Google Play Music: Why does it cache extra music when I streaming just one song? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So when I want to stream one particular song I noticed that the Google Play Music app downloads and caches the previous/next few songs for quicker access. How can I prevent this? It uses a lot of data and I usually only want to listen to the one song I chose to stream.
For example if I play a 6 mb song i noticed it uses about 40 mb to stream just that one song. Then I selected a different song to stream and immediately went into settings > download queue and noticed it was loading more songs than the one I requested. I only want to listen to the 1 song I chose, so how can I prevent the other songs from loading? As far as I can see there is no way in the app's settings but there has to be another way to stop this inconvenience.
Thanks in advance!
P.S. I have a T999 galaxy s3 running on stock rooted ICS
Also, if this is in the wrong forum I apologize (feel free to move it if it is), but I felt like this is a problem with the app on android and that maybe others were suffering from this too!

Just bumping to see if anyone knows why this happens? And if there is a way to to stop it because it is really affecting the usefulness of streaming from google play!

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[Q] Google Play music downloads songs ahead of time

Hi, I don't live in the US but managed to installed the the google play music app oficially from the play store since is available to download in my country (Honduras), then i used a proxy to download the music manager.
Everything is working fine except that the app is eating data like crazy i just listened to a song that is about 9MB and the app consumed nearly 40MB of data, I've noticed that the app pre download about 3 or 4 songs ahead of the one that i'm listening to that's why it uses so much data even when i'm not making the songs available for offline play. Also i noticed that when is not an entire album this doesn't happen.
¿Is there anything i can do to make it just stream the song that i want and not start buffering the next song in the album ahead of time?
Thanks.

[Q] Best music player to work with Google Music?

