Well guys, the HTC One X + is supposed to be the next big thing. Supposed to have the potential to dominate the iPhone 5, Galaxy S III and Lumia 920 (already has dominated the Lumia seeing as how it's a WIndows phone).
But is it the next phone that I should buy? All signs point to yes!
Here is a comparison between the HTC One X + and the Lumia 920...
Screen Display - HTC One X+ offers a 4.7 inch S-LCD2 display and Nokia Lumia 920 sports a 4.5-inch screen display. HTC claimed that their device is perfect for outdoor viewing which is countered by Nokia's colorful tiles.
Winner: HTC One X+
Processor - The HTC One X+ has a chip upgrade from its predecessor and is powered by a 1.7GHz quad-core chip with 1GB of RAM. Nokia Lumia 920, on the other hand, has a dual-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor.
Winner: HTC One X+
Operating System - Nokia Lumia 920 is running with Windows Phone 8, which is also a new version of the company's mobile software and promises greater experience. However, the new HTC One X+ comes with the Android v4.1 Jelly Bean.
Winner: Draw
Camera - Both devices have 8 megapixels rear camera. However, Nokia Lumia 920 boasts PureView camera that can capture sharp and vivid images.
Winner: Nokia Lumia 920
Battery - HTC One X+ sports a 2100 mAh battery that promises longer battery life, which is slightly higher than Nokia Lumia 920's 2000 mAh battery. However, Nokia is equipped with wireless charging feature that allows user to enjoy longer use of the device.
Winner: Nokia Lumia 920
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Either way, I'll be getting the HTC One X +, I've refused to have been iPwnd for years now and will never submit to Apple. Let's face it, iOS is inferior to Android in every way (at least in my opinion).
What do you guys think?
HTC One X + the way to go???
Thanks!
Honestly, the only advantages of the Lumia 920 might be in the screen(very close, hard to tell until detailed data comes out), definitely in the camera, and maybe in WP8 if it's better than 4.1.
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Honestly, the only advantages of the Lumia 920 might be in the screen(very close, hard to tell until detailed data comes out), definitely in the camera, and maybe in WP8 if it's better than 4.1.
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Yeah, the Lumia definitely has it's strong points. But the thing the worries me the most is Windows 8. Microsoft has developed Windows 8 as their mobile, tablet and pc OS. Microsoft, as history shows us, has failed miserably when it comes down to their mobile OS's. This time, however, they have created Windows 8 so that it can work flawlessly (supposedly) over multiple Windows 8 devices rather they be mobile or not.
It looks like they are trying to take charge of the mobile market. Kind of in the same way they are the winners in home, small business and enterprise networking. No one uses Apple products and software for networking in large environments. It's Windows Server 2k3, 2k8, Exchange 2k3/2k8, Sharepoint, SCCM, SCOM, VMware, SQL, Office, and most importantly Active Directory which would obviously be installable on any MS server system.
The point is, MS has failed in the past on the mobile side. They realize this and so they are trying to create devices to where you must use them due to compatibility or just because it's easier.
If Windows 8 fails on the mobile market it will cause major problems with users whom have Windows 8 on their PC's and laptops. Why? Because Microsoft developed this with the mobile market in mind and the the home pc user.
Anyway, I've kind or ran off on a tangent here. But I hope the specs for the One X + are what they say they are going to be and if nothing changes I plan to buy one.
One drawback, looks like AT&T will be the carrier featuring the One X + at first. I left ATT years ago after being a customer for like 8 years (I was with Cingular before which ATT bought out) and switched to Sprint. Now that my contract is up I was thinking Verizon because of the S III, the main reason I went to Sprint was because they had the HTC EVO 4G (or were going to, it had yet to be released at the time). And so I did.. Then Sprint drops WiMax to go with LTE thus rendering the already useless 4G obsolete. I just lived in an area with no WiMax coverage initially.
But for as long as I've had my EVO I've used the 4G twice when I was in Atlanta and that's it. My friend has the SIII and gets 4G all over my area.
In a nutshell, I really would hate to go to AT&T again just for the ONe X +, perhaps an exploit will come out so that we may be able to network unlock the device. We'll see I guess...
The S4 beat the tegra 3 even though it was only dual core compared to the quad core... Benchmars etc
So it's yet to be seen if the tegra 3+ beats the s4 in the 920. Having completely different operating systems doesn't make a good comparison though.
I'm actually thinking if getting the oneX+ since I skipped the original oneX, but I like Windows Phone and I could just keep my titan and get the oneX+.
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Well guys, the HTC One X + is supposed to be the next big thing. Supposed to have the potential to dominate the iPhone 5, Galaxy S III and Lumia 920 (already has dominated the Lumia seeing as how it's a WIndows phone).
But is it the next phone that I should buy? All signs point to yes!
Here is a comparison between the HTC One X + and the Lumia 920...
Screen Display - HTC One X+ offers a 4.7 inch S-LCD2 display and Nokia Lumia 920 sports a 4.5-inch screen display. HTC claimed that their device is perfect for outdoor viewing which is countered by Nokia's colorful tiles.
Winner: HTC One X+
Processor - The HTC One X+ has a chip upgrade from its predecessor and is powered by a 1.7GHz quad-core chip with 1GB of RAM. Nokia Lumia 920, on the other hand, has a dual-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor.
Winner: HTC One X+
Operating System - Nokia Lumia 920 is running with Windows Phone 8, which is also a new version of the company's mobile software and promises greater experience. However, the new HTC One X+ comes with the Android v4.1 Jelly Bean.
Winner: Draw
Camera - Both devices have 8 megapixels rear camera. However, Nokia Lumia 920 boasts PureView camera that can capture sharp and vivid images.
