I've come up with a list of differences between the two devices, could you comment on how significant each of the items in the list are and possibly add to the list.
Nokia Lumia 920:
Super sensitive screen for glove typing
Pure Motion HD+ screen
Less glare and reflection on screen (is that true?)
Deeper blacks (is that true?)
Oleophobic layer on screen (how effective is it?)
2000 mAh battery (how do the battery lives compare?)
Gyroscope
Dolby audio support (is it just a gimmick?)
Nokia apps (how significant of an advantage do they have?)
HTC Windows Phone 8X:
Beats audio (how much better is the audio?)
342ppi screen (how much better does it look?)
Reportedly more comfortable design (is it really?)
Which phone's camera is faster to start up and take the first shot and then consecutive shots?
Which phone is more comfortable to type with one hand?
I'd really really appreciate it if someone could answer my questions. Thanks.
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Nokia apps are awesome. Especially Maps/navigation, huge improvement.
The 920 Screen is amazing. Extremely usable in bright sun, the HTC Screen is close to useless in sun light. Personally I find the 920 screen the best I have seen on a mobile device but I am a more of a "vivid/bright/accurate blacks/good in sunlight" guy than "This phone represents the true colors of the world". I can't stand HTC screens.
The 920 is heavier, but feels like a better built phone holding them both in hand.
Ok, i have both of these handsets. I have a black HTC 8x and a white lumia 920.
All i can say is i wont be back on the htc 8x anytime soon, in fact ever. The lumia 920 is just one absolutely incredible phone, the software Nokia has preinstalled such as Nokia maps and music are absolutely fantastic.
The only thing some people might dislike is the weight, which personally i love! The iphone 5 feels like a toy in comparison.
In a nutshell best phone I've ever owned, and I've owned some of the best!
Thanks for your replies. Could you address the questions I left at the end and then maybe if you have time comment on how significant each of the features I listed are.
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Both are great phones. You really have hold them both at store to get your own preferences. The real difference is the storage space. 920 comes with 32 GB Iirc while HTC comes with only 8GB for the same price. You have pay way more on HTC for additional storage.
On the software side, Nokia owns its own mapping company. So you get free Navigation software called Nokia Drive. On HTC, it probably will bundle its licensed navigation software that you get to use for free for 30 days then you have to pay like its WP7 phones.
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The only thing some people might dislike is the weight, which personally i love! The iphone 5 feels like a toy in comparison.
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I also like the weight of the phone. Might be cognitive dissonance, but it feels a lot better to have a slightly more weight in the hand when using a slightly bigger phone. The device is resting in the hand, more than for example a Galaxy SIII.
Agree completely. I can see how the weight will bother some people but I like it. Feels solid and sturdy.
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Thanks again for all the replies. Could someone comment on the items in the list I've posted.
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Just got an 8X free on top of my Lumia 920 and quite frankly, it's a pretty epic paperweight. I'm exaggerating, it's awesome for an HTC device but it's just not as good. The screen is completely overshadowed by the Lumia's CBD, the Lumia is much louder on the external speakers and via headphones the 8X has a bit of an echo... On Sennheiser headphones that simply shouldn't happen but I guess it's intended for low quality garbage like Beats. The 8X also feels pretty thin and flimsy and if you press hard on the back of the phone you can actually use the touch screen... It's concerning. Overall, my only complaint with the Lumia is the tinny rattle of the vibration motor.
Nokia let other manufacturers use their software like maps so that's on the 8x too.
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Nokia let other manufacturers use their software like maps so that's on the 8x too.
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Maps, true. I think MS licensed the maps from Nokia.
But what about turn by turn navigation? Some thing similar to Google Nav.
Yep Nokia is making an app for all partners including HTC so that will be out soon I imagine.
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8x has a 170degree front facing camera.
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Sooooo would anyone like to address whether the differences listed have any significance or not.
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Sooooo would anyone like to address whether the differences listed have any significance or not.
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Read the reviews and make the dicisions yourself. What you listed mostly are marketing bluffs. Nothing important.
Many are of minimal importance, but I would disagree that their aren't some important differences. That is the whole reason I left the store with the 920 after trying them out for a bit.
Primarily with the Nokia you get 32gb for $99, The screen is distinctly better (my opinion, 5-8x better in sun), and I personally think the Nokia felt like a much more quality and well made phone.
Rogers is offering a 8GB version of the 8X for $50 less. I might go for that since I don't really use the space on phones and stuff anyway and the Nokia apps don't seem very useful. I'll go into a store and see though if the audio on the 8X is much better, and if the 920 is as heavy as people say, etc.
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Rogers is offering a 8GB version of the 8X for $50 less. I might go for that since I don't really use the space on phones and stuff anyway and the Nokia apps don't seem very useful. I'll go into a store and see though if the audio on the 8X is much better, and if the 920 is as heavy as people say, etc.
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So you'd take a 4x hit on memory for $50? I wouldn't especially since, like you listed in your original post:
- Better screen technology (after 320 or so PPI, you really can't make out much of a difference - 342 is negligible difference)
- Better build quality
- SIGNIFICANTLY better rear facing camera + technology (surprised no one really emphasized that yet in this thread).
But I guess it's up to you...
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I've come up with a list of differences between the two devices, could you comment on how significant each of the items in the list are and possibly add to the list.
Nokia Lumia 920:
Super sensitive screen for glove typing
Pure Motion HD+ screen
Less glare and reflection on screen (is that true?)
Deeper blacks (is that true?)
Oleophobic layer on screen (how effective is it?)
2000 mAh battery (how do the battery lives compare?)
Gyroscope
Dolby audio support (is it just a gimmick?)
Nokia apps (how significant of an advantage do they have?)
HTC Windows Phone 8X:
Beats audio (how much better is the audio?)
342ppi screen (how much better does it look?)
Reportedly more comfortable design (is it really?)
Which phone's camera is faster to start up and take the first shot and then consecutive shots?
Which phone is more comfortable to type with one hand?
I'd really really appreciate it if someone could answer my questions. Thanks.
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http://www.wpcentral.com/htc-8x-vs-nokia-lumia-920-signature-vs-flagship
Good review between them.
Lumia 920 sound quality through headphones is very good. There is no background noise like on my Cowson J3. I noticed plenty of noise on the older Lumia 900. It's excellent when you output it through an AUX cable.