Hey guys,
I've been using GMusic for a while now, but I always found it very limited and not exactly to my taste.
Does anybody know a better music player that can load songs from GMusic?
danielfiller said:
Hey guys,
I've been using GMusic for a while now, but I always found it very limited and not exactly to my taste.
Does anybody know a better music player that can load songs from GMusic?
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not sure if google put the music you buy onto your device or its streaming the music but you might want to take a look at cyangenmods apollo.
Trozzul said:
not sure if google put the music you buy onto your device or its streaming the music but you might want to take a look at cyangenmods apollo.
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It streams all your library, and that's what special about it.
Apollo doesn't support Google Music streaming.
Any other suggestions?
danielfiller said:
It streams all your library, and that's what special about it.
Apollo doesn't support Google Music streaming.
Any other suggestions?
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i think there is a way to get it onto your device thought, i got one of their free albums and it was on my device even though data and wifi was turned off. dig around in the files maybe?
The music that's cached is on your device, but digging through the files won't do anything unfortunately, each one deeply encrypted, believe I've tried
If you're responding to me, make sure to quote me so I get an immediate email
Trozzul said:
i think there is a way to get it onto your device thought, i got one of their free albums and it was on my device even though data and wifi was turned off. dig around in the files maybe?
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There is a way to do that, but then I lose the whole point of streaming - not having the files taking up space on my device.
The files you found in Apollo were probably some temp cache files leftovers.
So no suggestions?
Maybe someone else knows about an app like the one I'm looking for?
Maybe even some plugin that enables players to stream from Google?
been trying to find something for a while with no luck... I think its a great service, and the app isn't even that bad, but sometimes I just need that music to stream through another music program for a certain feature or option... or just because I say so! lol
(Most of my music I uploaded to the cloud was flac, so it is played back as 320kbps... In some areas I get only 1 bar of 3g, and at worst music playback may pause for 5-10 seconds... but even this is a rare occurrence... Others have complained about the quality, but I think it's great considering I have the options set for high quality playback only and still don't have issues)
what I don't quite understand, is the talk of 'lack of an api' for Google Music streaming.....
However, Android app's for DLNA or other wireless streaming, such as Bubble UPnP, and this app which streams to 'Sonos'? wireless speakers: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.youtec.android.macronos&hl=en
They DO support streaming from google music - the actual CLOUD (sorry it bothers me that someone names an app Cloud Music Sniper and flaunts allowing access to google music, then turns out its for the OFFLINE available apps that you pin for offline access? Oh and shockingly there is an app called Offline Music Importer that works the same - except it doesn't piss me off by implying it can access anything associated with my music on the cloud!) /end rant
So why are these streaming apps like Bubble UPnP able to access my Google Play Music collection on the cloud so I can play it back through my home receiver - yet I can't get it to work with a 3rd party music player at all? Hell, all I honestly want is a stupid visualizer, preferably that I can set as a live wallpaper... but they only seem to work with 1 out of every 5 songs that plays.... regardless of offline or streaming... and that REALLY confuses me =/
purplekush said:
been trying to find something for a while with no luck... I think its a great service, and the app isn't even that bad, but sometimes I just need that music to stream through another music program for a certain feature or option... or just because I say so! lol
(Most of my music I uploaded to the cloud was flac, so it is played back as 320kbps... In some areas I get only 1 bar of 3g, and at worst music playback may pause for 5-10 seconds... but even this is a rare occurrence... Others have complained about the quality, but I think it's great considering I have the options set for high quality playback only and still don't have issues)
what I don't quite understand, is the talk of 'lack of an api' for Google Music streaming.....
However, Android app's for DLNA or other wireless streaming, such as Bubble UPnP, and this app which streams to 'Sonos'? wireless speakers: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.youtec.android.macronos&hl=en
They DO support streaming from google music - the actual CLOUD (sorry it bothers me that someone names an app Cloud Music Sniper and flaunts allowing access to google music, then turns out its for the OFFLINE available apps that you pin for offline access? Oh and shockingly there is an app called Offline Music Importer that works the same - except it doesn't piss me off by implying it can access anything associated with my music on the cloud!) /end rant
So why are these streaming apps like Bubble UPnP able to access my Google Play Music collection on the cloud so I can play it back through my home receiver - yet I can't get it to work with a 3rd party music player at all? Hell, all I honestly want is a stupid visualizer, preferably that I can set as a live wallpaper... but they only seem to work with 1 out of every 5 songs that plays.... regardless of offline or streaming... and that REALLY confuses me =/
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found this baby:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169761
check it out
THANKS! Know a way to pick output device for the Web based version?
danielfiller said:
found this baby:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169761
check it out
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WOW! thank you so much for letting me know about this! :good:
I'm definitely gonna check it out and see how the streaming quality compares...
[sometimes it makes the difference between playing and buffering when using the Google Play Music app's settings for mobile streaming - the High, Normal, and Low quality setting]
Regardless, this is a good step in a good direction... I know Bubble UPnP app and even some file explorer apps could access cloud storage, including the google music account - so I'm glad someone finally incorporated that in a way that let other music players on the device see the cloud storage as if they were local!
As exciting as it is, I'm also cautiously optimistic... While this means that Google's All Access music service will become much more attractive and viable for multiple device use compared to it's competitors --- there will, of course, be issues regarding protecting digital rights. Already I mentioned the 'misleading' programs that allowed ON DEVICE/'pinned' music from Google Music to be played in 3rd party players, and some convert the file to a properly labeled mp3. Considering Google Play Music already allows for All Access subscription users to do the same to songs within their entire catalog (that is, 'pin' it to the device for offline play - which was really a surprise to me), this means those same programs can now convert the All Access music that is pinned to allow offline play into proper mp3 files.... Thus with some coding to make the process faster, one can essentially download any song they want from All Access and keep it as an mp3 - altho it is only meant to be a subscription service and the option to pin music from all access is just supposed to allow access to the subscription service without signal or without eating up data from a data plan.
I guess that means if Google Music wants their music streaming service to succeed, rather than taking away support for 3rd party players - they must provide an official API and a better means of protecting the songs stored for offline playback using a database and/or file level encryption for the 'pinned' songs. I'd hate to see the ability to use the service on other players be stripped and locked down even more to a single player due to these kind of concerns that Google surely already sees as an issue and is likely brainstorming solutions.
Question:
On the topic of Google Play Music, does anyone happen to know of a similar solution regarding Google Music Streaming on a DESKTOP ??
I have found gmusic (not the iOS app), but a standalone program that sits in the system tray...
http://gmusic.codeplex.com/
Some of the chrome plugins actually offer better features (last.fm integration, lyrics, etc....), but the one I found that said it allowed use of media keys didn't work for me...
This is the only one I found that allows me to A) not get my music player lost in a massive field of tabs, and B) change songs while playing a game!
The Main Player window, although, is nothing more than a customized browser window (like the ability to view webpages within winamp and other programs). It is nice that it is a separate icon not mixed in among other browsers, supports media keys, can be minimized etc ----
The one major thing I'm still unable to find a solution for, is the ability to select (non-default) audio output device!!
I have always had my pc connected to my receiver/surround sound system since I got 'my own' computer, so being able to select the audio output is crucial for me when playing music, as I direct the music through digital output to the sound system, but still want to hear other audio through the output jack.
Many times I'll have -Music through digital optical output, -Game SFX through pc speaker output, and -Google Hangouts (for voice chat with teammates) through USB headset.
However it isn't as common for a game to have audio device options as it is for a music/media player.... and always remembering to alt-tab after the games started to change the the default device is a major pain!
(Not to mention even if I'm just listening to music, I don't want to hear audio from a random ad... esp when I can't track down the source of the ad among my tabs, and it is blaring loud out the sound system along with my music)
Many people have complained/requested this to be a feature of Google Chrome - of course the Google team reading these complaints are thinking from the perspective of a simple web browser, something that usually has no need for such a feature...
However, plenty have brought up the issue of Google's Music Service being web-based, and thus such a feature is needed.
I'm not quite sure it is an issue that needs to be addressed by the Chrome browser, but it should definitely be an option within the Google Music web app itself - similar to how one can choose their input and output device in Google Hangouts, which is also a web-app run within a browser.
Of course, the best solution for me would be to find someone that has created something similar to GMusicFS that allows the music to appear as if it is local (similar to google drive's client) or if one of the better music players (Winamp, Foobar, MusicBee, etc.) had an extension somewhere that allows adding cloud music services like Google Music.
Anyways,
@danielfiller Thanks so much for pointing me to that app!
(sorry to any mods about how this post isn't -exactly- a proper topic for its location. Its just that Google Music is cross platform, not limited to mobile devices. While my question does not relate to any mobile platform, it is regarding the exact same functions the android app provides for the exact same streaming service.)

