And for my 1000th post I wish to impart upon you all the knowledge I have just gained this afternoon.
If you upgrade you can keep your unlimited data if you add a home phone line for $20/mo. according the the guy at the Verizon store today.
Went in there to try to get my phone replaced under warranty, which they wouldn't do since it has a cracked screen, threatened to leave VZW and was offered an early upgrade. After I asked if my plan would change he said yes, it would go down to 2gb, but then he told me if I added a home phone line I could have unlimited. I have a home phone with AT&T so I'll just port my number over and I'll be set. (I did buy a Magic Jack that I keep forgetting to hook up but I can sell that and hopefully get a refund for the months of service I paid for.)
EDIT: The phone service is a wireless service. According to jayochs it's called Home Phone Connect.
You mean a land line?
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You mean a land line?
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EDIT: Nope. It's wireless phone for your home, you use a regular phone on a wireless thing.
I will have to do that next time
Last upgrade (when I upgraded to the rezound) my unlimited data carried over, and the lady said that she had never seen that happen before, but I will have to try this if they try to take it away)
I call fibs
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That's some shady **** right there. I have unlimited and had my phone replaced under warranty with no issues. Don't go into the store when doing warranty stuff.
I wonder if Verizon is offering incentives to their store employees to get people off unlimited data. This isn't the first time I've heard of them telling ppl they won't warranty a phone if they don't switch off unlimited
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All you need to do is an alternate upgrade then put the new device back on your line.
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I dont believe it!!! I work for verizon communications (non wireless) and never heard of that. The only thing wireless does for us is fios. Was it a copper landline or fios? Either way if you kept your unlimited data, thats great! Did they give you a contract on the landline?
chaos254 said:
That's some shady **** right there. I have unlimited and had my phone replaced under warranty with no issues. Don't go into the store when doing warranty stuff.
I wonder if Verizon is offering incentives to their store employees to get people off unlimited data. This isn't the first time I've heard of them telling ppl they won't warranty a phone if they don't switch off unlimited
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Sorry, didn't mention my screen is cracked. He said if he did it I'd just get charged for it later so they don't do it anymore.
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I dont believe it!!! I work for verizon communications (non wireless) and never heard of that. The only thing wireless does for us is fios. Was it a copper landline or fios? Either way if you kept your unlimited data, thats great! Did they give you a contract on the landline?
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I'd have to buy a wireless router/receiver(?) for $12 and the phone service is wireless. So technically I guess it isn't a land line... it's home phone service, $20/mo., call waiting, caller ID, nationwide calling...
Still thinking it through and wondering if that's better to pick up a new phone with new contract or buy a used one and keep unlimited without adding the home phone line. Plus I have to decide between the 2 phones he offered me for the same price but I don't want to hijack my own thread.
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Sorry, didn't mention my screen is cracked. He said if he did it I'd just get charged for it later so they don't do it anymore.
I'd have to buy a wireless router/receiver(?) for $12 and the phone service is wireless. So technically I guess it isn't a land line... it's home phone service, $20/mo., call waiting, caller ID, nationwide calling...
Still thinking it through and wondering if that's better to pick up a new phone with new contract or buy a used one and keep unlimited without adding the home phone line. Plus I have to decide between the 2 phones he offered me for the same price but I don't want to hijack my own thread.
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that's called home phone connect. it's a little box that you can bring anywhere and it uses verizons network to make calls, but you can plug normal landline phones into it.
lol my store gives those boxes away for free. you just have to pay that 20 a month, and you get the reciever for nothin
That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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yeah i think so..it's added like another line to your acct, just like a tablet/jetpack etc
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that's called home phone connect. it's a little box that you can bring anywhere and it uses verizons network to make calls, but you can plug normal landline phones into it.
lol my store gives those boxes away for free. you just have to pay that 20 a month, and you get the reciever for nothin
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Well why don't you come open your damn store in Los Angeles then???
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That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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yeah i think so..it's added like another line to your acct, just like a tablet/jetpack etc
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Well there goes my plan of trying to do that cancel thingy like on the hotspot and keep my unlimited. Doesn't sound like it would've worked anyway, seems any change triggers the loss of unlimited from what I've read.
