Hi All,
I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. Let me elaborate:
[Background]
Currently on my first android phone, the LG Optimus One and considering it's almost a legacy phone, it has an active dev support and even JB Roms were made for this device. However, i'm currently using the MIUI ROM nd really loving it's interface.
[Current Scenario]
A friend of mine will be coming down from USA, and asked me if i wanted anything, So i thought it will be a good time to upgrade my phone, as i am really tired of installing a custom rom almost every other week, also tired of the legacy ARMv6 phone,
So i searched in newegg, amazon for a phone under 350 USD, and narrowed down to Xperia P and Galaxy Nexus.
Now, I know that if i get a Galaxy nexus, I'm sure i wouldn't have to worry about updates and the really strong dev support, but on the other hand I really love the looks of Xperia P. Also i feel a 4 inch screen is perfect and it has a better camera too.
Now I'm really not into gaming on the phone, and would like to use the "phone as a phone" mainly, with internet browsing, music, HD videos and photography as the other uses.
I also feel that a 4.65 screen is way too big to fit in my pocket.
I have a few questions regarding the Xperia P:
So i'd like to know how the build quality of the Xperia P is?
Is having a non-removable battery a major CON?
Is the Sony 'modded' version of android good enough to not use the custom roms?
Will there be a dev support for Xperia P in terms of custom roms and kernels in the near future?
All in all, which phone do i finally choose in that budget range?
Regards,
CD
CosmicDance said:
Hi All,
I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. Let me elaborate:
[Background]
Currently on my first android phone, the LG Optimus One and considering it's almost a legacy phone, it has an active dev support and even JB Roms were made for this device. However, i'm currently using the MIUI ROM nd really loving it's interface.
[Current Scenario]
A friend of mine will be coming down from USA, and asked me if i wanted anything, So i thought it will be a good time to upgrade my phone, as i am really tired of installing a custom rom almost every other week, also tired of the legacy ARMv6 phone,
So i searched in newegg, amazon for a phone under 350 USD, and narrowed down to Xperia P and Galaxy Nexus.
Now, I know that if i get a Galaxy nexus, I'm sure i wouldn't have to worry about updates and the really strong dev support, but on the other hand I really love the looks of Xperia P. Also i feel a 4 inch screen is perfect and it has a better camera too.
Now I'm really not into gaming on the phone, and would like to use the "phone as a phone" mainly, with internet browsing, music, HD videos and photography as the other uses.
I also feel that a 4.65 screen is way too big to fit in my pocket.
I have a few questions regarding the Xperia P:
So i'd like to know how the build quality of the Xperia P is?
Is having a non-removable battery a major CON?
Is the Sony 'modded' version of android good enough to not use the custom roms?
Will there be a dev support for Xperia P in terms of custom roms and kernels in the near future?
All in all, which phone do i finally choose in that budget range?
Regards,
CD
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Ok, I have XP for couple of weeks. Build quality is excellent (aluminum unibody) and screen is gorgeous (bright and colorful). I think that non removable battery isnt a major CON, but the capacity could be (about a day on single charge). Sony ICS ROM is fast enough and it looks ok. We have allready couple of custom ROMs and Kernels including CM9.1 so I think that future of developing on XP is bright.
Which phone to choose? Hm, I dont know, both are good, its up to u and ur taste.
Edit: XP will get JB in Q1 2013.
P looks more slick and feels solid to the hand than GNex.
But spec-wise and current software(buttery JB), it's GNex advantage over P.
Tapatalked from my Xperia P
So Galaxy Nexus's only advantage is the super fast OS updates?
How does the camera and music compare between them? The screen isn't that important to me, as i feel there will be a negligible difference between them... Please correct me if i'm wrong
CosmicDance said:
Hi All,
I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. Let me elaborate:
[Background]
Currently on my first android phone, the LG Optimus One and considering it's almost a legacy phone, it has an active dev support and even JB Roms were made for this device. However, i'm currently using the MIUI ROM nd really loving it's interface.
[Current Scenario]
A friend of mine will be coming down from USA, and asked me if i wanted anything, So i thought it will be a good time to upgrade my phone, as i am really tired of installing a custom rom almost every other week, also tired of the legacy ARMv6 phone,
So i searched in newegg, amazon for a phone under 350 USD, and narrowed down to Xperia P and Galaxy Nexus.
