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Nokia Lumia 800 (Black) Review
By XDA member Warren.D
Here’s a review I did for Nokia as they were generous enough to send me a Lumia 800. If I have missed out anything in particular or you have a request/question, inbox me and I’ll do what I can.
Pictures to follow Shortly.
Included in the box:
- Nokia Lumia 800
- Headphones (Without extra buds)
- USB cable
- AC adapter
- Phone Case
- Documentation & Manuals.
Nokia was kind enough to include a rubberised protection case in the box, its rather good quality too, although it can be quite fiddly to fit it on. One downfall I found was that they didn’t include any spare ear buds for the headphones, though I had some spares laying around. The headphones themselves are rather good quality too, they’re sturdy and they sound more than adequate.
Design & Build
Height - 116.5mm
Width – 61.2mm
Thickness – 12.1mm
Weight – 142g
The Apple iPhone now has a serious Rival. The Lumia 800 is truly a beautiful device you can clearly tell that Nokia has put a lot of thought and effort into the design of this phone. It’s resembles the N9 but has a smaller display and touch capacitive buttons. It’s available in 3 colours, Black, Cyan and Magenta.
In no way does the Lumia 800 feel heavy or bulky. It’s made from a single piece of polycarbonate plastic therefore the phone feels very sturdy in the hand, it has sufficient grip (without the case), and has a nice premium feel and Its extremely comfortable to use, even for prolonged periods. The 3.7inch Corning Gorilla Glass display has curved edges making it feel more natural to use, Swiping left to right is an absolute breeze. Nokia included their ‘AMOLED ClearBlack’ technology and the display really is vibrant and crisp. The blacks are truly black, you cannot tell where the display ends when you’ve selected the black WP7 theme. Also unlike my Galaxy S II, the screen does not collect fingerprints!
The 3.5mm headphone jack is located at the top, making it easy to hold and insert into your pocket when listening to music. Next to the jack, we have the Micro-USB/Charging Port which is located under a little door. Although it looks like it is fiddly to use and people have reported that its flimsy, it really isn’t anything to worry about, It helps keep the dust out. Once you have the charging door open you can slide the Micro-SIM slot to the side and it releases, allowing you to insert or change the Micro-SIM. It’s really easy and saves using a battery cover and ruining the ‘seamless’ design of the phone.
Located on the left hand side is the volume rocker, power key and dedicated camera key. The camera key is a welcome addition; you can activate the camera in standby and take a quick snap within seconds, even when using a pass code lock. Though if you do use a pass code it will not allow access to anything other than the camera application, meaning the security of your device isn’t under threat. Located on the bottom we have the loudspeaker and on the back is the 8 Megapixel Carl Zeiss Camera, and a Dual LED flash.
Camera
The Nokia Lumia 800 features an 8 Megapixel sensor with Carl Zeiss optics, 2.2 aperture, Dual LED flash, Auto focus and touch to focus, max resolution of 3264 x 2448 pixels, HD video recording up to 720p, Geo-tagging and many more features
I’m no camera expert but the quality of the pictures I have taken so far have all been crystal clear and sharp. The dedicated camera key is brilliant, a feature that I wish my Galaxy S II had. Even when I have viewed the pictures on my laptop they are crystal clear. The HD video recording is brilliant too, and the sound levels are more than adequate. I’m sure the Lumia 800 will do an excellent job capturing all those moments in your life.
Specification Highlights
3.7inch Amoled ClearBlack display (480 x 800)
Corning Gorilla Glass
8 Megapixel Camera with Dual LED flash.
Single-Core Qualcomm MSM8255 CPU clocked at 1400 Mhz
512 Mb of Ram
16 gig of Memory (No Micro-SD slot)
1450mAh battery
WLAN 802.11 b/g/n
HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
HSDPA 14.4 Mbps
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
GPS & A-GPS
3D Accelerometer
Proximity sensor
Magnetometer Sensor (Compass)
Ambient Light Sensor
3G Standby - max 355hrs
3G Talk time - max 9.5hrs
Music Playback - max 55hrs
Full Specification list can be found at http://www.nokia.co.uk/gb-en/products/phone/lumia800/specifications/
Operating system and Applications
The Nokia Lumia 800 runs Windows Phone 7.5 mango, and does a good job of it too, Nokia have really worked their magic. It’s very fluid, snappy and smooth as butter. It really is a smooth experience, I can’t stress that enough. WP7 is still making a name for itself in the fast paced Smartphone economy and I’m sure this device is going to bring the platform a lot of attention. You won’t come across all the apps you’d find in the Android Market or iOS app store but the apps available for WP7 is on the increase as more developers are taking interest. Many of the most popular apps are available in the WP7 marketplace.
Nokia have included three exclusive apps,
Nokia Drive
Turn by turn voice navigation. This app is very useful and has been implemented well. It’s very accurate, and the GPS is spot on and locks with satellites within seconds. You can download the maps free of charge within the application; this saves you from worrying about losing your signal and the maps not loading. There’s a useful toggle in the application to switch between Day/Night modes. Each mode provides a better viewing experience during the day and night. Night mode also decreases the brightness of the display making it less of a distraction whilst trying to keep your eyes on the road!
Nokia Maps
The maps application isn’t much different than the preinstalled bing maps. It offers the option to view local popular places, public transport and search. If you live in Scotland and you’re about to have a weekend break in London, You’re able to tap London into the search option, and then see the nightlife, shopping centres, public attractions in the area, and on top of that you can see reviews and contact details for these places. Pretty awesome!
Nokia Music
This app is really cool! Music fans are going to love it. You can find gigs near your current location, it provide the dates of the gigs, where they’re held at and even provides directions to get to the venue! You can listen to mix radio within the app, and even download mix radio playlists for offline listening, then once you’re connected to Wifi you can refresh the playlist to bring it up to date. You can update using 3G, although it’ll be a data hog and isn’t advised unless you truly have an unlimited data plan. The app will also recommend artists that are similar to your favourites, via the mp3 store that’s built in. You can create your own music profile, which works by collecting data from your downloaded music and pc, to ultimately give you personalised genre mixes.
Apps included in the OS
Internet Explorer is one of the most brilliant mobile browsers I have used. It’s simple, very snappy, and pages load with extremely fast with minimal page rendering. Pinch to zoom is so smooth!
