Is anybody using a headset other than Sony Ericsson/ Sony? If yes, do you have any problems?
I'm looking for a new pair and I'd like to have the microphone and remote controls (either one, two or three buttons; configureable with the Jay's or Nocs Headset App from the play store) working.
So far I used the standard headset that came with the phone and had the earphones changed but unfortunately it broke. So I was thinking about either getting this (very cheap) one from htc and change the earphones one more time or maybe some proper ones like Sennheisers, Jay's, Nocs or whatever.
Does it matter if they are actually "made for the iPhone"?
I just shipped a pair of SE LiveSound back as the LiveKey didn't work; simply, it wasn't recognized by the SE App (old and new) at all. Other keys worked but the Headset wasn't really satisfying in general as the phones fell out easily (e.g. while running or even just walking).
Thanks for your help.
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Is anybody using a non-SE/SONY headset?
n.droid said:
Is anybody using a non-SE/SONY headset?
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Yes I use creative headset and works great.
I had the same problem so I just got my self the blue tooth dobgle with music control keys it was about 25$ but now I can use any headphones
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n.droid said:
Is anybody using a headset other than Sony Ericsson/ Sony? If yes, do you have any problems?
I'm looking for a new pair and I'd like to have the microphone and remote controls (either one, two or three buttons; configureable with the Jay's or Nocs Headset App from the play store) working.
So far I used the standard headset that came with the phone and had the earphones changed but unfortunately it broke. So I was thinking about either getting this (very cheap) one from htc and change the earphones one more time or maybe some proper ones like Sennheisers, Jay's, Nocs or whatever.
Does it matter if they are actually "made for the iPhone"?
I just shipped a pair of SE LiveSound back as the LiveKey didn't work; simply, it wasn't recognized by the SE App (old and new) at all. Other keys worked but the Headset wasn't really satisfying in general as the phones fell out easily (e.g. while running or even just walking).
Thanks for your help.
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The HTC headphone is not In Ear/ noise isolating, so all the external noise will enter your ear while listening to music.
I am using LiveSound headset, and the live key WORKS. you have to use Sony Smart Connect app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonyericsson.extras.liveware&feature=search_result
But to be frank, after using the live key for some while, i found out you really don't really need the extra key, because you can only launch apps by pressing it, but you cannot change tracks while playing a song, or other in app function.
No iPhone headsets are going to work with Ray as the headset connector configuration is different. You need an extra connector. Some headphones offer that, some doesn't. My friend bought a Philips SHH 7810, which was by default compatible with iPhone but also came with a connector for Xperia 2011 and Nokia phones.
And well, your phone fell out while walking? How is that possible?
read this: http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/31455
"There are two major standards out there for headsets, OMTP and CTIA. Sony Ericsson phones follow the OMTP standard along with other manufacturers, while other follows the CTIA standard.
The difference of these two standards is the wiring to the 3,5mm plug. Therefore if you connect a CTIA headset to a Sony Ericsson phone you might get reduced functionality or it might not work at all. (Depending on accessory and phone model)
When it comes to headphones (no mic) there is only one standard out there, so any 3,5mm headphones works with your Sony Ericsson phone."
Derzis said:
"When it comes to headphones (no mic) there is only one standard out there, so any 3,5mm headphones works with your Sony Ericsson phone."
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Well unfortunately the Brainwavz M4 does not work with the Xperia Ray.
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Well unfortunately the Brainwavz M4 does not work with the Xperia Ray.
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Xperia Ray works great with Sennheiser HD201
i hope it will also work with my next headphones: AKG K450
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I have sony headset w/Mic. LiveWare. It works nice. I heard that nokias area also compatible with ray. Monster doesn't work from first hanf experience.
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Thanks guys for all your replies so far!
simon80bl said:
Yes I use creative headset and works great.
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I guess you mean a pair of headphones. I have an old pair of Creative's EP-630 lying around and they work just normally when plugged in. Right now I use these when running, however I really do miss a headset with a remote to be able to switch between the tracks without pulling out the phone. (I use this to store the phone, keys, etc. so it won't bounce around and I can fully recommend it to everybody up to jogging or running. )
arthvpatel said:
I had the same problem so I just got my self the blue tooth dobgle with music control keys it was about 25$ but now I can use any headphones
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I also thought about using a bloetooth device, yet I need it simply "plug 'n play" without many cords and additional gizmos to carry around or settings on the phone to turn on. Using a headset means for me: Plug it in, plug the phones into your ears and you're fine. I'm also not sure how much it would affect the battery life.