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Many of the reviews of the titan refer to jaggies on text and visible pixels. I can't see anything like this, everytning is perfectly crisp and clear to me. Has anyone else seen these artefacts or are they a fantasy dreamt up by the reviewers, or maybe my eyes are even more screwed than I thought!!
Yes, you should go see a doctor now.
Nope havent noticed either.
It has a higher ppi than the iphone 3gs. Whoever says they think the screen is jaggy, or whatever, is deliberately nitpicking, IMO!
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Looks fine to me. No jaggies. I have this phone on trial and it's better than I thought. Quality of build is great and the phone doesn't feel too big. Nice job HTC.
Agree with everyone here after a month of using the phone
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After ordering one on Saturday I went to AT&T to check out the screen. The screen is nice and big, but it's not as clear as the iPhone 4. It's most apparent when looking at webpages, I can read the smallest text on the iPhone 4 despite it's smaller screen because of the high PPI. I think I might enjoy the larger screen vs the higher PPI.
If you want to see an example of jagged pixels, check out your avatar on the Xbox Live page. It's very noticeable.
I do think wp7 need to increase the resolution for these large screen devices. The lives are just too big! Love the titan but can't get over how giant those live tiles are compared to my HTC Radar! The jagged text is not an issue unless you pt your eye close to the screen though.
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I don't know about Titan,but when I compared the Radar side by side with my iPhone, they didn't have much of a difference except for when viewing a page completely zoomed out. The Radar showed jadgged pixels whereas iPhone didn't. but it isn't a big deal IMO. I couldn't read the iPhones text zoomed out because the screen is too small.
But I agree with the OP,some reviews just give the Titan a low score becaus of its dispay ppi which is ridiculous IMO. One of those sites is gsmarena.com. these guys didn't even know what ppi was lol but as soon as iPhone 4 was released,they paid a lot of attention to ppi and gave a low score to any dispay with 300 or lower ppi.
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It has a higher ppi than the iphone 3gs. Whoever says they think the screen is jaggy, or whatever, is deliberately nitpicking, IMO!
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you can see it when reading documents or viewing icons in windows phone. It's really apparent when reading pdfs or anything on the light theme. It's a minor annoyance versus the focus s/flash and the lumia, but its not a huge deal breaker
As far as other sites, its their opinions. And they go through phones daily, so to go from a phone with higher pixel density, you sort of expect it in a lot of your smart phone usage. When its not there, it's quite peculiar to watch. For some its a huge negative, but i can also see how people have stated that it gives Windows a comical experience.
I actually agree with the other pages
Nokia Lumia 800 (Black) Review
By XDA member Warren.D
Here’s a review I did for Nokia as they were generous enough to send me a Lumia 800. If I have missed out anything in particular or you have a request/question, inbox me and I’ll do what I can.
Pictures to follow Shortly.
Included in the box:
- Nokia Lumia 800
- Headphones (Without extra buds)
- USB cable
- AC adapter
- Phone Case
- Documentation & Manuals.
Nokia was kind enough to include a rubberised protection case in the box, its rather good quality too, although it can be quite fiddly to fit it on. One downfall I found was that they didn’t include any spare ear buds for the headphones, though I had some spares laying around. The headphones themselves are rather good quality too, they’re sturdy and they sound more than adequate.
Design & Build
Height - 116.5mm
Width – 61.2mm
Thickness – 12.1mm
Weight – 142g
The Apple iPhone now has a serious Rival. The Lumia 800 is truly a beautiful device you can clearly tell that Nokia has put a lot of thought and effort into the design of this phone. It’s resembles the N9 but has a smaller display and touch capacitive buttons. It’s available in 3 colours, Black, Cyan and Magenta.
In no way does the Lumia 800 feel heavy or bulky. It’s made from a single piece of polycarbonate plastic therefore the phone feels very sturdy in the hand, it has sufficient grip (without the case), and has a nice premium feel and Its extremely comfortable to use, even for prolonged periods. The 3.7inch Corning Gorilla Glass display has curved edges making it feel more natural to use, Swiping left to right is an absolute breeze. Nokia included their ‘AMOLED ClearBlack’ technology and the display really is vibrant and crisp. The blacks are truly black, you cannot tell where the display ends when you’ve selected the black WP7 theme. Also unlike my Galaxy S II, the screen does not collect fingerprints!
The 3.5mm headphone jack is located at the top, making it easy to hold and insert into your pocket when listening to music. Next to the jack, we have the Micro-USB/Charging Port which is located under a little door. Although it looks like it is fiddly to use and people have reported that its flimsy, it really isn’t anything to worry about, It helps keep the dust out. Once you have the charging door open you can slide the Micro-SIM slot to the side and it releases, allowing you to insert or change the Micro-SIM. It’s really easy and saves using a battery cover and ruining the ‘seamless’ design of the phone.
Located on the left hand side is the volume rocker, power key and dedicated camera key. The camera key is a welcome addition; you can activate the camera in standby and take a quick snap within seconds, even when using a pass code lock. Though if you do use a pass code it will not allow access to anything other than the camera application, meaning the security of your device isn’t under threat. Located on the bottom we have the loudspeaker and on the back is the 8 Megapixel Carl Zeiss Camera, and a Dual LED flash.
Camera
The Nokia Lumia 800 features an 8 Megapixel sensor with Carl Zeiss optics, 2.2 aperture, Dual LED flash, Auto focus and touch to focus, max resolution of 3264 x 2448 pixels, HD video recording up to 720p, Geo-tagging and many more features
I’m no camera expert but the quality of the pictures I have taken so far have all been crystal clear and sharp. The dedicated camera key is brilliant, a feature that I wish my Galaxy S II had. Even when I have viewed the pictures on my laptop they are crystal clear. The HD video recording is brilliant too, and the sound levels are more than adequate. I’m sure the Lumia 800 will do an excellent job capturing all those moments in your life.