Now, I know that if i get a Galaxy nexus, I'm sure i wouldn't have to worry about updates and the really strong dev support, but on the other hand I really love the looks of Xperia P. Also i feel a 4 inch screen is perfect and it has a better camera too.
Now I'm really not into gaming on the phone, and would like to use the "phone as a phone" mainly, with internet browsing, music, HD videos and photography as the other uses.
I also feel that a 4.65 screen is way too big to fit in my pocket.
I have a few questions regarding the Xperia P:
So i'd like to know how the build quality of the Xperia P is?
Is having a non-removable battery a major CON?
Is the Sony 'modded' version of android good enough to not use the custom roms?
Will there be a dev support for Xperia P in terms of custom roms and kernels in the near future?
All in all, which phone do i finally choose in that budget range?
Regards,
CD
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Build quality is sexy, recieved a lot of compliments from my friends, really looks and feels like a premium product despite its mid range price. Having a non removable battery is only a con if you're the type to carry around a spare battery (I dont tend to this) for when youre running low, but with quite a small battery this might be a phone that people would have liked to able to remove the battery, but you can still reset the phone without a battery pull. I very much like the experience of Sony's android, looks nice and is quite smooth in my experience, but up against JB on the nexus not so great i guess. Im hopeful for some dev support in the future, because Sony arent the best when it comes to updates right now we're close to getting cm9.1 i think, i cant really say much on what the future of this phones development holds i dont know much about development... But if you're picking between the Xperia P and Nexus, the nexus has more future support and a better screen and better chipset. Dunno about the nexus camera but ive found pictures and videos taken on my P a bit grainy, and shots taken with auto settings arent always great.. I'd still go with the P because i like the look of it, that was a big thing for me, how the phone looks.
CosmicDance said:
So Galaxy Nexus's only advantage is the super fast OS updates?
How does the camera and music compare between them? The screen isn't that important to me, as i feel there will be a negligible difference between them... Please correct me if i'm wrong
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Camera is better on Xperia P, much better. Music player, Walkman vs. stock android, what do u think?
MadManMark said:
Build quality is sexy, recieved a lot of compliments from my friends, really looks and feels like a premium product despite its mid range price. Having a non removable battery is only a con if you're the type to carry around a spare battery (I dont tend to this) for when youre running low, but with quite a small battery this might be a phone that people would have liked to able to remove the battery, but you can still reset the phone without a battery pull. I very much like the experience of Sony's android, looks nice and is quite smooth in my experience, but up against JB on the nexus not so great i guess. Im hopeful for some dev support in the future, because Sony arent the best when it comes to updates right now we're close to getting cm9.1 i think, i cant really say much on what the future of this phones development holds i dont know much about development... But if you're picking between the Xperia P and Nexus, the nexus has more future support and a better screen and better chipset. Dunno about the nexus camera but ive found pictures and videos taken on my P a bit grainy, and shots taken with auto settings arent always great.. I'd still go with the P because i like the look of it, that was a big thing for me, how the phone looks.
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It's kinda sad that Sony ditches it's products even before a year is completed for the phone, for example the 2011 models aren't getting any updates and i'm sure the same fate awaits the current series of Xperias.
To be honest, I'm really tired of installing custom ROMS frequently, but then i have to depend on them as my current phone(LG Optimus One) has a pathetic stock rom. But Hats off to the devs at the optimus one thread, they even managed JB(CM10) on that phone.
As long as the stock rom is decent enough, i don't mind using an 'older' version of android. Therefore the advantage of frequent updates that the galaxy nexus enjoys doesn't apply to me. i just want a stable phone.
Even the bigger screen of Nexus One is a deterrent for me. Atleast thats how i personally feel.
I'd like to know how the battery life of the Xperia P is, as i'm reading a lot of conflicting reviews regarding this part.
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Camera is better on Xperia P, much better. Music player, Walkman vs. stock android, what do u think?
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Well yeah! It's a walkman
Don't think just go for nexus.
Every thing is better not better perfect
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CosmicDance said:
It's kinda sad that Sony ditches it's products even before a year is completed for the phone, for example the 2011 models aren't getting any updates and i'm sure the same fate awaits the current series of Xperias.