[Q] Some questions about how Google Music works

Hi,
I have a few questions about Goole Play Music All Access. Hopefully this is the right place to ask. Just to calrify, I have a lot of music from other MP3 providers, or from my CD collection on my device. I plan on keeping it that way, because I don,t want to lose the ability to play songs with different players.:
Does your choice of Thumbs up/Thumbs down affect Radio play, if the files are on your device and not on the cloud?
When you choose Radio Play, does it mix songs from your personal library (assuming they only exist on your device)and the cloud?
I have set up my Thumbs up list do automatically download songs to my device. If I "Thumbs up" a song that I have added from my library to my device, and the same song exists on the Google Servers, what happens?
Does the choice of High/Medium/Low quality affect the quality of the song saved to my device? If so, is ther a way to listen in Normal when not on Wi-Fi but to download high quality files to the device?
I would like to have the Thumbs Up/Down control on the lock screen. Is this possible?
I find the qality of sound of the Google Play Music app to be lacking (compared to PowerAmp, for example). What other apps will give me the same access to the Google Play Music All Access?
Is it possible, when playing songs on the device only, to skip certain songs altogether when using "I feel lucky?" For example, I have a lot of spoken word, or music backtracks that I don't want to hear in my shuffled songs. In other players I just put them in a separate folder and tell the player to ignor that folder, but that concept doesn't seem to exist in Google Play Music. Unless I'm wrong?
Thanks,
L

Curious about Google Play Music...