Winner: Nokia Lumia 920
Battery - HTC One X+ sports a 2100 mAh battery that promises longer battery life, which is slightly higher than Nokia Lumia 920's 2000 mAh battery. However, Nokia is equipped with wireless charging feature that allows user to enjoy longer use of the device.
Winner: Nokia Lumia 920
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Either way, I'll be getting the HTC One X +, I've refused to have been iPwnd for years now and will never submit to Apple. Let's face it, iOS is inferior to Android in every way (at least in my opinion).
What do you guys think?
HTC One X + the way to go???
Thanks!
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Sorry. All of these advantages has been outweighed that its a goddamn Tegra 3 which is slow and inefficient. Best of all its made by NVIDIA means no support. Look at those poor Tegra 2 phone/tablet owners having no drivers! I pity them. They should have went for the Snapdragon S4 Quad.
Well the differences in processor (at least to me) is the same as with PC's and Laptops. I grew up in the 90's when Intel was all you ever saw or heard about. They pretty much changed the world with their designs. Then, later on, Advanced Micro Devices shows up and offers nearly the same processing power (but with the bonus of a 64 bit architecture) at 1/4 of the price.
Today you, when building a new PC, choosing to go with Intel or AMD is like choosing between Nike and Reebok when buying a pair of tennis shoes. The quality of both is near the same but the prices are much different.
I'm not sure how price factors in to different processors for mobile phones but I'm certain there is a difference. And with that said I don't think you could go wrong no matter which processor you chose. Lol! Maybe one day we'll be able to choose the type of hardware that goes in our smart phones such as processor, amount/type of RAM, internal solid state storage and perhaps even more or less advanced GPU's.
One thing that I'm happy about is that the HTC One X + will offer a true Quad core processor in the US as opposed to the HTC One X which only offered Quad core in Europe I believe and dual core capability in the US. I wonder how much of a difference that really made though...
Anyway, as I stated in an earlier post, I've never been a fan of any Windows mobile OS. Although, I did own a Samsung Blackjack II several years ago and it ran Windows Mobile and worked well. But there was nothing else to compare it to other than Blackberry's OS. And this phone was supposed to rival the Blackberry as they pretty much dominated the mobile market at that time.
The next phone I bought after the Blackjack II was the EVO 4G. At that point the Android OS had been out for sometime starting with the Google G1 which was one of the most innovative devices ever to hit the mobile market. Now I will give Apple a nibble of credit here. iOS and the iPhone were extremely innovative devices and tons of people love the iPhone.
But 95% of us here on the forums at XDA no better. You are so limited with what you can do with and iPhone but with an Android device... Well, the possibilities are quite literally endless.
Long live Android!!!!
By the way, the comparison I posted above was the only one I could find. I would like to see how the One X + stacks up against the SIII spec for spec. If anyone can find a good compare please post.
Thanks!
Everyone will be a winner if they choose either one
I like the one X+ but idk,I don't like tegra 3 even the improved version...Maybe because of the fact that it's built on 40nm architecture makes it feel old,not to mention that the ULP geforce GPU is nowhere as good as mali or adreno 225/320.The non-removable battery seems a pain in the *** too,especially for people who keep their phones for 2 years+ like me.Also htc sense is pretty heavy imo and I'm not sure if they fixed the multitasking issue or not.
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I like the one X+ but idk,I don't like tegra 3 even the improved version...Maybe because of the fact that it's built on 40nm architecture makes it feel old,not to mention that the ULP geforce GPU is nowhere as good as mali or adreno 225/320.The non-removable battery seems a pain in the *** too,especially for people who keep their phones for 2 years+ like me.Also htc sense is pretty heavy imo and I'm not sure if they fixed the multitasking issue or not.
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Basically Tegra 3 is the worst of all quad-core processors.
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Basically Tegra 3 is the worst of all quad-core processors.
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It crushes Galaxy SIII (int quadcore version) in quadrant. I wouldn't call that weak.
Screens will be very close. Both will be top notch LCD screens so no issues there. Pure Motion is supposed to be good. The only issue will be size. 4.7 vs 4.5. Brightness on the HOX is already good.
S4 is better than T3, T3 is better for gaming with exclusive THD games. S4 performs better on the battery. My sister has the S4 in her HOS and works wonders.
S4 also incorporates a very good DAC which will beat the T3 although Beats audio is a gimmick. But doesn't sound too bad.
Cameras both will be good, Nokia may edge it with OIS. Video recording will be better on the Nokia again with OIS and possibly higher frame rates.
All personal preferences as two totally different OSs.
Now if Nokia made Android devices...
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It crushes Galaxy SIII (int quadcore version) in quadrant. I wouldn't call that weak.
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Crushes? It beats it by a little and yet, the S3 kicks the one x in the booty. Any known the devoloper, hacker will tell u not to rely on quadrant too much, a benchmark tool that gives u 2 very different scores after each run. Run antutu.
Lol the gs3/evolte & n920 already dominate the ip5
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You can't argue about a higher clock speed being faster. In most cases a 1.7ghzx4 will be faster then a 1.4ghzx4. So ofcours the new tegra will be faster.
BUT is it sitting on a 28nm qualcomm chipset that gets ridiculous battery life's at ultra high fsb speeds?
All bull**** aside,the tegra will be faster but might lack development and is nowhere near s4/s4pro technology
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That may not be true. A 3ghz I7. For example would destroy a 3.5ghz i5. Clockspeed is not always king
I personally don't care about benchmarks,I care about how smooth the experience is.Touchwiz is lighter than sense so real life performance might still be better on the GS3,that's not something I'm sure of but well my point is that benchmarks don't mean anything except for GPU benchmarks maybe.The galaxy nexus-for example- is super smooth even with an outdated chip(the nexus' benchmark scores are less than half what the S3 or the one X can achieve).