Corporate and business users are going to welcome the addition of Microsoft Exchange and Microsoft Office in the palm of their hand. My other half tried the Exchange and it fully synced all of the contacts, calendar meetings/appointments and emails. I personally don’t use these two applications, but many users are going to find them extremely useful.
The People Hub is amazing since the mango update; it has everything your social life craves. It keeps all your social network updates in once easy to use place. You’re able to merge several different accounts within the hub, which saves you switching between different applications. The user interface is simplistic yet smart; it updates all your feeds quickly, so there’s not much waiting.
Within the text messaging application, Facebook chat and Windows live messenger have been implemented and it works well. This again, saves you from switching between multiple apps.
Gaming
With integrated XBOX live, the Lumia 800 will suffice all your gaming needs. I did a comparison between the Lumia 800 and my Galaxy S II with the Sims 3 game, the Nokia with a single core processor clocked at 1400 Mhz and half the RAM always loaded the game much quicker. I had the same result loading Angry Birds on both devices. The graphics on the Nokia are very good, as with most Windows Phone 7 devices. If you love to game, you’ll love this phone for sure.
System updates and Battery Life
Nokia has already rolled out updates to iron out bug fixes, and bring improvements.. The latest update Nokia provided vastly improved the battery life, it now lasts more than a day easily. Also after the latest update Audio quality through the earpiece and loudspeaker are louder and clearer. I believe Nokia are planning to roll out another update in early 2012, with bug fixes and with further battery life enhancements.
Summary
Nokia has done an excellent job with Lumia 800. The handset is good looking, and the build quality is outstanding. The hardware really enhances the operating system and the whole experience of Windows Phone 7. The device has loads of potential, and I’m sure it’s going to pull more people across from Android and iOS. It’s has the wow factor and it always catches someone’s eye. Anyone considering buying this device should take the plunge, I’m sure you won’t regret it.
Thank you, I am with sprint but thinking of switching to att so I can use this phone. Love it
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This is not a review, only a summary
Wodnik Szuwarek said:
This is not a review, only a summary
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Its not finished. I've pictures and videos to add yet. Also Im going to add a section about the audio quality and an in depth section about the display.
If anyone has anything specific they want included in this, then request away.
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Boring question, but what's the case like? I too got mine from Nokia, but without it (the cases cardboard sleeve was there, but empty) so have resorted to an eBay gel effort.
Re: Case
The soft black case fits tightly to the contours of the screen, and back camera, so tight that several people thought it was the case for the phone until I slipped it off. There's a hole at the bottom for the speakers and one at the top for the usb port. The 4 holes on the button side are all slightly recessed allowing for even better button access, for those in-jacket volume changes.
Just search for CC-1031 Nokia and you should see some links for Nokia Europe Accessories page with info on these soft cover cases.
Rusty! said:
Boring question, but what's the case like? I too got mine from Nokia, but without it (the cases cardboard sleeve was there, but empty) so have resorted to an eBay gel effort.
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As what weetigo said. The case is snug. Try contacing nokia customer service and explain to them you didn't recieve one. They may send one out.
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No one in the test group I'm part of got one... maybe I'll ask on the off chance, can't see them mailing one from Helsinki though. The eBay one isn't bad, sounds very similar in fact, very snug, recessed button holes etc. Only thing I don't like is the lack of protection for the top edge, but I don't see what can be done about that due to access needs.
Edit: Googled the official one, only difference seems to be that the SIM tray is blocked by the Nokia one and the eBay one doesn't have a divider between vol+ & -
Is the Galaxy S II worth to be swapped to Lumia 800?
That's like asking us what clothes you should wear today ! Only you know what YOU like, play with the phone yourself and decide and choose what to do
Titanicology said:
Is the Galaxy S II worth to be swapped to Lumia 800?
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Personally No. I use so many apps that aren't available on WP7 yet. I do love WP7 though. Its personal taste, if the apps were there I'd happily switch between platforms.
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Warren.D said:
Personally No. I use so many apps that aren't available on WP7 yet. I do love WP7 though. Its personal taste, if the apps were there I'd happily switch between platforms.
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I just switched from Galaxy S II to Lumia 800 and yup, it's a downgrade primarily because of the apps. I miss Google Maps a lot. Having said that, Lumia 800 is a very good phone in its own right.
I just moved from a galaxy nexus to a lumia. WP7 os is enough for me and it has the apps I use.
Nice review! Thanks!
I had a LG e900 and now I also have a Lumia 800. There are 3 things that are in my opinion a step back in relation to the lower end and older LG e900:
- Sound quality – Its really bad in my opinion.
- Autonomy (Nokia has stated that an update will be issued beginning next year to address battery issues)
- Screen – AMOLED is great but the pattern of the screen makes small letters harder to read. The LG LCD is better in that respect.
There are 4 things missing from a high-end phone like this:
- HDMI output
- Front facing camera
- More RAM! N9 has 64GB! Lumia only as 16.
- Inner-ear headphones. Going back from those to the ones provided in the box is not a good experience.
Really like the phone but there is room for improvement.
You should remember that Lumia 800 is not a high-end phone. It is only a mid range phone. The high end models are yet to be unveiled.
tkay564 said:
You should remember that Lumia 800 is not a high-end phone. It is only a mid range phone. The high end models are yet to be unveiled.
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Well... there are devices on the same price range that have some of the features I mentioned. LG Optimus 2X for instance is being sold in Portugal for about 300 euro and the Lumia at best is over 400. The LG has fullhd recording capabilities, its duo core, tegra 2, and has a front facing camera. Thats what Windows Phone and Nokia are competing with.
I would not trade my Lumia for the LG mind you. But I still believe that the price range for Lumia should at the very least include some more storage and a front facing camera (after all it was one of the updates that Mango had in line to support).
Cheers
Is this the same phone as the Lumia 710 coming out for T-Mobile next month?
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qipengart said:
Is this the same phone as the Lumia 710 coming out for T-Mobile next month?
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Definitely not. The Lumia 710 is the "budget" phone of the family, whereas the Lumia 800 is the midrange.
joaocardoso said:
Well... there are devices on the same price range that have some of the features I mentioned. LG Optimus 2X for instance is being sold in Portugal for about 300 euro and the Lumia at best is over 400. The LG has fullhd recording capabilities, its duo core, tegra 2, and has a front facing camera. Thats what Windows Phone and Nokia are competing with.