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The HTC headphone is not In Ear/ noise isolating, so all the external noise will enter your ear while listening to music.
I am using LiveSound headset, and the live key WORKS. you have to use Sony Smart Connect app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonyericsson.extras.liveware&feature=search_result
But to be frank, after using the live key for some while, i found out you really don't really need the extra key, because you can only launch apps by pressing it, but you cannot change tracks while playing a song, or other in app function.
No iPhone headsets are going to work with Ray as the headset connector configuration is different. You need an extra connector. Some headphones offer that, some doesn't. My friend bought a Philips SHH 7810, which was by default compatible with iPhone but also came with a connector for Xperia 2011 and Nokia phones.
And well, your phone fell out while walking? How is that possible?
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You probably didn't get me right. I had an old pair of in-ear headphones which are quite OK with a broken cable. Luckily I didn't threw them away and had the idea to cut away the phones from the original headset that came with the ray. I cut the (old) in-ears from their cable as well, opened and soldered them to the sony headset cable and thus created my very own version of a headset. However after last summer, the headset button stopped responding properly. (I guess because the remote unit got wet while running)
I used the latest two versions of Smart Connect as well as two old LiveWare Manager apps and it didn't work. At the same time I also tried out different ROMs (PACMAN, FREEXPERIA and SuperleggeraV3) and put a lot of time into trying out all the combinations. The remote worked every time without problems, only the Livekey wasn't configurable. As I ordered it over eBay, there might also be the possibility that they were simply fake as not a single time they were recognized as the LiveSound headset. (I saw on some screenshots that they are actually recognized as such when working properly)
Changing tracks in fact is possible, you can configure the keys to change tracks by holding the Volume UP/ DOWN button. You might try Jay's app or something similar to configure the buttons.
I actually did fancy the Livekey button so I could use it with Google Now as I expect google to develop it further and probably overtake Apple's Siri in its possibilities.
Ultimately, I didn't like the remote buttons (they are built inside in a different way than the Livekey button) and especially the tanglefree cords. The are really hard to tangle, however they are therefore stiffer and since the remote is on one of the ears' cable, the in-ear fell out easily when doing something with the remote. In general they were more eager to slip out with a tange free cable than with a thin one. It also bothered me that they were much more visible due to the flat cable but this is just my pesonal opinion about the look...
Derzis said:
Xperia Ray works great with Sennheiser HD201
i hope it will also work with my next headphones: AKG K450
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I can't speak for the AKG K450 but right now as I'm typing this, I'm listening to my music through a pair AKG K518 DJ headphones connected to the ray, so I guess the K450 should work properly as well.
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I have sony headset w/Mic. LiveWare. It works nice.
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So you can assign any app you want to the Livekey and launch it by pressing it?
n.droid said:
Thanks guys for all your replies so far!
I guess you mean a pair of headphones. I have an old pair of Creative's EP-630 lying around and they work just normally when plugged in. Right now I use these when running, however I really do miss a headset with a remote to be able to switch between the tracks without pulling out the phone. (I use this to store the phone, keys, etc. so it won't bounce around and I can fully recommend it to everybody up to jogging or running. )
I also thought about using a bloetooth device, yet I need it simply "plug 'n play" without many cords and additional gizmos to carry around or settings on the phone to turn on. Using a headset means for me: Plug it in, plug the phones into your ears and you're fine. I'm also not sure how much it would affect the battery life.
You probably didn't get me right. I had an old pair of in-ear headphones which are quite OK with a broken cable. Luckily I didn't threw them away and had the idea to cut away the phones from the original headset that came with the ray. I cut the (old) in-ears from their cable as well, opened and soldered them to the sony headset cable and thus created my very own version of a headset. However after last summer, the headset button stopped responding properly. (I guess because the remote unit got wet while running)
I used the latest two versions of Smart Connect as well as two old LiveWare Manager apps and it didn't work. At the same time I also tried out different ROMs (PACMAN, FREEXPERIA and SuperleggeraV3) and put a lot of time into trying out all the combinations. The remote worked every time without problems, only the Livekey wasn't configurable. As I ordered it over eBay, there might also be the possibility that they were simply fake as not a single time they were recognized as the LiveSound headset. (I saw on some screenshots that they are actually recognized as such when working properly)
Changing tracks in fact is possible, you can configure the keys to change tracks by holding the Volume UP/ DOWN button. You might try Jay's app or something similar to configure the buttons.
I actually did fancy the Livekey button so I could use it with Google Now as I expect google to develop it further and probably overtake Apple's Siri in its possibilities.
