Looking to pick up a gnote1 - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I am going to be cutting my ties to big red and am going to get a gnote1 from Swappa or somewhere (attention version) and go to straight Talk. I have read through lots of threads and I think with the gnote2 coming soon I would just get a great deal on the gnote1.
So my question is to the people or even the developers. Would you stick with the 1 or go to the 2. Will Samsung support this device for awhile?
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Well if you're looking for a 1, try canadagsm.ca. $525
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madman604 said:
Well if you're looking for a 1, try canadagsm.ca. $525
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Swappa has them rooted for less than 4
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And they are all over craigslist for less than $200. Use a little common sense here. Once the Note2 is released many Devs and Recognized Contributors will move on. That is a fact of life here on XDA. It has and will always be this way. So development will slow but there will be development. Samsung has spoken that there should be a JB release for this phone. Not much more that can be said.

Galaxy Note
Samsung will at least support Jelly Bean - past that, I don't know. That being said, it's a great phone with a lot of potential, could definitely last you a while. I'm not sure when the Note 2 is coming out, but I've seen rumors of an Oct 24 release. When that day hits, you might see a larger drop in note 1 prices.

Thank you for your responses. I ended up getting one. I am loving it so far. For what I have read there seems to be lots of emphasis on kernels and "modems"?
I am familiar with flashing roms and flashing kernels for a rom. But not modems?
I just downloaded cm9 so well see how it goes.
Again thank you for your responses
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If you have no issues with your phone or data connection then there is no reason to flash a modem. If it is working, don't mess with it. Kernels are really only needed for another level of customization or to overclock. If the custom ROM you install does well then again feel fortunate and leave it alone. If there are issues then others in the ROMs thread and even the Dev will recommend kernels to try.

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If you have no issues with your phone or data connection then there is no reason to flash a modem. If it is working, don't mess with it. Kernels are really only needed for another level of customization or to overclock. If the custom ROM you install does well then again feel fortunate and leave it alone. If there are issues then others in the ROMs thread and even the Dev will recommend kernels to try.
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I will keep this in mind. Thanks for your knowledge. I am new to Samsung so I am not sure about certain things. I have owned all htc devices. So I am on a steep learning curve.
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Hungry for new rom...