Specification Highlights
3.7inch Amoled ClearBlack display (480 x 800)
Corning Gorilla Glass
8 Megapixel Camera with Dual LED flash.
Single-Core Qualcomm MSM8255 CPU clocked at 1400 Mhz
512 Mb of Ram
16 gig of Memory (No Micro-SD slot)
1450mAh battery
WLAN 802.11 b/g/n
HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
HSDPA 14.4 Mbps
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
GPS & A-GPS
3D Accelerometer
Proximity sensor
Magnetometer Sensor (Compass)
Ambient Light Sensor
3G Standby - max 355hrs
3G Talk time - max 9.5hrs
Music Playback - max 55hrs
Full Specification list can be found at http://www.nokia.co.uk/gb-en/products/phone/lumia800/specifications/
Operating system and Applications
The Nokia Lumia 800 runs Windows Phone 7.5 mango, and does a good job of it too, Nokia have really worked their magic. It’s very fluid, snappy and smooth as butter. It really is a smooth experience, I can’t stress that enough. WP7 is still making a name for itself in the fast paced Smartphone economy and I’m sure this device is going to bring the platform a lot of attention. You won’t come across all the apps you’d find in the Android Market or iOS app store but the apps available for WP7 is on the increase as more developers are taking interest. Many of the most popular apps are available in the WP7 marketplace.
Nokia have included three exclusive apps,
Nokia Drive
Turn by turn voice navigation. This app is very useful and has been implemented well. It’s very accurate, and the GPS is spot on and locks with satellites within seconds. You can download the maps free of charge within the application; this saves you from worrying about losing your signal and the maps not loading. There’s a useful toggle in the application to switch between Day/Night modes. Each mode provides a better viewing experience during the day and night. Night mode also decreases the brightness of the display making it less of a distraction whilst trying to keep your eyes on the road!
Nokia Maps
The maps application isn’t much different than the preinstalled bing maps. It offers the option to view local popular places, public transport and search. If you live in Scotland and you’re about to have a weekend break in London, You’re able to tap London into the search option, and then see the nightlife, shopping centres, public attractions in the area, and on top of that you can see reviews and contact details for these places. Pretty awesome!
Nokia Music
This app is really cool! Music fans are going to love it. You can find gigs near your current location, it provide the dates of the gigs, where they’re held at and even provides directions to get to the venue! You can listen to mix radio within the app, and even download mix radio playlists for offline listening, then once you’re connected to Wifi you can refresh the playlist to bring it up to date. You can update using 3G, although it’ll be a data hog and isn’t advised unless you truly have an unlimited data plan. The app will also recommend artists that are similar to your favourites, via the mp3 store that’s built in. You can create your own music profile, which works by collecting data from your downloaded music and pc, to ultimately give you personalised genre mixes.
Apps included in the OS
Internet Explorer is one of the most brilliant mobile browsers I have used. It’s simple, very snappy, and pages load with extremely fast with minimal page rendering. Pinch to zoom is so smooth!
Corporate and business users are going to welcome the addition of Microsoft Exchange and Microsoft Office in the palm of their hand. My other half tried the Exchange and it fully synced all of the contacts, calendar meetings/appointments and emails. I personally don’t use these two applications, but many users are going to find them extremely useful.
The People Hub is amazing since the mango update; it has everything your social life craves. It keeps all your social network updates in once easy to use place. You’re able to merge several different accounts within the hub, which saves you switching between different applications. The user interface is simplistic yet smart; it updates all your feeds quickly, so there’s not much waiting.
Within the text messaging application, Facebook chat and Windows live messenger have been implemented and it works well. This again, saves you from switching between multiple apps.
Gaming
With integrated XBOX live, the Lumia 800 will suffice all your gaming needs. I did a comparison between the Lumia 800 and my Galaxy S II with the Sims 3 game, the Nokia with a single core processor clocked at 1400 Mhz and half the RAM always loaded the game much quicker. I had the same result loading Angry Birds on both devices. The graphics on the Nokia are very good, as with most Windows Phone 7 devices. If you love to game, you’ll love this phone for sure.
System updates and Battery Life
Nokia has already rolled out updates to iron out bug fixes, and bring improvements.. The latest update Nokia provided vastly improved the battery life, it now lasts more than a day easily. Also after the latest update Audio quality through the earpiece and loudspeaker are louder and clearer. I believe Nokia are planning to roll out another update in early 2012, with bug fixes and with further battery life enhancements.
Summary
Nokia has done an excellent job with Lumia 800. The handset is good looking, and the build quality is outstanding. The hardware really enhances the operating system and the whole experience of Windows Phone 7. The device has loads of potential, and I’m sure it’s going to pull more people across from Android and iOS. It’s has the wow factor and it always catches someone’s eye. Anyone considering buying this device should take the plunge, I’m sure you won’t regret it.
Thank you, I am with sprint but thinking of switching to att so I can use this phone. Love it
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This is not a review, only a summary
Wodnik Szuwarek said:
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Its not finished. I've pictures and videos to add yet. Also Im going to add a section about the audio quality and an in depth section about the display.
If anyone has anything specific they want included in this, then request away.
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Boring question, but what's the case like? I too got mine from Nokia, but without it (the cases cardboard sleeve was there, but empty) so have resorted to an eBay gel effort.
Re: Case
The soft black case fits tightly to the contours of the screen, and back camera, so tight that several people thought it was the case for the phone until I slipped it off. There's a hole at the bottom for the speakers and one at the top for the usb port. The 4 holes on the button side are all slightly recessed allowing for even better button access, for those in-jacket volume changes.
Just search for CC-1031 Nokia and you should see some links for Nokia Europe Accessories page with info on these soft cover cases.
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Boring question, but what's the case like? I too got mine from Nokia, but without it (the cases cardboard sleeve was there, but empty) so have resorted to an eBay gel effort.
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As what weetigo said. The case is snug. Try contacing nokia customer service and explain to them you didn't recieve one. They may send one out.
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No one in the test group I'm part of got one... maybe I'll ask on the off chance, can't see them mailing one from Helsinki though. The eBay one isn't bad, sounds very similar in fact, very snug, recessed button holes etc. Only thing I don't like is the lack of protection for the top edge, but I don't see what can be done about that due to access needs.
Edit: Googled the official one, only difference seems to be that the SIM tray is blocked by the Nokia one and the eBay one doesn't have a divider between vol+ & -
Is the Galaxy S II worth to be swapped to Lumia 800?
That's like asking us what clothes you should wear today ! Only you know what YOU like, play with the phone yourself and decide and choose what to do
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Is the Galaxy S II worth to be swapped to Lumia 800?
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Personally No. I use so many apps that aren't available on WP7 yet. I do love WP7 though. Its personal taste, if the apps were there I'd happily switch between platforms.
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Personally No. I use so many apps that aren't available on WP7 yet. I do love WP7 though. Its personal taste, if the apps were there I'd happily switch between platforms.
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I just switched from Galaxy S II to Lumia 800 and yup, it's a downgrade primarily because of the apps. I miss Google Maps a lot. Having said that, Lumia 800 is a very good phone in its own right.