I would not trade my Lumia for the LG mind you. But I still believe that the price range for Lumia should at the very least include some more storage and a front facing camera (after all it was one of the updates that Mango had in line to support).
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Optimus 2X is a year old model. When it hit the market the price was over 500 euros.
Hello my fellow nerds.
I'm sure a fair few of you also had/have this dilemma. Should i buy the Nokia Lumia 800 or the HTC Titan? I'll go through some spec comparisons and then my pro's and cons, then i'll ask you guys for you're opinions. Right.
Price (Next day delivery from Handtec - cheapest i could find)
Lumia 800 - £406
Titan - £410
WINNER - Lumia 800
Screen
Lumia 800 - 3.7" AMOLED Clear Black display 480x800 252ppi
Titan - 4.7" SLCD 480x800 199ppi
WINNER - Tie
CPU
Lumia 800 - 1.4Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
Titan - 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
WINNER - Titan
Storage
Lumia 800 - 16GB (Unsure what type)
Titan - 16GB Samsung flash memory
WINNER - Titan due to flash over sd card
Additional software
Lumia 800 - Nokia drive, Nokia music, Ovi Maps
Titan - HTC Hub, Flashlight, Internet sharing, Panoramic & burst modes in camera
WINNER - Lumia 800 for me
Camera
Lumia 800 - 8MP f2.2 28mm sensor Carl Ziess Optics Dual LED flash, No FFC
Titan - 8MP f2.2 28mm lens Backlit BSI sensor Dual LED fla, FFC 1.3MP
WINNER - Titan for lens size, backlit sensor and ffc
Sensors
Lumia 800 - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass
Titan - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass, Gyroscope.
WINNER - Titan
Battery
Lumia 800 - 1450Mah
Titan - 1600Mah
WINNER - Titan
So from that, the Titan won 5, the Lumia 800 won 2, and one was a tie. So, on specs the Titan wins it.
IMHO, i think the Lumia 800 is a great phone, but overall the Titan beats it. But i still find myself wanting the Lumia. I don't know if it's the looks, the display, or just the ability to own something crafted so beautifully, but i just want it. They are both truly great phones and both really push the OS forwards and into the limelight, so to speak.
What does everyone think? I'll post this on both the Lumia 800 and HTC Titan boards, so more people see it.
Thanks for having a little read. Let me know your opinions below please. Thankyou geek community.
wwfc said:
Hello my fellow nerds.
I'm sure a fair few of you also had/have this dilemma. Should i buy the Nokia Lumia 800 or the HTC Titan? I'll go through some spec comparisons and then my pro's and cons, then i'll ask you guys for you're opinions. Right.
Price (Next day delivery from Handtec - cheapest i could find)
Lumia 800 - £406
Titan - £410
WINNER - Lumia 800
Screen
Lumia 800 - 3.7" AMOLED Clear Black display 480x800 252ppi
Titan - 4.7" SLCD 480x800 199ppi
WINNER - Tie
CPU
Lumia 800 - 1.4Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
Titan - 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
WINNER - Titan
Storage
Lumia 800 - 16GB (Unsure what type)
Titan - 16GB Samsung flash memory
WINNER - Titan due to flash over sd card
Additional software
Lumia 800 - Nokia drive, Nokia music, Ovi Maps
Titan - HTC Hub, Flashlight, Internet sharing, Panoramic & burst modes in camera
WINNER - Lumia 800 for me
Camera
Lumia 800 - 8MP f2.2 28mm sensor Carl Ziess Optics Dual LED flash, No FFC
Titan - 8MP f2.2 28mm lens Backlit BSI sensor Dual LED fla, FFC 1.3MP
WINNER - Titan for lens size, backlit sensor and ffc
Sensors
Lumia 800 - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass
Titan - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass, Gyroscope.
WINNER - Titan
Battery
Lumia 800 - 1450Mah
Titan - 1600Mah
WINNER - Titan
So from that, the Titan won 5, the Lumia 800 won 2, and one was a tie. So, on specs the Titan wins it.
IMHO, i think the Lumia 800 is a great phone, but overall the Titan beats it. But i still find myself wanting the Lumia. I don't know if it's the looks, the display, or just the ability to own something crafted so beautifully, but i just want it. They are both truly great phones and both really push the OS forwards and into the limelight, so to speak.
What does everyone think? I'll post this on both the Lumia 800 and HTC Titan boards, so more people see it.
Thanks for having a little read. Let me know your opinions below please. Thankyou geek community.
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I would have the Nokia 800 for a try, because i have heard about the beauty of the SAMOLED+ and the Lumia 800 has a 4.3-Inch screen, which is considered as big phone.
But if you want to go for Titan , it is fine too. I have bad experiences with Nokia phones so i don;t really want to use them even i know they are good. Just a personal feeling.
But i think most people would choose the Lumia 800 over Titan, since it has the better design (Higher Eye-Candy level, not sure about Build quality) , for sure a better camera, a better screen with acceptable size.
I just love a massive screen and the 2 -piece of metal design of Titan, that is why i bought it.
The lumia 800 has a 3.7 inch pentile screen. I don't know if the screen in the lumia 900 is a + panel, but the one in the lumia 800 is not.
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Personally I think the Titan wins hands down.
I've had the Titan since November time, and love it. I was sceptical as it's such a big phone, and personally I'd go for 4.3 as the perfect screen / portability size, but less than 4.3 is too small, so the Titan was my only option for a gen 2 phone.
I can't fault it - the screen is brilliant, the build quality is top notch, the performance is faultless. I've played around with the Lumia in stores, and it's a nice phone, but the screen's too small, plain and simple, and without a FFC I just don't see why anyone would buy a gen 1 phone when there are several gen 2 readily available.
For me very is fault on Nokia its construction. On many forums is discussed the creaking housing after a few months of use... On Lumia 800 or N9 with the same construction...
And little display size of course, Titan´s bigger display is fantastic
Lumia 800 has a non-user-replaceable battery,and that's a big -
rob_p said:
Personally I think the Titan wins hands down.
I've had the Titan since November time, and love it. I was sceptical as it's such a big phone, and personally I'd go for 4.3 as the perfect screen / portability size, but less than 4.3 is too small, so the Titan was my only option for a gen 2 phone.