is any dev working on new rom?
you have to be patient & bare with it. It's always slow in the beginning & it picks up later on. Tomorrow I'll be switching from a N7000 to i717 but it will be well worth it in the long run.
I heard Team Kang (AOKP) and Codename want to release a rom for us. Maybe in the next few weeks or in few months, that's what we don't know.
I just Rooted, put cwm, and overclocked thanks to da-g. Check out his posts in development forums... seems to be working really well!
All of his files are found here... http://m-s-j.net/dagnarf/
Before you go there check of this post...Overclocking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504920
Rooting:+more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962
Good luck!
have you checked out saurom? i just flashed my phone with it a couple days ago
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I heard Team Kang (AOKP) and Codename want to release a rom for us. Maybe in the next few weeks or in few months, that's what we don't know.
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Source?
And our problem is that we only have a couple of devs and relatively low interest in this device all together
It's only been a month... You can't ask for a source for something and then claim something equally unbelievable. You all need to calm down. It's been one freaking month.
If you're going to keep knocking the device, why are you still here?
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Kromatrix said:
It's only been a month... You can't ask for a source for something and then claim something equally unbelievable. You all need to calm down. It's been one freaking month.
If you're going to keep knocking the device, why are you still here?
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I simply haven't heard anything about aokp for this device when not a single dev has mentioned anything about an ics build. although I'm sure we'll see something after the official ics release.
How am I knocking the device? I like my note. It's safe to say this won't have as wide of a dev adoption as the s2, Atrix, skyrocket, and one x. Mostly due to the release schedule.
I'm still here because this is still one of my hobbies
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Maroon Mushroom said:
I simply haven't heard anything about aokp for this device when not a single dev has mentioned anything about an ics build. although I'm sure we'll see something after the official ics release.
How am I knocking the device? I like my note. It's safe to say this won't have as wide of a dev adoption as the s2, Atrix, skyrocket, and one x. Mostly due to the release schedule.
I'm still here because this is still one of my hobbies
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You do like the device? Every post of yours I see is you ripping the device and all its problems, real or perceived.
sent from my iPhone killers killer, Samsung Galaxy Note.
If you think the atrix has had good development for its entire life, you're sorely mistaken. It took even longer for the atrix to get a proper rom compared to us.
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Maroon Mushroom said:
It's safe to say this won't have as wide of a dev adoption as the s2, Atrix, skyrocket, and one x.
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Just an FYI, I had an Atrix on day one and the same things were said about it a month after release (not much dev adoption, low interest in device, etc). So if the Atrix has such great adoption and dev support, then I think it's safe to say it's only a matter of time for this device, too.
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Just an FYI, I had an Atrix on day one and the same things were said about it a month after release (not much dev adoption, low interest in device, etc). So if the Atrix has such great adoption and dev support, then I think it's safe to say it's only a matter of time for this device, too.
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Yup, had Atrix on launch day, everyone said the same thing. Man.. that was a long road... I don't think we had a proper CWM until maybe..4-6 months in? Lol, it was such a volatile forum. Everyone hating everyone.
There's definitely a lot of development going on there now so we good. Not as crazy as other phones though, but pretty good.
The collective has two roms coming out real soon
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dsmitty166 said:
The collective has two roms coming out real soon
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can't wait..
dsmitty166 said:
The collective has two roms coming out real soon
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I hope you are right!!!!
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I come from the HD2. When I got the phone, it was so hard to get that there were entire threads dedicated to when/where you got yours. Every store sold out the day the trucks ran, sometimes within minutes.
It took forever to get a decent version of Android to boot up, and for an entire year we were stuck with SD versions until they finally got a hacked-up bootloader that could get NAND installed.
Even today, that is one of the heaviest dev'd phones this forum has ever seen, running every version of Windows Mobile, Android and even several flavors of Linux. I don't think that this phone will come close to the activity seen there, but if it does I wouldn't expect to have this phone completely unlocked and running as many ROMs as the HD2 any time this year.
Many people keep saying, "It's only been a month!" and I can only agree with that. I would be disappointed but not surprised to see no significant developments on this phone in the next 4 months. As a matter of fact, I really expect to see an official ICS release before CM9 hits us.
But I've been wrong before...
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I hope you are right!!!!
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Of course I'm right, I'm testing them both right now
When you say "real soon" do u mean within the coming few days?
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tman23 said:
When you say "real soon" do u mean within the coming few days?
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The last I knew, one of them "might" be coming out in the next few days, not sure on the other
TWO roms from the Collective?
Why TWO? What is so significant between them that requires TWO different versions? Unless one is for the international version and one for the ATT version (the only thing I can think of)...