I just moved from a galaxy nexus to a lumia. WP7 os is enough for me and it has the apps I use.
Nice review! Thanks!
I had a LG e900 and now I also have a Lumia 800. There are 3 things that are in my opinion a step back in relation to the lower end and older LG e900:
- Sound quality – Its really bad in my opinion.
- Autonomy (Nokia has stated that an update will be issued beginning next year to address battery issues)
- Screen – AMOLED is great but the pattern of the screen makes small letters harder to read. The LG LCD is better in that respect.
There are 4 things missing from a high-end phone like this:
- HDMI output
- Front facing camera
- More RAM! N9 has 64GB! Lumia only as 16.
- Inner-ear headphones. Going back from those to the ones provided in the box is not a good experience.
Really like the phone but there is room for improvement.
You should remember that Lumia 800 is not a high-end phone. It is only a mid range phone. The high end models are yet to be unveiled.
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You should remember that Lumia 800 is not a high-end phone. It is only a mid range phone. The high end models are yet to be unveiled.
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Well... there are devices on the same price range that have some of the features I mentioned. LG Optimus 2X for instance is being sold in Portugal for about 300 euro and the Lumia at best is over 400. The LG has fullhd recording capabilities, its duo core, tegra 2, and has a front facing camera. Thats what Windows Phone and Nokia are competing with.
I would not trade my Lumia for the LG mind you. But I still believe that the price range for Lumia should at the very least include some more storage and a front facing camera (after all it was one of the updates that Mango had in line to support).
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Is this the same phone as the Lumia 710 coming out for T-Mobile next month?
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Is this the same phone as the Lumia 710 coming out for T-Mobile next month?
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Definitely not. The Lumia 710 is the "budget" phone of the family, whereas the Lumia 800 is the midrange.
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Well... there are devices on the same price range that have some of the features I mentioned. LG Optimus 2X for instance is being sold in Portugal for about 300 euro and the Lumia at best is over 400. The LG has fullhd recording capabilities, its duo core, tegra 2, and has a front facing camera. Thats what Windows Phone and Nokia are competing with.
I would not trade my Lumia for the LG mind you. But I still believe that the price range for Lumia should at the very least include some more storage and a front facing camera (after all it was one of the updates that Mango had in line to support).
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Optimus 2X is a year old model. When it hit the market the price was over 500 euros.
I know HTC have yet to announce their phones but let's pretend we only have these two choices. Which one would you buy from these two choices? Both phones have positives and negatives. The Ativ S is thinner, lighter, bigger screen, micro sd slot, The Nokia doesn't have these Ativ's positives. The Nokia has a better camera but has no sd slot, smaller screen, thicker and heavier. Yes the Nokia also has wireless charging but that is a feature for home/office and doesn't really benefit when you are out using your phone.
So I am torn between the two phones. I like a bigger, thinner phone with sd card but I like Nokia's camera tech. Perhaps the Samsung's camera would be sufficient.
I think 55% am leaning towards the Ativ and 45% towards the Nokia. Not sure if HTC will tempt me again. Have owned nothing but HTC phones and their usb ports fail after a while due to the constant plugging in to charge. I guess that is where Nokia's wireless charging is a plus - saves wear on ports.
if samsung one comes with hdmi i will buy it
Nokia! It has a better display(1280x768 RGB), brighter and has some unique features like the super sensivity and the smoother scrolling, I also like the Nokia design more, has better camera(also with unique things), and maybe also for better audio quality as all the Samsung phone that I had had awful quality(maybe with wp it can change who know?) And I love Nokia apps.
I really don't like Samsung's display...
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I know HTC have yet to announce their phones but let's pretend we only have these two choices. Which one would you buy from these two choices? Both phones have positives and negatives. The Ativ S is thinner, lighter, bigger screen, micro sd slot, The Nokia doesn't have these Ativ's positives. The Nokia has a better camera but has no sd slot, smaller screen, thicker and heavier. Yes the Nokia also has wireless charging but that is a feature for home/office and doesn't really benefit when you are out using your phone.
So I am torn between the two phones. I like a bigger, thinner phone with sd card but I like Nokia's camera tech. Perhaps the Samsung's camera would be sufficient.
I think 55% am leaning towards the Ativ and 45% towards the Nokia. Not sure if HTC will tempt me again. Have owned nothing but HTC phones and their usb ports fail after a while due to the constant plugging in to charge. I guess that is where Nokia's wireless charging is a plus - saves wear on ports.
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Nokia looks good, but not impressed with the colors, Wish they had cyan again, not sure why they dropped it for the 920.
Still undecided. But if I want a better camera , better camera lens apps and features apps then Lumia it is.
I will definitly go with the nokia.why?
Because it look sexy like the lumia 800/900. Very good hardware and WP8
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I don't want to go with a PenTile screen again. The 0.3 inches difference of the display is not really an issue to me as is the thinness of the device. What I believe will still be interesting is battery life, given that the Ativ S features a stronger battery. If the stabilized camera on the Lumia delivers on it's promises that is what will make the decision for me (unless HTC shows something that is clearly in another league - and a Quadcore phone even if it has superior performance won't make the needed difference for me).
I will go for the Lumia 920.
Hardware and software wise Nokia clearly has an advantage over Samsung and i don't mean on paper but the actual quality of image sensors, materials and music quality will be better on Nokia as well as exclusive apps.
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Nokia,
Reason : Exclusive apps and frequent updates.
I would look at them both but, Nokia 920 might be the one but, I want to see what HTC has to show before moving forward.
I can't believe that WP8 supports microSD and Nokia decide to leave it out of the 920. Crazy!
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I can't believe that WP8 supports microSD and Nokia decide to leave it out of the 920. Crazy!
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32gb for me is enough...
It seems that you really hate Nokia...
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Nokia: LTE, Best in class camera (Carl Zeiss lens), 2000mAH battery, sexy looking, multiple colors, nokia maps, does not look anything like an iphone. And samsung cannot hold light to their customer service (IMO). Nokia for me.
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Nokia: LTE, Best in class camera (Carl Zeiss lens), 2000mAH battery, sexy looking, multiple colors, nokia maps, does not look anything like an iphone. And samsung cannot hold light to their customer service (IMO). Nokia for me.
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Glad your Nokia customer service is good here in Thailand they are useless.