I can't fault it - the screen is brilliant, the build quality is top notch, the performance is faultless. I've played around with the Lumia in stores, and it's a nice phone, but the screen's too small, plain and simple, and without a FFC I just don't see why anyone would buy a gen 1 phone when there are several gen 2 readily available.
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Totally agree. I can't speak to the build quality of the 800 having never seen it, and while I KNOW it's superior to the Titan, that is REALLY hard for me to imagine, because the Titan is solid and beautiful to me!
Well, the Titan has just dropped to £383.99 ($592.07) on Handtec.co.uk. If it was Amazon, clove or expansys i would by now, but I've heard really mixed reviews of Handtec. Some people say its fine, but lots of people say they sent the wrong item or it was damaged or came weeks, sometimes even months late, even after paying for next day delivery. Has anyone here brought their Titan or any other phone on Handtec.co.uk? Cheers.
I own both phones, and have run then each for a month.
I came to the end of my Lumia month a few days ago, and I was grateful to get my hands back on the Titan.
The Lumia is a beautiful phone, sure. And it feels great in the hand. The USB port is just wrong, with its little flap and positioned on the top as it is. Audio on the Lumia is dreadful - there is no bottom end at all, either thru the speaker or headphones. Its all mid-hi range with no depth to any music.
And although the deep-black pentile screen on the Lumia looks good at a first glance, the reality is that you will notice the pixelation too often, and compared to the Titan there is a noticeable yellow haze across the screen. Whites are horrible in comparison. Sure, the dpi is less on the Titan, but there is no practical drawback in daily usage, and due to the pentile grid on the Lumia, the Titan actually feels better quality.
The camera on the Titan is also much better, with a ton more options than the Lumia. Lumia is OK for a cameraphone, the Titan surprises with its capability.
One area the Lumia has the edge is its power button - I like it on the side. The Titan is a BIG reach for the power button on top, and it is so flush that sometimes its fiddly to actually press it. Not cool. Why oh why can't all WP makers have the windows button wake up the phone, as LG have done on the Optimus?!
Nokia has tried to bring value with its Drive/Music/Maps apps...but can't say I miss them. gMaps pro does it all, and POIs on google seem to be better and more current. If Nokia shared with Bing maps, it would be a powerful rival, I guess...
Nokia Drive is kind of cool, but really, you can't add/edit POIs, you still need a data connection for routing...if this is your reason for buying the Lumia, go with the Titan and buy Turn-by-Turn instead.
Nokia Music is so-so, nothing that MarketPlace doesn't offer except the gig guide and Mix Radio. Gigs can be searched and Mix Radio...well Spotify anyone? Or even SmartDJ and ZunePass. I guess the advantage of Mix Radio is that it's free but its not a deal breaker for me.
I am still waiting for 8107 updates on both devices, so the jury is out on which has better update support at the moment.
I certainly get more comments on the Lumia's beauty as a design, but people are more overwhelmed with the sheer gargantuan impressiveness of the Titan. I then invite people to try it in the pocket and the reaction is always the same..."wow its like its not even there"...the Titan is so slim, its size is irrelevant.
The Titan battery is far superior to the Lumia. Yeah I am still waiting on "battery fix" from Nokia, but the Titan has it for me, no sweat. I can easily manage a whole day with my usage pattern, whereas the Lumia I need a charger by mid-afternoon. I went away for a weekend and didn't use the phone, but it lasted from 4pm Friday to 7pm Sunday with 20% remaining for calls/txts on the way home. That is what a phone should do!
So yeah, my Mum gets the Lumia, I will keep the Titan
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I own both phones, and have run then each for a month.
I came to the end of my Lumia month a few days ago, and I was grateful to get my hands back on the Titan.
The Lumia is a beautiful phone, sure. And it feels great in the hand. The USB port is just wrong, with its little flap and positioned on the top as it is. Audio on the Lumia is dreadful - there is no bottom end at all, either thru the speaker or headphones. Its all mid-hi range with no depth to any music.
And although the deep-black pentile screen on the Lumia looks good at a first glance, the reality is that you will notice the pixelation too often, and compared to the Titan there is a noticeable yellow haze across the screen. Whites are horrible in comparison. Sure, the dpi is less on the Titan, but there is no practical drawback in daily usage, and due to the pentile grid on the Lumia, the Titan actually feels better quality.
The camera on the Titan is also much better, with a ton more options than the Lumia. Lumia is OK for a cameraphone, the Titan surprises with its capability.
One area the Lumia has the edge is its power button - I like it on the side. The Titan is a BIG reach for the power button on top, and it is so flush that sometimes its fiddly to actually press it. Not cool. Why oh why can't all WP makers have the windows button wake up the phone, as LG have done on the Optimus?!
Nokia has tried to bring value with its Drive/Music/Maps apps...but can't say I miss them. gMaps pro does it all, and POIs on google seem to be better and more current. If Nokia shared with Bing maps, it would be a powerful rival, I guess...
Nokia Drive is kind of cool, but really, you can't add/edit POIs, you still need a data connection for routing...if this is your reason for buying the Lumia, go with the Titan and buy Turn-by-Turn instead.
Nokia Music is so-so, nothing that MarketPlace doesn't offer except the gig guide and Mix Radio. Gigs can be searched and Mix Radio...well Spotify anyone? Or even SmartDJ and ZunePass. I guess the advantage of Mix Radio is that it's free but its not a deal breaker for me.
I am still waiting for 8107 updates on both devices, so the jury is out on which has better update support at the moment.
I certainly get more comments on the Lumia's beauty as a design, but people are more overwhelmed with the sheer gargantuan impressiveness of the Titan. I then invite people to try it in the pocket and the reaction is always the same..."wow its like its not even there"...the Titan is so slim, its size is irrelevant.
The Titan battery is far superior to the Lumia. Yeah I am still waiting on "battery fix" from Nokia, but the Titan has it for me, no sweat. I can easily manage a whole day with my usage pattern, whereas the Lumia I need a charger by mid-afternoon. I went away for a weekend and didn't use the phone, but it lasted from 4pm Friday to 7pm Sunday with 20% remaining for calls/txts on the way home. That is what a phone should do!
