Camera window scratched - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I've been using my Note since I got it in March of this year. I didn't purchase a case as I had my iPhone 3GS for close to 3 years and never had an issue dropping it or damaging it.
A few weeks ago I took a picture and it didn't look real good. I opened other pictures I had taken previously and they looked much sharper. I looked into settings and everything looked normal. I looked at the camera window and noticed it was scratched and dirty looking. I tried cleaning it but that didn't do anything.
I contacted Samsung and was told this is physical damage and I need to pay to get this fixed.
I'm not one to try and get everything fixed for free but in this case I think it's a poor design of the camera window as it isn't caved in and sticks out and can get scratched by having the phone rest on it's back. I think this is the normal way to place the phone when I'm not using it.
I would like to know if you guys think this is a poor design or if I'm the one who messed it up ? I know I could of bought a case and this would of never happened but I think if a phone needs a case to keep this from happening then Samsung should supply the case or worn you that you need one. My iPhone 3GS with no case never had an issue with the camera window getting scratched.
If you think this should be covered under warranty how should I convince Samsung as they tell me it's not.
Thanks for your time.

Just hard brick it and return it in for warranty. That's how most folks nowadays do it.
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I can't speak for your phone, but I never use a case on any phone. My phones go through hell, very dusty and harsh environment (custom cabinet maker / installer). I have never had a problem with my camera lense cover. And I'm the guy who walks in the office and does the toss slide on the desk with my phone. But one thing I'm very good about is nothing ever goes in the pocket with my phone. Change, keys, lighter, none of that. But as hard as they try to make sure everything they produce is of the same quality, there are exceptions that slip through the cracks.
I love my note!

21productionz said:
I can't speak for your phone, but I never use a case on any phone. My phones go through hell, very dusty and harsh environment (custom cabinet maker / installer). I have never had a problem with my camera lense cover. And I'm the guy who walks in the office and does the toss slide on the desk with my phone. But one thing I'm very good about is nothing ever goes in the pocket with my phone. Change, keys, lighter, none of that. But as hard as they try to make sure everything they produce is of the same quality, there are exceptions that slip through the cracks.
I love my note!
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I always put in my pockets with nothing in my pockets. I will admit I do put it on the counter when I'm at a bar and may move it around on the counter but I still think a 600 dollar phone shouldn't have the camera window flush where it can get scratched.
I sent Samsung an email telling them I find this unacceptable and that this should of never happened and it's not because I'm careless. If they expect us to use a case then supply it with the phone or maybe tell us to never put the phone on it's back as the camera window may get scratched. Guess if they still expect me to pay to get the window changed I will have to learn how to hard brick the phone.
I love my Note and changed because I liked the bigger screen and having a better camera than my iPhone 3GS. I've dealt with Samsung for an issue with my TV and it was pretty hard to get things resolved. Now I have an issue with one of there phones and it seems to be an issue again. My 3GS had an issue with the sensor called Apple got an appointment at an Apple store got there 15 minutes later I was out with a new phone. The new phone had the power supply burn up. Same scenario call got to the Apple store 15 minutes later out with a new phone. That being said I prefer Android over iOS but for customer service Samsung is way behind Apple.
Thanks for the replies. Will keep yo posted on the reply from Samsung to my latest email.

That's your bad my camera is fine and I've had it since pre-order. No case either.
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I hate to say this but "IF it had a case, this probabaly would've never happend". The HTC one X camera bulges out and so far there isn't a lot of complaints about the camera lense getting scraped. Claiming that it was poorly designed is just a bad excuse.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"

I never touch my lens with anything but a micro-cloth (plus it's in a fairly thick case, so sliding it around isn't an issue), and even then I got a scratch on it straight through the middle the first week I had the phone. But it's not noticeable in pictures. You'd REALLY have to screw up the lens to be able to see anything in a picture, the focal point is so far away from the lens...
EDIT: You may be able to just find a replacement lens and fix it yourself. I did that on a prior phone when the lens cracked from being dropped.

The camera is just that lens with a ribbon cable that connects it to the mainboard. Its not too hard to remove. I have seen replacements for other phones available.

Thanks for the replies. All I know my pictures look grainy now and when I look at the lens/window it's dull looking and I can't get it back clear. If I messed this up I would like to know how I did this as I have done nothing different with my Note compared to my 3GS. Will look into trying to fix this myself as paying 75-100 to get this done by the Samsung service center is expensive. I could understand if I did something stupid to mess it up but as far as I know I didn't.

DS1969 said:
I've been using my Note since I got it in March of this year. I didn't purchase a case as I had my iPhone 3GS for close to 3 years and never had an issue dropping it or damaging it.
A few weeks ago I took a picture and it didn't look real good. I opened other pictures I had taken previously and they looked much sharper. I looked into settings and everything looked normal. I looked at the camera window and noticed it was scratched and dirty looking. I tried cleaning it but that didn't do anything.
I contacted Samsung and was told this is physical damage and I need to pay to get this fixed.
I'm not one to try and get everything fixed for free but in this case I think it's a poor design of the camera window as it isn't caved in and sticks out and can get scratched by having the phone rest on it's back. I think this is the normal way to place the phone when I'm not using it.
I would like to know if you guys think this is a poor design or if I'm the one who messed it up ? I know I could of bought a case and this would of never happened but I think if a phone needs a case to keep this from happening then Samsung should supply the case or worn you that you need one. My iPhone 3GS with no case never had an issue with the camera window getting scratched.
Thanks for your time.
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Hi, perhaps you should look into getting a replacement lens from ebay.
Here's a link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-SAMSUNG...795739?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20c9df1c9b
If you think this should be covered under warranty how should I convince Samsung as they tell me it's not.

