People who use MHL to HDMI out- Does the note's screen fit your computer/tv screen perfectly? Mine has black bars on the sides and doesn't quite fit right on top and bottom.
Although- when it's playing any kind of video it seems to fit absolutely perfect? There must be a way to fix this.
Also, anybody figure out a good way to dim the screen nearly black while the tv/computer screen stays normal? All the apps i've tried also dim the computer screen.
Otherwise with my bluetooth keyboard and mouse i have no use for my laptop whatsoever anymore but it would be nice to get these minor gripes out. Thx XDA!
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The Note screen is not a standard resolution. Apps, games, and videos may all appear as different resolutions on your TV screen. Not much you can do here but change the settings on your TV.
I have looked extensively for some way to dim the Note's screen when using HDMI and have come up empty.
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The Note screen is not a standard resolution. Apps, games, and videos may all appear as different resolutions on your TV screen. Not much you can do here but change the settings on your TV.
I have looked extensively for some way to dim the Note's screen when using HDMI and have come up empty.
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Thanks!
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The Note screen is not a standard resolution.
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Not to nitpick, but 1280x800 is completely standard, and quite possibly the most common notebook resolution on the planet.
The deal comes from trying to output to a 4:3 or 16:9 display while outputting 16:10 resolution. The fix, obviously, is to use a 16:10 display, but thats not really cost effective. Hence, black bars.
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Not to nitpick, but 1280x800 is completely standard, and quite possibly the most common notebook resolution on the planet.
The deal comes from trying to output to a 4:3 or 16:9 display while outputting 16:10 resolution. The fix, obviously, is to use a 16:10 display, but thats not really cost effective. Hence, black bars.
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1280x800 is not a standard resolution for any of my monitors, my laptop, my rear projection tv, nor my LED TV.
But it is a standard resolution.
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But it is a standard resolution.
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It certainly is a standard resolution. My 1080p monitor can use that resolution just fine although it's not native.
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Yes its a normal resolution, but the issue at hand is that is not a normal aspect ratio for a hdtv, hence the black bars.
That said, I haven't found solutions either...
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Might be a nooby question :/ but is there a way for our gs2 to display in hd?
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I'm no expert but I'm sure it's always displaying in HD. I'm not sure what you're getting at.
sorry 1080p??
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no ........
You mean the screen? Well if that was the case everyone would by a cheap 720p TV and display it in 1080p The display can only display what it's designed to. 1080 requires more physical pixels, not just a software tweak.
1080p on a screen that small however would be waste as you couldn't see anything at default text size. Sure you could make text larger therefore defeating the whole purpose of the higher resolution. Also playing videos at 1080/720/576p wont show much difference on screens that small. The difference is only apparent on larger screens.
You can display 1080p by plugging it to a LCD/LED/PLASMA TV via HDMI.
If you are talking about the phone's screen, NOPE, no way.
If you are talking about the DPI, you can increase it, to increase desktop space.
k, thanks for the info
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I just bought an HDMI output cable for my X2 and I am unimpressed with the results. The resolution looks grainy and all the videos look bad. Am I missing something?
I have a 2011 LG Plasma 50" 720P TV.
Well, it starts with your TV not being the greatest resolution, and being a large size. What are you trying to watch? If you are streaming Netflix and things like that, they have been having issues with it streaming in HD. Are you running any ROMs? It also depends on the quality of the HDMI cable you are using. It does make a difference.
I have grainy issues when running some eclipse versions. When stock or on a certain eclipse version I get better video quality o er HDMI...also seems like if I lower the overscan quality seems better but that could just be in my head
I think the X2 HDMI Mirroring just upscales the phone's display without any sort of smoothing. So you get an effective resolution of 960x540 outputting at 1920x1080 with each pixel showing up 4x as big.
If any application actually supports video-out (maybe just the BLUR gallery), then it may output at a real higher resolution. But due to no standard on this sort of thing in Android, no application really supports video out and Motorola really did a crappy job with their mirroring service.
Does RealHDMI or Xternal Display do a better job of this?
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Does RealHDMI or Xternal Display do a better job of this?
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those are both for the original droid X, and would disable the internal display and output over hdmi. X2's built in mirroring is better than that.
It is supposed to output at full 720p.
Actually it's supposed to be full 1080p output. Mine works pretty well.