New AT&T User

Hey guys!
I just received my Galaxy Note from AT&T (previously a T-Mobile G2 user), and am wondering about custom ROMs.
I used a MIUI ROM on my G2 with T-Mobile, but am more interested in ICS and the international capabilities of the Note (Premium suite, apps, etc). Do we not get those apps?
Are there any custom ROMs you guys would recommend for a new user?
Thanks!
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Are there any custom ROMs you guys would recommend for a new user?
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Start Here:
Get CWM installed - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586223
This is the most stock ICS (an a good solid ROM to start with):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
This is the best (IMHO) of the ICS ROMs. It's due for an update very shortly - but it's the only one to really take advantage of the capability of ICS to handle tablet mode:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1581065
yesshh said:
Hey guys!
I just received my Galaxy Note from AT&T (previously a T-Mobile G2 user), and am wondering about custom ROMs.
I used a MIUI ROM on my G2 with T-Mobile, but am more interested in ICS and the international capabilities of the Note (Premium suite, apps, etc). Do we not get those apps?
Are there any custom ROMs you guys would recommend for a new user?
Thanks!
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Team perfections ics is the best ics rom ive tried fjs is ok but scrolling is a mess..if u want to stay on gb saurom 7.1 or emily is the way to go
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froidroid said:
There's no reason to say anything bad about anyone's rom. If you like apps rom, then say just that. Theres no reason to point out what you think is horrible scrolling. They're both excellent roms and both are very smooth. Go to the threads and read up. Or better yet, try them and see what fits your needs the best.
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It's an opinion and we are entitled to it.
Deleted for the same reasons as my 1st post. Again....my apologies. Of course now that both of my posts have been quoted, I guess your stuck with my opinion.:banghead:
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froidroid said:
Deleted for the same reasons as my 1st post. Again....my apologies. Of course now that both of my posts have been quoted, I guess your stuck with my opinion.:banghead:
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I understand. I'm not new to ROMs, but I find it easier to ask for opinions than to try flashing endless ROMs. I'm having a hard time believing rooting and all is even worth it. But I'm hoping some of you veteran Note users' will provide me with a little more incentive to flash or keep stock.
I'm sure he meant no disrespect to the developers, and hopefully they take no offense.
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If you're a fan of baredone then try cm9 or aokp. They are amazingly fast and surprisingly stable.
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Check out ONLYONE rom.... includes s-voice and s-note... Its amazingly fast and smooth...
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yesshh said:
I understand. I'm not new to ROMs, but I find it easier to ask for opinions than to try flashing endless ROMs. I'm having a hard time believing rooting and all is even worth it. But I'm hoping some of you veteran Note users' will provide me with a little more incentive to flash or keep stock.
I'm sure he meant no disrespect to the developers, and hopefully they take no offense.
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Your choice but my opinion is as follows. You have a great device with capabilities far beyond those which it was sold with(GB), so you could stay with your awesome device and never know its "full" potential. Adversely, you could unleash the beast with a little research and gumption... Think portable wireless hotspots and ease of use modifications and custom works allowing you to customize your device. With stock gb it generally takes 2 to 4 more steps to achieve the same goal in custom GB. Same with ICS... These are my opinions and individual experience may vary... Ultimately its up to you how excited about your device you get, and how much research you do to ensure a great experience.
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Your choice but my opinion is as follows. You have a great device with capabilities far beyond those which it was sold with(GB), so you could stay with your awesome device and never know its "full" potential. Adversely, you could unleash the beast with a little research and gumption... Think portable wireless hotspots and ease of use modifications and custom works allowing you to customize your device. With stock gb it generally takes 2 to 4 more steps to achieve the same goal in custom GB. Same with ICS... These are my opinions and individual experience may vary... Ultimately its up to you how excited about your device you get, and how much research you do to ensure a great experience.
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Yeah I ended up trying a few, and nothing seemed stable enough. We won't have to wait too much longer for ICS and premium suite I am sure!
I say if you're fine with GB go with unofficial rom. Best laid out in my opinion and with holokernel incredibly fast and smooth. For ics I say forget about your s pen and try cm9. I missed notes at the beginning but with how fluid everything is and problem free of a build this is I try not to think of that plastic pen jammed into my phone and just enjoy ics for what it is and what it should be on any android phone without all the little touches manufacturers throw in trying to make their phone a special snowflake in an industry of special individual snowflakes. Just my two cents anyhow
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Switching to another phone possibly from LGOG =(