I will wait until HTC show there hand. But most likely end up with a 920 if the camera is as good as they say (shame it so heavy though, And no sd slot :silly.
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I can't believe that WP8 supports microSD and Nokia decide to leave it out of the 920. Crazy!
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it has the max size of mass storage already build in so there is not really any need to give it an extra sd slot (if you go to the max with the 820 you have 40 GB and the 920 "only" 32GB )
and if you had the skydrive longer then you have 25 GB not 7 GB
ATIV S: user replaceable battery, MicroSD, SAmoled, lighter and not looking like clown (Black/Grey)
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I can't believe that WP8 supports microSD and Nokia decide to leave it out of the 920. Crazy!
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Agreed.
If the Nokia 920 had micro SD then it would have been my choice. Its a big mistake I think not to include SD support. The handset looks awesome. I love the designs and the specs are very similar to the ativ under the hood.
But there's no forgiving the lack of SD cards here. Been there done that before. I would most likely go with the ativ s.
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Lumia 920 may be, but Samsung NEVER. Waiting for HTC to do its magic...
imo Nokia should subsidize both lumia devices.
The best way to get more WP8-Lumia-customers is to lure them with a really good price.
A normal customer goes to the store and compares the Lumia920 with other devices.
This normal customer doesn't know that WP8 doesn't need as much resources like android.
You don't need a quad-core CPU in a WP8 device but why should you pay 500€ (or more) for a dual-core Lumia920 when you get a SGS3 with quad-core for the same (or less) money?
A Lumia 920 for 350€ would do the job.
This bargain would get media-hyped and this is what Nokia needs.
When the market share is good enough they can adapt the price.
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on topic... i would choose the Lumia 920.
I like the design of the Ativ S more but the Nokia features are the reason why the Lumia 920 is my first choice.
I'm just thinking - don't these have MHL?? They should.
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ruyzalim said:
if samsung one comes with hdmi i will buy it
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I would expect MHL on both.
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Nope. Wrong. No MHL on the 920. Amazing. Does it have Apt-x at least? Nope. Apt-x is BT 4.0.
I cannot believe that Nokia has licensed apt-x, are making a great bt headset with active and passive (in-ear) noise cancellation, but the new Flagship 920 doesn't have apt-x. Why pay for the license??
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32gb for me is enough...
It seems that you really hate Nokia...
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i dont hate nokia. What a stupid assumption to make.
Ok, I am reading all of these posts and EVERYONE for some reason or another thinks the Lumia 920 will have the best screen "by far". I think this is pure speculation and Nokia has you believing it will be the best. The only thing I can see that changed from any other device is they say it now runs at 60hz or the refresh rate is 60 and you can use it with gloves on so its super sensitive (which actually could end up being a flaw because it will be very easy to accidentally launch an app since anything that touches the screen will do it)
Have you guys that are saying it IS the best ever used a HTC One X screen? That screen is currently the best screen on any smartphone and I have a hard time believing that an IPS display with nokia's clearblack technology will beat the 8X screen because the 8X will be using the same exact Super LCD 2 screen that is found on the One X just with a smaller size and higher PPI.
I have used just about every device currently on the market and I can honestly tell you that the reviewers that have reviewed the One X are not incorrect when they almost always point out that the screen is the best they have ever seen on a mobile device. When comparing a One X next to my IPS display on my Nexus 7, the colors on the One X just pop and it really makes that IPS look bad. Also streaming a 720p mkv file from my NAS, the One X display blows the Nexus 7 away and all the other phones I have with Super Amoled HD or Super Amoled Plus screens.
I just wanna know what makes the Lumia the best? I think we have to see it in person to claim it is "the best screen by far"
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Ok, I am reading all of these posts and EVERYONE for some reason or another thinks the Lumia 920 will have the best screen "by far". I think this is pure speculation and Nokia has you believing it will be the best. The only thing I can see that changed from any other device is they say it now runs at 60hz or the refresh rate is 60 and you can use it with gloves on so its super sensitive (which actually could end up being a flaw because it will be very easy to accidentally launch an app since anything that touches the screen will do it)
Have you guys that are saying it IS the best ever used a HTC One X screen? That screen is currently the best screen on any smartphone and I have a hard time believing that an IPS display with nokia's clearblack technology will beat the 8X screen because the 8X will be using the same exact Super LCD 2 screen that is found on the One X just with a smaller size and higher PPI.
I have used just about every device currently on the market and I can honestly tell you that the reviewers that have reviewed the One X are not incorrect when they almost always point out that the screen is the best they have ever seen on a mobile device. When comparing a One X next to my IPS display on my Nexus 7, the colors on the One X just pop and it really makes that IPS look bad. Also streaming a 720p mkv file from my NAS, the One X display blows the Nexus 7 away and all the other phones I have with Super Amoled HD or Super Amoled Plus screens.
I just wanna know what makes the Lumia the best? I think we have to see it in person to claim it is "the best screen by far"
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Not only is the refresh rate higher removing motion blur (as much as you can), but it uses nokia clear black tech (look at the 800). On top of that it is the brightest screen on any mobile device (can be viewed in direct sunlight). Nokia screens rock even the 808 screen rocks and that has pathetic ppi as its Symbian so imagine what hd will look like.
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Not only is the refresh rate higher removing motion blur (as much as you can), but it uses nokia clear black tech (look at the 800). On top of that it is the brightest screen on any mobile device (can be viewed in direct sunlight). Nokia screens rock even the 808 screen rocks and that has pathetic ppi as its Symbian so imagine what hd will look like.
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Your statement about the brightness is incorrect. At max it is 600 nits (best case scenario), the motorola droid bionic is 635.6 nits so it is not the brightest screen on any mobile device. Also the HTC One X was over 500 nits anyway so the brightness argument is pretty irrelevant.
timgt said:
I think we have to see it in person to claim it is "the best screen by far"
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This sums it up. We can't know if the 920 will have the better display or if the 8X will have the better display until we see both.
It's also quite funny that you complain about people claiming that a phone will have a better display than another when they haven't seen them, and then you go on to imply that the 8X will have the better display.
You state that the 920 has IPS as if that's a bad thing? And you base that entirely on the fact that the N7 has an IPS display and you don't like it? The N7 has a low quality IPS display, of course it doesn't look that impressive. If you knew anything about display tech you would know that high quality IPS displays are some of the best out there. Most high end monitors are IPS displays.
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The Janitor Mop said:
This sums it up. We can't know if the 920 will have the better display or if the 8X will have the better display until we see both.
