Why did you choose an android device?why not ios device?
I have an android device and except from the open system and maybe the widgets (I'm not using but still...)why android is better from ios?I'm really asking because I want to buy a phone and I'm in dilemma.(forget about the hardware lets say I choose a phone with specs exactly like the iphone)
Here is why I think that ios is better:
1.the system works very fast and smooth and its very easy to use.
2.the "multi tasking" works pretty well even that its not a real multitasking because I can quit from numbers of apps and return to my stop point in these apps (in android the system can close it.
3.in ios when I close an app it won't restart itself after few seconds(in android apps like facebook,whatsapp google maps tap tap 4 etc restart after few seconds)
4.ios got more apps and all the popular apps will be first on the iphone.
5.I wont get a message that says that the app isnt compatible with my device.
6.I already have an good system and I wont need to change the rom(I know that ios dosent have roms but u got my point)
7.apps run more smoothly on ios device than on an android device.
I'm really asking why android is better because as I said before I want to buy a new phone so its or an iphone or android phone.
Thanks for all the helpers.
P.S
don't say that android is an open system because I already know that
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I am an "hacker" (I don't find correct word, in Italian is "smanettone"), I enjoy flashing, I enjoy change look often, and again, and again...I love possibilities that android give us..upple device can be a great hardware, ok, but android give us more customization. Apps are in porting, now we have Jetpack too
Is normal, if that u have an small devices, like Galaxy Gio or similar you are limited..
And other: android is for all...did u see an apple device not expansive (not excist less than 500€ in italy)..and we have android phone that costs 80€...
And finally...ANDROID IS OPEN!!
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kfirbep said:
Why did you choose an android device?why not ios device?
I have an android device and except from the open system and maybe the widgets (I'm not using but still...)why android is better from ios?I'm really asking because I want to buy a phone and I'm in dilemma.(forget about the hardware lets say I choose a phone with specs exactly like the iphone)
Here is why I think that ios is better:
1.the system works very fast and smooth and its very easy to use.
2.the "multi tasking" works pretty well even that its not a real multitasking because I can quit from numbers of apps and return to my stop point in these apps (in android the system can close it.
3.in ios when I close an app it won't restart itself after few seconds(in android apps like facebook,whatsapp google maps tap tap 4 etc restart after few seconds)
4.ios got more apps and all the popular apps will be first on the iphone.
5.I wont get a message that says that the app isnt compatible with my device.
6.I already have an good system and I wont need to change the rom(I know that ios dosent have roms but u got my point)
7.apps run more smoothly on ios device than on an android device.
I'm really asking why android is better because as I said before I want to buy a new phone so its or an iphone or android phone.
Thanks for all the helpers.
P.S
don't say that android is an open system because I already know that
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LOL smh.. Just get an iPhone and be done with it. If you need to ask then it's better to be in the walled garden.. LOL next thing he's gonna ask why have root? Da appz still not smooth as iPhonez why do I needz rootz?
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When ever a friend tells me that his Iphone is superior I always set them a simple task
My pc in the corner has a shared folder with music on it. Quickly brows the folder and copy a song to your device, then set it as a ring tone, all over wifi, no cables no itunes just you your device and the network share. They are quick to say sure let me just download this server software to your pc and add this app to my phone yada yada yada
While he is trying to explain his way out of this I grab the song trim it convert it and email it to his Iphone all from me S3, I love the look on his face when In mid explanation he gets my mail, Just save the attachment I say, and play it for us! Oh you can't? Shame
Such fun the iSheep are to play with
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ChongoDroid said:
LOL smh.. Just get an iPhone and be done with it. If you need to ask then it's better to be in the walled garden.. LOL next thing he's gonna ask why have root? Da appz still not smooth as iPhonez why do I needz rootz?
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I agree 100%, why do you want us to convince you to do something you don't seem inclined towards? Buy the iPhone, solid choice, if that is your desire and it fills your needs. I find these posts kind of pointless, are people really looking for others to justify their purchases, or just trying to start another Android vs. IOS war....
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I agree 100%, why do you want us to convince you to do something you don't seem inclined towards? Buy the iPhone, solid choice, if that is your desire and it fills your needs. I find these posts kind of pointless, are people really looking for others to justify their purchases, or just trying to start another Android vs. IOS war....
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+1.
Just to show few examples of why is Android better and why this is called open os, watch out the video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMiY1kSTHZw&sns=em
Jellybean is smooth like butter and has better features than iOS. Crappy iTunes took up >50GB for its app backups on my PC.
Almost all apps are available on both os. In fact I find more useful ones like Tasker, Timeriffic.. etc in Android. Tell us few apps which are only available for iOS without which you can't live with Android.
It's individual perception but I think Android is best os for hundreds of reasons..
Edit: Forgot to mention Google Music(20000 songs storage) , Google Now (much much better than crappy Siri), Google Navigation, Google Maps and last but not the least XDA and the community
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After actually having used an iPad, I can tell you the biggest reason I would never go IOS: NO FILE MANAGER! I guess I just took it for granted on android, but I cannot survive without being able to manage the files on my device either while on the device itself, or even a PC! I am not just talking songs and pictures, I mean being able to download any file type, than transferring it onto any PC without iTunes having to bog it down.
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Because a Galaxy Nexus cost half of what an iPhone cost.
ZaJules said:
When ever a friend tells me that his Iphone is superior I always set them a simple task
My pc in the corner has a shared folder with music on it. Quickly brows the folder and copy a song to your device, then set it as a ring tone, all over wifi, no cables no itunes just you your device and the network share. They are quick to say sure let me just download this server software to your pc and add this app to my phone yada yada yada
While he is trying to explain his way out of this I grab the song trim it convert it and email it to his Iphone all from me S3, I love the look on his face when In mid explanation he gets my mail, Just save the attachment I say, and play it for us! Oh you can't? Shame
Such fun the iSheep are to play with
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Haha awesome way to show them how LIMITED is iOS.
OP if you really want my opinion ill tell you this way, if you want to spend alot for a fancy glittered phone that gets apps first and you don't care about customization/functionality then go with the iPhone.
But if you want the full freedom of customization + ALOT more functionality in core itself then get an Android like Galaxy S3 or HTC One X.
By the way i recommend you to watch series of 5 videos explaining why is Android better than iOS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMiY1kSTHZw
Having used both, i went with Android, all reasons summed up in the next paragraph, but feel free to read all the post:
With Android you adapt the device to your needs. With iOS you adapt yourself to the device's needs.
-budget
-ui customization: switch wifi, data, playlists, firewalls, or any adjustable feature with a single tap. No need to go to adjustments or browse trough menus.
-app integration: no more juggling between apps to do simple tasks. Browse a file, and you can alter it with any app that supports the file.
-file formats support: you cannot simply share a mp3 in iOS. You cannot download and edit any file in iOS.
-You cannot use your device as usb in iOS (having to set itunes and syncing for just adding a couple of songs or pics is retarded). No usb cable? Use wifi, 3g tethering or Bluetooth.
-copy and paste: files, folders, text, contacts, entire web pages or just selected content.
That's just the stock features, if you root your device then everything goes. Rooted android > jailbroken iphone by a million miles.