So yeah, my Mum gets the Lumia, I will keep the Titan
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Thanks very much for the comprehensive review of both devices. I just went for it and ordered the Titan for £412 from Handtec Hopefully be here tomorrow (Friday) Going to have to download the BA app and use the phone as a boarding pass for my flight to Orlando in a couple of weeks Thanks again. I look forward to being a part of the Titan boards here on XDA.
wwfc said:
Thanks very much for the comprehensive review of both devices. I just went for it and ordered the Titan for £412 from Handtec Hopefully be here tomorrow (Friday) Going to have to download the BA app and use the phone as a boarding pass for my flight to Orlando in a couple of weeks Thanks again. I look forward to being a part of the Titan boards here on XDA.
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hope they send you the right phone. I ordered the titan car kit from handtec a few weeks ago. They sent me the docking cradle and were rubbish trying to sort it out. I ended up cancelling the order but at least they didn't want the cradle back after first insisting I return it at my expense!
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hope they send you the right phone. I ordered the titan car kit from handtec a few weeks ago. They sent me the docking cradle and were rubbish trying to sort it out. I ended up cancelling the order but at least they didn't want the cradle back after first insisting I return it at my expense!
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Oh god you've made me nervous now if it's not here by 12pm tomorrow (Which i paid extra on delivery for) then i will not be happy in the slightest. Taking the day off work for the damn thing to arrive.
twisticles said:
I own both phones, and have run then each for a month...
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Thanks a lot. Very useful post!
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Good choice mate. Moving over from android to titan and liking it so far but missing the apps. Still got the sensation XL just in case.
Did it arrive!?
It did! And its f***ing awesome. I love it so far. Camera is great, screen is beautiful, no lag at all (which I had quite a bit of on the omnia 7), very good battery life so far. Its on charge atm so using my galaxy nexus and I have to admit the nexus' screen is far superior, but that's the only thing about it that is. It took ages to download my emails, check my twitter/Facebook/forums and send a few texts. Thanks for everyone's opinions !
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I've come up with a list of differences between the two devices, could you comment on how significant each of the items in the list are and possibly add to the list.
Nokia Lumia 920:
Super sensitive screen for glove typing
Pure Motion HD+ screen
Less glare and reflection on screen (is that true?)
Deeper blacks (is that true?)
Oleophobic layer on screen (how effective is it?)
2000 mAh battery (how do the battery lives compare?)
Gyroscope
Dolby audio support (is it just a gimmick?)
Nokia apps (how significant of an advantage do they have?)
HTC Windows Phone 8X:
Beats audio (how much better is the audio?)
342ppi screen (how much better does it look?)
Reportedly more comfortable design (is it really?)
Which phone's camera is faster to start up and take the first shot and then consecutive shots?
Which phone is more comfortable to type with one hand?
I'd really really appreciate it if someone could answer my questions. Thanks.
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Nokia apps are awesome. Especially Maps/navigation, huge improvement.
The 920 Screen is amazing. Extremely usable in bright sun, the HTC Screen is close to useless in sun light. Personally I find the 920 screen the best I have seen on a mobile device but I am a more of a "vivid/bright/accurate blacks/good in sunlight" guy than "This phone represents the true colors of the world". I can't stand HTC screens.
The 920 is heavier, but feels like a better built phone holding them both in hand.
Ok, i have both of these handsets. I have a black HTC 8x and a white lumia 920.
All i can say is i wont be back on the htc 8x anytime soon, in fact ever. The lumia 920 is just one absolutely incredible phone, the software Nokia has preinstalled such as Nokia maps and music are absolutely fantastic.
The only thing some people might dislike is the weight, which personally i love! The iphone 5 feels like a toy in comparison.
In a nutshell best phone I've ever owned, and I've owned some of the best!
Thanks for your replies. Could you address the questions I left at the end and then maybe if you have time comment on how significant each of the features I listed are.
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Both are great phones. You really have hold them both at store to get your own preferences. The real difference is the storage space. 920 comes with 32 GB Iirc while HTC comes with only 8GB for the same price. You have pay way more on HTC for additional storage.
On the software side, Nokia owns its own mapping company. So you get free Navigation software called Nokia Drive. On HTC, it probably will bundle its licensed navigation software that you get to use for free for 30 days then you have to pay like its WP7 phones.
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The only thing some people might dislike is the weight, which personally i love! The iphone 5 feels like a toy in comparison.
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I also like the weight of the phone. Might be cognitive dissonance, but it feels a lot better to have a slightly more weight in the hand when using a slightly bigger phone. The device is resting in the hand, more than for example a Galaxy SIII.
Agree completely. I can see how the weight will bother some people but I like it. Feels solid and sturdy.
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Thanks again for all the replies. Could someone comment on the items in the list I've posted.
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Just got an 8X free on top of my Lumia 920 and quite frankly, it's a pretty epic paperweight. I'm exaggerating, it's awesome for an HTC device but it's just not as good. The screen is completely overshadowed by the Lumia's CBD, the Lumia is much louder on the external speakers and via headphones the 8X has a bit of an echo... On Sennheiser headphones that simply shouldn't happen but I guess it's intended for low quality garbage like Beats. The 8X also feels pretty thin and flimsy and if you press hard on the back of the phone you can actually use the touch screen... It's concerning. Overall, my only complaint with the Lumia is the tinny rattle of the vibration motor.
Nokia let other manufacturers use their software like maps so that's on the 8x too.
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Nokia let other manufacturers use their software like maps so that's on the 8x too.
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Maps, true. I think MS licensed the maps from Nokia.
But what about turn by turn navigation? Some thing similar to Google Nav.
Yep Nokia is making an app for all partners including HTC so that will be out soon I imagine.
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8x has a 170degree front facing camera.
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Sooooo would anyone like to address whether the differences listed have any significance or not.
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Sooooo would anyone like to address whether the differences listed have any significance or not.
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Read the reviews and make the dicisions yourself. What you listed mostly are marketing bluffs. Nothing important.
Many are of minimal importance, but I would disagree that their aren't some important differences. That is the whole reason I left the store with the 920 after trying them out for a bit.
Primarily with the Nokia you get 32gb for $99, The screen is distinctly better (my opinion, 5-8x better in sun), and I personally think the Nokia felt like a much more quality and well made phone.