DS1969 said:
Thanks for the replies. All I know my pictures look grainy now and when I look at the lens/window it's dull looking and I can't get it back clear. If I messed this up I would like to know how I did this as I have done nothing different with my Note compared to my 3GS. Will look into trying to fix this myself as paying 75-100 to get this done by the Samsung service center is expensive. I could understand if I did something stupid to mess it up but as far as I know I didn't.
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You obviously did if it's not an issue for anyone else...
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Otterbox. Period.
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Yes ....otterbox ....
Mine has been very effective ....g

I don't really like cases but I went with the otterbox commuter and I love it. You might want to look into a case once you fix the camera.

My outside silver bezel was scratched from dropping and it also has the camera window. Not to hard to replace. Just need to undo screws and something to pry it off. Found part on eBay.
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If you've been relegated to spending money to fix it or getting a warranty replacement, maybe try to polish it first, it has worked for me in the past with similar issues. I don't know if its a polycarbonate lense, but automotive stuff always helped me. Meguiars plastiX is the stuff I've used with reasonable success, at least with plastic parts. Maybe trying something like that will help clear it up, if the scratching isn't too deep anyway.

I am going to try this tonight.. as i also have a very very beat up camera window and mines been in a case from day 1. but its in my pocket with countless other things. i am going to try and hand polish it and if that fails low speed dremel with a polish wheel and some polish creme lololol worst that happens is i screw it up.. i've got a spare note anyways. I'll try and post some before an after pictures.
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after looking at the protective shell its just plastic and not even attached to the camera. you can buy the replacement lens cover here for $5 and its 9 screws to change it out
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140854323974

That's what I did. Hardest part is popping off the piece. I used something called an orange stick (plastic wedge thing). Its very easy though, hope it works out for you.
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ukguy115 said:
That's what I did. Hardest part is popping off the piece. I used something called an orange stick (plastic wedge thing). Its very easy though, hope it works out for you.
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If u take the phone apart so the back is off 9 screws and a case opener tool. you can bend those tabs straight and the piece falls right out. drop the new one in and bend the tabs down and done.

If you take some paper and roll it up and put it on either side of the camera when you're snapping the back cover on it will make it pop up enough to stick out a bit further than the camera cover but not so far as to stop it from locking all the clips on the cover. When you put it back down after that the camera cover doesn't touch the table.