Tapatalkin' from my eclipsed DROIDX2
This is one of my pet pevs as well. The picture quality on the phone is always better than the picture quality on the tv. It doesn't matter if I am hooked up to a 720 tv or a 1080. Same poor quality. Not hd like the phone
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This is one of my pet pevs as well. The picture quality on the phone is always better than the picture quality on the tv. It doesn't matter if I am hooked up to a 720 tv or a 1080. Same poor quality. Not hd like the phone
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+1 it says its supposed to output to 1080 but with all the pixelation it looks like it just upscales to fit the tv.
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Our native res of 960x540 is actually an hd standard and should look pretty decent when scaled to 1080 as it is exactly half.
Mine also looks lo-res. I'm mirroring to a 21.5" monitor (1080p) and the image looks pixelated. Not using the best cable, but it shouldn't look like it just stretches to fit the screen.
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Had anyone else tried.lowering the overscan in phone settings>hdmi
I mentioned it earlier but can't tell if its just my.mind playing tricks on me.
also I've noticed it seems to look better if I put the tv screen setting to normal instead of widescreen or fit to screen.
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Our native res of 960x540 is actually an hd standard and should look pretty decent when scaled to 1080 as it is exactly half.
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Our phones resolution is half in each side so it is a quarter, hence "qHD".
The video signal the phone is sending is 1080p, but the phone is just scaling the internal display.
This is compared to the ipad2 (and maybe iPhone 4s) quick just mirrors the screen resolution without scaling in a 1080p signal giving big black borders. But apps can output true HD over the same connection, if they're programmed to.
anyone find out if there is a way to adjust the scaling form this device? did anyone make a rom that can do anything fo this problem?
when i video out to my TV via HDMI cable, its often not full screen of has 2 black massive lines.
is there any app or anything i can do to "stretch" the picture or "upscale" it bigger?
or are the black lines/bars something i have to put up with?
Sounds like a TV issue. MHL output isn't configurable at all on the phone, so check settings on the TV.
I think that's due to resolution....
Change resolution in tv setting and choose the suitable one... Like 16:9 4:3 2:35
Or something like that
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That's not resolution, it's aspect ratio.
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when i video out to my TV via HDMI cable, its often not full screen of has 2 black massive lines.
is there any app or anything i can do to "stretch" the picture or "upscale" it bigger?
or are the black lines/bars something i have to put up with?
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It all depends on the aspect ratio of your videos. Try playing 4:3 and see if you still get the black stripes on top and bottom and if the picture is stretched. If yes then it sounds like you need to adjust the aspect ratio settings on your TV.
Black lines are normal for some/most? of movies even on widescreen TVs, but when you say "massive" I'm not sure how much space they are taking up, so a picture could help.
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That's not resolution, it's aspect ratio.
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Sorry my bad...
Meant that only
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They're right, this massive black lines ocurres because of the resolution of the phone against the resolution of the TV, and it's not configurable. A test for you to understand what we are saying is to film something(record on video) using the camera on S2, anything at all,and displaying it on the TV. You will see that this massive lines doesn't exist anymore.
I just sold my transformer prime infinity...and coming from that, im disappointed with the screen. How could a lower resolution screen on the prime look sharper than the one on the nexus?
Well I was just looking around here and I don't have a Nexus 10. I got a Galaxy Note 10.1 and from my experience the picture matters a lot.
I mean there are a lot of wallpaper sites with ultra HD and optimized wallpapers for retina display, but the same resolution is not always the same sharpness. some are crappy cropped or zoomed.
Use quickpic to set your background picture. The stock gallery app sometimes crops the pictures false.
And pictures with a resolution below the maximum resolution will always look a bit crappy. that means that when you are using a fullHD picture, which was nice for transformer prime, it can look less sharp on a display with higher resolution like nexus 10
I too come from Prime and there is no contest, this screen is sharper than Prime by miles.
How stuff looks will depend on what you are seeing.
If you have set regular wallpaper, it will look all blurry thanks to resolution. Even so called HD wallpapers will look blurry on this. You need to go search for wallpapers for MacBook Pro retina and use those on this tablet using quickpic. None of the apps from Android market have good wallpapers that are having native resolution of this tablet.
Text is sharp and crisp on this.
Most arcade games are not optimised for this screen and look terrible or blurry. That is not screen's fault.
Desktop web pages look nice full and crisp. So only real issue of lack of sharpness comes into picture when the content is not ready for screen. That includes apps, images and games.
I also come from Prime.
I wouldn't say the Prime screen looks sharper than the Nexus 10. Reading text on the N10, for example, the resolution is really amazing, very nice on the Nexus 10.
The colors and brightness and blacks is a different story. The Prime had those 3 much nicer than the Nexus 10. I loved playing Marble Blast on the Prime, the graphics looked amazingly vivid. On the Nexus 10 they appear as meh.