I'd like to know how the battery life of the Xperia P is, as i'm reading a lot of conflicting reviews regarding this part.
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Battery life is decent, about one day on moderate use (1 hour of talk time, 2-3 hours on wlan, couple of sms, couple of camera shots). And about updates, I got ICS update, and one small update after that (bug fixes). XP will get JB in Q1 2013 (new rumor say in early December 2012). Three updates in less than a year, enough for u?
CosmicDance said:
It's kinda sad that Sony ditches it's products even before a year is completed for the phone, for example the 2011 models aren't getting any updates and i'm sure the same fate awaits the current series of Xperias.
To be honest, I'm really tired of installing custom ROMS frequently, but then i have to depend on them as my current phone(LG Optimus One) has a pathetic stock rom. But Hats off to the devs at the optimus one thread, they even managed JB(CM10) on that phone.
As long as the stock rom is decent enough, i don't mind using an 'older' version of android. Therefore the advantage of frequent updates that the galaxy nexus enjoys doesn't apply to me. i just want a stable phone.
Even the bigger screen of Nexus One is a deterrent for me. Atleast thats how i personally feel.
I'd like to know how the battery life of the Xperia P is, as i'm reading a lot of conflicting reviews regarding this part.
Well yeah! It's a walkman
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If you just want to use your phone as a phone without gaming or watching videos the battery should be good enough in the p.
The stock roms are great and look amazing, I prefer them to vanilla android.
The update policy of Sony is okay, even if the 2011 only 'got' ics. I mean, not many other companies update their low end / not flagship phones. Many people I know didn't even update their 2011 Xperias to ics because they don't like it (or don't care). For anyone who depends on the newest firmware there are custom roms.
I'd get a p because of the look and the camera. You can update the p to a newer firmware with custom Roms but there is no way you'll ever get a better camera etc. for the nexus.
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CosmicDance said:
So Galaxy Nexus's only advantage is the super fast OS updates?
How does the camera and music compare between them? The screen isn't that important to me, as i feel there will be a negligible difference between them... Please correct me if i'm wrong
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I feel the screen legibility outdoors is unbeatable in the case of the XP (maybe due to the extra white pixel) , though I have only compared it to the nexus s and HTC legend...
I like the feel and class of aluminium finish (HTC and Sony) more than the plastic feel of Samsung...
Outdoor shots using the stock Sony camera are truly brilliant in detail, but I wish I could say the same with indoor photos and low light photos -both are afflicted by a great amount of noise...
For music, as mentioned earlier, you get the Walkman app, nuff said
I get a day's worth of battery life with moderate 3g/WiFi usage and 1hour of calls, but I carry around my charger just in case and I have a car charger for busier days... Sony's implementation of fast charging is also good, the battery reaches 90% within an hour...
The software updates for Galaxy Nexus will definitely extend beyond JB, but the same cannot be said about Sony...
I ordered the Xperia P guys
Thanks to everyone for helping me making the decision
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Hi everyone! I will be buying a new phone in a couple of days and was considering the Xperia S as an option. I've been reading this forum as well as some reviews and comments in other forums and blogs, and I've come across very conflicting opinions, so I would like to know if you, as owners, would recommend it.
Before you ask, this is the only Xperia phone available in my country right now, and the other two options I'm considering are the Galaxy Nexus and the S2. As you can see, I'm not looking for the latest most powerfull smartphone but rather a reliable device with a healthy development community (also, there aren't many other powerful smartphones available here but that's a whole different issue).
I currently own a Motorola Defy, which is a very reliable phone, and has a great development community (everything working in CM10!). This has been particularly important for me as the people that own the Defy are very enthusiastic about it, and there's a still a lot going on even almost two years after it's release. I think the Xperia S might be a great choice because of the decent hardware hardware, form and size (galaxy S3 feels too big in my hand), but specially because of its unlockable bootloader and the possibilities that it represents (I'm not really expecting to keep the stock firmware for long).
So, do you think the Xperia S might be a good choice, or would you say I should look into my other options?