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Cracked Screen after 1-week

Had phone since the Sunday it was released...screen has developed a crack at the bottom, just above the capac. buttons going completely across the screen.
Everything still works fine, but is obnoxious to look at.
Heres the thing... (and I know people will doubt this) but I haven't dropped the phone at all. Not even set it down roughly. This morning, everything was normal...went to go to work and put it in my bag by itself (correction - only other thing in there was a book and a wool hat). Got to work, took my phone out and BLAM, crack stretching from one side to the other. No marks around the bumpers or anything. I'm completely nonplussed at what could have happened. My thinking is flex *could* have done this, but that seems like it'd need a hell of a lot of pressure to do.
Well, ATT won't cover it, samsung won't cover it and the quoted repair cost is $200. Deductible for ATT phone insurance is...you guessed it...$200 (or $250 can't remember).
Anyone have any luck with these flybynight screen repair shops? I don't think they'd have the parts in stock for the phone since it is new and kind of a fringe product.
I'm seriously pissed...hung around with my iphone 3g for 3 years waiting for a good phone to upgrade to..finally blow my upgrade and a week later blam.
Rant!
You have a warranty just send it in to get fixed
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It should be obvious it wasn't dropped.
just take it back under warranty and get it replaced.
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Yes warranty would work as long as it doesn't look dropped down.
raviluke said:
Yes warranty would work as long as it doesn't look dropped down.
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I called Samsung on the phone and they told me it wouldn't be covered under warranty... I did explain to them that it hadn't been dropped or anything. Should I call and pester them again?
balorok said:
I called Samsung on the phone and they told me it wouldn't be covered under warranty... I did explain to them that it hadn't been dropped or anything. Should I call and pester them again?
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I would take it to a different AT&T location and see if they'll replace it. Sounds like you got a rubbish device. I can't imagine they would replace it, as long as it's obvious it hasn't been dropped.
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Some photos of the damage/device, I have more of just about every angle. I cannot find *any* indication of external damage which makes sense, but still the screen is jacked.
I bet the book fid that. That happened to our recrptionist to her iphone. A book in the back pack. She is a college studemt.
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I would imagine the book definitely did that. Don't let them know that though ;-)
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A paperback book could do that? Thats actually very concerning to me as a consumer. I'm extremely cautious with my electronics (ask my wife, she will eyeroll ) and to have something like this occur without any strenuous contact being made with the phone is appalling.
First Samsung phone, and unfortunately will most likely be my last. It looks and operates flawlessly and was exactly what I wanted... but I can't for the life of me see spending that kind of money on something that can essentially break through such light use.
balorok said:
Had phone since the Sunday it was released...screen has developed a crack at the bottom, just above the capac. buttons going completely across the screen.
Everything still works fine, but is obnoxious to look at.
Heres the thing... (and I know people will doubt this) but I haven't dropped the phone at all. Not even set it down roughly. This morning, everything was normal...went to go to work and put it in my bag by itself (correction - only other thing in there was a book and a wool hat). Got to work, took my phone out and BLAM, crack stretching from one side to the other. No marks around the bumpers or anything. I'm completely nonplussed at what could have happened. My thinking is flex *could* have done this, but that seems like it'd need a hell of a lot of pressure to do.
Well, ATT won't cover it, samsung won't cover it and the quoted repair cost is $200. Deductible for ATT phone insurance is...you guessed it...$200 (or $250 can't remember).
Anyone have any luck with these flybynight screen repair shops? I don't think they'd have the parts in stock for the phone since it is new and kind of a fringe product.
I'm seriously pissed...hung around with my iphone 3g for 3 years waiting for a good phone to upgrade to..finally blow my upgrade and a week later blam.
Rant!
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buy a replacement from ebay and fix it yourself. shouldnt be too difficult, I have replaced my iphones and my sensations screen and they pretty much were the same
I tried looking on ebay for a replacement, but perhaps I'm searching for the wrong thing...
can you share a link?
After calling just about every ATT store in town and explaining the problem, I found one willing to exchange it for a new one no questions asked.
I'm still worried about the durability of the phone since nothing major occurred that should cause this amount of damage. Hopefully I just had a defective screen or something and this one will last me a long, long time.
i carry my note in my pocket (I'm a big guy) it rides in the front pocket all day was case-less for the first week i mean i worked played and goofed off with it there can't even tell. i think u just got a bad glass display it is mass produced product and defects do happen.
I myself was very impressed with the build quality of the phone how sturdy it felt despite its lack of depth. So i'd just be aware and keep ur books away from it
should probably just start storing my books on the damn thing
balorok said:
After calling just about every ATT store in town and explaining the problem, I found one willing to exchange it for a new one no questions asked.
I'm still worried about the durability of the phone since nothing major occurred that should cause this amount of damage. Hopefully I just had a defective screen or something and this one will last me a long, long time.
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Im guessing you just had a faulty screen. Gorilla glass can take some serious pressure, and is even pretty damn good at shock resistance. I've dropped my old captivate and infuse countless times without a case and never cracked a screen. Hell, last summer my captivate took a kick from a full grown horse when it was in my pocket, and the screen survived. The hoof hit the back of my captivate, bent the backplate and battery, but the screen was fine. It saved me from a huge bruise, that's for sure.
I think you will be fine with a new device, because it sounds like a faulty screen. Don't let one faulty Samsung ruin Samsung for you forever. They make great devices, and their screens are matched by none. Other manufacturers are just as likely do have a defective device, you just got really unlucky with your first note.
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I have already dropped my note face down on a corner (it was in a speck case and had a clear screen protector on) and knock on wood it was fine. It is very possible that its just a faulty screen. I would pesster the heck out of at&t and samsung til i got a new phone. They will budge you just have to be persistant.
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I am anal about my devices also, and the thought of just throwing it in a bag makes me cringe! Always front left pocket for me, no exceptions!
balorok said:
A paperback book could do that? Thats actually very concerning to me as a consumer. I'm extremely cautious with my electronics (ask my wife, she will eyeroll ) and to have something like this occur without any strenuous contact being made with the phone is appalling.
First Samsung phone, and unfortunately will most likely be my last. It looks and operates flawlessly and was exactly what I wanted... but I can't for the life of me see spending that kind of money on something that can essentially break through such light use.
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No offense, but if you stuffed your Note in a bag with a book or anything else, you're not really that cautious with your electronics. There's a reason I have never damaged any of my phones or tablets. It's because I don't do things like that.
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No offense, but if you stuffed your Note in a bag with a book or anything else, you're not really that cautious with your electronics. There's a reason I have never damaged any of my phones or tablets. It's because I don't do things like that.
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I'm not sure where you got the idea that I "stuffed" it in a bag. The bag in question was a messenger style bag with separate internal pockets, phone was in one, book in the other. Book was a paperback (you can actually see it in my photos) about 200 pages thick.
UPDATE:
Second phone screen cracked. Top of screen near the front camera. Had it less than 24 hours - took it back and they exchanged it again with no issues.
Got it at around 4pm, took it home, put it in case (SGP) and put it to charge, went to the gym and then came home and did some programming for a few hours before bed. Phone stayed on charger the whole time. Next morning I put (note: did not "stuff") the phone into my right front pocket of my jeans (normal jeans, not skinny or anything). It was the only thing in the pocket, had a wallet in my back right pocket and some disposable eye contacts in my left front pocket. Walked about 3 blocks to a lecture checked email on the phone - no crack. sat with it in the pocket (front right) for about an hour and a half, then got up and walked home. Got home took the phone out...crack! About an inch long from the very edge of the glass towards the middle of the phone.
I can't make this stuff up. Took it to the store and they replaced it for me again. Manager said something about maybe they got tussled around during shipment or packing.
Both cracked were white devices. The phone I have now is a black one.
I'm trying to think of reasons why this could have occurred twice. First time could possibly have been from being in the bag, but I wasn't throwing the bag around or anything like that. Second time? Who knows... if walking with a phone in your pocket causes it to break...
I am super thankful that I found a store willing to do the exchanges, and I do love this phone...but what the heck!