It's also quite funny that you complain about people claiming that a phone will have a better display than another when they haven't seen them, and then you go on to imply that the 8X will have the better display.
You state that the 920 has IPS as if that's a bad thing? And you base that entirely on the fact that the N7 has an IPS display and you don't like it? The N7 has a low quality IPS display, of course it doesn't look that impressive. If you knew anything about display tech you would know that high quality IPS displays are some of the best out there. Most high end monitors are IPS displays.
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I didn't imply the 8X will have the better display, im just sick of reading all over the place that the 920 has the superior display from people that haven't even touched a One X. I would love to see the 920 have the best display but I really see the LCD 2 screen hard to beat. The only place it falls short is Amoled Black levels.
I know not all IPS displays are as crappy as the Nexus 7, My Ipad 3 has a very good looking screen but I still think it falls a little short compared to the screen the One X offers.
We will just have to wait and see, people should dismiss this claim of the 920 having the best display. Without tech sites being able to do a side by side comparison with both device in hand we can't claim WE know which has the best display.
timgt said:
Your statement about the brightness is incorrect. At max it is 600 nits (best case scenario), the motorola droid bionic is 635.6 nits so it is not the brightest screen on any mobile device. Also the HTC One X was over 500 nits anyway so the brightness argument is pretty irrelevant.
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I don't know anything about the Droid Bionic tbf you may be correct there, I also am not saying for fact as you said you have to see them in the flesh. Its the same with any spec on an unreleased product. We go by what is reported and compare that to the next and draw conclusions from that and from all the evidence as I said above it is fair to sy the lumia will have a better screen.
"It's 25% brighter than the next brightest smartphone display on the market" quote from Nokia, as I said it may be wrong I am just going on what is available. Also though not the 25% claimed 500 is about 83.3% of 600, that's still quite a jump.
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I didn't imply the 8X will have the better display, im just sick of reading all over the place that the 920 has the superior display from people that haven't even touched a One X. I would love to see the 920 have the best display but I really see the LCD 2 screen hard to beat. The only place it falls short is Amoled Black levels.
I know not all IPS displays are as crappy as the Nexus 7, My Ipad 3 has a very good looking screen but I still think it falls a little short compared to the screen the One X offers.
We will just have to wait and see, people should dismiss this claim of the 920 having the best display. Without tech sites being able to do a side by side comparison with both device in hand we can't claim WE know which has the best display.
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So you are saying that the One X display is better than the Ipad 3 display? Come on While I really like the One X Super LCD 2 I have to give it to the iPad 3, I think it is just the most gorgeous display around atm, be it on phone or tablet...Too bad I cannot afford one, but I have used it quite a bit in my office and compared to One X, S3 etc. and I think they don't even come close, even though they are even better on paper, like more ppi and stuff. In the end I think it comes down to user experience and personal preference.
Regarding the Lumia 920 - I do think it will probably have a better display than One X, iphone 5, 8x, S3 w/e. You will see the difference in sunlight, where, as someone already mentioned, even the 808 stands out. Just wait and see. About the super sensitive stuff - you might have a point here, I hope it is not going to end up overly uber sensitive. That being said, I do love the fact that you can use gloves, since I hate the hassle that is talking on the phone while skiing/being on a lift. Can lead to serious gloves losses and is obviously annoying :cyclops:
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I do love the fact that you can use gloves, since I hate the hassle that is talking on the phone while skiing/being on a lift. Can lead to serious gloves losses and is obviously annoying :cyclops:
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This is a real issue lol. Other issues include things like going sailing/kayaking etc when you want your phone in a sealed waterproof bag. Or hiking/walking. I am fat and lazy so non of these affect me but my mum does all of it and would also love the great camera and big battery once again because she does all of this.
Trolololo Nokia again. Screen of xperia P is around 780-800 nits (RGBW ftw). I highly doubt that the lumia's screen is over 1000 nits.
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Fighting over things that all of you have never seen in person or touched. Nice.
I tried nokia c6, e7, n9, neo, iphone 4s, evo 3D i give the evo 3D for best performance but with respect to nokia not a day passed it restarted itself or had any sort of problem with apps even android in n9 was awesome, i don't think people are exagerating about the 920 and 820 release
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Fighting over things that all of you have never seen in person or touched. Nice.
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No but I have not seen the lumia but I have seen though I didn't get to play with the 8x and it was about on a par with the one x. I also have a lumia 800 with clear black and the diff it makes is amazing, even with the lower res the same images just pop of the screen. I know a lot of people don't like the artificialness of it like the same as not liking beats audio etc. However I have seen enough of nokia and htc and Samsung to be able to put forth an argument with the info we have. I may be wrong and I will be the first to say it didn't live up but you don't need to drive a Ferrari to know its better than an impreza.
I actually recently acquired a one x and I still like the LG hd nitro screen better. It's more crisp and colors are really nice. I also think that screen gave the iPhone retina display a run for its money.
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The iPhone screen and the One X screen are overatted. Sense 4.0 makes the One V screen look nice.
Not that I am saying the Lumia 920 will have the best screen or anything because judging by the videos, the 8x and One X screen does look better still. The point is that most high end devices have pretty nice screens and none blow the other away. That is just fanboy talk. They are all quite close except for the deformed iPhone 5 screen. No one wants to watch movies on a bookmark.
I think they all will be close with the 8x taking it provided HTC gets to sensify wp8. If not, the One X probably keeps the crown or maybe the Optimus G. That screen looks sharp in videos too.
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The iPhone screen and the One X screen are overatted. Sense 4.0 makes the One V screen look nice.
Not that I am saying the Lumia 920 will have the best screen or anything because judging by the videos, the 8x and One X screen does look better still. The point is that most high end devices have pretty nice screens and none blow the other away. That is just fanboy talk. They are all quite close except for the deformed iPhone 5 screen. No one wants to watch movies on a bookmark.
I think they all will be close with the 8x taking it provided HTC gets to sensify wp8. If not, the One X probably keeps the crown or maybe the Optimus G. That screen looks sharp in videos too.
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What do you mean with all this?
Wow people are arguing that the One X has a superior screen to IPS, when the One X screen is a FREAKIN IPS screen. HTC has given it a fancy SUperLCD2 name to differentiate but it is still an IPS screen. The other high-end type of LCD screen is PLS, which Samsung puts in its tablets. It's similar to IPS but is cheaper to make. There's nothing else. HTC hasn't developed some newfangled LCD technology. The top tier is all IPS, with different variations and quality.