Ultimately, I didn't like the remote buttons (they are built inside in a different way than the Livekey button) and especially the tanglefree cords. The are really hard to tangle, however they are therefore stiffer and since the remote is on one of the ears' cable, the in-ear fell out easily when doing something with the remote. In general they were more eager to slip out with a tange free cable than with a thin one. It also bothered me that they were much more visible due to the flat cable but this is just my pesonal opinion about the look...
I can't speak for the AKG K450 but right now as I'm typing this, I'm listening to my music through a pair AKG K518 DJ headphones connected to the ray, so I guess the K450 should work properly as well.
So you can assign any app you want to the Livekey and launch it by pressing it?
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Yup. I heard nokia headsets also work on sony ericsson
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I went to a headphone shop the other day and can confirm that the Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro, DT 770, Audio Technica ATH-M50, Pro5MkII, Shure SRH440, Alessandro MS2i and Goldring DR-150 work fine on this phone.
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best thing to do is buy an Adapter for sony Ericsson.
all Sony Ericsson phones until 2011 are not compatible with standard headsets.. Sony Smartphones are compatible with Standard Headsets. and it's rare to find a headsets that are compatible with SE. so, buying a cheap Adapter is the best thing to do. ^_^
is Sony MDR-XB500 compatible?
I'm using the bluetooth jabra halo2 headset :
http://www.jabra.com/Products/Bluetooth/JABRA_HALO2/Jabra_HALO2
it has also a micro and some volume controls.
You can also use it with a wire, this is a little adapter cable included for SE phones ...
i use beats solo hd and there is no sound..
i think beats is not compatible with our ray..
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I want to buy ultimate ears headset with built in microphone. Does anyone if they would work with x10 mini ? It says works with iPod, iPhone, MP3 players.
I'm guessing not, as the X10mini/pro headset has extra connectors on the side (hence the keyhole shaped earphone socket)
If you can try before you buy that would be your best bet. Ive tried many that wont play sound out of the headphones much less use the mics. It seems like A LOT of headphones especially ones with mics don't work with the phone.
I bought headset from mytrendyphone.co.uk. I bought Jabra BT3030 and its really a best buy.
It all depends on the wiring standard thats used on the TRRS mini jack..
I think this is how it is on the X10 (and also iPhone, HTC, Blackberry etc..)
1 Tip Left Audio Out
2 Ring 1 Right Audio Out
3 Ring 2 Ground
4 Sleeve Microphone Input\answer button
I know Nokia have pin 3 and 4 swapped around so wont work with the X10, and there may be more out there but I think most are trying to standardise to the above setup.. so you shouldn´t have too much trouble finding a headset to work with the X10 (just stay away from Nokia)
(the extra bits next to the mini plug are just for powering the SE portable speakers and other SE crap you will be able to buy.. nothing to do with headsets)
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I'm guessing not, as the X10mini/pro headset has extra connectors on the side (hence the keyhole shaped earphone socket)
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It doesn´t. The original SE headset that came with my X10 mini pro has absolutely normal connector (despite the fact that the socket on the X10 mini pro is keyhole shaped), and no functionality is lost.
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It doesn´t. The original SE headset that came with my X10 mini pro has absolutely normal connector (despite the fact that the socket on the X10 mini pro is keyhole shaped), and no functionality is lost.
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Ahh, ok then. The headset that came with my X10mini (MH810) has the extra connectors, but also has an inline control (play/pause, next, prev, vol +/-), so perhaps the extra connectors drive those
Does anyone know a good headset like the MH810 that has music control and mic but also with removable headphones (normal mini jack)? would be nice to use over ear headphones in winter.. (was thinking of going for the MW600 BT, but would be happy with wired if anyone knows a good one?) needs to be able to change headphones.
I wanted to give these a shot :
http://www.urbanears.com/category/medis
They seem good quality, though a bit expensive, but don't know if they would work with the mini. I sent a mail to them asking if it would but didn't get any answer.
raphaelc said:
I wanted to give these a shot :
http://www.urbanears.com/category/medis
They seem good quality, though a bit expensive, but don't know if they would work with the mini. I sent a mail to them asking if it would but didn't get any answer.
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Looks like they come with a bunch of adaptors (to cater for all devices, even Nokia who went with a weird TRRS setup) so they should work on the mini.