Note FLAWS!

I'm about to go trade my black note for a white one. But I've been hearing about some manufacturing defects... Such as cracks and black screen?
Can someone explain to me so I can inspect the new note while I'm at the store?
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I have a white note. Neither of those issues exist on my unit of that helps.
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HarmonyFlame said:
I have a white note. Neither of those issues exist on my unit of that helps.
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+ 1 to this. Mine's fine.
Don't let all the negative reviews freak you out.. Go ahead and swap the chance of a lemon is very slim. My gf and I both have had flawless white notes.
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Dnt listen to that crap. Ppl who write those things do not feel comfy even with their body of course they will find "problems" with the note and keep exchanging it twoce a week. This is very good quality built phone get it!
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The white one is Stunning!
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
I agree with everybody else. I also have a white Note, and it's just fine. No cracls, no "black crush" (stupid name if you ask me). This is why I hate those stupid threads by people who examine their phones with a microscope, then create threads when they find the most miniscule flaws, which otherwise wouldn't be seen. Go ahead and pull the trigger on the white version.
BTW, if you look hard enough, youbwill always find a tiny imperfection. Five million Notes have shipped, and only fraction of them have had problems. No more than any other phone on the market.
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PeartFan40 said:
I agree with everybody else. I also have a white Note, and it's just fine. No cracls, no "black crush" (stupid name if you ask me). This is why I hate those stupid threads by people who examine their phones with a microscope, then create threads when they find the most miniscule flaws, which otherwise wouldn't be seen. Go ahead and pull the trigger on the white version.
BTW, if you look hard enough, youbwill always find a tiny imperfection. Five million Notes have shipped, and only fraction of them have had problems. No more than any other phone on the market.
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And then they bloody return them. I swear I'd smack some of the guys who return **** from this forum
My white note is flawless
Felinos11 said:
Dnt listen to that crap. Ppl who write those things do not feel comfy even with their body of course they will find "problems" with the note and keep exchanging it twoce a week. This is very good quality built phone get it!
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These "problems" are real. I have both on my phone, but I could really care less about either. Don't let it stop you from getting a white one as it has nothing to do with the color.
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Every phone is susceptible to flaws, white just shows more that black. Get the white one if thats what you really want. I only have the black one because i got a good deal off contract for it.
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IMHO the people that are getting cracks in their screens are the people that think they are taking good care of their phones but in reality are not taking care of them. I had my first cell in the late 90s and broke my antenna taking it out of my pocket so I learned never ever to put my cell back in my pocket under any circumstances. Pants do get looser and tighter as you sit and stand and pressure is put on the screen which is probably causing these cracks. Get the white note just take care of it and you will be fine. No pockets! No bags! Don't sleep with it! Don't set it near your drink! Dont put in the glove compartment so it will rattle around! Don't lay on your dash while driving!
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IMHO the people that are getting cracks in their screens are the people that think they are taking good care of their phones but in reality are not taking care of them. I had my first cell in the late 90s and broke my antenna taking it out of my pocket so I learned never ever to put my cell back in my pocket under any circumstances. Pants do get looser and tighter as you sit and stand and pressure is put on the screen which is probably causing these cracks. Get the white note just take care of it and you will be fine. No pockets! No bags! Don't sleep with it! Don't set it near your drink! Dont put in the glove compartment so it will rattle around! Don't lay on your dash while driving!
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These cracks aren't in the screens...
You don't need to be so anal with your phone... It's not a cheap toy these are built solid. First two weeks with my phone I had it completely naked and pocketed it. now I have a leather pouch and glas.t screen protector. Just remember that it'll cost you 800 for a new one and I'm sure you won't break it.
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The only issue with mine is a small alien that lives under my battery feeding off my phones power. That explains the crappy battery life.
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cgibsong002 said:
These cracks aren't in the screens...
You don't need to be so anal with your phone... It's not a cheap toy these are built solid. First two weeks with my phone I had it completely naked and pocketed it. now I have a leather pouch and glas.t screen protector. Just remember that it'll cost you 800 for a new one and I'm sure you won't break it.
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Your right they are not cheap toys but they sometimes get cracked screens if they are dropped from pocket level onto asphalt, but they are pretty well built. I'm not anal about my phone but I know no matter what if it breaks I either get my retired device of shell out $750 for a new one so I am very cautious. People can do what they want with their phones I was just giving advice based on my experience. I don't even take my phone outta the house, too much could happen and its really not that important to always have my cell with me. I don't have a text plan so I don't need it for texting and I would never walk/drive and text/talk. Nobody knows what is causing the so called flaws on the Notes but if mine get a scratch, chip or crack in it I will know exactly how it happened and won't have to sit and wonder whether its a defect or if I did it. I can keep a cell for 18 month till I upgrade and it still looks new but I too have scratched and even shattered phones so it happens to all of us. All I was sayin was if you know exactly where your phone is at all times it might not get a scratch or get broke.
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Your right they are not cheap toys but they sometimes get cracked screens if they are dropped from pocket level onto asphalt, but they are pretty well built. I'm not anal about my phone but I know no matter what if it breaks I either get my retired device of shell out $750 for a new one so I am very cautious. People can do what they want with their phones I was just giving advice based on my experience. I don't even take my phone outta the house, too much could happen and its really not that important to always have my cell with me. I don't have a text plan so I don't need it for texting and I would never walk/drive and text/talk. Nobody knows what is causing the so called flaws on the Notes but if mine get a scratch, chip or crack in it I will know exactly how it happened and won't have to sit and wonder whether its a defect or if I did it. I can keep a cell for 18 month till I upgrade and it still looks new but I too have scratched and even shattered phones so it happens to all of us. All I was sayin was if you know exactly where your phone is at all times it might not get a scratch or get broke.
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Mobile phones are exactly that, *mobile* phones. 99% of the people with cell phones use them when they are mobile. If you never take your's out of the house why spend so much for a cell plan? Just get a land line.

