIX, photon (aka MoPho), OG Droid, XOOM, and a couple more I believe.
Unlocked.
Edit: eris = HTC. Garbage phone btw.
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Back on topic, I heard that all phones running 2.3 will get ics...that means us. So I have my hopes up. I also have my hopes that moto will make good on their deadline to unlock their devices.
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My thoughts are, with the patent wars, Google is trying to cover their ass right now. Until the proposed deal is approved, they are wanting to make sure that nothing slips thru the cracks that could be harmful to their cause in the hands of the opposition. Not to mention, they probably have some new devices in testing along with new hardware components that would be in Google's best interest not to have leaked until they are certified by the FCC. I am going to have to give Google the benefit of the doubt, and say until the deal is approved, they are doing what they can to cover their asses.
As far as VZW being to blame for Moto, I think it has to do with the fact that Moto is an American company, and they can be pressured by big Red. Whereas HTC and Samsung typically have a broader market share outside of the US. Especially with Sammy being a monstrosity of a Korean company in all terms. I lived in Korea for 2 years(Army), LG and Sammy run their world over their! LG is even the biggest ISP! They are leaps and bounds beyond what we have in the US over there though. Thanks to the FCC and FTC! My computer monitors are 2 Innopix 24" OLED 1920x1200 and I bought them there almost 4 years ago for $150/ea! I built my entire computer setup there Feb 2008, I still score a 6.8 on Windows experience index. Cost me less than $1,500 for what would have cost $4,000 easily to buy off of Best Buys shelf... Not to mention Apple, ugh.
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Back on topic, I heard that all phones running 2.3 will get ics...that means us. So I have my hopes up. I also have my hopes that moto will make good on their deadline to unlock their devices.
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The simple fact that they locked the Razr before it is even released, lends me to believe your hopes will be crushed. Sorry man, no reason to lock a phone during the same period you stated you would unlock them.
Now, if 4.0 is still a "Google Experience" as other phones update to it, without their blur's and sense's like honeycomb was for tablets, MAYBE.
Didn't I read ICS requires 1G of RAM?
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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According to a spokesman, the lockdown was at the request of the carrier -- VZW, in this case. I am so sick of the shenanigans ...
I sent a tweet to moto asking if they have a list of phones that is going to get the ICS update. Maybe they will respond.
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I read somewhere that ice cream sandwich has hardware acceleration. Yay! Lol
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I understand the locked bootloaders because VZW probably spends thousands of dollars replacing phones for people who don't know what they are doing, just trying to impress friends. But still, we payed for it, its ours, we should be able to break it if we want
And I think we will get ICS, it just might take longer than expected.
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I understand the locked bootloaders because VZW probably spends thousands of dollars replacing phones for people who don't know what they are doing, just trying to impress friends. But still, we payed for it, its ours, we should be able to break it if we want
And I think we will get ICS, it just might take longer than expected.
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Yea If I want to ruin my phone that should be my life choice.
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Motorola said that within 6 weeks after the release of ICS they would announce what phones will get the ICS update.
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I found this article while surfing around today. What do you think?
http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-to-unlock-bootloaders-starting-with-the-photon-q-26240460/
Motorola sponsored bootloader unlock. Would be nice. Wonder if it'll only apply to any new phone only. HTC applied it to almost all previous phones but what incentive does Motorola have to put work into phones that are no longer being sold?
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Motorola sponsored bootloader unlock. Would be nice. Wonder if it'll only apply to any new phone only. HTC applied it to almost all previous phones but what incentive does Motorola have to put work into phones that are no longer being sold?
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oh i could almost bet itll be for newer phones only, but itd be nice if we could use that **** for the x2
My biggest wretched is will this happen with VZW. Look what happened with the SGSIII.
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Work? What work.... Give us the dang encryption key and we will say thanks/bye
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Work? What work.... Give us the dang encryption key and we will say thanks/bye
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It really shouldn't be a huge deal, but they have to create a small bit of software that wipes the device, unlocks the bootloader, and marks that the warranty is void somehow.
And what they have not said that perhaps the phone would have to be bought at full price. You have to wonder how they plan to put the catch in there.
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so i saw this tweet interaction on Motorola's website and followed it to a twitter user who asks about a RAZR user and it doesn't look like it will happen (for any of us). If they do release some downloadable tool maybe there's a hope it can be exploited. Other than that don't hold your breath.
This is only for the new Moto Q (or whatever it's called) and currently, it's only for Sprint customers. No unlocking of older phones, especially on Big Red.
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This is only for the new Moto Q (or whatever it's called) and currently, it's only for Sprint customers. No unlocking of older phones, especially on Big Red.
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we may be able to use the tool in some way though..
but im just excited for possible kexec on the dx2
Yeah way too good to be true and not coming to Dx2 , Verizon already nixed plans for moto unlocks on some devices. Big V wants to suck you dry and they don;t want any "unauthorized " features being added . They want a dime for every Facebook message you send , mark my words, that will be coming soon to a phone near you.
Yeah I call bs... moto never gonna gas about you ke or any one .... especialy "laura" ...lmao .
I had a good laugh at that screen shot especially when the bot gavevher the same bs generic protocol answer second time around.
We are on our own. Just accept it.
Even if they do start allowing unlocking via their version of unlock tool.... yoy think big red gonna allow that?
Just look at htc ...." from now on all our phones will be unlockable ..."
(Crowd cheers)
Few minutes later...