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All you need to do is an alternate upgrade then put the new device back on your line.
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I don't understand. Can you explain what an alternate upgrade is?
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they mean if you have a family plan and another line has the upgrade, you take that, but you upgrade it on that other line...then just do an ESN change to put it to your line, thereby keeping unlimited data, but f'ing up our commissions. lol
i don't do that for customers because then i lose ALL of the commission i would've made. verizon wants you to do alternate upgrades instead of just ESN changes. my store would get charged back all that commission money from verizon at the end of the month because it's not a technical upgrade. if you can find someone who's dumb enough to do it for you, then so be it.....but when you order yourself online, you don't have this problem. only when you goto a store with a physical salesman.
I have read so many threads on unlimited data. Things about being able to keep unlimited on a non family plan, being able to keep it if you pay full retail, this, etc. I am confused. How do I keep it. I certainly don't want this useless box to connect my land phone to lol.
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a store with a physical salesman.
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If my salesman gets physical he's gonna lose a hell of a lot more than his commission.
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If my salesman gets physical he's gonna lose a hell of a lot more than his commission.
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Something tells me you can get very scary .
On a side note, I have one of these, works great. I keep a cordless phone plugged into it and I backfed it into my house wiring for another phone I have.
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I have read so many threads on unlimited data. Things about being able to keep unlimited on a non family plan, being able to keep it if you pay full retail, this, etc. I am confused. How do I keep it. I certainly don't want this useless box to connect my land phone to lol.
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Don't do anything that modifies your contract and they won't take it away from you. Any other way will be depending on some type of promotion or special allowance. Buy a phone without using an upgrade (either by paying full price or buying used) and you'll keep unlimited data. Using an upgrade discount triggers a contract modification and you lose it.
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I use gvoice so clearly I do not want a texting plan. Anybody had luck getting them to remove it? I emailed Amazon customer service. If they wont remove it, I am guessing I can get Verizon to remove it after I receive my first bill.
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I use gvoice so clearly I do not want a texting plan. Anybody had luck getting them to remove it? I emailed Amazon customer service. If they wont remove it, I am guessing I can get Verizon to remove it after I receive my first bill.
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You are getting a $300 phone for a penny, they are making that up with the texting plan. There is no such thing as a free lunch. You might be able to remove it, but Amazon might very well come back and charge you full price. You'll have to carefully read the fine print in the Amazon terms. Which texting plan do they make you get?
Very true. If that ends up being the bottom line, I can definitely live with it. They made each line have 1000 text plan for $10 for each line.
Still, If I can save $20 a month, I'm going to try.
Also going to get another $10 a month off my fios bill now that I'm a Verizon Wireless customer too.
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Huh. When I tried to buy a phone there I did not have to select a texting plan. I could just select data and move on. I didn't buy yet because I wanted a few more days to think about it
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Folks are saying any change to the plan during the first 181 days violate the terms and you will have to pay amazon's ETF (which I think is $250).
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I use gvoice so clearly I do not want a texting plan. Anybody had luck getting them to remove it? I emailed Amazon customer service. If they wont remove it, I am guessing I can get Verizon to remove it after I receive my first bill.
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Why would there be an early termination fee?
If you check out the other thread, I called Amazon Wireless today, and they said there's no ETF for changing your plan (upgrade or downgrade), as long as you keep the line open, with a data plan.
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If you check out the other thread, I called Amazon Wireless today, and they said there's no ETF for changing your plan (upgrade or downgrade), as long as you keep the line open, with a data plan.
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Are you sure about that last part, I have been told By a friend that works at verizon that data isnt tied to the plan. I looked through the terms and conditions on my order, also no mention of data. Only that the line stays active.
I had a friend call amazon today and tell them to point out the part in the terms that states you need to keep data. They couldnt find it.
I just got my rezound today, swapped service with my TB. And am going in tomorrow to take TB off and put a dumb phone on and cancel data.
I wonder how long it will take amazon to chage me if they are going to...?
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Are you sure about that last part, I have been told By a friend that works at verizon that data isnt tied to the plan. I looked through the terms and conditions on my order, also no mention of data. Only that the line stays active.