The more shady stuff:
-backup your system, switch phones, restore your system, just like nothing changed (not even game saved data)
-decide what information the apps can access. This includes contact data, imei, sim number, imsi number, 3g, wifi, and any personal info.
-like a song? Download it directly with your phone, for free. Same with youtube videos.
-piracy, yup, good piracy on android, wouldn't recommend it, but its there, like everything else Android is about choice.
-speaking of piracy, torrent downloads.
-ported apps. Good luck trying to get your iphone3 run some apps (mostly games) for the iphone5 or iphone4s. I own a galaxy mini, that can run games for galaxy s3 because someone ported them.
-emulators: nintendo, play station, dos.
-terminal emulator: speak directly to the OS, tell it what to do, watch the magic happen.
-wifikill: nuff said.
Finally hardware:
-i just gave my old android to my cousin, he openned it, changed sims, and that was it, in less than 2 minutes. No warranty lost, no need for screwdrivers, no specially shaped sim cards, no need to get a contract or activate or any of that crap.
-battery sucks cuz its old? Same as above, open it, put new battery in, close it.
-the best for the last. Take that cheap plastic android phone, drop it, all parts go flying out, so just put it back together, maybe the plastic chipped. Drop that metal and glass iphone, cry at the cracked screen and chipped edges.
That being said, if you want a solid phone that just works get the new iphone, you won't regret it, but chances are you paid 500 bucks for beastly hardware you'll never get to use at its fullest (how many processors do you really need if all you do is change the wallpaper, browse fb and play some games!?)
Android is best simply because it does everything Apple does and more.
You have to void your warranty just to install an app that didn't come from the market to your phone - YOUR PHONE!
You never truly own an iPhone, you simply LEASE IT and in doing so you must follow the terms
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ChongoDroid said:
LOL smh.. Just get an iPhone and be done with it. If you need to ask then it's better to be in the walled garden.. LOL next thing he's gonna ask why have root? Da appz still not smooth as iPhonez why do I needz rootz?
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daveid said:
I agree 100%, why do you want us to convince you to do something you don't seem inclined towards? Buy the iPhone, solid choice, if that is your desire and it fills your needs. I find these posts kind of pointless, are people really looking for others to justify their purchases, or just trying to start another Android vs. IOS war....
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scorpio09 said:
+1.
Just to show few examples of why is Android better and why this is called open os, watch out the video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMiY1kSTHZw&sns=em
Jellybean is smooth like butter and has better features than iOS. Crappy iTunes took up >50GB for its app backups on my PC.
Almost all apps are available on both os. In fact I find more useful ones like Tasker, Timeriffic.. etc in Android. Tell us few apps which are only available for iOS without which you can't live with Android.
It's individual perception but I think Android is best os for hundreds of reasons..
Edit: Forgot to mention Google Music(20000 songs storage) , Google Now (much much better than crappy Siri), Google Navigation, Google Maps and last but not the least XDA and the community
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The reason that I'm asking is because everyone around me tells me that android is better but than I use one of my friends iphone(that think iphone is better)and I see how easy it is to use,for example ig I quit from an app and want return
to the app I just click twice on home button and there all the apps that runing found so I don't need to search in the menu for my apps.in android there is somthing like that but it does it with recently apps and not open apps(and it has a limit place in the recent apps).
I don't want to buy a phone that I will sorry I for buying it,this is why I asked not because I want to cause an iphone vs android war..
Thanks for everyone who answered and helped
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kfirbep said:
to the app I just click twice on home button and there all the apps that runing found so I don't need to search in the menu for my apps.in android there is somthing like that but it does it with recently apps and not open apps(and it has a limit place in the recent apps).
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Perhaps you tried an older version of android. As of 4.0, there is no more limit to the number of recent apps.
The "open apps" in iOS is, in fact, a misnomer. It's similarly a list of recent apps. Indeed, most iOS apps aren't even allowed to be "open" for more than 5 seconds before being forced into suspension. Android, on the other hand, has more flexible multitasking abilities. See the following article for details on both:
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/112013-how-multitasking-works-on-android-and-ios
Did you said apple has more apps than android huh??
we should polite enough to press thanks for everyone helped uS..
you are dead when you stop learning new things..
Customization. Anything you don't like about your Android device you can change. You can even make it look like an iphone if you wish. That's really why I can't use an ios device
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Android - true flexibilty with any data sync, user modification to ur own hearts content, unlimited storage capacity through sdcards and cloud syncing and much much more. Iphone doesnt even come close to androids capabilities, plain and simple.
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Let's just put it this way. My android device looks 100 times better then any iPhone that has ever come out(because every iPhone looks the same). My android phone acts like a phone and has never had 1 problem since it came out (not like the iPhone where they failed to admit to their antenna problems). IOS looks like **** compared to the UI of android.
In short, this is why cry babies of apple want to sue android, because all in all they know that android is superior in every way
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Maybe I posted this in the wrong section,so sorry,asking to Zecanilis . Do anyone have an iPhone here? If so,anyone can tell why Android/iOS is better? I don't wanna know it,wanna know your opinions only
So,I prefer Android because it's opensource p) and because it's more "customizable" ha
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Wow, why do we need a topic like this ? Sorry, but if you write this on Google you can find thousands of them. This will only end with flames and fights. Nothing useful.
badeaioan said:
Wow, why do we need a topic like this ? Sorry, but if you write this on Google you can find thousands of them. This will only end with flames and fights. Nothing useful.
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Yeah,infact I firstly posted and already-existing thread and I had to change thread theme. I apologize for this but what could I do?
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Actually, I like such threads, because they remind macfa...uh....macfans D) to keep quiet when it comes to comparisons to Android. Android is superior from almost any point of view.
metalboy94 said:
Actually, I like such threads, because they remind macfa...uh....macfans D) to keep quiet when it comes to comparisons to Android. Android is superior from almost any point of view.
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Yeah. But... I have to admit,for me AppStore games are better
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adobe ceo has said that apple can only dream of flash coming to ios because they are simply not going to make adobe flash of ios...
this is BIG + for android...
ciaox said:
Yeah. But... I have to admit,for me AppStore games are better
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Care to explain why? 'Cause both AppStore and Android Market contain their fair share of crap.
@ccdreadcc: True, although with the advent of HTML5 I'm not sure how long Flash support will continue to be an advantage of Android...
Android wins do to notifications the apps not games there more intgrated with the os an its changeable u can change everything an make ur phone look diffrent an i enjoy that no 2 phones look the same an iphone there identical but they do have better games an browser is better with pinching an zooming but my sgs is a little faster with apps closed but with stuff runing its laggy an ios is mostly smooth all the time but they dont have real multi tasking
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this old comic tells everything LINK
soberspine said:
this old comic tells everything LINK
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Exacly its ur phone u can do wat u plz tphone(therephone) 4 its not yours but u payed 1million 4 it
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You honestly can't go wrong with either and really depends on what you like. Honestly, I think why iPhone sales are so high is because people are misinformed about the product. Everyone gets it because they have been told to or think its cool since everyone has one, but at the end of the day both operating systems can do the same or maybe better(android).