So here's the thing. I don't have unlimited data, and thus, I can't just stream my music all the time, or I'll burn through my data allotment pretty quickly. I've always been fond of Play Music's save to device feature. There are some things I'm a bit confused by, though, and I'm hoping someone can clear them up for me.
For one, within the Play Music app, can you delete "saved to device" songs off of your device without deleting them from your Play Music library completely? Is there any specific way to do that?
Secondly, I'm interested in signing up for All Access, but similarly, I wonder how the offline functionality works for that, like with the radio stations, for example. It appears you can save the "custom radio stations" to your phone for offline play, but how many songs does it actually download? Aren't those stations supposed to just kind of go infinitely, until you stop listening to them? Does it only download a set number of songs (or length of music), or something? And how easy is it to delete these saved radio stations (and the songs from them) from your phone?
Sorry if any of these are dumb questions. Just never really played around with this stuff before, so I really don't know how it works at all.

Music app which can auto-crossfade playlist?

Hello all, I am searching the net for a music app which will auto-crossfade a playlist of tunes. According to the description, it seems that the Rocket Player app can do this but I installed it and there's a gap between the tunes. Is there any other app I can try or if Rocket player can do this, how can I get support from it's developer please?
jet-audio
Thanks, I tried it, it is not auto-crossfading so I have written to the developer for help.
what do you mean by "auto-crossfading". if it has anything got to do with fading out the end of the current song and fading into the new song its there
koshikas said:
what do you mean by "auto-crossfading". if it has anything got to do with fading out the end of the current song and fading into the new song its there
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I mean I select a playlist and the software will play every song on it's own without myself having to select song after song, like a shuffle feature but it will crossfade every tune so no gaps in between the tunes.
BlackPlayer! Does it all... I like a lot this new minimalistic toy
dev>null said:
BlackPlayer! Does it all... I like a lot this new minimalistic toy
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Same deal with blackplayer, even though the "gapless" option is selected it is not crossfading, would you mind checking the audio preferences in blackplayer on your android phone and let me know what else is checked so I can set mine the same way please?
You could try PlayerPro. Been with for ages, and always come back to it. It's even running right now, crossfading as you wish
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i think what you're looking for is something like Mix and Mash on iTunes. This program allows you to choose the songs you like (either individually or by playlist) and then you crossfade songs for any length of time. Plus, you don't have to play the entire song, you can choose to play whatever amount of time you would like and songs usually begin playing somewhere in the middle, so you don't have to listen to the beginning or end of a song.
Is there an app like this for android???
Poweramp. It's not free, but I believe there is a trial. I've used it for years now. It's one of the few apps have made the journey from Gingerbread to Nougat with me, lol... Turn on the cross-fading in the settings, and play any song from the 'All Songs' list. You can turn on shuffle or let the list play in order. There are two settings [other than off] under Auto-advance fading, one is to only crossfade songs that aren't gapless and the other is to crossfade all songs. You might have to change the setting to the 'Crossfade all songs' setting, as many songs I've tried don't seem to do it. This creates a problem if you want to listen to an album that is gapless (no delay between tracks), so toggle the setting as needed
I found one called media monkey and it has a cross-fade in the settings. throw a playlist in and it mixes all tracks with no silence
In case anyone is still looking, the best crossfade I found is "neutron music player" (evaluation version). All other players (Pi music player, dub music player) I tried will "crossfade" only if I follow playlist order, but there is an obvious break if I randomly pick a song from the list. I use this app to play pad music and have to choose different files as needed instead of following the order of playlist.
However, neutron has really horrendous interface compared to others. Not user friendly at all, I would have given it up immediately if I could find something else that works.

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