I had a friend call amazon today and tell them to point out the part in the terms that states you need to keep data. They couldnt find it.
I just got my rezound today, swapped service with my TB. And am going in tomorrow to take TB off and put a dumb phone on and cancel data.
I wonder how long it will take amazon to chage me if they are going to...?
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true, data is not tied to the plan, but verizon has a requirement that any smartphone must have a dataplan. if they find out you do not, they will add it automatically for you.
Thats why im going to put a dumb phone on that plan and let it sit idle @ 9.99
I didn't notice any text messaging requirements, but I was just adding a line. It did have listed under family plans, both the mintues with unlimited texting and the minutes only.
I'm thinking the same thing about switching a dumb phone onto this line in a couple months after root is established.
Right now, I'm going to use my t-bolt has a hotspot on that line until I hit the 4gb limit every month (for my kindle fire). Once the rezound has root, I can just hotspot it.
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Thats why im going to put a dumb phone on that plan and let it sit idle @ 9.99
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You can do this easily and online without talking to anyone.
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You can do this easily and online without talking to anyone.
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on the web site im guessing? What part? Instruct me o wise one.
can anyone verify for sure if you can change the phone on the line that amazon gave you? I'm not sure what business it is of theirs if we change the phone as long as we're on the line? Furthermore, what if we drop the phone and it breaks or lose it...are they going to charge us $250 for that as well?
Its been three months since this post. has anyone got charged by amazon for swaping lines and removing data??
If anyone actually read their amazon agreement it CLEARLY states, that you agree to keep the line of service active for no less than 180 days.
Use a little common sense people. Lets say your phone gets stolen and you don't have insurance. Amazon can't just randomly force/expect you to automatically have a backup phone that supports data/text just to satisfy their terms or they charge you an ETF. Legally speaking something like that would NEVER hold up in court unless they forced you to get deductible free insurance, which to my knowledge doesn't exist. Bottom line, read what you sign. This thread needs to be closed before it leads to needless paranoia.
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Its been three months since this post. has anyone got charged by amazon for swaping lines and removing data??
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I got my Rez for a penny on this deal and have not been charged anything and I moved the Rez over to a new line. I then put a dumb phone on that line and removed data and have not received any correspondence from Amazon whatsoever.
Put it this way...when I asked an Amazon rep about keeping my unlimited data on my line (the only option when purchasing the phone was 4GB/month) he said I need to call Verizon to make sure I kept it. He didn't have access to view my account.
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I got my Rez for a penny on this deal and have not been charged anything and I moved the Rez over to a new line. I then put a dumb phone on that line and removed data and have not received any correspondence from Amazon whatsoever.
Put it this way...when I asked an Amazon rep about keeping my unlimited data on my line (the only option when purchasing the phone was 4GB/month) he said I need to call Verizon to make sure I kept it. He didn't have access to view my account.
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Your just lucky, my first experiences with wirefly ended in chaos because we decided to send back the droidx and keep the incredible, and they stated that we broke the contract. Tried to charge me $200 and I told them to eff themselces. No problems since and they dropped the charge
Hit thanks or ill hit you
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If anyone actually read their amazon agreement it CLEARLY states, that you agree to keep the line of service active for no less than 180 days.
Use a little common sense people. Lets say your phone gets stolen and you don't have insurance. Amazon can't just randomly force/expect you to automatically have a backup phone that supports data/text just to satisfy their terms or they charge you an ETF. Legally speaking something like that would NEVER hold up in court unless they forced you to get deductible free insurance, which to my knowledge doesn't exist. Bottom line, read what you sign. This thread needs to be closed before it leads to needless paranoia.
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You are correct . it states keep the line active no less than 180 days. However doesn't say anything about features, like data plan or the phone itself. It just says line of service. So what these guys are doing is keeping service on by putting a dumb phone on the line and pay$9.99 without data. However, wirefly doesn't mention about keeping data plans and not transferring phones among the family lines
I was in the Droid Bionic forum and came across this ( thanks jesziicuh) . It totally works I did it on my wife's line. If you have tired data, call *611, option 4, say add a feature, talk to a representative and add unlimited 4g hot spot to your tiered data line. They upgrade your data to unlimited to accommodate the unlimited hotspot. Then log into you verizonwireless account. Go to the row where it says plan. Then click on change features. Pick your phone you just upgraded, then scroll down and remove unlimited 4g hotspot. Worked like a charm!!! My wife's data tracker on her phone now says unlimited!!!! Got to love loop holes!
