Screen turning on slowly - HTC Rezound

So I have noticed this with all of the roms I have flashed (can't remember if it happened with stock sense) but when my phone is asleep and I press the power button, the capacitive buttons turn on right away, yet the screen turns on around 2 seconds later. It's just annoying since my GF's Dinc 2 turns on instantly as well as my roommates DROID razr. Is this a Rezound thing or is my device just different? And if it's a Rezound thing is there any way to fix it, I have tried raising the minimum clock speed to over 1Ghz and still the lag persisted.
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Check the kernel. I have had this problem with certain custom kernels, and when I switched, it went away...
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happens on the stock rezound after ICS. GB was fine, iirc. sense 4 works a little better but HTC messed it up like usual lol
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Are there any kernels you would recommend that get rid of this problem and that I can run on an AOKP rom?
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I haven't played with aosp, but the Bamf kernel has a quick screen on on sense 4, and 3.6. I don't know if it works on the newer builds of aokp, or cm9.
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Dogbone737 said:
So I have noticed this with all of the roms I have flashed (can't remember if it happened with stock sense) but when my phone is asleep and I press the power button, the capacitive buttons turn on right away, yet the screen turns on around 2 seconds later. It's just annoying since my GF's Dinc 2 turns on instantly as well as my roommates DROID razr. Is this a Rezound thing or is my device just different? And if it's a Rezound thing is there any way to fix it, I have tried raising the minimum clock speed to over 1Ghz and still the lag persisted.
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Yeah this is annoying me as well.
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Its just an issue with HTC Sense. Annoying as hell but i guess it just has to be dealt with
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AshtonTS said:
Its just an issue with HTC Sense. Annoying as hell but i guess it just has to be dealt with
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It's slow on AOSP as well.
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AshtonTS said:
Its just an issue with HTC Sense. Annoying as hell but i guess it just has to be dealt with
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Even on an AOSP or CM9 Rom? I thought all traces of sense were removed for CM9 or AOSP.
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Dogbone737 said:
Even on an AOSP or CM9 Rom? I thought all traces of sense were removed for CM9 or AOSP.
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The kernel is built from HTC source with modifications.
It's probably fixable though.
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wlmeng11 said:
The kernel is built from HTC source with modifications.
It's probably fixable though.
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Yeah i would definitely say its a kernel issue, so itll be present in both aosp and sense. I agree its fixable tho
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AshtonTS said:
Its just an issue with HTC Sense. Annoying as hell but i guess it just has to be dealt with
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Yeah i would definitely say its a kernel issue, so itll be present in both aosp and sense. I agree its fixable tho
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man, you flip flop worse than any presidential candidate ever.

jayochs said:
man, you flip flop worse than any presidential candidate ever.
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Go away

AshtonTS said:
Go away
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lol sorry that i point out when you do your little talking out of your ass for "facts" thing.

I have this issue happen occasionally with stock ICS (both the OTA and Global Leak), but only when it is very bright out (mid-day, sunny, cloud free) and the phone is in my pocket... pull it out in the sunlight and press the power button and it takes 15 seconds for the screen to "crank up", it's just like the brightness slider is being moved very slowly from off to where it needs to be. And it only does this when Automatic Brightness is enabled, if it is turned off and I am set at specific value, it never does it. Guess I just took it as a annoyance rather than a bug since it doesn't happen often for me.

acejavelin said:
I have this issue happen occasionally with stock ICS (both the OTA and Global Leak), but only when it is very bright out (mid-day, sunny, cloud free) and the phone is in my pocket... pull it out in the sunlight and press the power button and it takes 15 seconds for the screen to "crank up", it's just like the brightness slider is being moved very slowly from off to where it needs to be. And it only does this when Automatic Brightness is enabled, if it is turned off and I am set at specific value, it never does it. Guess I just took it as a annoyance rather than a bug since it doesn't happen often for me.
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You're describing a different issue from the OP.
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jayochs said:
lol sorry that i point out when you do your little talking out of your ass for "facts" thing.
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I'm not talking out of my ass I just made a mistake God dude
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AshtonTS said:
I'm not talking out of my ass I just made a mistake God dude
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lol you make "mistakes" quite often then

jayochs said:
lol you make "mistakes" quite often then
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Maybe so.. I'm only human I'm not perfect like you
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AshtonTS said:
Maybe so.. I'm only human I'm not perfect like you
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maybe someday, my son. maybe someday. :fingers-crossed:

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is there a way to leave the Red Capacitive Buttons on?