I'd say both have their plus points. I've got my O1, which is my first android device. I love the ability to customise each and every part of it. We are all fans of this OS, we already know how great it is
But what I don't like about android, is the lack of quality content on the market, specially for low end devices like ours. I've got an iPhone 3GS too, and when you access the appstore on it, there's lots of great stuff out there.
Another downside is the lack of software optimisation. We got great hardware, with ****ty software: not a great combination. For e.g. my old iPod Touch 2nd gen still runs every damn single game I put on it without a drop of lagging, whereas we all know what happens on our O1. If we did not have such great developers here, we wouldn't be enjoying our O1 that much. :/
And before someone says something like, "you got a weak device, you should buy a SGS2 or whatever to feel the true power of android," I got one thing to say: each and every one of apple's products are optimised directly from manufacturers, their users dont need to depend on external developers. We can't say that much about our devices though.
Well my experience with iOS comes from an iPod Touch 3rd Gen that I've owned for 1.5 years, and my experience with Android comes from my O1 that I've owned for 2 weeks.
As others have mentioned I love my O1 and I think that Android as an "OS" it's definitely great, and I believe that if we were to compare iOS Vs. ANDROID only at the "OS" level, the Android OS it's superior essentially because it's a powerful, open source OS that allows you to go under the hood and tweak it or improve it, whereas with iOS is just a black box that you access only through APIs published by the manufacturer.
The thing is that comparing OS to OS does not makes much sense to the end user since what's more important is comparing "The Experience" of owning and using a phone with iOS Vs a phone with ANDROID, and at that level I think that iOS/iPhone definitely provides a much solid, cohesive and overall better experience to the end user (at least from my point of view):
1-) On iOS the OS and the Hardware are "One", since we have one company that manufactures the hardware and builds and optimize the OS to run only on that hardware, providing a longer life cycle for your product since the strategy of the manufacturer (Apple) is not focused on launching a new model every 3-4 months (as it is with Android phone manufacturers). Apple's focus is actually selling as much of the same model as they can over a period of at least one year.
2-) The Appstore even though is much more restrictive (than the Market) provides a much more controlled and predictable experience for App Developers, because they only have to worry about complying with the guidelines established by their development platform, and not with developing an App that will have to run as good as possible on hardware created by 8 or 10 different manufactures who have 100+ different phone models. Volume becomes an issue and so far developers have more success selling a 99 cents app on the Appstore than selling a $5 app on the Market. Take a look at this post from a renowned Game Developer talking about his experience about porting a hit game on the Appstore to the Android Market
Bottom line is that it all comes down to the Apps more than the hardware itself (we know that phones like the Samsung Galaxy S2 beats the crap out of an iPhone 4 and basically anything else), but all that powerful hardware, dual core processors and beefy GPUs can't do much if quality Apps are not there to take advantage of it, and so far Apple has done a better job in creating a suitable environment for developers at all levels: Programming, Marketing, Billing and Post-Sales Support.
When it comes to consumers (us) I definetely prefer the android cause i'm not willing to pay a sh1tload of money to buy a marketing bloat product which targets to rip off the ignorant gudget fashion victums. I want to be able to have a smartphone for 200 euros and to be able to customize it and use it the way I want and not the way they want.
And I don't want to hear a thing about better games etc etc cause if I want games i'll go and buy a psp and the total amount of money for low/mid-end android + psp will still be conciderably lower than an apple icrap
I will write my opinion, but everybody has an unique opinion so it may not matter.
As stated above, iOs and the hardware of the iPhone are one, they are designed and built as an entity. The result is the most powerful phone. Apart from the antenna problem the iphone had, the phone is perfect. And it will still be. The single-core iPhone 4 runs as smooth as dual-core android phones. Because android phones took everything that was good in linux, but also what is bad.
Android is for the guys that like customization, playing with their devices. You will never have to jailbreak an iPhone, as it's os is godlike anyway. The nasty part is that most of appstore games cost $ and some people may not be so willing to pay for every app they have.
Apart from the price, ioS is better than android, and i consider that anyone who disagrees is just sad he can't afford an iphone.That doesn't mean android is not good, because it is excellent, but still not quite at the apple's product level. Peace
Well I have also tried iOS, I own an iPod Touch 2G (MC, so it's the newer iteration). Sure, there are quality games by Gameloft & co. on the AppStore which also run alright on the iPod, but on 4.2 it gets really slow if you have any other tweaks on it, or if you activated multitasking and wallpapers.
What would definitely improve the Android experience is Gameloft getting their head out of their @ss and port their great games to lower-end devices as well. I really can't see what's the problem with minimum requirements for CPU and RAM if they really think 320x480 games would confuse customers, due to it being the most popular Android low-end resolution.
Other than that, Android is better than iOS simply because it allows you to do more stuff without hacks. First and foremost, the ability to use the phone as a mass storage device (Google should allow mass storage without additional drivers, it would be useful in certain situations, such as at school, where computers are usually blocked from installing drivers ).
@vador9: Sorry mate, but you're just as much of a d*ck as the other Apple fans. I can afford an iPhone, but that doesn't mean I WANT to spend that much money. Partly because the only reason for that price is the glass in it.
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Well I have also tried iOS, I own an iPod Touch 2G (MC, so it's the newer iteration). Sure, there are quality games by Gameloft & co. on the AppStore which also run alright on the iPod, but on 4.2 it gets really slow if you have any other tweaks on it, or if you activated multitasking and wallpapers.
What would definitely improve the Android experience is Gameloft getting their head out of their @ss and port their great games to lower-end devices as well. I really can't see what's the problem with minimum requirements for CPU and RAM if they really think 320x480 games would confuse customers, due to it being the most popular Android low-end resolution.
Other than that, Android is better than iOS simply because it allows you to do more stuff without hacks. First and foremost, the ability to use the phone as a mass storage device (Google should allow mass storage without additional drivers, it would be useful in certain situations, such as at school, where computers are usually blocked from installing drivers ).
@vador9: Sorry mate, but you're just as much of a d*ck as the other Apple fans. I can afford an iPhone, but that doesn't mean I WANT to spend that much money. Partly because the only reason for that price is the glass in it.
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You can actually do Mass Storage without the drivers.
And please, do not insult any other forum members. Whatever his opinion may be, its his, it should be respected. Its only a sharing of opinion, not a war.
Android has a great user interface, its highly customisable, it offers whatever someone may want. It's just that rare are the devices which really makes android look so good.
To explain this, I'll take the example of our fabulous O1. Forget about the pricing, let's just analyse the phone in itself: a nice phone, with great features, and a wonderful OS. The OS can do pretty much everything. Now where is the problem? LG, LG is the problem. I agree we paid for a low end phone, but that doesnt mean it should contain ****ty bugs, like the screen lag for example. Even with gingerbread out, it still has not been solved.
Its often the device which holds many a problems, not the OS. This is where iOS has an advantage, it's been used only on a couple of devices, and both the devices and the OS are manufactured by the same company. This causes a great optimisation. For example again, on any iOS device you may not be able to send a file via bluetooth properly (limited by the OS), but you have a smooth touchscreen with no lag at all and you almost never have an error popping up now and then (from the manufacturer).