Edit: This might actually take several attempts to accomplish. I have heard some people have tried upwards of 5 times before actually receiving unlimited data.
Edit2: Thanks to nomisunrider we have the actual plan code the verizon rep uses to add 4g unlimited MHS. plan code #76153 — $30 Unlimited 4G Mobile Hotspot. I would still ask for the 4g unlimited MHS first and if they give you trouble tell them you were told the plan code is 76153. Hope this helps and cuts down on the amount of calls some people have to make.
watch verizon catches on to this like they did with the early rezound orders
They probably will, so do it now before its too late.
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They probably will, so do it now before its too late.
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I wish I could do this via the web interface. I am not my account holder so I can't call in.
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They probably will, so do it now before its too late.
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What's tired data?
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What's tired data?
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I think he mean tiered data...
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I think he mean tiered data...
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Well what's tiered data? Srry I'm new to verizon
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Well what's tiered data? Srry I'm new to verizon
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means if you pay different amount of money to get different amount
of data allowance. Coz verizon canceled their unlimited data plans
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Sorry I forgot to proof read my post. Just wanted to put the info out there as fast as possible. TIERED DATA!!!
I'm pretty sure that Verizon will change your wife's plan back to tiered. Gotta love people always finding ways to exploit companies, and proceed to comaplin when the company comes up with a policy to counter. Prime example were the warranty exchanges issued by Verizon. Even if there was a minor blemish say from a manufactering issue there is a higher chance they would get on your case and charge you $300. That's thanks to people sending in phones that work but with physical damage. Ie someones dog chewed through their phone ,or they dropped the phone with the screen cracked. People exploit and then cry when the company cracks down.
If they change it back so be it. My wife was happy before, but if they don't oh well. Why should we both pay the same for data but I have unlimited and she has 4 gigs. Just cause Verizon wanted to be a bunch of D bags and be like AT&T. Your telling me you have never went to a store and bought something that was miss priced and you knew the price was wrong but still fought to get what the lower price was. Dude this is a modding forum. Not bash everyone forum. Everything in this place is about bending the rules and coming up with work arounds set in place by the carrier and maker of the phone. You are no better than anyone else here.
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If they change it back so be it. My wife was happy before, but if they don't oh well. Why should we both pay the same for data but I have unlimited and she has 4 gigs. Just cause Verizon wanted to be a bunch of D bags and be like AT&T. Your telling me you have never went to a store and bought something that was miss priced and you knew the price was wrong but still fought to get what the lower price was. Dude this is a modding forum. Not bash everyone forum. Everything in this place is about bending the rules and coming up with work arounds set in place by the carrier and maker of the phone. You are no better than anyone else here.
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Well said!
Just called gerizon they are updating their system I'm guessing they are patching this. Damn I was only 20 mine to late
I called and they told me that unless I was grandfathered in with unlimited data, I could not get unlimited 4 g hotspot.
Maybe they've already caught on.
On the other forum people said it took 3-4 times sometimes before someone would do it. For me I called once the lady said ok. I don't know if it matters I had unlimited on my line so she was able to do it for my other line(my wifes phone).
Lol just got a hold of someone. I ended up getting unlimited data and Sicily hotspot for a total of 29.99 a month to think I was paying a 100 just for 20 gigs.
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If they change it back so be it. My wife was happy before, but if they don't oh well. Why should we both pay the same for data but I have unlimited and she has 4 gigs. Just cause Verizon wanted to be a bunch of D bags and be like AT&T. Your telling me you have never went to a store and bought something that was miss priced and you knew the price was wrong but still fought to get what the lower price was. Dude this is a modding forum. Not bash everyone forum. Everything in this place is about bending the rules and coming up with work arounds set in place by the carrier and maker of the phone. You are no better than anyone else here.