I'm also pretty sure anything that will work for the iphone will work on the mini (same TRRS configuration) .. but I haven't tested this (it would certainly make it easier for us to find headsets) someone must have an iphone headset available to try out? so many sheep out there with those devices... (I'm living on the other side of the world at the moment to all my iphone junky friends so I can't test it myself )
Well, just got a mail from UrbanEars customer service :
Hi,
Thanks foru your mail. I´m sorry to say but Sony Ericsson Xperis X10 Mini is not compatible with Urbanears Medis.
Urbanears Medis is microphone and remote compatible with most devices from Nokia, Blackberry, HTC and iPhones.
So I won't buy them, don't want to take the risk even if there seems to be adapters.
Also, I bought UltimatEars headset with built in microphone (it says on the box it works with iPhone and most phones) and ... tada !! they don't work with the mini :-(
when I hook them up, the sound still just goes out the phone speakers, sound doesn't even come out of the headset.
So folks, I guess we're just stuck buying sony ericsson products when it comes to headsets.
raphaelc said:
Well, just got a mail from UrbanEars customer service :
Hi,
Thanks foru your mail. I´m sorry to say but Sony Ericsson Xperis X10 Mini is not compatible with Urbanears Medis.
Urbanears Medis is microphone and remote compatible with most devices from Nokia, Blackberry, HTC and iPhones.
So I won't buy them, don't want to take the risk even if there seems to be adapters.
Also, I bought UltimatEars headset with built in microphone (it says on the box it works with iPhone and most phones) and ... tada !! they don't work with the mini :-(
when I hook them up, the sound still just goes out the phone speakers, sound doesn't even come out of the headset.
So folks, I guess we're just stuck buying sony ericsson products when it comes to headsets.
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weird.. I was pretty sure the pin outs were the same as iPhone (according to various sites I looked at) shows you can't believe everything you read on the intertubes! bloody sony! I guess the best thing would be to find a SE headset with mic/control and stereo headphone socket.. then you can use any headphones.. the only SE ones I have seen are for the old style (hot port?) plug like the K850/W800 etc.. I haven't seen one with a normal TRRS plug yet I just got a MW600 BT set so I can use some decent headphones over BT but would be nice to find a wired option too.
BTW apart from the song titles and caller id not showing up on the MW600 the sound quality is pretty amazing, and it auto switches from listening to music from the X10mini to Skype calls from the laptop, and visa versa.. and on Ubuntu too! sweeeeeet!
I am thinking of getting one of those, but in reality I hate having to charge the headset. how much autonomy do you get with a full charge ? how long is a complete charge ?
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I am thinking of getting one of those, but in reality I hate having to charge the headset. how much autonomy do you get with a full charge ? how long is a complete charge ?
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SE marketing claims about 10 hours Playtime/talk time and 520hrs standby! ... I only just unboxed mine yesterday so time will tell what the real world figures are.. (I mostly use it for music and not much for calls.. I hate looking like a **** talking to myself in public, but if I am driving, on the bike or skiing then headsets are o.k
I think full charge is a couple of hours.. and it comes with a wall charger (550mA) so thats my new phone charger next to the bed (as the Amperage delivered is better for the phone than the 850mA stock one) and it means the USB cable can stay with the laptop for charging both phone and headset when I'm traveling.
I'm pretty happy with the headset so far.. and if I eventually replace the X10 with something that supports track id and caller id over bluetooth.. then woot!
I have a set of these
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds205?lc=en&cc=au
they are the BOMB on x10mini
I have tried two iphone headsets they DO NOT work with mini. A lot of headsets don't in my experience. I wish the iphone headset worked because I like it more than the headset that came with the mini.
It actually doesnt even recognize them at all when you plug them in it continues to play sounds/music from the speaker.
I got HPM-60/J on ebay and they work(including mic).
Does anyone know earbud style (not noise cancellation) with mic that are Y shaped not around the back style(i dont know what its actually called but Se loves that kind)?
Basically I want iphone headset style that works on the mini.
The problem with iphone headsets in the X10mini is the Ground and Mic wire on the plug is opposite... so there is no ground wire for the headphones or mic, this means no sound can come out.
to make an adapter all you would have to do is chop the end off an old headset (either Sony or Iphone) with a few inches of cable to play with..
work out with a multimeter which pins are which cables T(tip)-R(ring)-R(ring)-S(sleeve) and solder on a TRRS socket (available from most good electronics shops) with the last Ring and the Sleeve reversed. (remember its tricky to solder this type of cable.. you need to scrape off some of the coloured insulation with a sharp knife or razor blade so the solder sticks to the bare copper)
if this is too difficult then buy a TRRS socket and TRRS plug from you electronics store and a piece of 4 core cable and join them (swapping the last Ring and Sleeve around)
I have seen the finished adaptors for sale online for about $15-$20 USD (might be worth the investment if you are not good with a soldering iron)
http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm
I had some hp headphones that used a seperate jack for the mike and they work perfectly with my mini pro as do all of the headphones I've tried it with.