Cracks appearing on back case.

I noticed yesterday small cracks appearing round the edges of the openings in the white back of my S3. I've emailed Samsung to see what they will do about it but thought i'd see if anyone has had issues like this. I dont take the cover off my phone very often and i'd say it's been off less than 10 times since i've owned it (July).
gooshy said:
I noticed yesterday small cracks appearing round the edges of the openings in the white back of my S3. I've emailed Samsung to see what they will do about it but thought i'd see if anyone has had issues like this. I dont take the cover off my phone very often and i'd say it's been off less than 10 times since i've owned it (July).
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My brother's S3 had that and he barely removed it since he is using a case. Like once a month. It has been an issue since the beginning. You have to buy a new back cover if you can't live with that. Or a case.
Be aware these are some of the weakest parts of the case, if when removing the case you bend it back to far this may occurr. What is too far?, when that was
To open the case you should only pull it back ebnough to get your fingle nails under it and then pull it back and off without bending any of it, this is possible, i've had mine off numerous times this way with no damage at all.
New backs cost naff all though, just replace it fella.
Show iSheep why a removable back is so awesome... Get on ebay and buy a new one, they are really cheap (thank you plastic) then laugh at the iSheep you know who have to send it in for service when their precious chicken foil gets scratched.
delsus said:
Show iSheep why a removable back is so awesome... Get on ebay and buy a new one, they are really cheap (thank you plastic) then laugh at the iSheep you know who have to send it in for service when their precious chicken foil gets scratched.
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nexus 4
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Busted.
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nexus 4
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Offtopic, but wow!! That's a scary avatar
i take mine off all the time!!!! and i have NOOOO ISSUES
delsus said:
Show iSheep why a removable back is so awesome... Get on ebay and buy a new one, they are really cheap (thank you plastic) then laugh at the iSheep you know who have to send it in for service when their precious chicken foil gets scratched.
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This ^^
Samsung will probably claim user damage and take no responsibility anyway so hit ebay and get a new one.
Take the chance and show the iSheep what customization is all about - I've even seen a carbon fibre one for less than $10. A regular plastic one is even cheaper and there are all kinds of covers, plenty to choose from.
I have a crack like that too. And the white around the Samsung letters have also started flaking off.
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I have a crack like that too. And the white around the Samsung letters have also started flaking off.
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Buy one from ebay, you can buy metal/poly-carbonate and other sexy backs, or a very cheap regular one.
my white:silly: iphone 3gs developed similar cracks all by its self , i think something is wrong with the quality cuz my 3 weeks old galaxy s3 doesnt have any yet hopefully not in the future
Thanks for the responses, but I think a lot of people are missing the point. The back case is not fit for purpose. Yes I could easily go onto eBay and buy a new one and there are loads on there to choose from. As for iSheep, I've owned 4 iPhones previously and if I had this issue with any of them whilst still in warranty, Apple would have replaced my handset with out much hassle.
If Samsung ever get back to my support query and suggest that the cracks are caused by myself i'll be really disappointed. People can complain all they want about Apple products but their customer service is second to none when devices are still in warranty.
Flame away......
Same problem with my back cover, and only one point I change battery twice a day I will regular basics since 3 month so I do expect some wear and tear
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gooshy said:
Thanks for the responses, but I think a lot of people are missing the point. The back case is not fit for purpose. Yes I could easily go onto eBay and buy a new one and there are loads on there to choose from. As for iSheep, I've owned 4 iPhones previously and if I had this issue with any of them whilst still in warranty, Apple would have replaced my handset with out much hassle.
If Samsung ever get back to my support query and suggest that the cracks are caused by myself i'll be really disappointed. People can complain all they want about Apple products but their customer service is second to none when devices are still in warranty.
Flame away......
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Actually, from someone who worked at an applecare call center, I will disagree. We were actually instructed to always try to make it the user's fault if possible. It's easier than one would think. That and gut customers saying they're only covered for 1 year when you actually have 2 under Europe's laws. Only when the customer insist A LOT and starts citing laws, were we allowed to escalate the call to a second tier operator who'll still try but most likely end up complying with the customer's request for that 2nd year.
I could go on forever with the **** they have us pull on the customers (some are real asshats that actually deserve though)
Not saying Samsung's any better, I actually don't know how Samsung's service is (hell, I'm actually not expecting it to be any better) but trust me, Apple is not there for the customer, that I know. If you experienced better with Apple, I'll actually be glad since I wasn't cool with their behavior by any means.
Let us know how it turns out please
I bent mine in half and all the paint fractured on it, thought they were really flexible, I guess not
I few months ago i posted a thread with this same issue...
well, a few weeks later, I managed to fix my problem with a "non-cientific" method... to say at least... but it worked for me, don't know why... I removed the back cover... plugged the usb cable on the phone and put the back cover back to the phone with the usb cable plugged in... checked to see if it was properly fitted ... and believe it or not.. the crack on back case was gone...
give it a try... maybe works for you too