Moreover, when we say "Appstore offers a larger range of quality apps than that of Android Market", its not just about games. Often basic apps are of much lower quality on the Market, e.g. compare the Facebook app on both platform, and you'll see that the Android version is weak.
Overall:
Android wins when it comes to customisation and performance (provided you have a good device), and iOS has an upper hand when it comes to best user experience and high quality apps
( ) iPhone
( ) iPad
( ) iPad 2
( ) iPod Touch
(✔) iDon't have money
(Certainly not for overpriced hype from a vendor whose customer attitude is way worse than Microsoft's )
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You can? Please enlighten me, I thought it really needed the LG Android drivers for that.
Also, he insulted us first, by implying we all are too poor to get iPhones and that's why we're jealous and say iOS is worse.
https://plus.google.com/10083827609...aJRGS#100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
Any dev's or knowledgeable people want to take a crack at this? Is it based in fact, fiction, or irrelevant?
IDK, some things made since and some didnt. The whole writup seemed to be based on iOs vs. Android on scrolling. If you break down what iOs is, its an app launcher. Android is a home screen with live widgets and information. A true comparison would be Androids app page vs. iOs since both would be app launchers.
I never understood why people try and compare apples to oranges... or in this case, an app launcher to a 5 page home screen with tons of live information on it.
I think the guy was pretty clear on identifying bias and also gaugeing how factual his claimes are. I believe him and am confident that the corrections have made it Accurate.
The last post is true. Apple has locked down and simplified their os in the sake of smoothness. Where android has opted to provide a mors content rich experiance.
But at the same time hardware fragmentation is huge, ik he says that no matter how powerful the phones get this is a limitatikn, there is a huge problem with the fact that... Some procs. Support neon and other optimizations while ofhers don't. More often than not, app devs write their apps for the least powerful in an attempt to capture everyone, in the end, the most powerful loose out on the true potential of their device.
Look at push for example, most apps that i see still have bruit force check every 5 min type notifications even though android now has push. this is getting fixed, but slowly.
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I think the biggest problem android faces is the carriers. Buy an iPhone and there is zero carrier crap installed. Buy android and bloaty mcfatty land.
Thanks to xda development we can purge this crap (revs you rock!), but for the vast majority this is akin to voodoo and they would never attempt it.
As such android gets a bad rap. If the carriers would just be content with having their names on the phone and nothing else I posit that there would be globally better view of android. Just my two cents.
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I think the biggest problem android faces is the carriers. Buy an iPhone and there is zero carrier crap installed. Buy android and bloaty mcfatty land.
Thanks to xda development we can purge this crap (revs you rock!), but for the vast majority this is akin to voodoo and they would never attempt it.
As such android gets a bad rap. If the carriers would just be content with having their names on the phone and nothing else I posit that there would be globally better view of android. Just my two cents.
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I thought it was just the United States carriers that did this?
But, as android is an open model it opens up possibilities for carriers to customize the devices as they wish at little to no cost, also, allowing them to install apps to earn sidestreamed revenue.
I hate the carrier branding on my phone. I really really wish there was a way to get the AT&T logo off my phone.
The only place I'd allow it is the sim card.
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I hate the carrier branding on my phone. I really really wish there was a way to get the AT&T logo off my phone.
The only place I'd allow it is the sim card.
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That's what you and I and many others in US pay for a subsidized phone.
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But my unsubsidized Galaxy Tab 10.1 wi-fi is still laggy as hell. It's not the fault of carrier bloatware. Android OS is the one to blame. My WP7 phones runing a single core 1GHz Sanpdragon is much more smoother than any Android phones I owned, including the GS2.
No lag problems with my 10.1...
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I think the biggest problem android faces is the carriers. Buy an iPhone and there is zero carrier crap installed. Buy android and bloaty mcfatty land.
Thanks to xda development we can purge this crap (revs you rock!), but for the vast majority this is akin to voodoo and they would never attempt it.
As such android gets a bad rap. If the carriers would just be content with having their names on the phone and nothing else I posit that there would be globally better view of android. Just my two cents.
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Bingo! This is exactly what I have thought for years. Buy an unlocked Nexus S if you doubt this at all and you'll see a different Android. Or, root your phone, flash a vanilla rom and install something like ADWLauncher EX and set it to "fast". Once all the crap and skin is wiped, my current GS2 switches tasks and pages so fast that sometimes I can't even see it happen. I literally burned my hand the other day on my phone.
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Bingo! This is exactly what I have thought for years. Buy an unlocked Nexus S if you doubt this at all and you'll see a different Android. Or, root your phone, flash a vanilla rom and install something like ADWLauncher EX and set it to "fast". Once all the crap and skin is wiped, my current GS2 switches tasks and pages so fast that sometimes I can't even see it happen. I literally burned my hand the other day on my phone.
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What I really can't get my head around is how AT&T can think that people want their ****ty apps. They are an embarrassment.
I'm no expert, but I think that some of the apps that are on our phones out-of-box are there so that the price of the phone can be driven shown a bit more. It makes sense that AT&T would have agreements with the app makers to get money for including their app. Maybe they use that revenue to offset the overhead of distributing the device and pass that savings along to their customers.
I'm certainly not defending what they do, but just saying that could be a reason why some of this crapware is pre-installed.
Another way to look at it would be that many of the apps cost money to use. They will enroll you in some service you don't need (AT&T Nav, Live TV, etc.). Then they can steal from us by placing these little services onto our plan to be billed monthly. I have worked in customer care for one of "the big four" carriers and they would train us to employ similar tactics to trick existing customers into buying stuff. They're really like fat leaches attached to the inside of our wallets.
I have a focus and a gs2. Yes wp7 scrolls the home screen, notice I say screen since there is only one, smooth as silk. The animations are also very smooth but way too much and slowwww. Where you see the difference is in apps. Hell rebooting my focus takes forever. The engadget app and lazy tube app on wp7 really make the phone stutter and freeze. I have iPhones, winphones and androids and in my experience the gs2 is by far the fastest phone i own by a large margin. I still love the iPhone and winphone btw. The winphone is a first Gen device so it's performance is damned impressive. The animations and how slow it scrolls webpages/long lists annoy me. In android if you flick down a list real fast it goes like lightning, on the winphone it has a governor of sorts and I find myslef constantly trying to get it to scroll faster.
I know it sounds like I'm crapping on the winphone but that's not the case. It really is a cool os handbills recommend trying it out. I got a used focus for next to nothing.
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Again, people are comparing apples to oranges... an app launcher (or in WinMo case, an app launcher with really large app links) to a multi-page homescreen with live information.
Try this, use the App launcher in Android and scroll back and fourth, up and down and now compare it to iOs or WinMo. YA, NOW THEY SCROLL THE SAME!!!
If you feel that your home screen is laggy, then either get a new launcher, or dont put any widgets/icons/shorcuts/pictures/ANYTHING on your home screen.
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But my unsubsidized Galaxy Tab 10.1 wi-fi is still laggy as hell. It's not the fault of carrier bloatware. Android OS is the one to blame. My WP7 phones runing a single core 1GHz Sanpdragon is much more smoother than any Android phones I owned, including the GS2.