I have experienced the tegra 3 with my one x all I can say is wait for a quad a15 architecture Qualcomm, tegra 4 or exynos 5. Believe me tegra 3 is bad due to it being 40nm it heats up really easy when playing a game. After experiencing Qualcomm s2 on desire hd I will stick with Qualcomm next time until tegra make something really mouth watering.
I have already seen the benchmarks of tegra 3+ it is on pair with S4 pro with 7500 quadrant score and 14000 on linpack and 850 I think on sunspider. Benchmark wise the tegra 3+ is a massive improvement its not low like tegra 3 due to the bandwidth being increased and switching from DDR2 to DDR3. The only problem with tegra 3+ is its not A15 and its 40nm with doesn't affect benchmark performance but it does affect experience.
I do believe the HTC one x+ when it comes out it will have excellent battery life and performance but the only think I don't like is the camera performance, out put speakers are poor compared to other flagships, and it has that camera hump.
I want to see a phone like HTC one x but 4.3 inch with a sd card then I'll say I'm impressed the only phone I have ever seen that ticks the most boxes is iPhone 4s because it's small and powerful with a good camera, speaker are the best, microphones and design. Like the HTC one x+ but it's to big the camera sticks out and it made of polycarbonate which on my white HTC one x gets really dirty. I also like heavy phones even if HTC one x+ is good it no where near feels as good as HTC desire hd weighing at 168 grams that feels solid.
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By the time the One X+ is out, the T3 will be an obsolete platform... especially compared to the S4 Pro Quad that will probably become commonplace.
Couple that with a fixed battery, no options for microSD expansion, and you have a phone that is not very future proof. I guess that's more important to me than for others though. 64gb of maximum internal storage is nothing to drool about, especially in a phone that hasn't even been released. Though again, the effects of this limitation are more pronounced for those who run/hike/mountaineer in places with no internet reception so internet access/streaming is really limited and you hate having to constantly trade music on/off your phone to make space.
Do people still buy phones to be future proof? I would have thought that if you were concerned about that, I you have a plan to upgrade every 18/24 months?
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You have to care more about software than hardware if you want a future-proof device.The optimus G for example is probably the most powerful smartphone on earth but is it going to see any updates ? Probably not.Maybe only a buggy jelly bean firmware that will take months to be released then you are stuck with no more updates and a locked bootloader.
You could always go with the LG Nexus if you're concerned about updates. But then again, we're only hearing about an 8 gig model with no SDCard at this point.
I'm (im)patiently waiting to get my first Android phone before the end of the year. Current front runners are the One X+ and LG Nexus if they can up the storage and definitely have LTE on AT&T. Not seeing anything else out there currently that interests me. GS3 is nice, but I want a brighter screen and don't care for the plastic housing. Love the feel of the current One X.
Choices, choices!
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Hi everyone. I was sure I want to buy Hero, but then accidently found this Samsung. It's specs are quite impressive compared to HTC model (AMOLED, 8 GB, 800 Mhz proc).
I'm just curious why is it so cheap? I mean its specs are *almost* equal to HTC Legend, but the price is so low.
Any tips, opinions when choosing between these devices? Thanks in advace?
I have the i5700. It's not actually AMOLED, it's TFT. The i7500 was AMOLED but the screen is still brilliant. Using BenchmarkPi i got 8803 millisecconds, which is about 4000 less than the Hero. Snapdragons can do it in about 3500 though...
I prefer the design, it doesn't have Sense but it's not really a great loss. What is it really, a black status bar and a wheel at the bottom? Sure the clock/weather widget is cool but it's not a deal breaker. With 2.1 confirmed and rolled out in some countries it looks like a good choice, but depends on your usage, price and preferences.
It's cheap, because it's Samsung. No soft and no quality. Simple. From where you think the cheapness comes then? And instead of Hero better concider Legend or Desire. Hero is a bit old. Good phone nevertheless.
The phone has good specs but its a Samsung they make good TV's but when it comes to phones there build quality is poor next to HTC. I would say get the HTC Legend if you want a phone that will last. I own a HTC Hero and its the best phone I have ever had I say if you want Android go HTC you will not be disappointed .
There's nothing wrong with the build quality... certainly on par with the Hero. To be honest all the Hero offers over it is Sense as standard. The i5700 has a better camera, CPU, battery and lack of chin.
My sister has had Samsung phones in the past they have sucked ass they feel cheap I don't like the build quality of Samsung phones but if you can look past that it maybe a cheaper build then it would worth going for because of the specs. I also like the fact that it comes as a standard build of android but what version is it running?? if its 1.5 I wouldn't bother with it unless you can root it and change the firmware (ROM).
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My sister has had Samsung phones in the past they have sucked ass they feel cheap I don't like the build quality of Samsung phones but if you can look past that it maybe a cheaper build then it would worth going for because of the specs. I also like the fact that it comes as a standard build of android but what version is it running?? if its 1.5 I wouldn't bother with it unless you can root it and change the firmware (ROM).
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Samsung make cheap phones is not the same as Samsung phones are cheap. I'll say it again, the build quality of this is at least on par with the Hero. It's 1.5 at the moment, with an upgrade to 2.1 confirmed as imminemt and even out in some countries. I think it haa some light customization though.
i5700
Samsung doesn't make phones they make garbage, I have i5700 and it sucks in every aspect I do not have HTC hero but I have an iPhone and quality difference is more than 2000 SAR difference in price.
1. Audio playback quality SUCKS.
2. Touch screen is claimed to be capacitive but its seriously doesn't feel like, if I set it on a desktop and try to touch something it hardly works.