But they might be different as the pro's headset that comes with no media controls except a button that will pause it.
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MH810 From SE are Great full Music control nice sound and CHEAP i love them!! better than the stock one
I plan to buy some cheap iphone mic headphones from ebay and mod it.
does anyone know the pin read outs on the sony plugs?
I just hate uing In-ear headphones for talking on skype. I can hear myself talking all the time.
I'll post pics of the mod here once i'm done.
So, ive got this Headset from the X10 Mini Pro, which worked wonders on that device, right now ive switched from the X10 to the P500 and kept the headset, thinking it would work wonders too, little did i know, it acts quite weirdly...
The audio in them kind of works, but its not 100%, its similar to when you have your headphones not plugged all the way down, weird thing is, when you press the ansewer button, the sound gets 100% clear...
Anyone has any idea why this happens?
this happens to my sony ericsson headset too.. i guess its just how theyre built. im guessing its a mono and stereo compatibility issue. you can read it from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector
I was wondering how standard is "standard" 3.5 jack. Does "standard" means I can use any stereo headphones but still have to find compatible headset (stereo headphones + mic + one button).
From these posts I can assume that LG is not compatible with Sony. What about Nokia or iPhone? How many different implementation are there?
iphone 3G will work, 3Gs will not. there's various adapters that are available, i'v ordered one that's supposed to work for all iphone headsets, and it's got a little plastic android on it, lol! cute, but i'll see how it works. if you want to find one, just google android headset adapter. i just ordered the adapter today, i'll post later and let you know how it works. so as of right now, most headsets with just a mic and answer button should work. skullcandy ink'd is one pair that i recommend. they run about $30 CND, and they have good sound.
SE seems to like those proprietary headphone sockets anyone know of a converter so we can use HTC/iPhone style headphones with mic?
My trusty skullcandy headset lies suddenly idle, and the SE headset is not the best headset i've tried.
the xperia mini have 3.5 audio jack, iPhone headset microphone might not work but you can listen to music on it still.
now the older lower ends se phones have the proprietary that your talking about with 3.5 jack on the other end.
correct me if I'm missing the point
The sk17 will only accept se style mic headsets, normal sound only headsets works fine. There are tons of nice headsets with mic that works in htc, samsung and iphone alike, so it's sad that se once again went with their own connection type
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oooohhh ic i never notice this bc i never use wired ones anymore just the stereo bluetooth ones. the ones that comes with the box never fits in the ear. i can only use the in ear buds.
but if you really appreciate music and sound the blue tooth still isn't better than hardwires no matter how much they cost it's just not possible.
nice heads up
i dont like those earbuds there horrible, i tried my iphone earphones (the ones with the volume keys and answer button) and it cam up with an error, i cant remember exactly what the error was. then the sound only comes out the speaker
hopefully someone might make a mod or hack that lets us use other earphones
luckily in india they bundle SE mini pro with a good inear ear phones .
try other normal 3.5 mm head set it should work fine , because AFAIK its iphone who have special jack , and not sony thats why the iphone one's dont work well.
iPhone has special plug yeah, but HTC and Samsung uses the same plug, so my Skullcandy FMJ's work flawlessly in my Galaxy tab, but not in my Mini pro (which is a lot easier to have in the pocket)
I believe alle we need is a small converter as i read somewhere (engadget i think) that Sony would be coming with a set of headphones for iphone/htc/samsung, that would work with the Xperia line through a converter cable bundled in the package.
So hopefully we'll find these on ebay soon!
Buy Koss and never look back
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Don't think it'll solve the problem of not having a mic on the cable.
Untill something with a mic comes out, i'll just stick with my Sony MDR-NC60.
Try the MW600 - the sounds is very close to wired. Unless I am in a silent room I can't tell the difference between my MW600 on direct wired connection on my U20i.
I saw those a few days ago, and i've been considering them, but i''ll love to avoid another powersucker connected to my phone..