Its the prime infinity. Drastic difference. What a shame. Gonna put the nex up 4sale.
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I just sold my transformer prime...and coming from that, im disappointed with the screen. How could a lower resolution screen on the prime look sharper than the one on the nexus?
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It's mainly because a lot of apps and mobile sites and such aren't made for the resolution. It's made for a smaller resolution, so to make up for that, the apps, mobile sites, and whatever else are all upscaled to fit the 2560x1600 resolution. While upscaling allows you to view things bigger, it will also make everything else a slightly blurry. There are upscaling algorithms to make it look better, but basically it's impossible to make upscaled images look as good as a native 2560x1600 image.
A 720p 10" screen (Note 10.1) will show a 720p video the cleanest because the video outputs a ratio of exactly 1:1 pixels.
A 1080p 10" screen (TF prime) will show a 720p video a bit blurrier because the video outputs a ratio of 2.25:1 pixels.
A 1440p 10" screen (N10) will show a 720p video the blurriest because the video outputs a ratio of 4:1 pixels. (I know the N10 has a 1600p screen, it's just to make calculations slightly easier)
Now when using a 1080p video, a 720p screen will show no improvement because the screen can't output those extra pixels.
When using a 1080p screen, the screen will look sharper than that 720p screen because you have more information. Consider watching TV of a 10x10 resolution vs 1920x1080 resolution. The 1920x1080p resolution will look far better
Once again, the 1440p will look slightly blurry.
Now when you use a 1440p video, you can probably guess which screen will output that video the cleanest.
So basically, this high resolution thing is good mainly for texts as of right now since nothing is really optimized for a screen beyond 1080p.
Anyone who thinks its possible for a much lower resolution screen to be sharper is a fool. This screen is absolutely dazzling. Though content displayed is obviously going to have an affect.
And just to shove some numbers in your face:
N10 - 300.24 PPI (2560x1600 @ 10.055") 4,096,000 pixels (78% MORE)
Prime Infinity - 226.42 PPI (1920x1200 @ 10") 2,304,000 pixels
That's a huge difference.
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It's mainly because a lot of apps and mobile sites and such aren't made for the resolution. It's made for a smaller resolution, so to make up for that, the apps, mobile sites, and whatever else are all upscaled to fit the 2560x1600 resolution. While upscaling allows you to view things bigger, it will also make everything else a slightly blurry. There are upscaling algorithms to make it look better, but basically it's impossible to make upscaled images look as good as a native 2560x1600 image.
A 720p 10" screen (Note 10.1) will show a 720p video the cleanest because the video outputs a ratio of exactly 1:1 pixels.
A 1080p 10" screen (TF prime) will show a 720p video a bit blurrier because the video outputs a ratio of 2.25:1 pixels.
A 1440p 10" screen (N10) will show a 720p video the blurriest because the video outputs a ratio of 4:1 pixels. (I know the N10 has a 1600p screen, it's just to make calculations slightly easier)
Now when using a 1080p video, a 720p screen will show no improvement because the screen can't output those extra pixels.
When using a 1080p screen, the screen will look sharper than that 720p screen because you have more information. Consider watching TV of a 10x10 resolution vs 1920x1080 resolution. The 1920x1080p resolution will look far better
Once again, the 1440p will look slightly blurry.
Now when you use a 1440p video, you can probably guess which screen will output that video the cleanest.
So basically, this high resolution thing is good mainly for texts as of right now since nothing is really optimized for a screen beyond 1080p.
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I actually have to disagree with you a little bit here. 720p video should look just as good on the Nexus 10 as it does on the Note 10.1. 1280x800 times 2 is 2560x1600. Because of that each pixel of a 720p video will take up exactly 4 pixels on the Nexus 10; however those 4 pixels on the N10 are the same area that would be a single pixel on the Note 10.1. This is a clean ratio. On the TF700 you got to 1920x1200 which is 1.5 times 1280x800. This is not a whole ratio and means that pixels of a 720p video will take up between 1 and 4 pixels on the TF700 display (determined by a fancy algorithm for scaling images).
The Nexus 10 playing 1080p video should have about the same blurriness as the TF700 playing 720p video.
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Anyone who thinks its possible for a much lower resolution screen to be sharper is a fool. This screen is absolutely dazzling. Though content displayed is obviously going to have an affect.
And just to shove some numbers in your face:
N10 - 300.24 PPI (2560x1600 @ 10.055") 4,096,000 pixels (78% MORE)
Prime Infinity - 226.42 PPI (1920x1200 @ 10") 2,304,000 pixels
That's a huge difference.