"Except all our new flagship phones on att.. and maybe some on verizon... ok ok maybe so truth is we have unlock tool but you can't use it..."
One day..
One day
Some dev is going to figure out some kind of universal unlock tool...
Until that day ....were just slaves.
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Need some advice; should I buy the Motorola Atrix 4G or Sony Xperia Sola? I plan to use it with Straight Talk AT&T.
I'd go with the xperia if you have no other option. The Atrix has better specs but you'll at least start out with ICS on that and likely get JB later on. Moto has all nut abandoned the Atrix and aside from a small patch coming soon it has little life left before it's ancient history.
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I'd go with the xperia if you have no other option. The Atrix has better specs but you'll at least start out with ICS on that and likely get JB later on. Moto has all nut abandoned the Atrix and aside from a small patch coming soon it has little life left before it's ancient history.
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Interesting, so you have the Atrix but you'd rather have the Sola?
I posted the same thread in the Sola forum and 2 voted for the Atrix while 2 voted for the Sola. I suppose it's a toss-up
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Interesting, so you have the Atrix but you'd rather have the Sola?
I posted the same thread in the Sola forum and 2 voted for the Atrix while 2 voted for the Sola. I suppose it's a toss-up
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No, I'd rather have a phone that can be upgraded. I love the Atrix but for 'financial reasons' it's been ditched by it's manufacturer offering virtually no further support.
Although there is a slight possibility of an agreement whereby we may be able to get source for the upgrades, there won't be any official upgrades. To me there is no excuse for such poor support of a device. Particularly when you consider far more complex computers receiving updates sometimes a decade or more after it's release. I do give at least some respect (even though I shouldn't) for the fact that they dug themselves a hole to support far too many devices at once with a runaway release of newer ones each year which makes it logistically impossible to support them.
Get neither, wait for Motorola X. Should be as cheap as Nexus 4 if rumors are true.
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Get neither, wait for Motorola X. Should be as cheap as Nexus 4 if rumors are true.
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Definitely not the direction I'm going in. Seems a bit too much like rewarding them for failing to deliver on the updates and gives them more incentive to do the same thing all over again knowing that people will still keep buying regardless of how much they fail to deliver.
Matrix is a good phone Motorola threw it away I got HTC Onex on Att bench mark stock 7600 never got close to that with. Atrix
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absolutely SONY，MOTO had lost customer‘s trust.
Xperia Sola.
Sony or Samsung.
Xperia Sola. It have much better support, plus, it will get ported stock JB.
If you seek for a latest update, minimal usage(surfing,text,mainstream games)get the Sola. Overall experience, I'd go for Atrix eventho it got left behind with Gingy..
The Atrix have tons of awesome hardware (fingerprint sensor etc) , nice build quality and better audio. If you're much of a customizing and not afraid of unlocking your phone, go for Atrix
Don't buy an operator branded Sony handset! Unbranded ones are great, and very well supported but going by my experience with a friend's Xperia U, branded handsets are locked down like Fort Knox.
Why not an atrix2?
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Definitely not the direction I'm going in. Seems a bit too much like rewarding them for failing to deliver on the updates and gives them more incentive to do the same thing all over again knowing that people will still keep buying regardless of how much they fail to deliver.
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Motorola isn't the only company that has screwed someone over. Anyways the Motorola X is going to be the first phone released with Key Lime Pie. So technically it's a Nexus without its branding, like the Xoom which got updates all the way til 4.1
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Motorola isn't the only company that has screwed someone over. Anyways the Motorola X is going to be the first phone released with Key Lime Pie. So technically it's a Nexus without its branding, like the Xoom which got updates all the way til 4.1
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They may not be the only company that screwed anyone over, but for a number of people, they are the one that made the device that people are currently stuck with no updates and the only reward for brand loyalty is mixing some shards of glass into the lube on your next purchase. What incentive do I or anyone else have to take another chance on Motorola?
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Motorola isn't the only company that has screwed someone over. Anyways the Motorola X is going to be the first phone released with Key Lime Pie. So technically it's a Nexus without its branding, like the Xoom which got updates all the way til 4.1
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I'm sure the AT&T Motorola X will come especially locked to prevent you accidentally installing a 'software update' if such a thing even exists. and for those who like to dig deeper, a special feature to shoot you in the face if you try to unlock the bootloader.
No thanks, never again. I won't give the company any money on principal, even if the next Nexus is a Motorola, and it's otherwise great.
That's why I'm going with the T-Mobile unsubsidized plans, and if it's as cheap as the Nexus 4 unlocked I'm going to get it.
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That's why I'm going with the T-Mobile unsubsidized plans, and if it's as cheap as the Nexus 4 unlocked I'm going to get it.
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Sad Motorola boycotter is sad to hear that XDA members will not be boycotting crappy companies who need to apologise for their crappy ways and sort this situation out by releasing kernel source at the very least.
They'll do it again, I'm sure. Don't get burned. I mean, they promised to change their ways just before cancelling the Atrix update.
Azurael said:
Sad Motorola boycotter is sad to hear that XDA members will not be boycotting crappy companies who need to apologise for their crappy ways and sort this situation out by releasing kernel source at the very least.
They'll do it again, I'm sure. Don't get burned. I mean, they promised to change their ways just before cancelling the Atrix update.
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Agreed. However, I was just looking at AT&T's current offerings, with the exception of a couple devices, their Android lineup is the most underwhelming thing I've seen since my LG Vu.
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T-Mobile's lineup doesn't look much better.