Anyone by any chance have the MH700 lying around and able to test them? They list the Arc and Ray as compatible phones, so should work with the Mini Pro, but would love a confirmation before i spend ~40$ on them.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mh700?cc=gb&lc=en#view=overview
They also list the x10 Mini Pro as compatible... if you still have the headset from your old Mini Pro, see if it will work with the new one. If it does, then the MH700 should work, too. Keep us posted, I'm curious about this as well.
dave
Thats a good idea, i'll see if i can dig em up, but i think my brother has em, and he's not really close by... but i think i got a work mate with the x10 mini aswell. I'll report bag as soon as i've testet.
edit: Just remembered the x10min got a special jack for the remote part, and wont fit in a normal 3.5mm jack
I don't remember what the extra jack on the x10 minipro was for, but the included headset didn't require it.
I can confirm that the headset from my old minipro also works with the new minipro and the remote button is fully functional... so, the MH700 headset *should* work, also.
dave
ak-a said:
Try the MW600 - the sounds is very close to wired. Unless I am in a silent room I can't tell the difference between my MW600 on direct wired connection on my U20i.
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I got a MW600, but I find that it is not fully compatible with my xperia mini pro (SK17), indeed, before I had a c905 and there was information on the MW600 screen (like the hour when no music and the title of the music when playing). On my fast test on my xperia mini pro(SK17) those informations were not onscreen.
I feel your paid, My Apple headphones wouldn't work properly. Hell, SE's stock headset doesn't work with iPod/iPhone either.
A way to use those headsets/headphones is to plug it in incorrectly, like not all the way in, mess with it and you will eventually get clear sound but this is only for output sound, not for mic.
What I have also noticed is that if I press and hold the talk button or the center button, the sound goes through but who the hell wants to hold a button in order to listen to music? No one of course. If you plug it in all the way, chances are you will get a "incompatible assesory" error, either that or you will get really bad, low depth sound without holding the button.
It's basically SE's way of being like Apple, with Apples USB charging cable, etc.
Either way, the SE Xperia Mini Pro SK17a's stock headphones (whatever the model number is, does anyone still have it?) is good enough for me though.
Probably not for anyone else in the world
btw i need a few posts before posting in dev forum,
got a xperia mini pro,
i modded hpm-77 to 3.5 mm jack
not joke
just the wiring needed to be connected, everything works as the stock earphones
in the next post i attach a pic
not the nicest but it works
Nice work!
I recently found out it's the wiring that's just wonky on iphone/ipod, but because they have such a big marketshare almost every major headphone maker, makes their headsets iphone/ipod compatible.
I found this adaptor http://www.amazon.co.uk/FiiO-adapte...MQ1Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322052355&sr=8-1 that should make using iphone/ipod compatible headphones work on the Xperia line (and a couple of others), it has been dispatched from amazon today, so should have it end of this week or early next week. I'll report back about functionality.
Just received the adapter, and it works flawlessly!
My SkullCandy iphone headset now works with my Xperia Mini Pro, and damn what an improvement over the stock headset!
I did a search but to no avail... please don't blame me if the topic already exists
I bought a Urbanears headphone which had a headset device (mic and button) included but Neo would not support the 3-channel 3.5 plug ('Accessory not support' message jumps out) and I had to plug a stereo adapter (2-channel 3.5 plug) to make the headphone work, but only for music.
I am wondering if the 'not support' issue is a hardware problem or a software problem? I thought it was unlikely for the former because the 3.5mm format should be just the same for all headset (Urbanears claims it is compatible with most device except those with restrictions, say, SE ), so I guess it was SE putting some software restriction on headsets other than its own brand. So if this assumption is true is there a way for a rooted device to overcome this restriction and use the mic and control on the headset (headphone) ?
Thanks a lot
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
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Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
I just got Klipsch Image S4A headphones for Android
They do not work with SonyEricsson Xperia Neo.
I get "Accessory not supported" message.
K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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Its not always so simple to change to wire.
There is resistors and etc stuff that's sayng to phone some information...
Adapter is not best solution.
Sent via my FXP046 MT15i®
Thanks K4L very much, I know where to get an adapter but I just hope there would be an easier way around:/ now I have to get an ugly adapter though I love my Urbanrars so much thank you again for the detailed explanation
K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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it is possible to use any headphone, because at the board there is what they called switching transistor, but for more functionality use active headphones...
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Ardbeq said:
I just got Klipsch Image S4A headphones for Android
They do not work with SonyEricsson Xperia Neo.
I get "Accessory not supported" message.
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i will try it if there is a possible i will explain it how it will works....
So, the iBeats from Beats by dre will work, as i understood.. It has Audio Left / Right only, no mic, no controls!..??
wska said:
So, the iBeats from Beats by dre will work, as i understood.. It has Audio Left / Right only, no mic, no controls!..??
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Well... if they don't have a mic or controls, it should work perfectly yes. ANY 3.5mm earphones/headphones without a mic or controls will work.