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You shouldve exchanged that GS2. I guarantee it would/should kick wp7 in its ass in terms of performance.
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You shouldve exchanged that GS2. I guarantee it would/should kick wp7 in its ass in terms of performance.
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No you can't. Obviously you don't own a WP7. All Android phones I handled (BTW, my co-worker has another GS2, same deal) are no where near the smoothness of year old (with two year old single core Snapdragon) Samsung Focus in terms of home screen smoothness. When it comes to lag and stutters, I'm writing it off as the necessary evil I have to deal with if I'm going to use any Android devices. Too those who deny it, you need to go out and play with other platforms like WP7 or iPhone to understand what is lag.
I like Android. Thus I'm on my second Android Phone and even own an Android tablet. But to deny the obvious and inherent flaw in the OS is either ignorant or pure fanboyism.
Remember, I'm purely talking about home screen. When it comes to app, a lot of other factors come into play and CPU speed does make a difference. Home screen is where we spent most time and most complaint about lag is about.
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No you can't. Obviously you don't own a WP7. All Android phones I handled (BTW, my co-worker has another GS2, same deal) are no where near the smoothness of year old (with two year old single core Snapdragon) Samsung Focus in terms of home screen smoothness. When it comes to lag and stutters, I'm writing it off as the necessary evil I have to deal with if I'm going to use any Android devices. Too those who deny it, you need to go out and play with other platforms like WP7 or iPhone to understand what is lag.
I like Android. Thus I'm on my second Android Phone and even own an Android tablet. But to deny the obvious and inherent flaw in the OS is either ignorant or pure fanboyism.
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Opening apps in WP7 has a considerable delay too. The WP7 homescreen is nothing, but a start menu. The live tile functionality really isn't there yet.
Yes, app loading is slow on first version of WP7 but it has greatly improved since then. What's the point of a great home screen when it lags like hell? GS2 is much better than my Captivate as well as my GTab 10.1. But I can still feel some slight lagness. My GTab 10.1 is almost unusable until 3.2 ROM released. Android's only saving grace right now is the raw processing power increase of the new phones that hides these inherent flaws in the OS. Google, or its partners, still has a long way to go to improve the UX of Android OS.
He's kinda had his heart set on a new iphone, coming from a 3GS and a Mac user.
I think he'd be smart to make the jump now to Droid, and if he was able to pull the trigger i think he'd never look back. He can get a new Skyrocket refurb for $150 less than the 4S he wants. He's broke so the savings alone should be huge for him! But you know how it is when you get your mind set on something like this. He's also pretty savy, so i think he'd figure out everything he wants to do. He thinks iphone will sync better with his mac and everything he wants to do already.
one thing that will make him think about it - tell him that the iphone doesnt have any porn applications,free or paid NADA....iphone is for kids 13yo below.
android has it all...u name it.
Free mp3 sharing sites on Android market. Never pay iTunes again....that alone made my 14 year old switch.
If her friend bought a cd and wants to share a song, Droid does....iTunes can't....
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meh, he's too set on iphone, since he has a mac. he wouldn't even take the free 30 day trial i told him he could have. lame
Can't really say much. You yourself said he already has a fixed mindset. Tbh iPhone does have the advantage when it comes to syncing. Personally, if it wasn't for Android's crazy level of customization, I would've gone with an iPhone. But that was the past. Its just too expensive. Especially without a plan.
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tell him to enjoy the thousands of fart apps
Can you take the battery out or upgrade the memory via sd yet?
How about customise to your liking via themes?
Oh sorry, nevermind, iPhone SUX!
Some people will want the iPhone no matter how much you tell them about alternatives, they are buying it based on brand loyalty only. But here are most Android device advantages:
Hardware:
-Replaceable battery
-Expandable Memory (microSD)
-Non-proprietary charging/usb cable (microUSB)
-Better specs for cheaper than iPhone
The OS itself allows more customization with widgets, launchers, keyboards, etc. So even if you hate the default look it can easily be changed without rooting/flashing. Adobe flash, even though its being discontinued, is great for the full internet experience at least until HTML5 deployment catches up.
This probably doesn't apply since he has a Mac, but I hate iTunes on Windows. It feels bloated and runs useless background processes wasting resources. I keep it off my computers. I'm not sure how iPhones sync better. I can download apps from the market to my Android phone from a browser. I sync music with a small batch file that I made which uses xcopy to sync the two directories, its a lot faster than iTunes.
I guess I'm in the minority here but if he's used to iphone and mac, and got his heart set on 4S maybe its best for him to get what he wants rather than what the majority think is better for him.
As a mac and older gen iphone user he is used to that and it is easier for apple products to connect together than android with apple, if he isn't looking at other phones he is probably not ready to make a switch anyway.
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the iphone is a good product if you are into a limited scope of activities and do not want to learn how to use something that is a little less intuative. If I got my wife a galaxy nexus she would hate it. She wants to turn it on, send a text, make a call, and check her facebook. for users in that class the iphone is the easiest way to go
- iphone's ugly looking waterdrop theme, lifeless, static icons, the entire interface is from the past and feels cheap - like a toy. ice cream sandwich is lightyears ahead in styles und functionality.
- caged. man you cant do anything. my droid remotely controls my dslr (iphone does too, with a laptop in between, duh), locates cables in my walls when i need to drill holes, measures my sleep patterns and wakes me outside REM-phases or sends messages into REM for lucid-dreaming/astral-travel, etc. android is full freedom, everything the device is capable of android allows. iphone is a brick, i'd be bored to heck playing angry birds all day.
- it's inability to change keyboard. most iphone users i know haven't even heard of swype. they need ages to get simple texts done or they reduce their typing to a minimum. i laugh when i see them sweating hard tapping out texts - it's a stone age thing to do really. so apple decides what's good and what's not, you have to bite the bullet and use a typing technology that was never meant to be used on a device as tiny as a smartphone. it's keyboard renders it use-less.
- multitasking on android is awesome. droid's getting real-time facebook msg's, whatsapp, skype calls, voip calls, mail, bluetooth walkitalki, company mail, dropbox, just about every service in the net. everythings coming in nicely through subtle push-notifications. personally i have stopped using countless of programs on my laptop and the browser can go screw itself, phone is collecting everything with ease wherever i go. iphone users are not even close to that experience, again coz apple has crippled the device. they argue battery power, but what the heck, one day or two at max is fine, recharging is fast.
convinced my girlfriend to drop her apple.
Don't convince him to get anything. If he hates it it's now your fault.
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Instead of convincing him, which can be a pain since he's hardcore Apple products, do yourself a favor by getting a Samsung Galaxy S2.
Hop on the SGS2 xda forum and switch ROMs weekly.
That's way he will see your new Android phone, new look, new launcher, cool features, 'til he gets envy and jumps ship
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Instead of convincing him, which can be a pain since he's hardcore Apple products, do yourself a favor by getting a Samsung Galaxy S2.
Hop on the SGS2 xda forum and switch ROMs weekly.
That's way he will see your new Android phone, new look, new launcher, cool features, 'til he gets envy and jumps ship
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There's nothing envious about that.