Comparing the One X to the Nexus 7 is stupid since it is a budget IPS screen. This was known since the beginning when DisplayMate ran tests that showed it clipped a lot of lower black shades. The One X ain't perfect either. It is overly warm and personally as a previous owner of the One X, I was not impressed by the contrast, viewing angles, nor the warm and sleepy look. The iPhone 5 and the iPad 3 have the best and most color-corrected displays on mobile right now. I know there will be many screaming bloody murder, and in fact there already are people doing so, that an Apple product is ever mentioned in a good light. The ability to reason escaped them long ago.
I can tell the Lumia 920 has a better display than the One X. How is that you say? Through many many youtube videos. People are gonna go blah blah you can't compare screens through a youtube video or that my screen sucks and it will never be able to showcase a better display. This thinking is flawed since experience shows to be otherwise and evety screen I've seen on youtube looks almost the same in real life. The One X looks warm and sleepy with average contrast on my computer. It was the same way when I got it in the mail and booted it up. The Lumia 900 has these awful blue live tiles on youtube videos, because it's Nokia's AMOLED tech and the colors are all wack. Same thing confirmed on literally half a dozen Lumia 900 models displayed at my local AT&T store. The iPhone 5 and iPad 3 screen are just as good in person as youtube videos suggest. Youtube videos will exaggerate any color imbalances or lack of sharpness and general screen quality. You need to look for the high quality hands-on videos, not the crappy blurry amateur porn looking ones with strange hues.
That's how I can tell the Lumia 920 is better than the 8X screen. The videos of the Lumia 920 make the colors look far more neutral, more colorful and bright, and much higher contrast and even looking. The 8X has the same screen as the One X, which doesn't have the same contrast, has a warmer and sleepier look (like the cinema mode on a TV), and just isn't as punchy.
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Wow people are arguing that the One X has a superior screen to IPS, when the One X screen is a FREAKIN IPS screen. HTC has given it a fancy SUperLCD2 name to differentiate but it is still an IPS screen. The other high-end type of LCD screen is PLS, which Samsung puts in its tablets. It's similar to IPS but is cheaper to make. There's nothing else. HTC hasn't developed some newfangled LCD technology. The top tier is all IPS, with different variations and quality.
Comparing the One X to the Nexus 7 is stupid since it is a budget IPS screen. This was known since the beginning when DisplayMate ran tests that showed it clipped a lot of lower black shades. The One X ain't perfect either. It is overly warm and personally as a previous owner of the One X, I was not impressed by the contrast, viewing angles, nor the warm and sleepy look. The iPhone 5 and the iPad 3 have the best and most color-corrected displays on mobile right now. I know there will be many screaming bloody murder, and in fact there already are people doing so, that an Apple product is ever mentioned in a good light. The ability to reason escaped them long ago.
I can tell the Lumia 920 has a better display than the One X. How is that you say? Through many many youtube videos. People are gonna go blah blah you can't compare screens through a youtube video or that my screen sucks and it will never be able to showcase a better display. This thinking is flawed since experience shows to be otherwise and evety screen I've seen on youtube looks almost the same in real life. The One X looks warm and sleepy with average contrast on my computer. It was the same way when I got it in the mail and booted it up. The Lumia 900 has these awful blue live tiles on youtube videos, because it's Nokia's AMOLED tech and the colors are all wack. Same thing confirmed on literally half a dozen Lumia 900 models displayed at my local AT&T store. The iPhone 5 and iPad 3 screen are just as good in person as youtube videos suggest. Youtube videos will exaggerate any color imbalances or lack of sharpness and general screen quality. You need to look for the high quality hands-on videos, not the crappy blurry amateur porn looking ones with strange hues.
That's how I can tell the Lumia 920 is better than the 8X screen. The videos of the Lumia 920 make the colors look far more neutral, more colorful and bright, and much higher contrast and even looking. The 8X has the same screen as the One X, which doesn't have the same contrast, has a warmer and sleepier look (like the cinema mode on a TV), and just isn't as punchy.
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Someone is on crack. Like I said before, no matter how sharp the iPhone 5 display is, it loses on shape and a pathetic width alone. It makes everything look tall and skinny or really short and wide unless you zoom. That is an automatic fail.
Tomatoes8 said:
Someone is on crack. Like I said before, no matter how sharp the iPhone 5 display is, it loses on shape and a pathetic width alone. It makes everything look tall and skinny or really short and wide unless you zoom. That is an automatic fail.
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I don't get why you think this as it has just changes to a 16x9 aspect ratio, This is the same as most screens on new phones 720x1280 i think its the same as the one x though don't quote me on that but it is deffo the same as the upcoming htc 8x. I hate the iPhone i think its stupidly over priced over hyped and dull, but, the screen is still really nice though i found that the blacks are really grey.
lumpaywk said:
I don't get why you think this as it has just changes to a 16x9 aspect ratio, This is the same as most screens on new phones 720x1280 i think its the same as the one x though don't quote me on that but it is deffo the same as the upcoming htc 8x. I hate the iPhone i think its stupidly over priced over hyped and dull, but, the screen is still really nice though i found that the blacks are really grey.
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It has the same aspect ratio as the One X but 16.9 aspect ratio doesn't work for small screens. And since the iPhone 5 screen is no wider and only taller than their old 3.5 inch screen, they should have kept the 4:3 aspect ratio. The iPad uses 4:3 because that is the proper aspect ratio for IOS. The iPhone 5 screen is ugly as hell and just does not fit. It is the equivalent of using one of those skinny or fat mirrors at an amusent park as the mirror in your bathroom. It doesn't matter how nice the glass is it is still a circus mirror.
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It has the same aspect ratio as the One X but 16.9 aspect ratio doesn't work for small screens. And since the iPhone 5 screen is no wider and only taller than their old 3.5 inch screen, they should have kept the 4:3 aspect ratio. The iPad uses 4:3 because that is the proper aspect ratio for IOS. The iPhone 5 screen is ugly as hell and just does not fit. It is the equivalent of using one of those skinny or fat mirrors at an amusent park as the mirror in your bathroom. It doesn't matter how nice the glass is it is still a circus mirror.