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LOL never said I was "better" than anyone, don't know where you got that . Just saying carriers/providers crack down more because of crap like this. I rarely go to stores for major purchases so really haven't had to do the whole "rage angry customer to save a few bucks" stance yet. They're a business they want to make money, not a crime. If you don't like their policies/bundles then go to another carrier? Just saying you have your choices .
As a Verizon employee, I can promise you that the unlimited data will NOT stick. They audit accounts for things just like this, if you were not supposed to have it, the feature will be removed.
This has been going on for a few days now. I saw that one.person even talked to a supervisor and they said that yes if you get the hotspot it will give you unlimited data. Of course who knows how long it will last but it is something that is being automatically done not random employees doing it on there own.
Of course it does not.affect me as I am grandfathered in.
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Just called gerizon they are updating their system I'm guessing they are patching this. Damn I was only 20 mine to late
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My rezound is coming Monday-- my buddy ordered it for me since I'm on his fam plan. He did it all online and claimed there was no choice to keep my unlimited plan from my Droid Incredible. He signed me up the for the 4 gb plan.. Any chance of me getting back my unlimited by going into a store and chatting w/ a sales rep once I have the phone in my hands? Or any other workarounds??
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My rezound is coming Monday-- my buddy ordered it for me since I'm on his fam plan. He did it all online and claimed there was no choice to keep my unlimited plan from my Droid Incredible. He signed me up the for the 4 gb plan.. Any chance of me getting back my unlimited by going into a store and chatting w/ a sales rep once I have the phone in my hands? Or any other workarounds??
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Yeah, you should be able to get the plan back in the store. Just go talk to someone to get it done.
Never should have been otherwise
Both verzion telesales and the stores will advise that you are automatically grandfathered. I am not sure how you managed to NOT be grandfathered, but you can call the 800 number too.
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Both verzion telesales and the stores will advise that you are automatically grandfathered. I am not sure how you managed to NOT be grandfathered, but you can call the 800 number too.
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It's the fact that he did it online. I know what he's talking about. There's not an option online for unlimited. You have to select one of the tiered options. If he goes in the store or calls, he'll be able to get back on the plan.
I was told that when you activate the phone you'll get the unlimited back - that's how mine worked
Interesting- thanks for the replies.. Sucks that I don't have access to the main account so I'm really hoping that the activation kicks it back in. Dunno really if I'll have any way to check except for to have my friend login to the account a day or so after activation?
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Interesting- thanks for the replies.. Sucks that I don't have access to the main account so I'm really hoping that the activation kicks it back in. Dunno really if I'll have any way to check except for to have my friend login to the account a day or so after activation?
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Have your friend call your local Verizon store. I wouldn't think you would even need to call the customer service. The Verizon store should be able to do it for you.
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It's the fact that he did it online. I know what he's talking about. There's not an option online for unlimited. You have to select one of the tiered options. If he goes in the store or calls, he'll be able to get back on the plan.
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I upgraded online (same situation - family plan with four lines, two with unlimited data) and I can confirm that you ARE offered to keep your unlimited plan. I was required to change my sms plan. I used Amazon Wireless to upgrade about two weeks ago.
I have also heard that you lose unlimited once you've elected another plan. Evidently you can't go back.
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Online has nothing to do with it.
I bought my Rezound online (gave my Wife my Charge) & I kept my unlimited data with no problem.
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Dang- I don't like the sound of that.. He swore it didn't give him that option when he ordered it.. From these latest replies it sounds like once he clicked 4gb I got "locked in" and/or "un-granfathered".. Guess I'll hope for the best when it gets here and I activate.
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Online has nothing to do with it.
I bought my Rezound online (gave my Wife my Charge) & I kept my unlimited data with no problem.
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I can verify this too. In fact for me they didn't even give me an option of going to the tiered data plan. I just clicked on and thought it was awesome.
Damn.. you guys are killin me. wish i coulda seen what he was seeing on the screen when he was going through the order process. Hoping for the best on monday when I have it in my hands and maybe call cust service to see what they can do for me.. Looking at it in a glass-half-full state if mind, 4gb should be fine as I don't think I ever eclipsed that on my incredible. Then again- I didn't have 4g lte to play with..