Howeveeeeeeer... if they're called "iBeats" it sounds like it's a headset for iPhones. Make sure you buy the Beats without mic/controls.
skullcandy ink'd mic'd doesn't work
How I wish I had come across this thread before buying the skullcandy Mic'd headset. It is not working on my neo and I get accessory not supported message. I have been looking all night and was not able to find a suitable adapter. Can anyone here provide a link or suggest where I can get one? so that I don't end up buying the wrong one
K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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Thanks man that is such a useful info provided by you...
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K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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Sony changed from Sony Ericsson to just Sony (they also changed the headset to work just like htc and galaxy s line)
So urbeats , htc beats solo and sony smart headset should work on the 3 brands
Hello all,
Thought i will just add on to this post. My friend has a SE Neo V on android 2.3.4 stock and had this same issue with a 3rd party earphones (believe it was Creative and TDK).
We tried downloading this app/widget toggleheadset2 from google play and it helped with playback of sound to the 3rd party earphones. Sound quality is acceptable.
However for the FM radio it is a bit harder as it needs to detect earphones plugged in before starting but not impossible to get working
1. Make sure toggleheadset2 widget is on
2. in the home screen , plug in your headset and immediately press and hold on the volume up/down button. the accessory not supported button will pop up on screen. click ok and then let go of the volume button.
3. FM Radio apps should work then, if it fails you will need to repeat the process again.
Well this is what we found out and got our neo v to work with a 3rd party headset. Hopefully this will help someone else.
I tried urbeats ( not ibeats which is iPhone version )
On htc phones
Samsung galaxy tab and s 2
Nokia lumia
All three buttons work on them
Htc Nokia lumia samsung galaxy
And Sony headset (not Sony Ericsson) all have same type of 3.5 jack
A lot of manufacturers seem to have move to one standard 3.5 jack
I've got a Tiger with mic earphones and it works with toggleheadset2 but the sound is no good until I press the mic button. Afaik, it's an opensource app.
Is there any way to set the app properly in order to get the earphones work correctly?
I have the same problem with a set of Dr Dre Beats Solo HD's. I installed the toggleheadset2 app/widget and when the mic button is pressed (and kept pressed) the sound is perfect but you have to keep the button physically pressed down in order to have decent sound quality and that's not viable.
Any chance of a link to an appropriate adapter??
Cheers,
Ben
BenEadir said:
I have the same problem with a set of Dr Dre Beats Solo HD's. I installed the toggleheadset2 app/widget and when the mic button is pressed (and kept pressed) the sound is perfect but you have to keep the button physically pressed down in order to have decent sound quality and that's not viable.
Any chance of a link to an appropriate adapter??
Cheers,
Ben
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While searching i also found this on ebay, but it's larger and more expensive: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-TRRS-...499?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6f3e9ddb
I've been waiting a couple of days for a reply from these guys(lunashops) to a question i asked them. Until they actually get back to me i thought it best to move the link further down. I'm about to order this one myself http://www.lunashops.co.uk/goods-1073.html . Got that link from a post on Headfi by ClieOS
taaviu said:
Its not always so simple to change to wire.
There is resistors and etc stuff that's sayng to phone some information...
Adapter is not best solution.
Sent via my FXP046 MT15i®
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desire sv's headphone works great with xperia p.
Hi, guys!
I'm new in the Mini section. I've been using X10 Mini for almost an year, but now I'm with a Xperia Mini 2011.
In the past I was using MH810 handsfree and it was having a pretty nice sound, sound remote control on the wire, but it is incompatible with the Mini.
So which handsfree with sound remote control is compatible with the Mini? Only SE Live Sound or there are others?
Thanks in advance for the info!
The 2011 xperia line uses a diferent type of protocol for the 3,5mm connector that's why other headsets are incompatible. I think that your only choices are the models released by Sony Ericsson i.e. Livesound.
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I currently have Sony MW600, Hi-Fi Wireless Headset, works via Bluetooth, quality is good enough, costs also less than LiveSound, also has remote control buttons Play/Pause, Next/Previous and volume.
But what you mean, that is incompatible with Mini? Just give it a try, according to me, you have nothing to lose...
The 3.5 mm jacks of the X10 Mini and the Xperia Mini are different - that's why they're incompatible and the wonderful MH810 handsfree cannot work on the Xperia Mini.
What about putting a 3.5 mm jack on to a HPM 82 handsfree instead of the fast-connector - will it work?
I'm asking because MH1 Livesound is not being sold in Bulgaria, so I should order it from amazon.uk maybe.