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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Lol as a former owner of both (returned Prime C1 for 700 a C6 then returned that, and I started the thread in Prime forums for users who Asus lost our first mailed GPS dongles)- your fooling yourself or you got a N10 with a bad screen
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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You can most likely blame that on googles new font rendering in 4.2. They turned down the font hinting a lot. It would be nice if it was configureable like in Linux. It the same way on the galaxy nexus and nexus 7 in 4.2.
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The problem with this screen is calibration and black levels.
Colors are extremely washed, red is a poor red, same with blue. This totally kills the screen. If you compare this with ipad screen, you will cry. Not because of viewing angles, not because of brightness, because of colours. Google was really smart when they decided not to calibrate their screens, same with nexus 4, while other OEMs take care of this thing deeply.
And black, despite numbers of the reviews, its quite poor, mostly because every single unit has light bleed (some with a hard mess, others this problem is smaller)
As a result, a top screen with such a poor implementation. This could be best screen in an tablet ever, and now it is a mediocre one, with many pixels, but nothing else. And it's a ****ing software issue, thats so sad.
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And it's a ****ing software issue, thats so sad.
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light bleed is not a software issue
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light bleed is not a software issue
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Yep, meant the calibration thing, it's about software. Black thing is because a bad manufacturing process, probably because of low price tag., or crappy manufacturers.
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You can most likely blame that on googles new font rendering in 4.2. They turned down the font hinting a lot. It would be nice if it was configureable like in Linux. It the same way on the galaxy nexus and nexus 7 in 4.2.
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Wow...that blows. Maybe we need a 4.1 ROM??
I saw light bleed as soon as I turned my N10, but that's not the reason I just called to return it -- it was the uneven brightness. The top 1/2 inch of the screen is noticeably darker than the rest of it -- not visible when watching a movie or playing games, but very distracting when surfing and reading books, especially in portrait mode.
Since I haven't seen anyone else complain about this issue, I'm hopeful the replacement will be better.
Yep, I completely agree with one of the previous posters, this is definetly a black level issue. I put the iPad with a Retina Display right against a Nexus 10 both playing the same 1080i MKV. The iPad clearly won.
I still like the Nexus 10 a lot and I find it very comfortable to use because of how thin it is and how light it is, but to improve the product I think Google missed it some here. They could lowered the resolution considerably (1920 x 1080 is more than fine), improved on black level, and used the same processor. The lower resolution would have allowed that processor to scream since it wouldn't have been as taxed to interpolate so many pixels.
I don't know if it is a software issue or not, but if it is I really hope Google releases a fix. If there was a way to adjust Gamma or Contrast it might help considerably.
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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There's no way on earth text (or other computer generated content like the UI and icons) will look better on a 147PPI display (Prime) vs. 224PPI (TF700) or 300PPI (N10). The reason is as 404 Error did a great job of explaining is that text is a 1:1 match pixel wise; the more pixels the sharper the image. Photos and videos display even the clearest content over multiple pixels so the advantage of a higher PPI becomes less pronounced. And the human eye (even yours) can't resolve sharpness over 229PPI beyond 15". So, your 20/20 eyes are decieving you. The N10 has less contrast and isn't as bright as older displays so that might be what you're reacting to.
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This could be best screen in an tablet ever, and now it is a mediocre one,
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well lets hope this guy will change that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ9H-TtObBY
tacitust said:
I saw light bleed as soon as I turned my N10, but that's not the reason I just called to return it -- it was the uneven brightness. The top 1/2 inch of the screen is noticeably darker than the rest of it -- not visible when watching a movie or playing games, but very distracting when surfing and reading books, especially in portrait mode.
Since I haven't seen anyone else complain about this issue, I'm hopeful the replacement will be better.
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Mine has this problem and so do at least a few others. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007676
I'm still debating if it annoys me enough to justify an exchange.
Hey,
I got my Galaxy Tab S3 today and to my surprise, Youtube videos and Twitch streams have black bars on top and bottom of the video. I knew the S3 had a 4:3 ratio before I purchased it, but I didn't think that it would affect video playback.
My question is if there is a way to make it show 16:9 videos without black bars at top and bottom?
You could chop off some of the stuff on the sides and convertting the video to a 4:3 format. Shouldn't have any bars that way...
I guess I just bought the wrong tab for viewing videos. The black bars is annoying as hell for me.