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Damn.. you guys are killin me. wish i coulda seen what he was seeing on the screen when he was going through the order process. Hoping for the best on monday when I have it in my hands and maybe call cust service to see what they can do for me.. Looking at it in a glass-half-full state if mind, 4gb should be fine as I don't think I ever eclipsed that on my incredible. Then again- I didn't have 4g to play with..
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Ur good man. I accidentally removed data from on of my lines (with unlimited data) and didn't realize what I did until later that day. I called to get it added back and yeah it took a couple hours to get it pushed through but I got my unlimited back.
You just have to have your buddy call and verify they kept your line unlimited. 4G is the business btw....you're gonna love it!
Thanks, I hope you're right.. The hardest part might be to actually get him to call.
Why do people keep thinking they'll lose unlimited, the talk was about people who cheated the system by calling and adding unlimited mobile hotspot and then going online and turning it off. We who have unlimited will not lose anything.
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The reason I think I'm losing it is cause he flat out told me he signed me up for 4gb cap and that there was no option for unlimited!
You can get it back at the store....but..
You can get it back at the store....but..You kinda have to raise a "stink". I specifically asked a sale person about it. I was told that he could get it back if I lost the "Unlimited" when I bought mine online. The online options tell you that "you are not compatible" If you have a grandfathered plan. When I got mine I just didn't check an option. My grandfathered plan came up at checkout. Good Luck.
I just asked the guy when I upgraded from my incredible to the Rezound if I still had unlimited data and he said yes, that's all I had to do.
Success! Struck out at VZW store they said they couldn't do it- then called cust service when I got home. Nice lady- she needed to call my friend to get account authorization (which was cool cause she didn't *have* to do that part). He approved, she approved and we're good. Thanks for all the stories/tips here in this thread. Don't know that I'll go over 4gb on reg basis but sure is nice not to have to think about it. Now that that's done- its time to have some mod fun.. time to hit the stickies in development...
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Success! Struck out at VZW store they said they couldn't do it- then called cust service when I got home. Nice lady- she needed to call my friend to get account authorization (which was cool cause she didn't *have* to do that part). He approved, she approved and we're good. Thanks for all the stories/tips here in this thread. Don't know that I'll go over 4gb on reg basis but sure is nice not to have to think about it. Now that that's done- its time to have some mod fun.. time to hit the stickies in development...
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Awesome. Glad to hear it worked out for you! Now unlock that bad boy and have some REAL fun.
Looking to switch from my Note 3 to G3 tomorrow before work. Only thing stopping me is I forgot whether or not tethering is still free or if that's only when rooted(which I know we have) and ROM'd.
I have unlimited(will be using parents upgrade cause they don't care about phones and still both have the LG enV 3) of course so it's non issue in terms of paying extra for easily going over the data cap.
And WOW. I was expecting going in and paying 200bucks. Had no idea it was 99 on contract.
Edit - A mod can move this to the questions section, I completely forgot. Sorry!
Benjamin150 said:
Looking to switch from my Note 3 to G3 tomorrow before work. Only thing stopping me is I forgot whether or not tethering is still free or if that's only when rooted(which I know we have) and ROM'd.
I have unlimited(will be using parents upgrade cause they don't care about phones and still both have the LG enV 3) of course so it's non issue in terms of paying extra for easily going over the data cap.
And WOW. I was expecting going in and paying 200bucks. Had no idea it was 99 on contract.
Edit - A mod can move this to the questions section, I completely forgot. Sorry!
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tethering is not free, you will need to be rooted but there is a hack and its easy. just follow this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwAM3V7I64
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tethering is not free, you will need to be rooted but there is a hack and its easy. just follow this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwAM3V7I64
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Okay, awesome. Thanks!
WiFi Tether Router, on play store, is another option. A simpler install (Just run the apk), and you don't have to reset/change settings each time you run it.
Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
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Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
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This is exactly what I did.
I've been looking but there's a bunch of these apps which one do we know is the right one?
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WiFi Tether Router, on play store, is another option. A simpler install (Just run the apk), and you don't have to reset/change settings each time you run it.
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The one I use is actually called WiFi Tether Router. Fabio Grasso is the developer.
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The one I use is actually called WiFi Tether Router. Fabio Grasso is the developer.
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Using it too.