Rogers is offering a 8GB version of the 8X for $50 less. I might go for that since I don't really use the space on phones and stuff anyway and the Nokia apps don't seem very useful. I'll go into a store and see though if the audio on the 8X is much better, and if the 920 is as heavy as people say, etc.
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Rogers is offering a 8GB version of the 8X for $50 less. I might go for that since I don't really use the space on phones and stuff anyway and the Nokia apps don't seem very useful. I'll go into a store and see though if the audio on the 8X is much better, and if the 920 is as heavy as people say, etc.
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So you'd take a 4x hit on memory for $50? I wouldn't especially since, like you listed in your original post:
- Better screen technology (after 320 or so PPI, you really can't make out much of a difference - 342 is negligible difference)
- Better build quality
- SIGNIFICANTLY better rear facing camera + technology (surprised no one really emphasized that yet in this thread).
But I guess it's up to you...
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I've come up with a list of differences between the two devices, could you comment on how significant each of the items in the list are and possibly add to the list.
Nokia Lumia 920:
Super sensitive screen for glove typing
Pure Motion HD+ screen
Less glare and reflection on screen (is that true?)
Deeper blacks (is that true?)
Oleophobic layer on screen (how effective is it?)
2000 mAh battery (how do the battery lives compare?)
Gyroscope
Dolby audio support (is it just a gimmick?)
Nokia apps (how significant of an advantage do they have?)
HTC Windows Phone 8X:
Beats audio (how much better is the audio?)
342ppi screen (how much better does it look?)
Reportedly more comfortable design (is it really?)
Which phone's camera is faster to start up and take the first shot and then consecutive shots?
Which phone is more comfortable to type with one hand?
I'd really really appreciate it if someone could answer my questions. Thanks.
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http://www.wpcentral.com/htc-8x-vs-nokia-lumia-920-signature-vs-flagship
Good review between them.
Lumia 920 sound quality through headphones is very good. There is no background noise like on my Cowson J3. I noticed plenty of noise on the older Lumia 900. It's excellent when you output it through an AUX cable.
It's pretty clear that the Galaxy Alpha is not being positioned "above" the Galaxy S 5...it's just different. It's smaller, much thinner, but has a lower resolution display (720p vs 1080p) and a smaller battery (1860mAh vs 2800mAh).
So who is this phone for? Would you consider it over the Galaxy S 5, or even the Nexus 5/HTC One M8 for that matter?
Sound off! :victory:
Nope although I love that form factor it lacks some of essential features such as full HD and SD card support.
Also I think the price tag is way too high for the mentioned features.
The mentioned one's aren't alternatives I'll be waiting for the g3 with the snap Dragon 805 maybe they are going to release a smaller one too
The phone is for iPhone users coming over from Apple and direct compression for the z1 compact.
I personally think this is the best looking Samsung phone ever and I want it baaaaadddddd, I know the 720p screen and tiny battery are major drawbacks for most people but I can deal with it, I am by no means a power user. I just think its a great looking powerful phone that's perfect for me I just really hope it has some sort of development here
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I personally think this is the best looking Samsung phone ever and I want it baaaaadddddd, I know the 720p screen and tiny battery are major drawbacks for most people but I can deal with it, I am by no means a power user. I just think its a great looking powerful phone that's perfect for me I just really hope it has some sort of development here
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"B***h, please", you tell those "most people". I challenge your eyes to see single pixels with pixel density above 300 ppi. Also, the less pixels to push around = the GPU has it easier = it's easier on the battery... and battery is STILL bigger than any iPhone battery to date. And with the coming of L, battery life is expected to rise even more.
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"B***h, please", you tell those "most people". I challenge your eyes to see single pixels with pixel density above 300 ppi. Also, the less pixels to push around = the GPU has it easier = it's easier on the battery... and battery is STILL bigger than any iPhone battery to date. And with the coming of L, battery life is expected to rise even more.
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Considering this is using the Exynos 5430 using 20nm, it should have have battery life between the 801 and 805 if it was 1080p/1440p. if it's only 720p This device will last more than a day easily.
For that reason alone I'll be picking it up. and the fact I hate QHD on phones.
I would get one only if i dont have to throw a extra penny on xchange wid my 1month old nexus 5...
Comparing it to nexus 5
Pros
Slimmer
Metallic body
Better camera
Touchwiz ui (lol pro??)
Better gpu (yes its btr than a330)
Better battery (newer 20nm )
Cons
Touchwiz
Not full hd (i don't give a **** as i find display of 720p grand 2 to be same as that of my n5 wid naked eyes)
Expect late updates and poorer custom rom support.
I would make the sacrifice wid my n5 only if L doesnt makes it a overkill
Considering @svetius ' interest in alpha i guess he would get one tooo...
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So who is this phone for? Would you consider it over the Galaxy S 5, or even the Nexus 5/HTC One M8 for that matter?
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Ummm... me. I'm trim and of average height, not tall or big-boned, etc. I don't have huge hands. I wear 501s much of the time. The S5, G3 and One M8 are a bit too large for my pocket and for one-handed use. A phone is like a sidearm; while the zealots always want bigger and more powerful, if it's inconvenient to carry or use, and so you don't, it's no good even compared to an old flip phone.
But... the Alpha lacks a microSD slot, so it actually fails my requirements. Don't tell me you're selling me a Porsche - small, powerful, expensive - and then cut out the top gear. Charge me another $100 and put in the top gear, and call it a Porsche Xtreme or something silly like that.
As per a report it costs $689 dollars...
Plz throw it in the dustbin ...i am happy wid my sexy nexy...:silly:
I'm interested in getting it. The lack of a microSD card slot (and the price, too, I guess) is a bit of a bummer but who knows...
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Considering this is using the Exynos 5430 using 20nm, it should have have battery life between the 801 and 805 if it was 1080p/1440p. if it's only 720p This device will last more than a day easily.
For that reason alone I'll be picking it up. and the fact I hate QHD on phones.
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People say that QHD displays are just a gimmick but my g3 is hella crisp and as for battery life its fantastic, easily last all day.
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People say that QHD displays are just a gimmick but my g3 is hella crisp and as for battery life its fantastic, easily last all day.
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No SD card support..... I'd rather get the G3.
I will get one, if the battery is good enough.