3. Software that comes with it doesn't even sync, had lots of trouble before it worked.
4. Buttons are hard to press and clunky.
5. Implementation of OS 1.5.1 was sucky so upgraded it to 2.1 and now its even worse.
6. I don't even believe it 800MHz because my iPhone 3GS is 600MHz and lighting fast this thing takes ages to do anything, I know OS different but I don't think it should be so much different.
7. Trying to use it as my primary phone over iPhone till the version 4.0 iPhone OS is out but trust me its hard, crashes, hangs (even before I updated to 2.1), email client always crashes for some reason.
8. Badly written sync software
9. Badly written drivers
10. Non existent manual.
I did compare it to hero while buying but hero was 600 SAR more expensive and slower with 1.6 Android with no chance of upgrade.
Go for something else in my opinion
8, 9, 10 - please, check you'r devices located @ /dev/hands and /dev/head
1. it's not objective rating
6- I thougth that after P4, athlon and c2d people would learn to not rate CPUs only by their clock speed... The Iphone 3GS has an ARM Cortex A8, that is close to 2 times faster clock for clock over an ARM 11. Memory bandwidth, GPU, etc could also have an impact in the perceived speed when using the phone.
Without a doubt, HTC and tmo have released some pretty amazing devices, Sensation, Amaze, Mytouch 4g slide, etc... Now, the One is coming to tmo, would you upgrade to it?
Here's my opinion, apperently, the model Us carriers will get will be dual-core, because apperently LTE is not compatible with quad core CPUs. I think one of the disadvantages of getting the One is that when LTE comes out, we won't be able to use it. But, tmo's 4g is pretty good already. So, would I upgrade? Yes. Hd screen, ICS with sense 4.0, 8mp cam, to take 1080p vids and pics at the same time, pretty good.
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Title is misleading because it is, also yes I will upgrade. I'm very big on photo's and the camera wouldn't be the same on the Amaze, the sensors are outstanding! Smart Flash! Sense 4.0 and way more development because the ones are a world phone! It's faster than the amaze and all benchmark test that i have seen and its running stock! Imagine custom roms! Even thought quadrant itsn't everything! Plus its smaller and thinner. Beats audio integration throughout the whole phone! I know dsp manager is their but i hate opening it all the time. So yes when it comes out I am getting the one s hands down! Also! the one S is dual core so theirs no LTE Problem im pretty sure Tmo will make it so we can use our phones otherwise thats bad marketing. Also a better front camera which will help with video conferencing I can't wait.
One X
Its a very nice phone, definitely some nice minor upgrades over the amaze but to me it isn't worth it. I've decided to stick with the amaze and see what the Galaxy S III has to offer. I want a quad core phone with an Hd screen, I won't settle for something with capacitive buttons(with the amaze as an exception) especially now that android 4.0 supports buttons on the touch screen.
It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
I know the minute i get an HTC One device, and find a happy home for my amaze, google wallet will be available for the amaze 4g.. With some awesome promo. Not that much of an upgrade. Im perfectly happy with my camera. Not worth it. I have a standard camera for that.
I forgot which Android blog, but I just read about a "reliable" rumor that tmo is gonna get the one x without lte capabilities (ie the international quad-core version, cuz the hspa+ is good enough they say) and it's likely going to be a "G" device - like the G1, G2, etc. which means it'll be vanilla ics.
If this is true I know exactly where every single dev is going...and I'm gonna try my hardest to follow, haha.
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I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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Agreed, not much more to say. Excellent summary, my good man. Haha
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I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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I put cross fire bridges on the first two and the second two...
ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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+1 all the One S has over the amaze is s4 processor (which i believe is better than t3) dual channel ram, and maybe a slightly better camera. (im sure its just software though)
I will not be upgrading. I can't express how good of a phone the amaze is. Its very unique looking (front maybe looks like a sensation but the back is very nice) it has an amazing build quality, it out preforms my daily tasks. Phone/SMS/Video/Pictures and a game here and there. The Amaze is still a great phone and i believe it will still be a good phone even when T3 and S4 chips come out. Once we achieve S-OFF i think there will be more developers for the amaze.
I dont know how you guys are upgrading so fast. I recently got my Amaze, and this phone just came out in oCtober of last year? not even 6 months ago. It is still a pretty expensive phone. I would rather stick with amaze love the camera and recording buttons, the 2mp front facing camera, the amazing 8Mp camera, and how reliable it is, no dropped calls or anything
I've preordered the HTC One X from Expansys. I have an Amaze and love it (I'm typing this post on it)....but I'm still excited to get the quad core version of the One X...
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already but I read last night that the X one my come to tmobile as the next G series phone and my be stock Ics!!!
Check it out over here at the rumor farm -
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/sma...e-to-get-stock-android-4-0-and-quad-core-cpu/
Too bad I really needed a new phone in December. Otherwise this was exactly what I was waiting for! O well...
Good thing about owning the amaze is its new enough to where when the new line rolls out, we can sit back for a bit, watch development, and catch it at a better price down the road
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I'm happy with the screen on the Amaze, SuperLCD? I've had a SGS2 owner admit that mine has nicer color, clarity, etc.
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It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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The one s has a dual core, the overseas version of the one X has a dualcore. I'm not sure about the S4, i hear its nice but what has me leaning to the quadcore is that i hear it has a small core to help save battery?
Hey fellow members of XDA, I hope you're all well!
Anyway, I have a question relating to Android phones. Recently, I purchased a Nexus 7 - I was previously an iOS user, but, after using the Nexus 7 - I found Android was actually on par, if not better than, the iOS experience.
So, although my original plan was to purchase an iPhone 4S - I have decided against that notion - and instead I am planning to buy an Android phone, and possibly even a Windows Phone - once Windows Phone 8 is released.