Simple lags, not very smooth ui is only problem. Also google is now testing aosp support for xperia s so it could have a very good future. If VERY good hardware is not your choice, then you won't regret buying xps. Although it does simple daily usage very good and you may not notice lags until you are expecting a perfect mobile.
dm_alka said:
Hi everyone! I will be buying a new phone in a couple of days and was considering the Xperia S as an option. I've been reading this forum as well as some reviews and comments in other forums and blogs, and I've come across very conflicting opinions, so I would like to know if you, as owners, would recommend it.
Before you ask, this is the only Xperia phone available in my country right now, and the other two options I'm considering are the Galaxy Nexus and the S2. As you can see, I'm not looking for the latest most powerfull smartphone but rather a reliable device with a healthy development community (also, there aren't many other powerful smartphones available here but that's a whole different issue).
I currently own a Motorola Defy, which is a very reliable phone, and has a great development community (everything working in CM10!). This has been particularly important for me as the people that own the Defy are very enthusiastic about it, and there's a still a lot going on even almost two years after it's release. I think the Xperia S might be a great choice because of the decent hardware hardware, form and size (galaxy S3 feels too big in my hand), but specially because of its unlockable bootloader and the possibilities that it represents (I'm not really expecting to keep the stock firmware for long).
So, do you think the Xperia S might be a good choice, or would you say I should look into my other options?
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Yes I recommend it! I have an Xperia S and a Galaxy S3 but Xperia S is better.
dm_alka said:
Hi everyone! I will be buying a new phone in a couple of days and was considering the Xperia S as an option. I've been reading this forum as well as some reviews and comments in other forums and blogs, and I've come across very conflicting opinions, so I would like to know if you, as owners, would recommend it.
Before you ask, this is the only Xperia phone available in my country right now, and the other two options I'm considering are the Galaxy Nexus and the S2. As you can see, I'm not looking for the latest most powerfull smartphone but rather a reliable device with a healthy development community (also, there aren't many other powerful smartphones available here but that's a whole different issue).
I currently own a Motorola Defy, which is a very reliable phone, and has a great development community (everything working in CM10!). This has been particularly important for me as the people that own the Defy are very enthusiastic about it, and there's a still a lot going on even almost two years after it's release. I think the Xperia S might be a great choice because of the decent hardware hardware, form and size (galaxy S3 feels too big in my hand), but specially because of its unlockable bootloader and the possibilities that it represents (I'm not really expecting to keep the stock firmware for long).
So, do you think the Xperia S might be a good choice, or would you say I should look into my other options?
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Simple, if you don't care about internal memory and want the latest android OS faster and can't wait for it, go for nexus series.
If you want a whooping display and a good camera with good looks, go for XPS.. XPS is relatively new so not a very broad support but its more than enough has a good android future. You won't regret buying any of these..:good:
As far as the lag is concerned, its not there in my device, few users complain about it but i never experienced it, except for the stock contact app, which i don't use
if u considering between nexus and s2, just pick xperia S. nth will go wrong, except for yellow tinted screen.
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if u considering between nexus and s2, just pick xperia S. nth will go wrong, except for yellow tinted screen.
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No yellow tint issue on new batch
Toss a coin , and leave s2 out of it , xperia S has 720p res on its 4.3 , s2 has 800x460 , the xperia S's screen is way way more detailed , and 720p displays are whats new these days :good:
I have an xperia S and it hasnt disapointed me yet
My brothers have the Samsung S2, and I can tell you that the Xperia S is MUCH better!
The Xperia S is an EXCELLENT phone, the only con is that I'm just disappointed with it's camera. I came from a Galaxy Note.
Hello people, I'm a Motorola Defy user & thinking to upgrade my phone to a pretty decent one. People who own or have used the Xperia Acro S, can you please tell me hows the day to day performance? Like normal performance & whether Mid end/ High end games will run on this phone? How is the battery life of this phone? How about the camera? Or any other issues?Because I'm really interested in getting this phone ASAP. I'll be glad and thankful to you people if I get my queries answered! Thank you!
P.S Sorry for my bad english. it is not my native language
evolution1g said:
Hello people, I'm a Motorola Defy user & thinking to upgrade my phone to a pretty decent one. People who own or have used the Xperia Acro S, can you please tell me hows the day to day performance? Like normal performance & whether Mid end/ High end games will run on this phone? How is the battery life of this phone? How about the camera? Or any other issues?Because I'm really interested in getting this phone ASAP. I'll be glad and thankful to you people if I get my queries answered! Thank you!