I know they turn on in low light but is there a way to keep them from turning off while in bright light??
many times I have wished they were lit so I can see them
I have been looking for the same thing!
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Put a small, removable sticker over the light sensor on the top of your Rezound?
You can always get them to our come on, on demand, by placing your thumb or finger over the light sensor.
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The ineffibilis gingerbread rom has the option to keep the lights on. ICS roms have them on all the time I think.
There's an app called keyboard backlight. It lets you keep them off or on all the time
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well I'm not rooted so the only fix I see above is the "tape" fix or the "cover censor if you need to see them" fix.
pwned3 said:
There's an app called keyboard backlight. It lets you keep them off or on all the time
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Thanks for posting that, that app works perfectly.
I was using the mik tweaks in the inneffabilis ROM for this, but you have to reselect it every time you restart.
jmorton10 said:
Thanks for posting that, that app works perfectly.
I was using the mik tweaks in the inneffabilis ROM for this, but you have to reselect it every time you restart.
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It always persisted for me when I ran that rom iirc.
con247 said:
It always persisted for me when I ran that rom iirc.
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Weird, I have to uncheck then recheck the box after every reset.
Other people in the ROM thread posted the same thing.
con247 said:
The ineffibilis gingerbread rom has the option to keep the lights on. ICS roms have them on all the time I think.
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Not the ics rom I am running. Desensed 3.8 and lights are currently off as I type this in the bright lobby of pennstation.
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Blocking the sensor works, but...
I just tried putting a small piece of tape over the sensor and found that it works. The red buttons always stay on regardless of the ambient light conditions, however, during a call the screen will no longer go dark so that your ear, cheek, etc are no longer prevented from inadvertently clicking on anything. Obviously the sensor has a double duty.
pwned3 said:
There's an app called keyboard backlight. It lets you keep them off or on all the time
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Thanks for the app tip. Have you noticed any battery drain using it?
Haven't noticed any worse battery life since installing it
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Or you could just turn auto brightness off?
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pwned3 said:
There's an app called keyboard backlight. It lets you keep them off or on all the time
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Thanks. That app works great.
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Why would you want to do this though? I'm not trying to bash but that's gotta be a battery killer.
I Am Marino said:
Why would you want to do this though? I'm not trying to bash but that's gotta be a battery killer.
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Father insisted that he get the same phone as me and he has never had a smart phone. I tell him to hit the "back" or "menu" button and he cant find them... heck in the day I have to guess where their at.
pwned3 said:
There's an app called keyboard backlight. It lets you keep them off or on all the time
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Sounds like a great app but just an FYI for the masses in case they missed it... it requires root. May be obvious but I thought I'd mention it. I'm not rooted so... :-(
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pwned3 said:
There's an app called keyboard backlight. It lets you keep them off or on all the time
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App works great, I'm keeping an eye on battery life.
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pwned3 said:
There's an app called keyboard backlight. It lets you keep them off or on all the time
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jdfrye said:
well I'm not rooted so the only fix I see above is the "tape" fix or the "cover censor if you need to see them" fix.
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Or you can try the app suggested in the post right above yours.
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getting a phone next week