I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
PhonePhan said:
I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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Patience is key. You can't force a dev to make a ROM or "develop" for a device. They have lives as well. Everything is pretty close to being here.
Besides if your not likening the "Development" you can always try and make a ROM buddy. Then maybe you can see how its not done overnight.
Oh look this thread again
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On the One X we went months before we had what we have here. Locked boot loader, an unrootable stock release and no source.
How can you call the Free Gee project and the N4 conversion and such slow development? /boggle
I felt the same way at first, and I am probably going to buy the moto X phone or the gsIV, but right now you just gotta find a room you like and settle into it.
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Btw I came to this phone from the sgs3. A huge dev section isn't the only thing to base buying a phone.on. this phone has some sweet hardware. Excellent build quality, and awesome speed. I'm in love.
@Phonephan, I totally hear where you're coming from. I would have hoped for more options by now as well, but I knew what I was getting into when I picked this bad boy up and that there was the chance its potential would go unrealized. However, Rome wasn't built in a day and there have been some unique challenges that some very good developers are about to overcome. Our empire is about to be built! We've already got a solid JB build that doesn't require conversion thanks to SnowLeopardJB. There are a couple solid ICS ROM's as well (shout out to team nocturnal, nygfan, etc.) The real treats are just around the corner and if you check in to the irc chat room you will see just how close. Hang in there bro, you'll be glad you did.
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PhonePhan said:
I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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You need an N4. Oh wait this phone can become one... What are you looking for that the existing custom stock roms or conversion don't provide?
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You need an N4. Oh wait this phone can become one... What are you looking for that the existing custom stock roms or conversion don't provide?
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Nexus 4 with GPS and LTE.
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whats a rom?
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whats a rom?
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half of a rom-com?
XsMagical said:
whats a rom?
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Something that wasn't built in a day?
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Ah well I've never built one of those. All mine take a few hours
Stroked from my Dirty Nocturnal'd Optimus G
This thread needs to get closed before things get ugly...
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A rom is a pile of code that makes my sh!t look cooler than the dude's phone next to me... aka, bragging rights!
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There are devs lurking, just be patient and see what happens. Until then go convert your Optimus G to an N4 like others have stated..
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Funny to think that just a few years ago modifying the OS on your phone was not an option. Now folks cry when they don't have 100 variations of the same base rom within a week or two.
Maybe buy a device you like next time. Or wait longer and not buy the device on launch day, that way you can give the dev community time to work thereby ensuring you get an active community to take care of your flashing fix.
Why exactly do you feel the need to tell us that you're leaving? Did you do any development? Write any documentation? Are you afraid we wouldn't notice you were gone?
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Seriously!? We have an ICS phone that developers have transformed into an upgraded nexus 4. Other developers have domesticated foreign JB Roms so well that this phone has every feature enabled today. We may only have a few topics... But major progress happens in them. This is the height of Android options with native pure Google and branded on the most recent versions.
You can install Roms from 3 forums onto this phone... US OG, Intl OG and N4.
The conversion will really pay off in six months when this is the first device with SD card and full android 5 while every other phone has gmail 5... Converted to 4.1
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Okay...
Didn't see that coming. If you look at my post I said I'm possibly getting a new phone not telling you I am and I was asking people if they felt the same. Also it's been months since its release so the fact that it's only 2 real ROMs for this phone makes me upset no, disrespect to devs obviously but it does seem like this phone is getting like no attention and it's one if the best phones out. Converting to n4 is a bit too much just to enjoy this phone. This phone was meant to be an LGOG not a nexus ..it would have been named nexus
Anyways that was just a thought/concern I had about the phone.. Don't see why people are offended?
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Nobody bothered to develop ICS Roms other than pretty much stock based ones since we were promised Jelly Bean so early and obviously that didn't happen. Once Jelly Bean gets officially released, I know the devs will be all over it and Roms won't be an issue. The nexus 4 conversion is easy to do, I did it intoxicated twice. So either do that or just be patient. We're just waiting on AT&T now
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Lack of development?