Pitting/surface scratches

Curious how everyone else's phones have been holding up so far. The back of my phone is covered in little specks, which appear to be from pitting and minor surface scratches. It's very disappointing since I've had my phone permanently in a case since I've had it. I'm wondering if the metal is just so soft that little vibrations while in the case is causing marks.
I'm hoping there's a way I can get them out but seeing as it has a brushed finish, I don't see it being all that easy.
That's indeed pretty surprising (marks with a case on). I would think the only way this would be possible, is if there was some grit or sand between the case and the device. If this were in fact true, I can see it rubbing on the finish over time (as others here have also mentioned). Even so, the scratches would probably just be in isolated areas, not for the back to be covered in scratches, unless there was grit captured everywhere inside the case. Which is very unlikely, as you would have noticed that.
The other possibility is scratches from a hard plastic case (you haven't mentioned what kind you have). Again, this is something that some folks on here have observed. But folks have mentioned scratches in a few isolated locations (like the edges) not covering the back.
I have had a cheap soft TPU case on my M8 for a month and a half, and not a single visible scratch on the back, that I can find.
The dirt/sand certainly makes sense. But I've repeatedly taken out the case and cleaned it, and it appears like I'm getting more of these. The case, is a soft tpu clear case.
Further, I only rarely use this case once a day for an hour when I go to the gym. The rest of the time my phone sits in my leather pouch, which I KNOW there's no way that's scratching it.
It certainly shouldn't be getting marked up like this from such careful use. I'll try to post pics later.

			
				
Sorry for the linked images. You can download them to see full size. It's very difficult to capture up close. But you can see the specks all ordier the phone.
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Anyone? I'm wondering if there's a defect in my casing and if I should ask for a new one or not. Combined with my letters falling out my resale value is definitely going to hurt by this.
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Haven's seen anyone else complain about this. Its especially weird, since you have a case on the phone. I can only guess the finish is delaminating or falling off, regardless if any external wear/contact is present or not.
I'd say its a warranty issue, between this and the letters coming off. But you won't get a new one. AT&T's policy is that you get a refurb after 14 days of purchase. And I've heard mixed reports on the refurbs (on past devices). Some are indistinguishable from new; while others are beat up, or may even have some hardware issues that weren't fixed properly.
A refurb is exactly what I'm afraid of. I don't want to trade in a phone with cosmetic issues for one with potentially worse issues. Any way of getting them to send a new one? AT&T has been nothing short of great for me in the past but Idk about getting a new phone replacement.
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cgibsong002 said:
Any way of getting them to send a new one? AT&T has been nothing short of great for me in the past but Idk about getting a new phone replacement.
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Its not in their policy. But you can always ask . . . than complain, kick and scream, etc.
Its also not in their policy to let folks switch to another brand/model. But I've seen that happen when folks complain enough. Highlight how long you've been a customer, if you have multiple lines, etc. Not sure if they have ever sent out brand new phones for warranty claims. But it sure doesn't hurt to try.
Just thought I'd add, I'm having the exact same issue with the Google Play Edition in a clear TPU case too! Were you using a Spigen case by any chance?
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Just thought I'd add, I'm having the exact same issue with the Google Play Edition in a clear TPU case too! Were you using a Spigen case by any chance?
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Wow, strange, mine too, exact same case. I took the case off the other day to clean it, it was looking nasty, and sure enough there was like some kind of grit in there. I bet that's what's doing it. Of course that's the least of my worries, it fell out of my pocket and I ran this thing over with my tractor, and crushed the side so far that I had to pry out the volume buttons, they were stuck, lol, had tire marks across the screen even. This thing is a tough phone!
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Wow, strange, mine too, exact same case. I took the case off the other day to clean it, it was looking nasty, and sure enough there was like some kind of grit in there. I bet that's what's doing it. Of course that's the least of my worries, it fell out of my pocket and I ran this thing over with my tractor, and crushed the side so far that I had to pry out the volume buttons, they were stuck, lol, had tire marks across the screen even. This thing is a tough phone!
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Haha, very nice. Good to hear it'll survive a tractor lol. I feel like I should leave a review on that case. It seems to be flawed if it's allowing grit in. I'd consider my use quite typical, not near any sand or dirt. I'm pretty sure that lost me $100 in resellability.