I will be using the phone for mainly internet browsing, social networking, music, movies, gaming, and perhaps even reading at times - although I already have a Nexus 7 for those, you cannot really take it everywhere despite the size of it, and no 3G/4G severely hamper it's connectivity. By that I mean, you can hardly fit it in your pocket.
Currently, I am thinking about purchasing either the HTC One X - or the Samsung Galaxy S III. Both are great phones, and while HTC has the advantage of Tegra 3 - and a staggering 0.1 GHz faster processor - the Galaxy S III has SuperAMOLED Plus, and it also has expandable storage. Both, in my opinion, are equal to each other: neither are truly better than the other, comprehensively, in any factor. GSMArena notes that the SGS3 chipset, the Enyxos, is not as good as the Tegra 3 chipset present in the One X. Tegra 3 is certainly preferable, since Tegra 3 offers a great gaming experience with exclusive games, such as the recently released Horn.
The Windows Phone 7 phones available right now, to me, are underwhelming, but if rumours are anything to go by, WP8 seems intruging, and may even be a possible contender to the current smartphone superpowers.
The deals I have found, though, note that the HTC One X is cheaper, however, presumably because it was announced earlier.
I have found a HTC One X available for £325 - or alternatively, on contract, £18.50 a month.
The Galaxy S 3, however, costs £410 (T-Mobile), and contract @ £22.75. (For purchase, both devices are second hand, but in Mint condition - boxed, unscratched, no faults etc.)
I used moneysupermarket to find the cheapest contract deals, and CEX to find the cheapest second hand, but mint condition, devices.
However, with the announcement of the Galaxy Note 2 at IFA, as well as, to a lesser extent, the Sony Xperia T (I think Sony phones are sexy), I am deciding whether to hold of for a couple of months. The Galaxy Note 2 may, however, be too big? I've seen the Galaxy Note, and it's a mammoth of a 'phone.' (Currently Galaxy Note users, can you comfortably use a 5.3 inch screen? And would you be able to handle a 5.5 inch screen? How comfortable is it in the hand, and are there times where the size just becomes overwhelming?)
I now think it would not be a good idea to purchase a phone now, a time where the next Nexus phone, and the next iPhone, are due to be released.
While both are most likely out of my price range, (£350 recommended, but £400 absolute limit - doesn't include top-ups, and for monthly deals, £25-£28 monthly - doesn't include upfront payment) would you think it would be worthwhile to wait until the release of the next Android/iOS/WP8 flagship phones, or do you think that nothing major will happen? By major, I mean the S3 or One X become virtually redundant compared to the newly released phones. I have seen recently that HTC are preparing a WP8 device, and are also preparing another flagship phone, for example, while all of us know that the iPhone 5 will soon be released, and the Galaxy Nexus is already approaching it's one year birthday.
Thanks for the help! I will listen to all suggestions, and I am also open to other phones available in the market now, or possibly in the future.
Please, though, do NOT mention BlackBerry's! Or any WP7 phones, at the moment.
EDIT: Ok, after researching the specs for the Galaxy Note 2 - it is basically an enlarged SGS3 - although it has 1GB more RAM, and it's processor is clocked 0.2GHz higher. In that case, I wont specifically wait for the Note 2.
Konflict1471 said:
Hey fellow members of XDA, I hope you're all well!
Anyway, I have a question relating to Android phones. Recently, I purchased a Nexus 7 - I was previously an iOS user, but, after using the Nexus 7 - I found Android was actually on par, if not better than, the iOS experience.
So, although my original plan was to purchase an iPhone 4S - I have decided against that notion - and instead I am planning to buy an Android phone, and possibly even a Windows Phone - once Windows Phone 8 is released.
I will be using the phone for mainly internet browsing, social networking, music, movies, gaming, and perhaps even reading at times - although I already have a Nexus 7 for those, you cannot really take it everywhere despite the size of it, and no 3G/4G severely hamper it's connectivity. By that I mean, you can hardly fit it in your pocket.
Currently, I am thinking about purchasing either the HTC One X - or the Samsung Galaxy S III. Both are great phones, and while HTC has the advantage of Tegra 3 - and a staggering 0.1 GHz faster processor - the Galaxy S III has SuperAMOLED Plus, and it also has expandable storage. Both, in my opinion, are equal to each other: neither are truly better than the other, comprehensively, in any factor. GSMArena notes that the SGS3 chipset, the Enyxos, is not as good as the Tegra 3 chipset present in the One X. Tegra 3 is certainly preferable, since Tegra 3 offers a great gaming experience with exclusive games, such as the recently released Horn.
The Windows Phone 7 phones available right now, to me, are underwhelming, but if rumours are anything to go by, WP8 seems intruging, and may even be a possible contender to the current smartphone superpowers.
The deals I have found, though, note that the HTC One X is cheaper, however, presumably because it was announced earlier.
I have found a HTC One X available for £325 - or alternatively, on contract, £18.50 a month.
The Galaxy S 3, however, costs £410 (T-Mobile), and contract @ £22.75. (For purchase, both devices are second hand, but in Mint condition - boxed, unscratched, no faults etc.)
I used moneysupermarket to find the cheapest contract deals, and CEX to find the cheapest second hand, but mint condition, devices.
However, with the announcement of the Galaxy Note 2 at IFA, as well as, to a lesser extent, the Sony Xperia T (I think Sony phones are sexy), I am deciding whether to hold of for a couple of months. The Galaxy Note 2 may, however, be too big? I've seen the Galaxy Note, and it's a mammoth of a 'phone.' (Currently Galaxy Note users, can you comfortably use a 5.3 inch screen? And would you be able to handle a 5.5 inch screen? How comfortable is it in the hand, and are there times where the size just becomes overwhelming?)