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Hey,
I got my Galaxy Tab S3 today and to my surprise, Youtube videos and Twitch streams have black bars on top and bottom of the video. I knew the S3 had a 4:3 ratio before I purchased it, but I didn't think that it would affect video playback.
My question is if there is a way to make it show 16:9 videos without black bars at top and bottom?
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Surely you realise it's impossible to fit a 16:9 image within a 4:3 screen without either compressing the image vertically or chopping the sides off?
Mxplayer will let you adjust the ratio to whatever you want if you wish to fill the screen.
If you want true 16:10 then the Tab S is still the best option.
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The black bars is annoying as hell for me.
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Try this:
* Jedi hand-wave* These are not the black bars you are looking for.
In the event of a sub-par connection to The Force, you could try watching in a sufficiently dark room to trick your mind into not seeing the black bars.
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Try this:
* Jedi hand-wave* These are not the black bars you are looking for.
In the event of a sub-par connection to The Force, you could try watching in a sufficiently dark room to trick your mind into not seeing the black bars.
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That didn't work.
I went with Ashyx's suggestion and found a cheap used Tab S. The screen is about the same just with 16:9 aspect ratio.
I'm only going to use it for movies/series, watching streams and Youtube. Don't need all the other fancy specs the S3 has for that.
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Surely you realise it's impossible to fit a 16:9 image within a 4:3 screen without either compressing the image vertically or chopping the sides off?
Mxplayer will let you adjust the ratio to whatever you want if you wish to fill the screen.
If you want true 16:10 then the Tab S is still the best option.
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I honestly didn't think it would matter. I thought it was just a matter of using a program to change the aspect ratio and resolution to go with it and it would work. Like on a PC monitor or TV. Tried that and didn't work like I thought it would.
I went with your suggestion and found myself a Tab S 10.5 for cheap. I only care about the screen and not the other specs. Only difference between the S3 and S is the aspect ratio and HDR capable. I get my HDR fix on my TV.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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I honestly didn't think it would matter. I thought it was just a matter of using a program to change the aspect ratio and resolution to go with it and it would work. Like on a PC monitor or TV. Tried that and didn't work like I thought it would.
I went with your suggestion and found myself a Tab S 10.5 for cheap. I only care about the screen and not the other specs. Only difference between the S3 and S is the aspect ratio and HDR capable. I get my HDR fix on my TV.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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Dont play the the Tab S down too much it is still a formidable device and still the best looking tablet of all the Tab S line.
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Dont play the the Tab S down too much it is still a formidable device and still the best looking tablet of all the Tab S line.
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Probably the best 16:9 screen of all the tablets out today as well. I take amoled over lcd any day with a tablet.
Stonga said:
That didn't work.
I went with Ashyx's suggestion and found a cheap used Tab S. The screen is about the same just with 16:9 aspect ratio.
I'm only going to use it for movies/series, watching streams and Youtube. Don't need all the other fancy specs the S3 has for that.
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The Tab S is still a great tablet, with a plethora of custom ROMs. If the battery in mine could hold a charge for more than 30min of light usage I wouldn't have upgraded to the S3
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The Tab S is still a great tablet, with a plethora of custom ROMs. If the battery in mine could hold a charge for more than 30min of light usage I wouldn't have upgraded to the S3
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This is exactly the reason I decided on the tab s3. My tab s 8.4 is a great unit plugged in, but dead within an hour or so doing anything other than playing poweramp with the screen/wifi off. It does amuse me that 16:9 content on the S3 is only a little bigger than on my 8.4, but the faster specs are nice for casting Kodi or Amazon Video content to the tele.
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This is exactly the reason I decided on the tab s3. My tab s 8.4 is a great unit plugged in, but dead within an hour or so doing anything other than playing poweramp with the screen/wifi off. It does amuse me that 16:9 content on the S3 is only a little bigger than on my 8.4, but the faster specs are nice for casting Kodi or Amazon Video content to the tele.
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You own both tabs. Is there a noticeable difference between the quality of the screens?
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You own both tabs. Is there a noticeable difference between the quality of the screens?
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I prefer the screen on my old Tab S 10.5 to the one on my Tab S3. It has a higher resolution (2560x1600 vs 2048x1536) and pixel density (288ppi vs 264ppi).
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You own both tabs. Is there a noticeable difference between the quality of the screens?
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I think they both look good. I can't say I notice the ppi difference, but I don't exactly bury my face into the screen. I prefer the 16:10 ratio and the tab s 8.4 size, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any decent spec'd tablets currently available.
I have both now.
Side by side when playing a 60fps youtube video, the image movement is smoother on the S3 compared to the Tab S, but the black bars is gone.