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? If you have a 4:3 aspect ratio with a 1280x720 resolution, you would have rectangular pixels, very rectangular. In fact, almost every phone with such a resolution has rectangular pixels with the exception of the new iphone whose pixels are as close to properly squared as you're going to find. That means everything on the new iphone is properly proportioned, whereas on most phones, images are slightly widened in portrait and lengthened in landscape.
Just received the new Galaxy S4 yesterday. After playing around with it for a day, I must say that I'm quite indifferent about it. I don't consider it a huge upgrade from the LGOG at all... Here's some initial thoughts:
Display - I kept reading all the hype about the 1080p Super AMOLED display on the S4 and had very high expectations. It's OK at best. A pentile-matrix display is still no match for full RGB LCD pixels like on the OG, even at 720p. The S4's autobrightness is also set much too dim, and I find myself having to manually slide the brightness level up and down to fit the surrounding lighting.
Build Quality/Appearance - The LGOG definitely feels like a higher quality handset than the S4 when you compare the two. The button layout and location of the ports are pretty much identical (which are some of the things that kept me from getting the HTC One instead). However, the glass back and diamond pattern of the LG just looks better, plain and simple.
OS Skin - I find that LG's Android skin is much more customizable than Samsung's Touchwiz. Using the LGOG stock out of the box feels like you're using a custom ROM from the XDA forums, there are so many customization options.
Performance - This is where the LGOG really shines. I have yet to find anything that makes the LGOG lag. Every animation and action done on the phone looks like it's running at 60fps. Switching between apps is instantaneous and the user experience is a pleasure. With all the beefed up internals of the S4 (higher processor and GPU clock speeds), I still saw some lagginess when performing certain actions. This was something I was not expecting on the S4, but I am pretty sure it has to do with all the new bells and whistles Samsung tried to cram into the phone (Air View, Air Gesture, Smart Stay, Smart Scroll, etc). Bottom line, the S4 benchmarks might be higher, but in daily use the LGOG is a smoother user experience.
Battery Life - This is the only thing that is still up in the air, as I have only had the S4 for one day. I expect the S4 to be better in this category though since it has a higher capacity battery, and judging from existing reviews.
Hope this post helps anyone that is on the fence between these 2 phones! I'd be happy to answer questions.
It would be awesome if you can do some sort of video comparison. (Don’t have to be really professional one… Just a simple video) If you have some time to kill.
I don't expect the S4 to last longer. Why? There's too much extra crap in there and a bigger screen, hence the bigger battery. Its probably going to be the same, if not worse.
I thought about getting that phone, but after previewing it and the HTC one, I had to stay with my LGOG and my Nexus 4.
I hate my S3 now since I got the Nexus and then LG.
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I don't expect the S4 to last longer. Why? There's too much extra crap in there and a bigger screen, hence the bigger battery. Its probably going to be the same, if not worse.
I thought about getting that phone, but after previewing it and the HTC one, I had to stay with my LGOG and my Nexus 4.
I hate my S3 now since I got the Nexus and then LG.
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I used to have a Nexus 4 also, and like the OG much better (capacitive buttons, LTE, SD card slot). Especially now that the OG has fully functioning AOSP roms. The only thing I don't like is how HOT the phone gets during heavy use or internet browsing using mobile network data. I'm sure the high temps negatively affect battery life.
It still stands that I am largely unimpressed by the Galaxy S4 when compared to the OG. Even their cameras are comparable in normal outdoor daylight. I have not tested low light yet, but pretty much all phone cameras suck in low light except for a few (Nokia 808, HTC One, Lumia 920).
I got my S4 last weekend and have to say I agree with OP, after couple days of using the S4 couldn't wait to get back to my LGOG with CM10.1. The S4 display was disappointing to me and it was extremely laggy, much more then my S3.
A guy at my local best buy just got one and it just doesn't seem up to par with my LGOG like I thought it would and my display looks better too
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You guys are comparing the s4 with the LGOG!! This phone has been out for a long time now. And not that many roms.. I understand it took awhile to unlock the bootloader. And its crappy LG.. Bad support. I was just gifted this phone but i guess i just have to sale it or convert it into a N4
Are you talking about Quad or Eight Core SIV? I have the Quad one and I still prefer the DNA or the LGOG. Yes it is an LG so rarely gets updates but aside from that LGOG is much better.
Sell the SIV and use your LGOG
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You guys are comparing the s4 with the LGOG!! This phone has been out for a long time now. And not that many roms.. I understand it took awhile to unlock the bootloader. And its crappy LG.. Bad support. I was just gifted this phone but i guess i just have to sale it or convert it into a N4
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Lol misinformed. There are tons of roms and not to mention the option to convert is just plain awesome to have.
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My neighbor just got the s4 and I couldn't help my self. I had to play with it. I think the lgog is the better device IMHO.
Now I just need to play with the HTC one. So far I'm happy with purchasing the lgog n not waiting for the s4
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IPS displays offer awesome viewing angles, colors, saturation, more light viewing, and battery life. That Super AMOLED is an OLED (Organic Light Emitting Diode) that gives you truer blacks than any LCD technology could hope to (even plasma isn't up to par). It offers great colors,viewing angles, brightness, saturation, etc and better battery life in a screen tech vs screen tech heads up. LG is great with their phones and has really stepped up since my last ATT Phone, the Shine (man I loved that phone). Their support is there and have stepped it up with updates for all their products across the board. Kind of hard to compare technology of a phone seven to nine months old to a newer phone. I actually lag my LGOG using LG's own keyboard on games like RoB, MWOH, and FFAB. Of course many SGS2 would freeze before I even rooted and ROM'd, my LGOG isn't freezing though it can lag and stutter (not rooted on my new one or anything yet).
LG doesn't give us a removable battery here but that's not a killer to me. The screen also is too easy to break (mine, on a brand new one only two weeks old that was rooyed and freegee'd actually had a crack go across the bottom of my screen and it was never dropped or anything.) My SGS2 was dropped and barely had a chip in it and that was on the side.
The SGS4 is thin and plasticky to me. I don't mind thinness (the LGOG is about the same as my SGS2) but it's about as slippery as my LGOG and costs way more.
The screen on the SGS4 uses a diamond tile matrix overlay on top of the OLED (AMOLED) LED backing. It's not terrible and is actually better than the SGS3 version. However the ppi is greatly enhanced but Samsung really doesn't need that type of overlay.
In all the LGOG feels better and responds better than the SGS4 in my opinion. To me it seems LG did better at optimizing their software for the LGOG than Samsung did with their phone, hence the lag.
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