And it'll be the Evo LTE or the SGSIII.
I have handled both and like the Evo more. (rocking a Photon currently)
My one question: is there a RELIABLE AND BUG FREE workaround yet for the botched multi-tasking??
If not, I think that will ruin my experience.
Thanks.
Nope, even with everything I've tried it is still crwp when compared to other phones I've owned, specially stock android 4.1.
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Wow, not good. You have tried the custom ROMs that are available with the supposed tweaks to fix this?
Thanks.
I haven't noticed it at all. I can leave an application and go back into it 10+ minutes later and it's still where I left off.
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Rxpert said:
I haven't noticed it at all. I can leave an application and go back into it 10+ minutes later and it's still where I left off.
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So what is everyone complaining about?
ronnienyc said:
Wow, not good. You have tried the custom ROMs that are available with the supposed tweaks to fix this?
Thanks.
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I tried multiple roms and so far it seems there is no fix.
For example I was on the web browser. Backed out with the home key to go to home screen. I then went to settings to change my display settings went back to browser and the whole page had to reload and refresh.
My GS2 and Galaxy Nexus was better then this phone in the performance department.
Not to mention after you start installing apps and setting up your home screens the phone just gets slower and slower and less snappy.
ronnienyc said:
Wow, not good. You have tried the custom ROMs that are available with the supposed tweaks to fix this?
Thanks.
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Yep. It's bad.
Bad enough that my lte is sitting in a drawer as I use an alpha cm9 build on my evo 3d. Multitasking, background downloads stopping, and overall sluggishness compared to stock drove me away.
Rxpert said:
I haven't noticed it at all. I can leave an application and go back into it 10+ minutes later and it's still where I left off.
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Try playing a game. Then get a text, reply and check your email for the hell of it.
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Jelly Bean will be running on the LTEVO any day now, which will mitigate the multi-tasking issue. With that said, I've tried both and the LTEVO was the clear winner for me. The Galaxy is way too plasticy for me.
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michael.stollaire said:
Jelly Bean will be running on the LTEVO any day now, which will mitigate the multi-tasking issue.
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And how do we know this?
I'm on my second evo lte as of today first one the radio burn out on me for too much usage and second one came brand new in box with old update so I can root s off all the way but 2morrow I get my galaxy s 3 so moving to that one and selling this one
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The multitasking will get better with AOSP, I think. Actually, is it possible its because of the s4? Could anyone else using a phone with s4 respond to this? Much thanks.
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scottspa74 said:
The multitasking will get better with AOSP, I think. Actually, is it possible its because of the s4? Could anyone else using a phone with s4 respond to this? Much thanks.
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Don't think so
scottspa74 said:
The multitasking will get better with AOSP, I think. Actually, is it possible its because of the s4? Could anyone else using a phone with s4 respond to this? Much thanks.
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Nope. Just this phone. I returned this phone due to crappy gps, lag and horrible multi tasking. Having to keep my screen on to download something was unacceptable. I'm on a s3 now and xda app was still on the last Page I viewed yesterday evening and I've played a few games and run a few other apps. Gps is best I've ever experienced on a phone. Hard to say that and Samsung in same sentence lol
One thing I miss is reception though
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ronnienyc said:
And how do we know this?
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Go onto IRC and download decks build of cm10.
nvedamuthu said:
Go onto IRC and download decks build of cm10.
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Besides the camera and display HTC failed on this phone.