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Don't try to convince hi because he may regret it and be pissed that you talked him into it. The iphone has a ton of games for ppl his age. Also he doesn't have to suffer the lag android has that will irritate him. Also the post in this thread are dumb because a jailbroken iphone does everything a rooted android does except for custom roms. I do find both apple and android fans don't know crap about the others platform and just spread false info.
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Don't try to convince hi because he may regret it and be pissed that you talked him into it. The iphone has a ton of games for ppl his age. Also he doesn't have to suffer the lag android has that will irritate him. Also the post in this thread are dumb because a jailbroken iphone does everything a rooted android does except for custom roms. I do find both apple and android fans don't know crap about the others platform and just spread false info.
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You make good sense but regarding jailbroken iphones doing all a rooted android can do I'm sure that must be wrong.
For example on a non rooted android you can change launcher completely, have full automation using apps like tasker (eg when I'm at home turn wifi on but when at cinema go silent, auto answer calls and when films finished book me a taxi etc).
You can also change keyboard completely for example, use widgets, put toggle switches in notification bar and so on. I know at least the tasker type automation isn't possible as that's an ios restriction that stops that so at least one thing I can do on stock android a jb iphone can't.
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Don't waste your time. Do you really want to support his device should he end up getting an Android? Tell him to go through all the guides/rooting/flashing if he doesn't like stock?
Just let your bro get the iPhone, he might hate you for convincing him to get an Android after it starts locking up, randomly rebooting and draining battery like crazy. Your brother might also enjoy timely software updates and well design apps with consistent UI.
To be honest, I have been back and forth from Iphone 4 to Samsung Galaxy s2 over the last few months.
The ability to change, customise and tweak everything on Android has its pro's and cons. fun but takes over your life, especially when you get into Rom flashing, I swapped my SGS2 a few weeks back for another Iphone 4, I thought I had managed to quell my addiction to Android...Alas nope, I am returning yet again, OK things run along all well and good on the iOs not too many hiccups, all nice and dandy, dandy andnnnnzzzzzzzz zzzzz arrrghhh I woke up, yes the Iphone can become a little tedious to say the least.
I think iOs is brilliant on the IPAD, Android Pads just don't come close in my opinion, but for the phones there is such an amazing choice and the SGS2 is similar in style to the Iphone. There just is not a community like this one for the Iphone except for trawling through the Itunes clunky market...Androids market you can faff about on anywhere on any computer and it syncs directly to your phone, even if you dont have it with you...Google is better synced with Android and facebook on Android is far better with many more options, twitter notifications work on Android, rarely do on iOs and to top it all of Scramble has just been released for Android yesterday, so there are no more excuses
alex2792 said:
Just let your bro get the iPhone, he might hate you for convincing him to get an Android after it starts locking up, randomly rebooting and draining battery like crazy. Your brother might also enjoy timely software updates and well design apps with consistent UI.
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Do you actually have an android phone? Mine does none of that other than use battery quick which is lg's fault for putting a crap battery on a powerful phone.
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I'm going back to iphone.
This thing force closes way too much.... I know rooting and custom ROM can address some of it but I feel iphone is still optimized better than android. OK maybe I don't know but I just never had any issues with their hardware or apps.
Yeah I guess I'm not the type of person who really appreciates customization capability. I realized ONLY thing I like about this particular android is the large screen.
Sorry this is just a bad morning and my android is acting all ****ed up. Happens way too often.
If you are new to Android coming from the iPhone then you'll feel that way for a bit. I did miss my iPhone but once these awesome devs clear up some bugs you'll be really happy....if you like customizing. I couldn't stand iTunes so once I got around the noobness point, Android is so much nicer. The iPhone is more for people that just want to push an icon like my wife and kids.
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Thats wierd, im stock and i rarely get any force closes. Usually the only FC's i get are due to apps on their end. I love how everyone always says how the apple apps never crash, blah blah blah. I guess stupid tech will always have its place
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I'm going back to iphone.
This thing force closes way too much.... I know rooting and custom ROM can address some of it but I feel iphone is still optimized better than android. OK maybe I don't know but I just never had any issues with their hardware or apps.
Yeah I guess I'm not the type of person who really appreciates customization capability. I realized ONLY thing I like about this particular android is the large screen.
Sorry this is just a bad morning and my android is acting all ****ed up. Happens way too often.
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Yea if you are stock you shouldn't have too many problems. The beauty of the xda forum is you can tell us your problem and people get together to help solve it. Id rather use xda than talk to a genius any day.
Tell us what's wrong so we can help you.
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Most likely a bad device.
I have had mine since mid December...all stock, only updates via Kies.
It's been more stable than 2.2.2 on my Dell Streak.
As for a 5" iPhone, well, Jobs is gone so anything is possible.
You watch though...if Apple comes out with a screen anywhere near the
size of 5", the iphone fanbois will trumpet it out that it is an innovation and
the best thing in the world LOL.
lol you do realize stuff crashes consistantly on the iphone it just doesnt tell you right?
Force Closes are from improperly written apps. this happens, there are so many varients in the Android world it is hard to keep up with the changes.
Apple has a set screen size depending on the device, Android has many different screen sizes.
If you like to DUMB down then go back to the iPhone.
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I'm going back to iphone.
This thing force closes way too much.... I know rooting and custom ROM can address some of it but I feel iphone is still optimized better than android. OK maybe I don't know but I just never had any issues with their hardware or apps.
Yeah I guess I'm not the type of person who really appreciates customization capability. I realized ONLY thing I like about this particular android is the large screen.
Sorry this is just a bad morning and my android is acting all ****ed up. Happens way too often.
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First I was gonna tell you "see ya", but I guess I'll say that I have no, not one, force close and my device is closer to me than wrist watch or glasses... My device functions this way because I read about everyone else problems and solutions and either avoid the base situation, or utilize the communities experiences for the solution... Our Android family bought our grandfather an iPhone because of his age... Lmao. Does that tell you anything? If you must go then thanks for stopping by, but if you can stay, we will do our level best to match your enthusiasm and drive...
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i'd be very happy with a g note running webos .that would be great
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i'd be very happy with a g note running webos .that would be great
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Blasphemy
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ferchope said:
i'd be very happy with a g note running webos .that would be great
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lol! you must not need apps at all
astang99 said:
Thats wierd, im stock and i rarely get any force closes. Usually the only FC's i get are due to apps on their end. I love how everyone always says how the apple apps never crash, blah blah blah. I guess stupid tech will always have its place
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There was actually a study published a few months ago that showed that major iPhone apps actually crash more often than their Android counterparts; however, since the iPhone doesn't display a message to the user when that happens, and it doesn't give the users an option to report the crash, most iPhone users perceive fewer crashes. (In other words, they simply think that they must have hit the Home or Close buttons since all the iPhone does is crash back to their homescreens).
The second theory on why this is the case is that it's much easier and faster to release app updates on Android markets. Android devs can easily roll out responsive updates while iPhone devs have to submit every single update to Apple's ridiculous approval process.
Story here:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/
The truth will set you free.