P.S Sorry for my bad english. it is not my native language
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Hey,
I've been using my Xperia Acro S for about 10 days now, i've used the Galaxy S 3, S2, HTC One X and Defy before this.
The first thing i did when i got the Xperia Acro S was put it in a tub filled with about 50CM of water, left it there for about a minute, when i took it out everything worked fine, just be sure to close all the connection ports before you try this.
The phone's performance is pretty much on par with the Galaxy S 2, i haven't noticed any lag in using the device, sometimes it becomes laggy but that's because i have many apps open in the background so i assume that's normal.
I've played The Dark Knight Rises and it was completely lag free, the graphics were great.
I've also played Dead Trigger without any issues, great graphics as well.
When i compare it directly with the Motorola Defy it's quite a big step up,
The performance improvement is noticable.
Another useful feature is wet-finger tracking which allows you to use the screen with wet fingers, i remember this being a problem with my Defy.
The battery life for me is ok. I usually manage to get about 3 hours screen on time, this is with 5 active e-mails push syncing, using 3-4 apps like WhatsApp, Bluetooth on all day (connected for half the day). Wi-Fi on all the time, brightness set to max.
The camera is very satisfactory for me, it has nice features like panorama, smile detection etc and the quality is better than the 8MP camera's from the other high-end phones.
The only thing that slightly bothered me was that the phone's NFC doesn't seem to be on par with other higher end devices,
Basically i have to press the NFC card on the back of the phone and sometimes it doesn't even recognize it.
Whereas on the HTC One X and Galaxy S 3 it's sufficient to just put the NFC card a couple of CM's away from the phone and it recognizes always.
As i said, not a big problem, just saying.
All in all, i am very satisfied.
Hope this helped.
Does it feels fat? It looks fat but I want to know this from someone who has it
SGS2
I had a Galaxy S3 GT I9300, but from a week back I'm currently having a Sony Xperia Ion. Tbh, I loved Sony's UI much better and some backup & restore unbuilt facilities better than of Samsung. So yeah, being the holder of S3. I will sitll recommend you Acro S.
godzdpk said:
I had a Galaxy S3 GT I9300, but from a week back I'm currently having a Sony Xperia Ion. Tbh, I loved Sony's UI much better and some backup & restore unbuilt facilities better than of Samsung. So yeah, being the holder of S3. I will sitll recommend you Acro S.
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dusanzk said:
Hey,
I've been using my Xperia Acro S for about 10 days now, i've used the Galaxy S 3, S2, HTC One X and Defy before this.
The first thing i did when i got the Xperia Acro S was put it in a tub filled with about 50CM of water, left it there for about a minute, when i took it out everything worked fine, just be sure to close all the connection ports before you try this.
The phone's performance is pretty much on par with the Galaxy S 2, i haven't noticed any lag in using the device, sometimes it becomes laggy but that's because i have many apps open in the background so i assume that's normal.
I've played The Dark Knight Rises and it was completely lag free, the graphics were great.
I've also played Dead Trigger without any issues, great graphics as well.
When i compare it directly with the Motorola Defy it's quite a big step up,
The performance improvement is noticable.
Another useful feature is wet-finger tracking which allows you to use the screen with wet fingers, i remember this being a problem with my Defy.
The battery life for me is ok. I usually manage to get about 3 hours screen on time, this is with 5 active e-mails push syncing, using 3-4 apps like WhatsApp, Bluetooth on all day (connected for half the day). Wi-Fi on all the time, brightness set to max.
The camera is very satisfactory for me, it has nice features like panorama, smile detection etc and the quality is better than the 8MP camera's from the other high-end phones.
The only thing that slightly bothered me was that the phone's NFC doesn't seem to be on par with other higher end devices,
Basically i have to press the NFC card on the back of the phone and sometimes it doesn't even recognize it.
Whereas on the HTC One X and Galaxy S 3 it's sufficient to just put the NFC card a couple of CM's away from the phone and it recognizes always.
As i said, not a big problem, just saying.
All in all, i am very satisfied.
Hope this helped.
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Thank you both of you... Guess I've made my choice Just waiting for Sony to launch this baby in India!
The back of the phone heats up very fast.