Alpha is almost there
Wotta said:
Ummm... me. I'm trim and of average height, not tall or big-boned, etc. I don't have huge hands. I wear 501s much of the time. The S5, G3 and One M8 are a bit too large for my pocket and for one-handed use. A phone is like a sidearm; while the zealots always want bigger and more powerful, if it's inconvenient to carry or use, and so you don't, it's no good even compared to an old flip phone.
But... the Alpha lacks a microSD slot, so it actually fails my requirements. Don't tell me you're selling me a Porsche - small, powerful, expensive - and then cut out the top gear. Charge me another $100 and put in the top gear, and call it a Porsche Xtreme or something silly like that.
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Yes. I am in a similar situation -I am what you would call a Power User and need the Phone and nice
Camera for Business but am athletic, active and need the smaller form factor.
I want an Alpha Pro which is thicker with a larger Battery and Larger Camera Sensor like Note 4 ,SD Card for $ 100 more.
Alpha is a fashionable Device.
Alpha Pro would be for Note 4 types who don't want a huge phone.
The "Thinness Race" is surprising to me - I would MUCH prefer a thicker phone with SD Card and larger Battery and less breakable.
This size about 5.2" Tall with 4.7"
screen is perfect for me- and this Camera will be very good for Interior Designers , Real Estate Pros, Artists etc. not replacing a DSLR, but very useful.
Larger screens to me are impractical to carry and more likely to break, but I love the power of a Laptop in my pocket.
The Alpha is close.
The Sony Z3 Compact is close.
I prefer a removable Battery.
If Devs can create an APP that allows direct Storage to USB Stick ,
I could live without SD Card.
Two to Five Millimeters thicker and the Alpha Pro could be the Flagship Compact.
Remember you put a Rigid Case on a 5.6" Tall S5 and it's large and still fragile.
Put a rigid case on the Alpha and it's still pocket sized and less likely to break .
I don't know why it needs to be only 6.7 mm thick and 4 ounces-lol.
Give me the thicker Alpha Pro- a Device I am making up in the hopes it happens....
720p on 4.7" is decent. Even iPhone 6 doesn't have 1080p on their 4.7".
Hmmm I'm divided! I just had the S5 mini for a few days, and the screen on that one is bad. I meen the 720p resolution just doesn't cut it! Even thou the screen is small. It's just as bad as the S4 Mini. You can't read small fonts or read Web pages without zooming.
Soooo....... Does the Alpha has the same problem? I would guess. Even bigger screen with the same resolution. I hope I'm wrong and that Samsung just used a sub par display in the S5 mini. But I'm sceptical of course.
Also not sure if I want to live without the brilliance of a IR blaster in my phone. I use it everyday.
And then finally there is the potential issue about the battery size. Maybe it will be fine, if Sammy has optimized the Alphas HW correct.
So bottom line, I really want to get one, but I'm not to sure! LOOOOOOVE the esthetics!
Should be getting mine this coming Saturday, but stuck deciding what colour to go for...
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robertkoa said:
Yes. I am in a similar situation -I am what you would call a Power User and need the Phone and nice
Camera for Business but am athletic, active and need the smaller form factor.
I want an Alpha Pro which is thicker with a larger Battery and Larger Camera Sensor like Note 4 ,SD Card for $ 100 more.
Alpha is a fashionable Device.
Alpha Pro would be for Note 4 types who don't want a huge phone.
The "Thinness Race" is surprising to me - I would MUCH prefer a thicker phone with SD Card and larger Battery and less breakable.
This size about 5.2" Tall with 4.7"
screen is perfect for me- and this Camera will be very good for Interior Designers , Real Estate Pros, Artists etc. not replacing a DSLR, but very useful.
Larger screens to me are impractical to carry and more likely to break, but I love the power of a Laptop in my pocket.
The Alpha is close.
The Sony Z3 Compact is close.
I prefer a removable Battery.
If Devs can create an APP that allows direct Storage to USB Stick ,
I could live without SD Card.
Two to Five Millimeters thicker and the Alpha Pro could be the Flagship Compact.
Remember you put a Rigid Case on a 5.6" Tall S5 and it's large and still fragile.
Put a rigid case on the Alpha and it's still pocket sized and less likely to break .
I don't know why it needs to be only 6.7 mm thick and 4 ounces-lol.
Give me the thicker Alpha Pro- a Device I am making up in the hopes it happens....
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I get what your saying I thought about it too, but something draws me to this device it just looks good and I think its a combination of the thinness and metal frame, anything thicker here I think would detract from its appeal. As long as I can get from 5am to 11pm with some juice left if I need it im happy
No but I would have if a) I was an at&t customer rather than t-mobile customer (for an on-contract deal) or b) it wasn't $192 more to import than the Xperia Z3 Compact. Who knows, if their resale values converge, I may end up having a green Alpha.
I like the style of the phone and hope Samsung uses this as the inspiration for all of their android devices over the next 6 months. I hope the phone sells well as the future of powerful sub 5" androids depends on this and the Z3C succeeding. I really look forward to seeing a January 2015 Tab Alpha 8.4 with the corners like this (and a snapdragon 810 or intel Broadwell). Similarly, I hope the Alpha sets the stage for a different direction for Samsung's phones (Android 5.0 should be more power efficient in a way that makes smaller batteries more viable).
The Alpha is coming to AT&T this Friday
The Alpha is coming to AT&T this Friday ,
And I'm getting one. I'm looking forward to the form factor, but I especially like, that it is not as huge as most phones out there and still has decent specs. I really wish I could have it all. Until then, I'm looking to have a new toy.
In my eyes, The Galaxy Alpha is Samsung’s most beautiful phone ever. Much more beautiful than the galaxy s5, but the size of its 1,860mAh battery worries me. In conclusion, I will choose the HTC M8 as my next flagship phone.
I sold my S5 for the Alpha a couple of days ago and don't regret it at all! It's a small and very powerful phone and probably one of Samsung's better in many years IMO ☺
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Hi Everyone,
I thought I'd share some thoughts on this device after having purchased it yesterday afternoon.
I bought this phone because I felt it was the first device that gave me what I had been craving for a long time - an Android version of the iPhone 6s. I like the size, build and feel of the iPhone 6s/7, but not the software or the price.
I think I am in the minority of people who prefer a smaller handset, and even though Android devices tend to fit a lot more screen real estate into smaller bodies, I still feel that the 4.7in screen size is ideal for me.