The only thing, I wish it had a widget.
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Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
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Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
mactechnm said:
Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
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Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
burkett375 said:
Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
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I did a transfer of an upgrade online day before G3 was released...I. Still have unlimited.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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This is just not true if you do it manually. I have done it two times in as many months (once being today actually). Each line is considered a contract so Verizon can't remove and add features without your concent.
How are you proposing they take away the unlimited data if the phone is switched? Instantly or manually by you guys? Also, what about the people who sell their phones? Wouldn't that take anyone's unlimited data if it was then activated on the recipients account?
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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What you have explained is confusing at best and misinformation at worst.
Upgrading a line and the moving the phone to a line with unlimited will never modify the target line.
You have just changed equipment. As long as the line is compatible with the device moving to the line there is no issue.
Alternate line upgrades move the upgrade to another line.
The contract gets extended on the original line but you don't lose the unlimited data.
Move the phone back to the original line and there is no issue.
Unlimited data is a feature and they cannot change features without consent from the line holder.
Also you you can swap the SIM card at will for an unlimited line with no effect.
Bringing equipment to an unlimited line (as long as the equipment is valid) does nothing.
It's treated like customer owned equipment.
If what you are saying is true, then buying a subsidized phone from another individual will cause changes on your plan.
It does not.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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Go on slickdeals and search Verizon unlimited there you will find a godly amount of people keeping unlimited including myself on all 3 of my lines doing it the bestbuy glitch way so you are definitely spreading false information. ..........
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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aj522 said:
I did a transfer of an upgrade online day before G3 was released...I. Still have unlimited.
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jal3223 said:
This is just not true if you do it manually. I have done it two times in as many months (once being today actually). Each line is considered a contract so Verizon can't remove and add features without your concent.
How are you proposing they take away the unlimited data if the phone is switched? Instantly or manually by you guys? Also, what about the people who sell their phones? Wouldn't that take anyone's unlimited data if it was then activated on the recipients account?
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What you have explained is confusing at best and misinformation at worst.
Upgrading a line and the moving the phone to a line with unlimited will never modify the target line.
You have just changed equipment. As long as the line is compatible with the device moving to the line there is no issue.
Alternate line upgrades move the upgrade to another line.
The contract gets extended on the original line but you don't lose the unlimited data.
Move the phone back to the original line and there is no issue.
Unlimited data is a feature and they cannot change features without consent from the line holder.
Also you you can swap the SIM card at will for an unlimited line with no effect.
Bringing equipment to an unlimited line (as long as the equipment is valid) does nothing.
It's treated like customer owned equipment.
If what you are saying is true, then buying a subsidized phone from another individual will cause changes on your plan.
It does not.
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Go on slickdeals and search Verizon unlimited there you will find a godly amount of people keeping unlimited including myself on all 3 of my lines doing it the bestbuy glitch way so you are definitely spreading false information. ..........
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The guy is obviously a troll and it is pretty obvious he works at Verizon...he's full of misinformation to try to scare people off unlimited. Sorry to go offopic...
Actually guys what he is saying might have a little bit of truth to it. I bought my G3 on launch day at my local corporate store. I'm a unlimited user and had a line with a upgrade so was going to upgrade it then have them switch the phones and put my basic phone back on. They didn't want to do it, since I'm good friends with a few of them they went ahead but told me the exact same thing this guy is telling us. They said they are not allowed to do that anymore. I stated to them what makes the difference after I leave to switch SIM cards out and call them and have them put basic service on the other line. What makes the difference if I break this phone and need to swap it out for one of my others. They said outside the store u can do what u want, they just ain't suppose to anymore in the store so hopefully this clears up a little of what this guy is saying.
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Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
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LOL Wut? See attachment for my Chat from the week the G3 was released.
I did it and still am showing unlimited data.
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Using it too.
The only thing, I wish it had a widget.
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There is a widget. I placed it on my home screen and 1 press of the icon and it automatically turns on. I don't have to go into the app to turn it on or off.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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I have 4 lines. 2 are my primary and 2 are dummy lines. My 2 primary are on month to month. My 2 dummy lines are eligible for upgrade. I used those lines to get the LG G3. Activated it on my dummy lines. Deactivated them and put it on my primary. Put back my dummy phones and I still have unlimited which is still month to month. Dummy lines are eligible for upgrade in 2016
Yes some are bone heads but some aren't. Here's my recent experience.