And battery not that satisfied, 1.5GHz is too much for the phone.
I underclocked to 1GHz and games still run lag-free, (riptide 3D,Cordy,Cordy sky)
And when your screen is awake, and u pour water on it, the phone interface will messed up. (Water somehow acts as fingers and some dragging and long press occurs)
And u can't really dip the phone into water with screen awake, like above the screen will go crazy and no response at all.
If u awake the phone in water, u can't touch anything, but if u can turn on the camera, u can use the shutter button to take pictures. (provided ur screen doesn't messed up)
So its water resistant doesnt mean u can use ur phone underwater
evolution1g said:
Hello people, I'm a Motorola Defy user & thinking to upgrade my phone to a pretty decent one. People who own or have used the Xperia Acro S, can you please tell me hows the day to day performance? Like normal performance & whether Mid end/ High end games will run on this phone? How is the battery life of this phone? How about the camera? Or any other issues?Because I'm really interested in getting this phone ASAP. I'll be glad and thankful to you people if I get my queries answered! Thank you!
P.S Sorry for my bad english. it is not my native language
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Comparing to the Defy, it's obviously a worthy upgrade. In term of battery life, it's okayish for a dual core phone. I have been playing 3D game like dead trigger with zero lag problem so I will vouch for that. Camera is superb if you know how to use it right. Sony camera is a bit different, the auto focus was kinda clumsy and you have to do it manually to get the best quality. Water proof is definely a plus. This phone can last for years before your next upgrade.
hi all,
need to ask if anyone knows how to use Wi-Fi direct?
asking on behalf of a friend using acro s
thx
micmaccc said:
hi all,
need to ask if anyone knows how to use Wi-Fi direct?
asking on behalf of a friend using acro s
thx
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What do you mean by "use wifi direct"?
micmaccc said:
hi all,
need to ask if anyone knows how to use Wi-Fi direct?
asking on behalf of a friend using acro s
thx
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I don't think wifi-direct is supported on acro s ics version yet, at least I cannot find the options as shown on the other xperias which do support it. DLNA support only so far...
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I guess there's no WiFi direct as snapdragon S3 doesn't support it..
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I think it dose..
Check out here http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_acro_s-4781.php
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Yes, that specs on GsmArena brought my hopes up, but now I am more inclined to think specs listed it as an error. The specs listed inside the GsmArena review page1 do not say wifi-direct.
Xperia P has wifi-direct but is not snapdragon S3. I wonder if any S3 based phone currently has wifi-direct?
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I guess we have to ask HTC folks for that.
But i had google it. And the page i landed too. Stated it would not.
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My HTC Sensation has the same CPU as ACRO S and HTC support Wi-Fi Direct
Seems like wifi-direct support depends on the wireless communication chipset used, might have nothing to do with S3 or not. Could not find any high res photos or mention what chip is in 2012 xperias though...
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i too currently own a motorola defy as the op, and i plan to upgrade in 1-2 months, and my definite win was acro s - until now.
im not the type to stick to stock roms, im a dedicated cyanogenmod user, and i really want a phone which runs cm10 without problem, but now i read that until sony releases a jb upgrade for the acro s, cm10 wont have camera and the battery drains a lot. although from what i understand cm9 is running quite decently, so i think i can stick with that. but will this always be like this, that the acro s wont be upgradeable until sony released an official build?
and i have another question:
the xperia s and xperia acro s have almost identical hardware, except the battery and the microsd extension.
and the xperia s has aosp support, and sony already released its binaries. why cant we use its binaries to fix the camera and the battery drain? or am i seriously missing something here? what are the differences between the two devices software-wise?
and i also read that cm10 is not really ready for daily use yet. is that because the high battery consumption and lack of camera, or are there other bugs?
sorry for asking this many questions, but i couldnt find any answers to this anywhere, even though i did search them first.
Quarx is missing
I might consider Xperia V
I can say that Acro S with the stock rom with all the bloatware removed is a decent device, very stable .
I personally have no issues with it. I tried all the other "stable" roms out there (MIUI and CM9.1) and I always came back to stock .
Xperia T has MHL (HDMI) and Camera working as of FXP 142 when it's released
Unreal fast phone
Go Sony, you won't regret it!
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I would like to buy an Xperia S, but before that, I have some few questions.