Evo one mutli tasking

Is it just me who notices that the evo doesn't really multi task well? When ever I jump back to an app using the recent apps button the app reloads or refreshes. For example I'm playing a game, pause the game, shoot a few texts, check my email, come back to the game and it restarts. Bte I'm not rooted and have just installed the latest update. Thank you much.
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Give cm10 a spin...multi tasking is fantastic.
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gmugrad04 said:
Give cm10 a spin...multi tasking is fantastic.
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Oh I see. I like sense over aosp.. Any good choices on that? But I will give cm10 a go when I root my EVO.
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manaup said:
Oh I see. I like sense over aosp.. Any good choices on that? But I will give cm10 a go when I root my EVO.
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Can't speak for sense 4.1, but 4.0 butchered multi tasking. It greatly limits the amount of simultaneous processes running in the background. I could not go back to sense at this point.
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There are already a few threads about this, also from the Q&A sticky at the top of this very forum:
Racer Of All said:
Q: Multitasking does not work like in previous phones, why?
A: Pretty much the phone kills applications off relatively quickly. Most ROMs have addressed this issue and you should receive better multitasking while running them. If you do not want to run a ROM a fix some people found is to go into settings> developer options scroll to the bottom and select "At most 4 processes" under Background process limit.
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So no, there's no real fix for sense based ROMs. Most of the ROMs help alleviate this issue but none outright fix it. HTC also claims that this is their intended behavior and that there is no issue with multitasking, so don't expect an official fix from them.
AOSP or CM10 is your only current option.
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Racer Of All said:
There are already a few threads about this, also from the Q&A sticky at the top of this very forum:
So no, there's no real fix for sense based ROMs. Most of the ROMs help alleviate this issue but none outright fix it. HTC also claims that this is their intended behavior and that there is no issue with multitasking, so don't expect an official fix from them.
AOSP or CM10 is your only current option.
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Sounds like the developer option/fix will drain battery. Do you guys know if the sg3 multi-task better than the evo? I just picked up the phone and still experimenting on it. If all goes well ill keep the phone. So far I like everything. To me, the cons are battery and multitasking.
Otherwise everything else is great.
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Cons are the battery??? How so...... I easily get 2 days out of the battery and most of the time I'm roaming.
mikejones13 said:
Cons are the battery??? How so...... I easily get 2 days out of the battery and most of the time I'm roaming.
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The phone will outlive the battery. I've had my og evo for 2.5 years. The oem battery doesn't last more than 4 hours anymore. Thank goodness for the gorilla battery, it made my og evo last longer and feel new again. Otherwise I woulda jumped on the 3d or design. Glad I didn't.
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manaup said:
Sounds like the developer option/fix will drain battery. Do you guys know if the sg3 multi-task better than the evo? I just picked up the phone and still experimenting on it. If all goes well ill keep the phone. So far I like everything. To me, the cons are battery and multitasking.
Otherwise everything else is great.
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Its not really so much the phones ability to multi task as it is the software... as already stated, running cm10 multitasking is phenomenal however running sense 4 multitasking is terrible. Basically, the phone has the ability to multitask however HTC kinda screwed us on that on sense 4
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manaup said:
The phone will outlive the battery. I've had my og evo for 2.5 years. The oem battery doesn't last more than 4 hours anymore. Thank goodness for the gorilla battery, it made my og evo last longer and feel new again. Otherwise I woulda jumped on the 3d or design. Glad I didn't.
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You can easily open up the phone and swap the battery, they made is surprisingly easy to do too, so that's great.
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Racer Of All said:
You can easily open up the phone and swap the battery, they made is surprisingly easy to do too, so that's great.
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Ah, I see. Maybe one of these days someone will come out with an extended battery XD
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manaup said:
Ah, I see. Maybe one of these days someone will come out with an extended battery XD
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No, I highly doubt that.
Theres no room for a bigger battery. You would have to replace like half the phone if you were to make some sort of extended battery cover.

DROID WITH HTC Sense 5????