What do you mean, that does not work? No sound or controls don't work or what?
Take a look in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1229622
summary: buy the gadget linked there and get any iphone compatible headset you want.
Someguyfromhell, I mean the jacks are DIFFERENT!!! Why don't you look at them in Google? Why should you ask that questions, as I have already explained that twice?!
novicebg said:
The 3.5 mm jacks of the X10 Mini and the Xperia Mini are different
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It's not directly the phone, that has different jack. Both have 3.5mm jacks, it doesn't make any difference at all.
The headset has additional part, which is...I have no idea, what for. Probably additional functions from the remote control.
One way would be to try getting rid of this additional chip thing, if you are willing to take that risk.
Someguyfromhell said:
It's not directly the phone, that has different jack. Both have 3.5mm jacks, it doesn't make any difference at all.
The headset has additional part, which is...I have no idea, what for. Probably additional functions from the remote control.
One way would be to try getting rid of this additional chip thing, if you are willing to take that risk.
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Why do u continue with that stupid... suggestions?! Getting rid of the additional contact-strips will make the remote control of the handsfree completely useless and I will not be able to recieve calls, or sell the handsfree to some X10 Mini owner.
Even Nokia headsets work with Xperia mini, i was shocked to see old nokia headset to be working with my st15i, button, microphone, everything.
If you want really good sound - buy big , normal headphones.
gqcJYb3UN8xSIWNUy2xX said:
Even Nokia headsets work with Xperia mini, i was shocked to see old nokia headset to be working with my st15i, button, microphone, everything.
If you want really good sound - buy big , normal headphones.
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I've tried Nokia headphones a few days ago, they did have remote control for the music player on the wire, but... they didn't worked with the mini. Or at least the remote control didn't. There was sound, but no control over it. Maybe because they were a cheap Chinese copy.
I found my old X1 lead, it has a socket on the mic for use with any headphones
Also old SE HPM-80 in ear headphones are good
Sent from my Xperia Mini using Tapatalk
Yep, they're like HPM 82 with display on the remote control, but with a fastport again. I'll try to solder a 3.5mm jack to a HPM 82 handsfree (to replace the fastport), but I may not succeed because there are 8 or 9 cables out of the wire and only 4 holes to solder them on the 3.5mm jack...
using easy sennheiser headphones, awesome for less money
I've got second hand Sony Ericsson MH1 for half price. Not so special, good sound, not better than the old HPM-82 or MH810 for example. And the lack of a clip for hanging on the neck piece is obviously a disadvantage! The free is constantly slipping down and pulling the ears - very annoying!
The lack of separate buttons for changing the music tracks is also a disadvantage - music tracks are changed with continuous pressing the volume buttons of the handsfree's remote control, not with separate buttons like on the HPM-82 or MH810. But it seems that this is due to the 3.5mm jack cable-number connectivity limitation. The MH810 has some additional ports on the side of the 3.5mm jack, which allow it to have more buttons on the remote control, while MH1 doesn't have them on the jack.
guys i've been looking for budget headphones that would fit in xperia mini's jack
i don't know if it would help but i tried couple of nokia headphones that worked with the device along with the samsung corby pro's stock stock headphones and they all worked currently im considering buying
MEElectronics M9-SL
or the
iLuv iEP322BLK citylights
but i don't know if any of those is compatible with the xperia mini anyway so advice would be appreciated
Note:I just want music to my ears
Xperia Mini has regular 3.5 mm jack, so you can use any headphones(with 3.5mm jack) with the phone.
Mike201 said:
guys i've been looking for budget headphones that would fit in xperia mini's jack
i don't know if it would help but i tried couple of nokia headphones that worked with the device along with the samsung corby pro's stock stock headphones and they all worked currently im considering buying
MEElectronics M9-SL
or the
iLuv iEP322BLK citylights
but i don't know if any of those is compatible with the xperia mini anyway so advice would be appreciated
Note:I just want music to my ears
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Nokia's garbages work on SE Xperias, play sound, but only that - their music control buttons doesn't.
novicebg said:
Nokia's garbages work on SE Xperias, play sound, but only that - their music control buttons doesn't.
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I wont buy any sony's earphones or use the ones that came with the device cos those are just crap
actually i'm now considering one of the following but don't know if they would work or not
1-MEElectronics M9
2-JVC Xtreme Xplosives FX1X
3-Koss KSC 75
4-SkullCandy Titan
5-iLuv iep322
i only found the iep322 and the titan in local stores however the titan is a bit expensive would be my last choice just before the iep322