1. Sony launched many smartphones this year with relatively the same concept and specifications. Xperia acro S, acro HD, ion, GX, NX, T, V - what's really the difference? Are these devices better than Xperia S?
2. Is the camera good or not as good as you expected?
3. The battery life. Is it really that bad?
4. The weight and size. Does it feel good in your hand or while speaking? Or is it very uncomfortable?
5. How is it after a few months of ownership? Are you satisfied? Do you want to sell it and buy a HTC/Samung device instead?
6. Choosing Xperia S for the nexus-like updates in the future is the right decission?
Please leave some fair replies. Thanks!
Geeve said:
I would like to buy an Xperia S, but before that, I have some few questions.
1. Sony launched many smartphones this year with realively the same concept and specifications. Xperia acro S, acro HD, ion, GX, NX, T, V - what's really the difference? Are these devices better than Xperia S?
2. Is the camera good or not as good as you expected?
3. The battery life. Is it really that bad?
4. The weight and size. Does it feel good in your hand or while speaking? Or is it very uncomfortable?
5. How is it after a few months of ownership? Are you satisfied? Do you want to sell it and buy a HTC/Samung device instead?
6. Choosing Xperia S for the nexus-like updates in the future is the right decission?
Please leave some fair replies. Thanks!
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1. The T/TX/V are the new series, those have MSM8960 and stuff, so it should be faster. acro S, acro HD, Ion are all based on the same board as the XPS, it's the specific features and/or regions (Japan) that differ.
2. Better than most of the competition, still not as good in low light.
3. Absolutely not. A day of battery life is normal.
4. I like it. But I also hate anything that's above 4.3" hardware keys and above 4.8" navbar.
5. I can't say I'm absolutely satisfied, but I like it.
6. Nexus-like updates (directly from Google) will never happen. However, Sony is involved in AOSP closer than most other vendors, and that might lead to speedier updates in the future. For now they still fail to deliver timely updates as they have a ****ton of devices.
I say you should wait for the next Nexus. If the rumor is true, and there are multiple Nexii this year, one of them is very likely to be produced by Sony (and most likely based on the same 'blue' board as the T/TX/V series). Then you'll see the price and decide. The S is a nice smartphone in its own right, but a Sony MSM8960 based Nexus is a whole different story.
I love my S but there are a few things that aint so great such as the home, back and menu buttons that aren't really buttons, the fact that sony will take forever to roll out a 4.1 update and that the camera doesn't take 12mp photos in fullscreen (only 4:3 mode) also theres no expansion slots for a micro sd card.
But other than that i think the phone is amazing, the size isn't really an issue for me as Ive got big hands and anyway you need it to be pretty big for that lovely 720p screen.
what convinced me to get one was the great UI that sony always do a good job of and 'Playstation Certified' but that was a bit of a dissapointment as theres only 14 or so ps1 titles for it atm.
Another bonus is i know someone with a U and i love rubbing it in that my phone is much better :victory:
Overall its miles ahead of the X8 i had previosly and the gaming aspect is nothing other than brilliant if you get one make sure to get titles like Dead Trigger, GTA3, max payne and Shadowgun to name a few
Geeve said:
I would like to buy an Xperia S, but before that, I have some few questions.
1. Sony launched many smartphones this year with relatively the same concept and specifications. Xperia acro S, acro HD, ion, GX, NX, T, V - what's really the difference? Are these devices better than Xperia S?
2. Is the camera good or not as good as you expected?
3. The battery life. Is it really that bad?
4. The weight and size. Does it feel good in your hand or while speaking? Or is it very uncomfortable?
5. How is it after a few months of ownership? Are you satisfied? Do you want to sell it and buy a HTC/Samung device instead?
6. Choosing Xperia S for the nexus-like updates in the future is the right decission?
Please leave some fair replies. Thanks!
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1. The newer GX,T,V and such are better phones but pricier and arguably not as good looking. (The Xperia S is a damn good looking phone.)
2. The camera is better than I expected and if you use a third party app or modded camera apk it will look even better.
3. Battery life is fine, dont listen to whiners. It all depends on rom and kernel but on stock it easily makes it through the day.
4. Its a very comfortable phone to use, though i have mine in a case so I can just throw it on the table and not worry about it.