I'm just curious as to why Verizon note 2 is lacking so much in the ROM development side of things compared to other carriers. Is it solely because we are still only 4.1.1? Just thought it would be interesting to see peoples input!
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By the way, sorry if this is in the wrong thread :/
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
Oops! Sorry for taking up space Haha. Didn't look too far into the forums for anything related.
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
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Only a quarter of a year ago....And even in the thread you linked there were whiny people complaining that someone else at some point had asked the question. Lighten up.
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Yet Scott just released a zip that will allow us to flash t mobile, and att roms. Give me a moment, and I will find the thread, and post it here. If you want to see a dead phone, go look at the rezound. The phone is barely a year and a half old, and it is marching into obscurity. The droid incredible has more action. These threads aren't going to produce more roms, just bad attitudes. Try playing with all of the mods we have, and theme it to whatever you want it to be. Morphology, Xposed, and a slew of others. Troll the other carriers threads, and pull mods that you want. That is all we can ask for, unless you are paying the devs a paycheck.
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HughesNet said:
. Lighten up.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Yes, really.
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jbrown30 said:
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Which have you tried? Both Jedi and Jelly Beans are both great. I am using the mod in my sig right now as I like that it keeps the samsung allshare features working.
With a combination of Jelly Beans, Widget Locker, and a theme you could pretty much get anything done you want. Pick up the odd app or mod here and there to fill in the gaps.
By the way, if you want to give 4.1.2 a go Jedi is running that. It is great if you don't need the Samsung services.
Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
Most source built ROMs (AOSP) are going to have issues, whether major or minor, and are much easier to customize as you're dealing with XML and java. However, the lack of TW features keep people away from them.
With TouchWiz ROMs, you don't lose any functionality, but there is only so much that smali hacking can do. Most of this is just the time consuming nature of trying to hack a ROM via smali only. You could get everything in your favorite source built ROM if you wanted to take the time to do so. But, given that this is a for-fun thing and not a money making venture, developers aren't likely to take that amount of time if they wouldn't use it themselves.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
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I would definitely prefer a few quality roms with great support than 27 versions of cyanogenmod that are 98% the same. Beans, MeanBean, Tweaked, Jedi, Elemental...that should be plenty to keep the crack flashers happy.
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Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Appreciate the input man!
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What is a rom really? To me It's just a better version of what the manufacturer builds. The stuff is basically the same for the most part with the addition of tweaks for better battery performance etc... That are added by the dev. The thing that makes a rom different are the things like themes and different looking batteries etc..., so why have 100 roms that essentially are the same? I would prefer to have 1 rom that performs well with a bunch of themes and mods hence i only use meanbean and love the real icon theme, or morphology. Mean bean is a great rom and with pbj kernel even better.
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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This answer makes me glad I didn't flame you last night when I was drunk haha. Meanbean plus morphology is plenty of customization for me haha
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stock android firmware has evolved into something so much better than it use to be...im still on beans build 2 because it flatout works and has all the things I need. Its hard to develop when stock touchwiz is so good out of the box. the only real thing that touchwiz needs is themeing. beans takes the cake on that. aosp was nice on my gs1 because it trimmed the fat and made the ol single core with limited ram run smooth. these quad core beasts are designed to handle bloat and a festure rich skins(touchwiz), so aosp does not have the appeal and performance advantage it use to. however for the folks that
keep this device well past tthe point verizon quits supporting it, then aosp will shine...simply for the fact it will bring the latest android offerings and keep the note 2 alive.
I think it had A LOT to do with TW and Spen/Note 2 specific features. Nobody really wants to lose them, and there's only so many ways to mess with TW. There's plenty of AOSP/KP stuff but look at the involvement compared to TW roms... It's there, but not as much... My take on it anyway.
Edit: Yeah, what Droidstyle said, lol.
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Don't forget that Samsung has promised an update to 4.2 for the Note II sometime this year. No real timetable, but when it comes it will be a shot in the arm for development.
Myself, I bounce between Beans ROM and CyanogenMod. The S-Pen features are what generally keep me hopping, but both are good.

Lack development on the HTC DNA

I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
Might I suggest checking out the development and original development threads?
You can currently follow along with joelz while they trouble shoot a new port.
AOSP
CM10
MIUI
Sense 4
Sense 5
Several kernels
Looks like development to me.
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cuseme said:
I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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Hmm... Can't tell if serious or troll
shobon said:
What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
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You may be blind sir...
cstrife999 said:
You may be blind sir...
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Im thinking that may be the case
Bigandrewgold said:
Im thinking that may be the case
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In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
cstrife999 said:
In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
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Braille
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skeet43169 said:
Braille
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... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
cstrife999 said:
... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
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Seriously, is there something you want that is not developed such as a specific rom, kernel, recovery, etc?
I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
Mnorton1228 said:
I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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Is it because they are mostly built from the same base? I can see that being confusing to some, thinking there is no real development going on.. However, the same base != the same rom. There is real development going on for our device and all other devices on these forums.. I for one feel we have plenty to choose from and things are only going to get better and easier down the road... May have an official Sense 5 rom for the devs to play around with if Verizon gets things going.. I love it here!! Am I wrong? :good: :highfive::highfive:
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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That was sarcasm. In other words most of our roms have a completely different feel. On the GNex there were a lot of dups for sure.
Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
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We also have MIUI!!!
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_phoey said:
Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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Don't get me wrong, its an amazing phone that could easily compete with the SGS4, but it's Verizon exclusive so it never made it to that status. It was a mistake on Verizons and HTCs part to make this beast a carrier exclusive.
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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well, considering that verizon sells the iphone and the SGS4 (and the SGS3 if you want to talk about 2012), will them having close to 50% and 30% market share, respectively, i dont really see how the DNA could have been anywhere near a top seller. not to mention the note 2 and others. i would probably label this phone "unpopular". most people have never even heard of this phone. i'm glad they are making the "droid" branding exclusive to motorola. the DNA's exclusivity to Verizon killed the awesome potential this phone had. but still, i think we have awesome development. except, i dont understand why we have 5 million aosp roms.

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