Glass Back Cracked!

Nooooo!!!!
I have only had my phone for 2 weeks and I was sitting outside of Starbucks with my phone on my lap, and this yellow jacket bee kept flying around me. So I stood up to get away from it, while forgetting my phone was on my lap. CRASH! My V30 without a case falls off my lap about 20 inches down onto the cement.
It caused a small spider web crack in the corner of the back glass. One of then cracks extends to the camera lens area. On thr bright side the screen is fine and the camera lens is fine with no cracks. Plus its only mostly the corner thats cracked on the back. But still, it really really sucks since I just got this phone.
I know some of you are thinking I was stupid for not having a case. Maybe so, but keep in mind I pretty much never had cases on my 6P or my S7 Edge. I only dropped my 6P once real bad on a hard surface (fell out of pants with a smaller pocket while sitting) which only left a scuff on the edge with the display fine, and never once dropped my S7 on a hard surface in over a year with it. So I have always been super careful with my phones. Never dropping my phone in years that was a result of my clumsiness or carless.
I guess its just a matter of time though no matter how careful you are handling your phone. Its bound to fall somehow when its not your fault. Like sliding off a slippery surface, falling out of a small pocket, or similar. Anyways I called a local phone repair shop and the good news is the back glass is only $70-$75.
I don't think I am going to get it done just yet since the display is fine, camera lens is fine, and its only the corner of the back. But I probably will eventually before I resell the phone in 1-2 years. Anyways kind of disappointed a military certified phone cracked for such short fall. This is why I prefer metal backed phones so much more. Anyways hopefully this info of how easy it cracks and the cost to replace the back out there being pretty cheap helps some others out there.
*Puts case back on my V30*
Yeah, I watched a couple of videos on what happens to GG 4 & 5 with drop tests and decided mine would stay in a case. Added bonus of keeping finger prints off of the actual phone back and just on a plastic case.
I have several cases I've bought to put on my LG V30 when I actually buy the phone. You can buy very good cases for even a couple of dollars on ebay. I started the LG V30 cases thread, because most people don't know that.
You can even buy clear cases if you still want to show off the phone.
Cases for LG V30
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/accessories/lg-v30-t3667430
Just putting that out there for people who still need a case. At those prices, order 2 or 3!
ChazzMatt said:
You can even buy clear cases if you still want to show off the phone.
Cases for LG V30
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/accessories/lg-v30-t3667430
Just putting that out there for people who still need a case. At those prices, order 2 or 3!
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Yeah I already have a case, I just didn't have it on because I don't really like having one. I got it on now though. Ita a slim fitting case by Lumion. I never heard of this case company before but I really like it. I'm probably going to give the Spigen Crystal case a try too.
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Yeah I already have a case, I just didn't have it on because I don't really like having one. I got it on now though. Ita a slim fitting case by Lumion. I never heard of this case company before but I really like it. I'm probably going to give the Spigen Crystal case a try too.
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I'm very sorry for your accident. Ugh.
At least you know it can be repaired easily.
If the glass is still smooth, you can always put a skin over it.
This is one concern causing me pause in my purchase. Why there can't be a nice carbon fiber replacement back for this phone, I don't know. Motorola had a good idea going with the "design your own phone" during the Droid Turbo / Turbo 2 days, they just gave up on it too early.
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This is one concern causing me pause in my purchase. Why there can't be a nice carbon fiber replacement back for this phone, I don't know
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b'cause it's not waterproof, or your can't glue it like glass
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b'cause it's not waterproof, or your can't glue it like glass
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That's the beauty of carbon fiber composites. The resin it's molded in is waterproof, gluing is about the only way to attach it to anything, it can be built up as thick as needed to create a reliable sealing edge or stiffness to the back. And it's radio transparent, so no issue with wireless charging. It can be textured, to make it more grippy.
The ccf aesthetic isn't for everyone, I get that, but it would be great as an option, and would be completely workable.
That is a bummer that it cracked. I am super impressed by the strength of this device though, my embarrassing story about it. Bought a new TV for my living room, decided I needed to take my old TV down to the basement and thought I could wrangle the 60" TV by myself, took two steps down and slipped, fell super hard all the way down the stairs with my phone in my back pocket. Huge bruises on my back, butt, arm and legs, the phone I was positive was a goner. Took it out of the case and to my amazement not a scratch and the glass looks perfect, however there is a size-able dent on one side of the phone and it is pushing the screen out. Everything works perfect and like I said, it did not crack at all, I am not a small guy, between me and the TV it took a 300 lb hit on the edge of a step and then several more hits down the stairs.
Of course I went to T-Mobile and they laughed and said "We can't take a bent phone back" luckily I am still in the 14 days grace period and will be adding insurance so I can get a replacement. It works, but is a little annoying to use this way. And to end the story on a high note, I did save the TV, did not let go of it!
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That is a bummer that it cracked. I am super impressed by the strength of this device though, my embarrassing story about it. Bought a new TV for my living room, decided I needed to take my old TV down to the basement and thought I could wrangle the 60" TV by myself, took two steps down and slipped, fell super hard all the way down the stairs with my phone in my back pocket. Huge bruises on my back, butt, arm and legs, the phone I was positive was a goner. Took it out of the case and to my amazement not a scratch and the glass looks perfect, however there is a size-able dent on one side of the phone and it is pushing the screen out. Everything works perfect and like I said, it did not crack at all, I am not a small guy, between me and the TV it took a 300 lb hit on the edge of a step and then several more hits down the stairs.