I now think it would not be a good idea to purchase a phone now, a time where the next Nexus phone, and the next iPhone, are due to be released.
While both are most likely out of my price range, (£350 recommended, but £400 absolute limit - doesn't include top-ups, and for monthly deals, £25-£28 monthly - doesn't include upfront payment) would you think it would be worthwhile to wait until the release of the next Android/iOS/WP8 flagship phones, or do you think that nothing major will happen? By major, I mean the S3 or One X become virtually redundant compared to the newly released phones. I have seen recently that HTC are preparing a WP8 device, and are also preparing another flagship phone, for example, while all of us know that the iPhone 5 will soon be released, and the Galaxy Nexus is already approaching it's one year birthday.
Thanks for the help! I will listen to all suggestions, and I am also open to other phones available in the market now, or possibly in the future.
Please, though, do NOT mention BlackBerry's! Or any WP7 phones, at the moment.
EDIT: Ok, after researching the specs for the Galaxy Note 2 - it is basically an enlarged SGS3 - although it has 1GB more RAM, and it's processor is clocked 0.2GHz higher. In that case, I wont specifically wait for the Note 2.
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TL;DR but if you want to get the note II just because of the processor you can overclock the S3 all the way to 2.1 ghz but I recommend not anymore than 1.8/1.9. The S3 is a great phone I have it right now.
Also the One X has a much faster CPU if you look at quadrant scores. But really you get 60 fps on all games basically and butter smooth.
Oh yes, I forgot that you could overclock Android devices... Nonetheless, I doubt 0.1Ghz clock difference will provide a completely different, and better, experience.
Wait for the next Nexus.
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Well, now I sort of need a phone urgently...
I guess I could wait a little bit, but, if I can no longer wait:
HTC One X, or the Samsung Galaxy S III?
Konflict1471 said:
Well, now I sort of need a phone urgently...
I guess I could wait a little bit, but, if I can no longer wait:
HTC One X, or the Samsung Galaxy S III?
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S3
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HTC is a pain to s-off and you have to remove your void stickers and take apart your phone and use a wire to do it....its not fun and very easy to render your device unusable....gs3 is incredibly easy if you like customizing...get a gs3...
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a lot of custom roms and kernels have different radios in them and if you cwm then root your HTC without s-off first then you will not be able to use your WiFi and your device will constantly try to turn it on and kill your battery....so you can unlock it then cwm then root but unless you take it apart first and s-off then it's pointless to Rom it. otherwise you will run into problems. a lot of roms say s-on is ok until you flash and realize your WiFi isn't working...so HTC will give you pain unless you know your device 100 percent inside and out....if you do it make sure you touch the right contacts with the wire at the right timing or you just ruin your phone....had that problem myself and went and bought a gs3 plug it into Odin and let Odin do the magic for you with out opening up your device just to completely unlock it (s-off) gs3 is the way to go....HTC has better processors but they have to turn down the clock because there batterys are horrible....if you want speed and battery life and the option to customize get a Samsung...
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Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
Edit:
Also considering the LG Optimus G now coz the reviews r pretty good
LG isn't as bad as ppl think it is. Nexus products are undoubtedly good.
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AdX9170 said:
Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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well the nexus 4 has a quad core krait at 1.6GHz and a 2GB RAM.. i mean the best u can get for that price now is a 1GHz dual core with max 1GB RAM..
so i'm not sure how to believe the build quality
Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
AdX9170 said:
give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
But the Main drawback of nexus is it does not have a sd card slot if storage not an issue for you then nexus is an option.. I think it will available in 8 and 16 GB ..please correct me if I am wrong..
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for me its best wait another bit because i think google will do like with nexus 7.now lg nexus 8\16,then after a month,2 or 3,also upper storage at a bit more price..just my suggestion,but i seriously think they will do so.Anyways,in that comparison,lg nexus 4 all the way.at least also the sony,but man,a nexus is a nexus!in 2016 probably you will have in this day upcoming the android 8.0 for lg nexus 4.think of it
the hardware matters more to me.. u can always get a custom rom but u cant change the hardware.. and also, im not considering ne phone bigger than 4.7 inches.. so nexus 7 is outta the picture.. so is note 2.
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
christoph411 said:
Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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If HTC or Sony come out with a quad core krait phone il b the first one to buy it
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I feel like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number of reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said there is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest and greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonate shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
cb474 said:
I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I fee like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said their is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest a greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonite shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
The software on the nexus 4 isn't the final version, so wait until the consumer version comes out!
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I'd get the One X+. It's really a joy to hold, looks great, and already has a massive development community.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I wouldn't totally write off the Nexus 4 yet. I'm still considering it. Partly because it is a very good deal, for an unlocked phone. The One X+ or Xperia T and Optimus G will probably cost almost twice as much, unlocked.
And I think devgee is correct that the review units for the Nexus 4 did not have the final consumer version of the software on them yet. This might address the battery life and cpu benchmark issues. (It's unfortunate the reviews get published on devices that aren't really what will ship, because any improvements or changes can get overlooked later. I don't know if these reviewers will go back and retest the device.)
For me, it's the minimal storage on the Nexus 4 that makes me hesitate the most, but maybe I can learn to live with it.
If you like the Optimus G, it's definitely worth considering, since it doesn't have the storage limitations of the Nexus 4, and it tested well for battery life and in the cpu benchmarks. And some versions have a higher resolution 13MP camera. But you give up the pure Android experience. And as James.UBC points out, I don't know that it will have as many custom ROM options as the One X+. I don't really like the design of the Optimus G, but that is entirely a superficial reason not to get it and only my personal taste. Some people think it looks great.