Check out screenshots here
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-m7-flagship-leaks-along-with-sense-ui-5-0-screenshots-20130111/
Sooner or later there will be a leak.
NEW INFO DROID DNA WITH SENSE 5 http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/01/21/droid-dna-shown-with-sense-5-thanks-to-htc-m7/
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Looks so fake. I mean there isn't even consistant capitalization. Settings, WIRELESS.
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looks like a really bad photo shop to me
that's the super alpha sense 5, its changed since then, but it will look somewhat similar
Don't see alot of difference, but do notice the HTC green still. Wish they would go to the google blue.
TJMac44 said:
Don't see alot of difference, but do notice the HTC green still. Wish they would go to the google blue.
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Agree with that...blue is cool
I can't believe that they'd still have the menu button at the bottom like that, even in Sense 5. That just seems unacceptable to me in this day and age. I'm glad I can get rid of it on the DNA with custom ROMs, but most aren't so lucky.
Yea the menu button at the bottom is a pain.
trebb said:
I can't believe that they'd still have the menu button at the bottom like that, even in Sense 5. That just seems unacceptable to me in this day and age. I'm glad I can get rid of it on the DNA with custom ROMs, but most aren't so lucky.
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Well actually anyone with a 3 button htc phone can remap so you don't have on screen menu.
Ndaoud360 said:
Well actually anyone with a 3 button htc phone can remap so you don't have on screen menu.
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Unless you have a stock DNA...
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Unless you have a stock DNA...
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and whats the fun in that?
nitsuj17 said:
and whats the fun in that?
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Exactly
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Forget Sense 5, this looks awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ass2rWIqd8I&feature=share&list=PLS7azqUNoh8szi0WyRZPE4CSxfxH1L7cF
HTC made this phone for Japan Markets. imagine this running on our htc amaze.
May be this help Dev to make it possible to our Amaze
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119129
Just read that thread. Newt had a build for the HOX. Maybe a port can get us started?
the amaze had amazed me besides the battery, if we could obtain a port, thatd be great.bring the Amaze back into headlines.
Debel said:
the amaze had amazed me besides the battery, if we could obtain a port, thatd be great.bring the Amaze back into headlines.
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port wanted. Thanks :good:. Great Launcher.
Original based on sense 4
On page 2/3 they realised they were working on an incomplete dump..
Full dump is in the thread for someone of talent..
That someone, is not me
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What do you mean I can't say that??!!.. It's the fkin Internet!
Holy ****, I want this!!!
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the amaze had amazed me besides the battery, if we could obtain a port, thatd be great.bring the Amaze back into headlines.
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Lol when was the amaze in any headlines? Its been sh!t on since it was released...
The UI looks nice but with those graphics and animations... The amaze would need to be charged every 5 hrs
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GalaxyS3Guy said:
Lol when was the amaze in any headlines? Its been sh!t on since it was released...
The UI looks nice but with those graphics and animations... The amaze would need to be charged every 5 hrs
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Couldn't agree more, after switching to the s3 a month ago I couldnt believe I hung on to that junker so long.
Really like the animations and the theme itself. :thumbup:
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Brooklyn8807 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ass2rWIqd8I&feature=share&list=PLS7azqUNoh8szi0WyRZPE4CSxfxH1L7cF
HTC made this phone for Japan Markets. imagine this running on our htc amaze.
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that is sooo sexy zomg.
agree would be sweet to have a ui like that but being stuck to the charger all the time would def take away the awesomeness
Hmm.
By the way in sense 3.6 ,
We have to charge it in every 7-8 hours.
Than what will happen if we shift to sense 5.
Ohh my god.
I think AMAze is little outdated to handle sense 5.
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shubham211995 said:
Hmm.
By the way in sense 3.6 ,
We have to charge it in every 7-8 hours.
Than what will happen if we shift to sense 5.
Ohh my god.
I think AMAze is little outdated to handle sense 5.
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Go and flash my ROM and you'll see that surely it lasts more than that. Unless your using it heavily. If you used your amaze heavily for that amount of time then I would say you have fairly decent battery.
Screen time of 3 hours is a lot for this phone!
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Hmm but I only use internet.
Not playing any games, nor playing any music from the speakers.
And ya my screen's brightness is also to the lowest point.
Still I have problem of battery draining.
I m using stock Rom of t-mobile ICS.
Ok than I'll flash your Rom.
But which Rom ??
Just send me a link
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shubham211995 said:
Hmm but I only use internet.
Not playing any games, nor playing any music from the speakers.
And ya my screen's brightness is also to the lowest point.
Still I have problem of battery draining.
I m using stock Rom of t-mobile ICS.
Ok than I'll flash your Rom.
But which Rom ??
Just send me a link
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Its on the amaze development section just look for Kaioken Rom.
You should try out more roms rather than stock. For this phone it seems a little weird to stay on bone stock ICS. Look around and find what you like.
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Hey superAfman I sent a PM .
Have you got it ?
Just reply me..
Plz
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