I have 4 phones on my account with a 10 gig shared data plan. My daughter wanted to move from Sprint to Verizon so my wife and I went to a Verizon store to help her through the transaction. One of the first things I do when I talk to one of the CS reps is state my position and what I want from this conversation with him/her. I like to see what they know or don't know. My rep, John, saw that I wasn't an average clueless customer and he immediately shifted into a smarter mode. Kudos for that.
So, my daughter decides on a Moto X. He runs the numbers and quickly figures out that it's much cheaper for her to join our family plan. No problem, we'll do that. She now pays us monthly for 1/5 of the total bill.
Then he pulls this one: "I'd like for you to look at the Edge plan for that Moto X." Ok, I'm not dumb, I've read all about the Edge plan. Yes it's no contract and yes you can switch to a new phone after a year but you pay for the phone as you go. I've looked at the numbers and it never makes sense to get Edge unless you just can't wait to upgrade phones. But boy do you pay for it.
Right now my opinion of John is changing. He's trying to pull a fast one. So I object saying, "I'm not interested in Edge." He comes back with, "What if I can prove it saves you money?" "OK, wise guy," I'm thinking, "do you take me for an idiot? Show me how smart you are, bonehead." Instead, I say, "Really? How?"
And he shows me. The way the Edge program works is that the monthly cost of the phone on an Edge plan is retail cost divided into 20 months. In the case of the Moto X it's $400 retail or $20 per month. Turns out if you have a 10 gig, or higher, data plan they discount the Edge program by $25 for EACH phone on the Edge plan. So, in her case the $20 plan minus the $25 discount reduced the plan by $5 compared to a 2 year subsidized contract. "So," I thought, "this guy really knew what he was doing."
Other advantages to Edge: The phone can be upgraded after 60% of the retail price is paid off. That's 12 months. If you want to trade it in sooner than 12 months then pay the difference to get up to 60%. This is a trade-in, you don't keep the phone. However, if you do keep the phone for 20 months it's yours to keep, no trade in necessary.
The break even point is phone that retails for $500. At that point the monthly payment is $25 and the discount is $25.
An HTC One and LG G2 are break even on Edge. A Note 3, S5 and LG G3 are only $5 more on Edge. All in all, it turns out, Edge is a pretty good deal if you have the 10 Gig plan.
In the end, my daughter was happy, I'm happy and it was a great experience. So, not all CS reps are idiots.
Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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You can say that again
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You can say that again
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Yeah. Because of how much data I use, they told me they would give me all the deals of a more everything plan plus 20% off my whole bill. Then I said I already have 20% off through a worker who worked there years ago. They said it would add on top of that. So 40% off plus what ever more eveything. But given how much data I use, wouldn't do anything for me.
You lost me at "some aren't"
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
TabGuy said:
For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
droidstyle said:
As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
TabGuy said:
First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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Yes I am well aware...see my posts in that thread.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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No you are not under a contract when month to month. There are no binding terms keeping me locked to any set rules or conditions. However, there is the TOS I agreed to back when I first joined. Aside from that I have been a VZW customer for 15yrs and they have never ended or terminated any service I have had with them. They may discontinue a older plan, but they have never forced me off of any plan I was on. I have no reason to believe they would start doing such things. Just because they did away with the loop hole(add a line/transfer device/put dumb phone on added line) to keep unlimited does not mean they are going to start forcing people off thier unlimited plans. Even if they did, I would simply jump on a shared plan...it is what it is.
Boy did I luck out. Just read this about august 24th. I got a note 3 yesterday! Still unlimited.... and my upgrade I'd in November, seems like people better get their phones now! So what if you buy a used phone and swap sims?? Post Aug 24th...
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Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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Exactly... +1
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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the problem with putting any stock in what your account manager says is the simple fact that one could speak to 10 different account managers and get 10 different answers.
Amen to that, verizon employees must not have group trainings as they All seem to have a different answer for you.
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Most people do not realize the 25 dollar credit per edge line per month on the bill.
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