I agree that it would be nice to have the S4 Pro chipset. You can also get this in the Asus Padfone 2, which is a cool phone. It also has 2GB of RAM, the Adreno 320, LTE (for certain frequencies), a 2140 mAh battery, and 16/32/64GB storage options. Plus there's the tablet attachement, if you're into that. Its big downside is that it may have no custom ROMs for it at all, if you want that. I think the original Padfone had basically no development. It's a bit puzzling, because this is a cool phone.
I also agree with James.UBC that the One X+ has a great design. To me its main downsides are that it will be much more expensive than the Nexus 4, unlocked (probably $600US or more). And I don't know if it will have an unlocked bootloader, depending on which version I want to get. And even if it does, I'll have to wait for the development community to catch up and release a ROM that will give me a stock-like Android experience (I don't like Sense). And of course, it has a very good CPU, but one from the previous generation of architecture. I tend to keep my phones for a while, so something that is as future proof as possible is good for me.
Anyway, I recommend that you read reviews of the devices you're interested in on the sites I mentioned in my first post and search around for other reviews. Reviews are easy to find and you get a sense pretty quickly of how thoughtful and knowledgeable the reviewer is. Then keep an eye out in the reviews for comments about the features that matter to you and any problems mentioned. I wouldn't take any one particular review as necessarily right. But if you read several, you start to get a feel for what the issues are.
In the end, you probably can't go wrong with any of these devices either. It really comes down to a matter of personal taste and which features are most important to you. No one device is the best one for everybody.
Thanks a lot cb474.. for me, storage is very important and so is camera.. price comes later in the priority list.. development is also important..
nexus 4 will only have 11~12GB of user available space.. on my x10, i have a 16GB microsd with an ext3 partition of ~700MB which is almost full.. in spite of that i have used up more than 11GB on the sd so i dont think 11GB overall free mem will b enough for me
so my options should be the optimus g (which has an average camera), one x+ (has old generation hardware), xperia t (has dual core with only 1GB ram)... arggghhh!!!
padphone 2 is also gr8 but if theres no dev on it then i'm not willing to go for it
ok this thread has reached a dead end for now.. will wait for the said phones to release and get better reviews..
thanks folks!!
Yeah, it's a hard decision to make. I remain torn between the Nexus 4 and One X+. I care about storage too. 16GB is just a little paltry, for the reasons you point out. At least 32GB would have been nice. Some people think there's a chance there will be a refresh of the Nexus 4 in a few months, with more storage. But I've learned my lesson in the past, about waiting around for rumored and speculated phones.
I'm also a little concerned about the mediocre battery life the Nexus 4 is currently getting, although it's with pre-release software. I'm a bit in a wait and see mode on that.
I agree that as nice as the Padfone 2 is, without development, it's ruled out for me. I presonally would not consider the Sony because of the dual core processor.
It's true the One X+ has a previous generation hardware, but only six months ago it was cutting edge, so I feel like it's splitting hairs a bit. On the other hand, if gaming is important to you the newer generation cpu and gpu in the Nexus 4/Optimus G will make a difference. The bigger long term (future proof) limitation of the One X+, to me, is the 1GB or RAM. But I think it's still a nice phone worth considering.
Still, as I said, if you like the Optimus G, it seems like a good choice. Yeah the One X+ camera hardware is better, it's software is supposed to have a slightly annoying continuous autofocus function. But on some level all these phones are good enough. The great phone cameras are in the Nokia phones, the Lumia 920 and the 808 Pureview. Unless that's super imporant to you, I think it may not be the most important point for the decision.
Good luck in deciding. I'm waiting for more reviews too.
So I saw this today on a new HTC model the M7. A few of the specs have leaked, but nothing substantial. Take a look at what we know so far:
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"The HTC Droid DNA has been on the market for only two weeks (and we’re still waiting on the international launch for the HTC DLX), but HTC is already focused on its next flagship device. According to multiple sources, HTC is working with semiconductor and casing suppliers in an effort to secure enough components to manufacture 4 to 5 million units of the HTC M7 in Q1 of 2013.
Exact specifications of the mysterious HTC M7 are a bit vague, but with a little bit of research we’ve been able to pull together quite a bit of information about the phone. Form what we can gather, the HTC M7 will feature a 5-inch HD display, a uni-body aluminum shell, Qualcomm APQ8064 quad-core processor and a 13 megapixel camera."
Welcome to the smartphone industry. Its like clockwork and always will be
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So I saw this today on a new HTC model the M7. A few of the specs have leaked, but nothing substantial. Take a look at what we know so far:
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"The HTC Droid DNA has been on the market for only two weeks (and we’re still waiting on the international launch for the HTC DLX), but HTC is already focused on its next flagship device. According to multiple sources, HTC is working with semiconductor and casing suppliers in an effort to secure enough components to manufacture 4 to 5 million units of the HTC M7 in Q1 of 2013.
Exact specifications of the mysterious HTC M7 are a bit vague, but with a little bit of research we’ve been able to pull together quite a bit of information about the phone. Form what we can gather, the HTC M7 will feature a 5-inch HD display, a uni-body aluminum shell, Qualcomm APQ8064 quad-core processor and a 13 megapixel camera."
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Not the DNA on steroids, more like...the exact same specs as the DNA in an aluminum case. So it'll basically be the One X+++ and will go to the crappy carriers to bolster their failing markets, or go to Europe. New Year rumors for HTC devices usually means a GSM release. Wake me when HTC actually creates a unified device line instead of their scatter-shot releases like they promised last year.
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Welcome to the smartphone industry. Its like clockwork and always will be
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IPhone 5 and Droid DNA hybrid. I think HTC has sunk to a new desperate low. Paying off Apple and releasing every product they have on every operating system and hoping one sticks.