I've been running the I717 since day one and I've gotten exactly 1 FC from a weird app I downloaded. once I deleted it I was good. Try doing a factory reset and start fresh. download apps that have 4 or more stars. My phone has been a champ from day one with all the crap I throw at it (not even screen slowdowns like some are reporting). If you don't like it, you don't like it, there's no harm in that. All I know is my Ipod frustrates me something fierce when I use it so irritations go both ways. Hope you stick around, the stock ICS should be wandering through in the next couple of months. If you don't want to wait, I hear there's awesome Roms of ICS already. check it out.
I'm going back to iPhone as soon as someone trades me back on CL
What I've had from start to finish? Tilt, Touch Pro 2, G1, BB 8120, BB FLIP, G1, 3GS, Vibrant, EVO, Hero, Epic, EVO, Nexus S, the sprint WP7 can't recall name, EVO, Epic, EVO, EVO3D, 4S Sprint, 4S AT&T, Note AT&T.
I am the most unbiased person possible.
I switched from the iPhone back to Android because the screen was annoying for Draw Something, the edges on the phone are somewhat sharp & annoyed me in long typing sessions, no LTE.
What I've experienced on the Note, & why I said when I went back to the iPhone after the EVO3D that I would never go back to Android: LAG.
What good is customization if everything lags. What's the point of customization anyway? It's not like a computer that has incredible battery life & the customization is actually useful. It's just pretty widgets & UI mods.
I'm also shocked at how many ads are in the free apps compared to years ago.
Anyway, I'll go back to my sound app ecosystem with no lag. On top of that, the apps seem to run a lot smoother & take advantage of the A5 dual core vs the dual core in the Note.
+ I've spent way too much $$ on apps for iOS LOL. Sure I could get some for free on Android, but some simply aren't avail. Some I would have to buy again. Unfortunately, they all run better on iOS.
I will miss the s pen functions (and the Sammy cameras always seem better - I am disappointed by the 4S camera), but I'll survive. The only Android I want is the ASUS Padphone or an ASUS tablet (I had the Transformer #1 for a month, oh & of course I've had an iPad in the past, but prefer the Android tablet OS)
I haven't had an fc since i flashed team perfections latest pics rom. IPhones might be solid but they're so damn boring and plain
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Then Samsung should sue them for "copying"
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I feel like the microwave has screwed everything up. Of something takes a half second to open, we're screaming lag!!!
I like tech stuff but it's still a phone.
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I'm not talking about waiting for things to open.. I'm talking about stutter lag & multiple second to go back to the home screen lag. Legitimate lag.
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I'm not talking about waiting for things to open.. I'm talking about stutter lag & multiple second to go back to the home screen lag. Legitimate lag.
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In my experience with android devices the major culprit for lag is on screen widgets that update. If you set up your device like ios with nothing but apps you will see no lag. If you use widgets and stuff you might redraw.
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reyderosquillas said:
I'm going back to iPhone as soon as someone trades me back on CL
What I've had from start to finish? Tilt, Touch Pro 2, G1, BB 8120, BB FLIP, G1, 3GS, Vibrant, EVO, Hero, Epic, EVO, Nexus S, the sprint WP7 can't recall name, EVO, Epic, EVO, EVO3D, 4S Sprint, 4S AT&T, Note AT&T.
I am the most unbiased person possible.
I switched from the iPhone back to Android because the screen was annoying for Draw Something, the edges on the phone are somewhat sharp & annoyed me in long typing sessions, no LTE.
What I've experienced on the Note, & why I said when I went back to the iPhone after the EVO3D that I would never go back to Android: LAG.
What good is customization if everything lags. What's the point of customization anyway? It's not like a computer that has incredible battery life & the customization is actually useful. It's just pretty widgets & UI mods.
I'm also shocked at how many ads are in the free apps compared to years ago.
Anyway, I'll go back to my sound app ecosystem with no lag. On top of that, the apps seem to run a lot smoother & take advantage of the A5 dual core vs the dual core in the Note.
+ I've spent way too much $$ on apps for iOS LOL. Sure I could get some for free on Android, but some simply aren't avail. Some I would have to buy again. Unfortunately, they all run better on iOS.
I will miss the s pen functions (and the Sammy cameras always seem better - I am disappointed by the 4S camera), but I'll survive. The only Android I want is the ASUS Padphone or an ASUS tablet (I had the Transformer #1 for a month, oh & of course I've had an iPad in the past, but prefer the Android tablet OS)
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Interesting observations. Honestly I see my Ipod lag a whole lot more than my note (or even my streak) with much much fewer apps. I mean I use my ipod for pandora, email and rage comics and running all three at once it lags something fierce. I can do all that with my note plus play temple run and not see a stutter. As for the in app adverts, apple is just as bad, but the funnier thing is, the ration of paid vs free apps in IOS is a lot higher in favor of paid apps than in android, which is probably why you see fewer ads in IOS. One thing I noticed with IOS is most apps, especially the free ones, rarely have over 3 stars, makes me wonder if they're really worth the time... All I know is, between IOS and android, I prefer android hands down, I can customize my UI how I want to, I can have widgets if I'd like and do virtually whatever I want with it. if you want I can talk with my buddy to see if he'll trade his 4S strait across for your note.
Both are the OS makers flagships, seems like a fair comparison compared to other android phones. Anyone thought about going for the new Iphone(6s) and chose the nexus instead?
-I've always had Android smartphones(and mostly the flagships), and thought about trying iOS for the first time with the Iphone 6s, but after 5min with a friend's Iphone 6 I decided I can't deal with no back and recent menu buttons.
What about you guys? do you feel android is superior to iOS in every subject? Personally I feel the app support and API there are better, but thats about it
Lol, did you just wake up after 5 years of hibernate and out of the blue decided to compare Android to ios?
What's the point in this comparison ?
Will it make you choose iPhone over? What are you doing here then? Isn't iPhone forum a better place for you to fetch the info?
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Both are the OS makers flagships, seems like a fair comparison compared to other android phones. Anyone thought about going for the new Iphone(6s) and chose the nexus instead?
-I've always had Android smartphones(and mostly the flagships), and thought about trying iOS for the first time with the Iphone 6s, but after 5min with a friend's Iphone 6 I decided I can't deal with no back and recent menu buttons.
What about you guys? do you feel android is superior to iOS in every subject? Personally I feel the app support and API there are better, but thats about it
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You're absolutely spot on with this comparison. I've seen articles talking about Google taking shots at its "Android partners". I feel they are legitimately taking a shot at Apple. This is clear spec-wise. Pure Android vs ios. 6p for the win, lol.
You can't really compare these. The ecosystem differences mean too much to let the hardware drive the discussion. Plus it's just a flame war.
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Both are the OS makers flagships, seems like a fair comparison compared to other android phones. Anyone thought about going for the new Iphone(6s) and chose the nexus instead?
-I've always had Android smartphones(and mostly the flagships), and thought about trying iOS for the first time with the Iphone 6s, but after 5min with a friend's Iphone 6 I decided I can't deal with no back and recent menu buttons.
What about you guys? do you feel android is superior to iOS in every subject? Personally I feel the app support and API there are better, but thats about it
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6s is faster, A9 chip is better, battery life on ios is great because ios is so well optimized. Depends how you use your phone though. I was planning to switch to 6s because got tired of gps never working on android when I needed it, but on my note 5 gps locks right away so I resisted temptation.