Of course I went to T-Mobile and they laughed and said "We can't take a bent phone back" luckily I am still in the 14 days grace period and will be adding insurance so I can get a replacement. It works, but is a little annoying to use this way. And to end the story on a high note, I did save the TV, did not let go of it!
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A quick and healthy recovery!
My wife had dropped her v30 TWICE already in a week... Both times it luckily hit a corner and no glass cracked or scratched. Just a scuff on the metal of each bottom corner. So damn lucky with that so far... her case finally showed up the day after the second drop.
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Nooooo!!!!
I have only had my phone for 2 weeks and I was sitting outside of Starbucks with my phone on my lap, and this yellow jacket bee kept flying around me. So I stood up to get away from it, while forgetting my phone was on my lap. CRASH! My V30 without a case falls off my lap about 20 inches down onto the cement.
It caused a small spider web crack in the corner of the back glass. One of then cracks extends to the camera lens area. On thr bright side the screen is fine and the camera lens is fine with no cracks. Plus its only mostly the corner thats cracked on the back. But still, it really really sucks since I just got this phone.
I know some of you are thinking I was stupid for not having a case. Maybe so, but keep in mind I pretty much never had cases on my 6P or my S7 Edge. I only dropped my 6P once real bad on a hard surface (fell out of pants with a smaller pocket while sitting) which only left a scuff on the edge with the display fine, and never once dropped my S7 on a hard surface in over a year with it. So I have always been super careful with my phones. Never dropping my phone in years that was a result of my clumsiness or carless.
I guess its just a matter of time though no matter how careful you are handling your phone. Its bound to fall somehow when its not your fault. Like sliding off a slippery surface, falling out of a small pocket, or similar. Anyways I called a local phone repair shop and the good news is the back glass is only $70-$75.
I don't think I am going to get it done just yet since the display is fine, camera lens is fine, and its only the corner of the back. But I probably will eventually before I resell the phone in 1-2 years. Anyways kind of disappointed a military certified phone cracked for such short fall. This is why I prefer metal backed phones so much more. Anyways hopefully this info of how easy it cracks and the cost to replace the back out there being pretty cheap helps some others out there.
*Puts case back on my V30*
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Sorry to hear that. I couldn't stand using a cracked phone so I really feel ya.
Good luck with the repairs!
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NeutronBomb said:
My wife had dropped her v30 TWICE already in a week... Both times it luckily hit a corner and no glass cracked or scratched. Just a scuff on the metal of each bottom corner. So damn lucky with that so far... her case finally showed up the day after the second drop.
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Whyyyy couldn't have mine done that?!
Actually I think the sides of this phone are super reinforced. Way more than more glass phones. I think mine just fell at the absolute worst angle that hit it just right. Just thankfully it was not the display!
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Sorry to hear that. I couldn't stand using a cracked phone so I really feel ya.
Good luck with the repairs!
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Thanks! I also found the glass back is on Ebay for only about $18 and comes with the little tool to replace it. So I might just do that myself. I watched a video of how to take the back off.
I only have 2 worries if I do it myself.
1.) Making sure the new glass back seals on tight enough still be at least mostly water proof and
2.) Removing the finger print sensor from the old back to the new back. The video I watched doesnt show how to remove the finger print sensor. But once I find a video on someone removing and reattaching the finger print sensor, then I will pull the trigger for the $18 glass back.
So much for military certified durability :laugh: :crying:
Also you'll lose the ip68 rating by replacing that yourself most lowly just a heads up. Watch the video of Jerry rig everything. When he made a clear v30. Really good on how to open phone
Happened to one of the phones on my account. Fell about 3 feet on a wood floor and the back has a hairline crack. I'll skin it, put it in a case and be done with it.
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.......Of course I went to T-Mobile and they laughed and said "We can't take a bent phone back" luckily I am still in the 14 days grace period and will be adding insurance so I can get a replacement. It works, but is a little annoying to use this way. And to end the story on a high note, I did save the TV, did not let go of it!
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That's quite a story! That should be in a V30 durability ad. Opening shot of the big dent and bulged screen with the phone speaking in "android voice" saying, "yeah, I took quite a beating, but you should see the other guy!" Then a fade in shot of you looking all sheepish and bruised from head to toe with a final fade out slow-mo reenactment of the fateful tussle.
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That's quite a story! That should be in a V30 durability ad. Opening shot of the big dent and bulged screen with the phone speaking in "android voice" saying, "yeah, I took quite a beating, but you should see the other guy!" Then a fade in shot of you looking all sheepish and bruised from head to toe with a final fade out slow-mo reenactment of the fateful tussle.
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Lol, love it, I will have to email LG!
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Lol, love it, I will have to email LG!
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Do it! This is too good to pass over.

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