The only phones that run Android of that size have been the Xperia compact line, and the Galaxy Alpha/A3 2016 models. There have been others, but only these have come close. Unfortunately, they have suffered compromised designs and specs that have left me wanting (I have owned them all, and this is my opinion which others are free to disagree with).
This new handset, however, has me ticking a lot of boxes.
- Size is fantastic. Just a little smaller than the iPhone 6s, and feels great in the hand. Premium materials, solid build quality, great ergonomics, clicky buttons, no camera hump.
- The display is good, not awesome, but vibrant and colourful without being too over the top. Can be tweaked to each user's preference, and gets both very bright and very dim.
- fingerprint scanner is fast and accurate.
- Camera is good, not amazing. An iPhone definitely trounces this setup, but I paid £280 sim free and my usage is not too demanding so it's absolutely fine for me. Daytime shots are actually very pleasant and I think here it punches above its weight; low light is where it struggles, but I feel that most shots at night are not too important for me so it's a compromise I'll happily make.
- Call quality is very good and it holds onto signal well in my area.
- Sound quality out of the side mounted speaker is actually surprisingly good, at least as good as an iPhone 6s. Headphone performance is also excellent .
- Performance has been nothing short of excellent. I feel we have reached a point where there are not that many tasks that we do that actually need a Snapdragon 821 to run smoothly - granted, some 3d games need serious power on tap to run at their highest settings on a quad HD screen, but with a 720p screen, the A3 2017 runs pretty much anything at best quality without delay or hiccup. And everyday operation is smooth as butter without any lag or slowdowns. Granted, this is very early days, but I am hopeful this will continue.
- Battery life is astounding. I charged it on Saturday night and hit 100% at 10.20pm. I took it off charger and only put it back on at 2% while writing this review and I had nearly 9 hrs and 30mins of screen on time over 1 day and 3 hours. That includes 64 mins of voice calls. Please note that I was home all day on Wifi, but still, I have never seen times like that, not least from a 2300 odd mah battery. Awesome. It also charges pretty fast.
- Other stuff - water proofing is great, finally have USB-C, charges really quickly with the included adaptive charging brick, finally has a blue light filter.
And now for the balance of the review:
- Slippery despite its size, so a case or a skin is advisable.
- 16gb of internal memory nearly broke the deal for me, but a 64gb card and some transferring of apps has left me with 3.8gb left to play with internally. Definitely not ideal and a very cheap move from Samsung, but I'm also hoping Nougat brings adoptable storage soon which will eliminate this as an issue (here's hoping!).
- No notification light is something I have to adjust to, but the always on display does help *somewhat* ( I prefer the light as it's something that alerts me from afar, whereas the display is on regardless of whether you have a notification or not).
- Camera as described above has some shortcomings.
- Usual Samsung software compromised with bloatware - lots of useless stuff on here that eats into that 16gb that I cannot delete (Microsoft suite, Samsung junk, usual duplicate apps that we all use the Google version of). I'll keep trying the usual routes to rid the phone of this but I may have to wait a while.
Other than these points, I am really pleased. It feels nice to have paid relatively little for a device that feels so premium. I know there are other phones at relatively low prices that kill this on specs (OP3, Axon 7, Honor 8, etc) but they are generally much bigger handsets, so for anyone looking at something smaller, this is a great buy.
TL;DR, it's great, buy one if you like small phones ?
I always wanted a phone with an small amoled screen and water proofing so i jumped ship from the huge mate 8 to witch i am comparing. I agree with your pros but i found: 1-the camera is average and lacking OIS (need very stable hands), 2- cannot use sd card as default storage (very handy on mate 8), 3- phone very slippery, 4- Design and Screen of a3 2016 seemed better (personal opinion), 5- no stutter but little slow (comparing to mate 8). Only lacks IR blaster to check all boxes but we can't have everything.
Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
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Thanks for sharing this. I am also very happy with this phone so far. It's my second day with it, the battery is at 39% with 4h45 sot and 1d3h total since unplugged. In a night of 9 hours, the phone just lost 3%.
I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Mm, nothing special yet, as I'm really happy with battery life so far.
What I did in the past with other devices is for example use the app greenify (needs root) to hibernate apps you don't want to run in the background.
Also, something that really helped me with my old s4 mini was to set mobile network to 2g, and only switch to lte once required.
And as always, use wifi instead of mobile network as often as possible, disable Bluetooth if not needed, etc.
£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
iMaterial said:
£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
Sunil_Kaura said:
Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
Compare, with €150 phones, battery, res, SoC, well anything really part from 10 mm in size.
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
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Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
Sunil_Kaura said:
Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
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The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
iMaterial said:
4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
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I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
Sunil_Kaura said:
I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
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The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
iMaterial said:
The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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There are so many on this forum and in other places that airs the same frustration, so few options for a mobile ca 130mm lenght and 4.5 - 4.7" screen (720p at least), that I'm starting to wonder if we should do something about it, maybe talk to so manufacturer to make at least 1-2 phones under 5"
The Redmi 4 Pro I used for a few weeks felt no worse in build than the Iphone 6 or 6S I have tried a few times, both in metal around 140 - 145mm size. But for €310 I can get a Xiaomi Mi 5 with 820 and have €100 in change over. I have never held a Moto G, last Motorola I have tried was the 4.3" Razr Maxx and it felt solid as a rock.
The J5 goes for around €180-190 here and I see no reason why this smaller, entry level A3 shouldn't be priced in a similar fashion. These days due to deaths in the family and such I'm so poor that €100 is more than I can spare and my Android mobile that I have now is from 2012 or so, single core with 512 MB RAM and I hate every minute when I'm using it. I'm lucky to have been given a 2009 Sony Ericsson C901 as my main caller.
Just my 1¢ (It used to be 2¢, but due to the recession I've had to make cutbacks)
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What annoys me a lot is also that this A3 is bigger than the A3 (2016) and the battery is only 50 mAh bigger. They could easily have put a 2500 - 2800 mAh battery in this one, just like the Sony Z3, Z5 or X compact, which is 5 mm smaller.
My last perfect phone was the original moto x. I still use it. I am not a power user but the X just needs lil more power but on cm13 it's not bad.
I don't even mind going with old phone as long as has some custom roms to improve performance.
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