Here is some advice HTC. Having something that remotely resembles a plan will do wonders rather than going full throttle without a plan.
I'm not entirely certain why people with the DNA are upset?
It was clear from the DNAs specs that HTC would have a better flagship next year (the DNAs camera is the same as the HOX).
As predicted, aside from physical changes, the only thing new is the Camera.
So, Verizon customers get a device 4 months before everyone else, sacrificing only a camera and aluminum unibody. Not a bad deal TBH.
HTC needs something exciting like bringing back the aluminum unibody. The Desire HD is a fantastically solid device, and the HTC M7, if real, is a perfect replacement.
Surprised Qualcomm hasn't announced a better SoC than the APQ they are using currently...
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Surprised Qualcomm hasn't announced a better SoC than the APQ they are using currently...
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I'll be waiting to see if a phone comes out with the MSM8974 under the hood. :fingers-crossed:
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I'll be waiting to see if a phone comes out with the MSM8974 under the hood. :fingers-crossed:
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More likely this...
At present, this [S4 Pro] is the same Krait CPU as what we've seen in MSM8960 in phones like the USA versions of the Galaxy S 3 and HTC One X. Later on, Krait v3 will emerge with higher IPC and shorter critical paths (and clocks up to 1.7 or 2 GHz) and a resulting 10-15% boost in performance. For now however we're looking at 1.5 GHz APQ8064 with a Krait v2 inside and Qualcomm's newest scalar GPU architecture with Adreno 320. We're going to talk more about Adreno 320 closer to devices shipping, when Qualcomm feels comfortable talking architecture.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Architecturally, S4 Pro is just S4 with two additional cores and a different GPU.
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I'll be waiting to see if a phone comes out with the MSM8974 under the hood. :fingers-crossed:
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Yes the MSM8974 should be a beast... Supposed to start showing up next yr though...
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More likely this...
At present, this [S4 Pro] is the same Krait CPU as what we've seen in MSM8960 in phones like the USA versions of the Galaxy S 3 and HTC One X. Later on, Krait v3 will emerge with higher IPC and shorter critical paths (and clocks up to 1.7 or 2 GHz) and a resulting 10-15% boost in performance. For now however we're looking at 1.5 GHz APQ8064 with a Krait v2 inside and Qualcomm's newest scalar GPU architecture with Adreno 320. We're going to talk more about Adreno 320 closer to devices shipping, when Qualcomm feels comfortable talking architecture.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Architecturally, S4 Pro is just S4 with two additional cores and a different GPU.
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I still hate how they coined the quad core as the s4 pro bc originally the S4 Pro was the MSM8960 Pro SoC which was the 8960 with the higher better GPU..... Then ppl started calling the quad the pro...
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i will so buy this if it comes out!!!
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i will so buy this if it comes out!!!
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Don't we all have a DNA who ever is posting in this thread no reason at all to upgrade because it's not an upgrade except for the camera.
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Don't we all have a DNA who ever is posting in this thread no reason at all to upgrade because it's not an upgrade except for the camera.
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truth is nobody really knows yet.
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I still hate how they coined the quad core as the s4 pro bc originally the S4 Pro was the MSM8960 Pro SoC which was the 8960 with the higher better GPU..... Then ppl started calling the quad the pro...
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Are you sure it wasn't the "Plus" and some people thought it was "Pro"? It is officially called "Plus" now at least.
I've seen stuff like this happen though. My HTC Touch had a "micro usb" port for charging which the manual and other references stated. Then that plug somehow became "Mini" and the "Micro" is now a different one. I remembered I wanted to buy another charger on Amazon a year or so after getting the phone and was very confused until I figured out that they changed the name.
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Don't we all have a DNA who ever is posting in this thread no reason at all to upgrade because it's not an upgrade except for the camera.
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Yeah, I'll take the plastic. It might scratch easier, but I like the feel of the DNA and the plastic protects the internals more from the shocks of impacts.
Maybe it's because my first phone was an HTC, but I always find myself rooting (oh, the puns) for them. I guess it's the whole underdog thing. But they need to ditch the carrier exclusive nonsense. There should be a flagship device pushed out across the bigger carriers, and that's that.
I have the thunderbolt, and my memory isn't short. I ask myself what will happen in 2 years with this phone? I'm still waiting for ICS on my bolt. What assurance do I have that the DNA or any subsequent phone wont end up in the same boat after the initial craze dies down?
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
I expected this device next year with a better camera and krait v3 process. I don't know why everyone is bashing HTC. The DNA was a Verizon and Japan exclusive just for the winter to compete with note 2. This device is going to compete with galaxy s4 the reason why they released the DNA and butterfly this year and exclusive is because if this was international then next year they would have had to release another phone with a better camera and processor to compete with galaxy s4.
The fact that they have done the national beta release and an official international release they have avoided the mistake they made with sensation-xe and one x+x+. Rather this time they have released the next year flagship exclusive to see what the flaws are so next year it will not be hit and miss like the one x. They have also got a new marketing VP so it looks Like they are taking things seriously. Some people on Xda need to stop bashing HTC as their flagship cycle has changed for the better the people who bought the DNA are stupid if they wanted this as they should have waited.
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don't know.... the name's m7, to me that sounds like tablet area, if not, it's probably the eu version of the dna, like the codename for the one x is endeavor it's probably something like that, what was once being rumored as the htc zeta is today the dna 5inch qualcomm quad and all.
Thats upsetting, but this is the way of the smartphone world and always will be. I wonder if the camera will be much better?
Hopefully it comes out in the next 14 days so I can exchange my DNA LOL.
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Hopefully it comes out in the next 14 days so I can exchange my DNA LOL.
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Shame on u lol
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