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you are in the wrong place to talk about iphones on here kid
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You can't really compare these. The ecosystem differences mean too much to let the hardware drive the discussion. Plus it's just a flame war.
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This is the best answer, seriously. There's hardcore people in both camps that will "never switch back because blah blah blah".
I respect Apple, they make nice devices and their interface is very fluid. Android has come a LONG way and just suits me better. Personally the lack of a "back" button on iOS devices baffles me.
There are plenty of issues with IOS. Plenty of issues with Android as well. For me, Android works much better than IOS. I can't stand the home screen of folders and icons. Its like looking at nova's app list all day. Then on top of that there are device limitations like not being able to use my phones storage to move a file around like I would on a PC just drives me nuts. The way safari scrolls drives me nuts. Its one page at a time and that is it, scroll, stop, scroll, stop if I'm on a forum or skipping a couple of articles on a long tech site its annoying. Mail attachments, same file type limitations. No back button, no menu button etc etc. Their pressure gimmick reminds me of long press which again has been around forever. The list goes on and on.
Lets not mention inferior hardware, more expensive and while people from both groups can be insufferable I'll take an Android fanboi over an IOS one any day of the week.
Aridon said:
There are plenty of issues with IOS. Plenty of issues with Android as well. For me, Android works much better than IOS. I can't stand the home screen of folders and icons. Its like looking at nova's app list all day. Then on top of that there are device limitations like not being able to use my phones storage to move a file around like I would on a PC just drives me nuts. The way safari scrolls drives me nuts. Its one page at a time and that is it, scroll, stop, scroll, stop if I'm on a forum or skipping a couple of articles on a long tech site its annoying. Mail attachments, same file type limitations. No back button, no menu button etc etc. Their pressure gimmick reminds me of long press which again has been around forever. The list goes on and on.
Lets not mention inferior hardware, more expensive and while people from both groups can be insufferable I'll take an Android fanboi over an IOS one any day of the week.
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Hands down the best comment.
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I own an iPhone 6s Plus and a nexus 6 and have a 6p on order. Stil prefer the iPhone. iOS 9 Also has a back button while in apps now
Aridon said:
There are plenty of issues with IOS. Plenty of issues with Android as well. For me, Android works much better than IOS. I can't stand the home screen of folders and icons. Its like looking at nova's app list all day. Then on top of that there are device limitations like not being able to use my phones storage to move a file around like I would on a PC just drives me nuts. The way safari scrolls drives me nuts. Its one page at a time and that is it, scroll, stop, scroll, stop if I'm on a forum or skipping a couple of articles on a long tech site its annoying. Mail attachments, same file type limitations. No back button, no menu button etc etc. Their pressure gimmick reminds me of long press which again has been around forever. The list goes on and on.
Lets not mention inferior hardware, more expensive and while people from both groups can be insufferable I'll take an Android fanboi over an IOS one any day of the week.
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yup, great response. that's mostly why I've been with Android and then the nexus line since the early S2 days, and didn't switch to an Iphone. Thing is though, it doesn't matter how big Android gets(as it's already the biggest OS by far) it still seems like the apps support on iOS is better(which, from what I've read, is bc app dev claim Iphone revenue is ridiculously better then Android, even when android has more phones on the market).
So the only reason I always thought about making a switch is because of the apps catalog. They have more polished apps in general, way more enjoyable games etc and to those that may of noticed( probably most didn't) iOS still gets better support from big companies- mostly because they have more API support. For those that are using Vine/Snapchat etc from day one you'd know about the time difference it took for these(and many) other apps and in build features just to get to android, sometimes an update on iOS for an app gets to android months later. and that sadly still happens.
And I got to say I'm not one of those performance is everything guy and benchmark my phone the moment I get it, but hands down 2.5k on greekbench which is 2.5x then my Note 4 which is already fast is ridiculous. they do have some good engineers(..and the 810 couldn't even not overheat:silly: )
Edit: for those that love to argue over the internet, this is really not the place. People can have a discussion about a subject and not go directly into a flame war. Saying that an Iphone is better at some areas doesn't make me an iOS fanboy, and owning many Android phones(including previous nexuses) doesn't make me an Android fanboy(mostly, anyway ; ). Yes, I like android but I wouldn't bash competitioners just for the sake of it. And it's enjoyable to talk about technology and phones. that's the point of this thread - just for some previous comments I've seen.
Aridon said:
Lets not mention inferior hardware,.
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This one is not true.
Rest of your comment was
user822 said:
This one is not true.
Rest of your comment was
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Well for starters the Iphone has limited ram and it limits what it can do multi task wise. Which is why when people exit out of safari and open something else, say facetime many times the browser has to refresh when you go back to it. Same for other applications. There is less room to multitask on the Iphone. Yet you pay the same as another device with perhaps double the ram.
The retina display is inferior.
There are two pretty big items right there.
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This one is not true.
Rest of your comment was
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Other than cpu it is. Almost every android flagship dominates in every other category minus maybe build quality
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Aridon said:
Well for starters the Iphone has limited ram and it limits what it can do multi task wise. Which is why when people exit out of safari and open something else, say facetime many times the browser has to refresh when you go back to it. Same for other applications. There is less room to multitask on the Iphone. Yet you pay the same as another device with perhaps double the ram.
The retina display is inferior.
There are two pretty big items right there.
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My Note 5 has 4gb's of ram but my iPhone 6 Plus, with only 1gb of ram can keep way more apps open in the background without having to reload them. Don't get me wrong, I still prefer Android but more doesn't necessarily mean better.
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Aridon said:
Well for starters the Iphone has limited ram and it limits what it can do multi task wise. Which is why when people exit out of safari and open something else, say facetime many times the browser has to refresh when you go back to it. Same for other applications. There is less room to multitask on the Iphone. Yet you pay the same as another device with perhaps double the ram.
The retina display is inferior.
There are two pretty big items right there.
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Have you ever used a new iphone or you copy pasting comments from iphone 5 era?
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You can now accomplish most activities, apps & games on both platforms. You can get same work done on both platforms.
Today os platforms are more like Armani VS Gucci Vs Burberry etc. All will cover your body but decision in based on whose design you like.
Tiffany84 said:
My Note 5 has 4gb's of ram but my iPhone 6 Plus, with only 1gb of ram can keep way more apps open in the background without having to reload them. Don't get me wrong, I still prefer Android but more doesn't necessarily mean better.
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With Note 5's bloated touchwiz launcher/apps eating those RAM.. yeah I agree with you.
3gb RAM Nexus 6P running stock Android gonna blow both away in multitasking...
Ahh, the age old question. I'm mainly a Android user but like and use IOS also. When the iphone came out, I really wanted it, but I didn't get it because I didn't want to switch to AT&T. When my contract was up, a friend of mine told me to checkout the Nexus One. I've been hooked ever since.
I always find it funny when people start throwing specs around. Yes the Iphone has inferior specs, but that doesn't matter. The Iphone has always operated well with the hardware it had. There are a lot of things I like about Android over IOS but the specs were never something I worried about.