5. I love my phone and would NEVER trade it for a crummy Samsung. I would consider an HTC because I am originally from the HTC camp, but their latest phones havent had everything I wanted and Sense is a joke compared to Sony android implementation.
6. The only phone that will have Nexus-like updates is a Nexus, though the Xperia S was recently added to AOSP which may or may not increase releases. We have working versions of all the major roms though, CM9/10, AOKP, MIUI, so there is something for everyone. We may not have the quantity of Roms but there are enough good ones to choose from, though I do wish we had more developers. Hopefully it will get better.
If you like the look of it and the price is good wherever you are located, then go for it. You will be happy with it overall. Hell I would sell you mine if I thought there was another phone better than my S that I would like but there isnt. I could go for the T, but it really isnt much better and the design is worse in my eyes. I will see if the next nexus is any good.
Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. The most important thing is that i have to decide till 30.11 because there's an promotion in my shop. Xperia S + Euti with keyboard in one price.
The main question is that i won't make a big mistake, mainly im concerned about Sony's support for Tabs. I'm sure that Samsung won't leave Tab just like that without any updates and most of developers are now working with Galaxy i guess.
SO, do You think that Xperia S will get updates and developers will take care of that model? Because my friend with older one is very disapointed about Sony's updates, etc.
Thx for any answer and sorry if i did topic in wrong section.
The xperia tablet s is no developer darling. Far from it. Sony is extraordinary slow on updates. My local support didn't even know if jelly bean were "in the making" for the xperia. But official, international Sony has confirmed it. But considering devices like the Motorola zoom allready got jelly bean, despite being 2+ years old, Sony is really not a particulaly good OEM, when it comes to updates. About the tablet it self : really bugged. Really bad software, mediocre battery life, and filled to the brim with bloatware. Fortunately, root access has been achieved, so that can be dealt with. Design and feel of the tab is awesome, but software wise, it's close to disaster. Far from finished.. I say, put your money on a nexus 10. Same price, better specs, vanilla Android and better support from google and developers alike. Just my 2 cents.
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Yes I tuner to the Xperia this tablet is not for programmers and adventurous. But the Xperia Tablet is a very very useful device - top is the display and the processing - up to now I just noticed a bug - Standby Wifi Bug ... but otherwise everything works super - I have when buying and I'm also expecting no desire to torment me with Custom Roms have more bugs that have been adapted from programmed Hobbyprogs /. Previously I had an LG V900 and the LG IPAD2 there was only one update us .. but from 3.0 to 3.1 and there was already ICS out then the device is not supported in any further a USB connection without function and not a fix. Samsung is not exactly famous for its updates only when the new series - when the unit is 2 years old it was then with updates ... Also, the Google phones and tablets not convince me ... In the end it's like with all things, there is nix perfect one must always make swab ... I already have the Xperia S phone and am very excited so I decided for the Xperia S Tablet ... and I have not regretted it or not root task of the manufacturer is to close the gaps and has the Sony made you can not even be angry ... and JB is certainly the end of January 2013
Ryumari said:
Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. The most important thing is that i have to decide till 30.11 because there's an promotion in my shop. Xperia S + Euti with keyboard in one price.
The main question is that i won't make a big mistake, mainly im concerned about Sony's support for Tabs. I'm sure that Samsung won't leave Tab just like that without any updates and most of developers are now working with Galaxy i guess.
SO, do You think that Xperia S will get updates and developers will take care of that model? Because my friend with older one is very disapointed about Sony's updates, etc.
Thx for any answer and sorry if i did topic in wrong section.
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I agree with Raedek
Premium feel, awesome design and above average display. It could be a winner if not for the buggy software. I couldn't get past the random shutdowns while watching movies or in sleep mode. I've had a positive experience with the nexus 7 so I tend to agree with the suggestion to go with a Nexus 10. Good luck with your decision
Personally I wouldn't touch the Sony S v2 tablet.
I made the mistake with the first Sony Tablet S when it was heavily discounted only to learn that this tablet has very poor developer support: no ROMs and can't even do a nand backup. Updates are also non-existent.
My Sony S is pretty much junk ATM IMHO.
My advice would be to avoid and go for something that is more widely supported (i.e Xoom or Samsung tablets) by developers.
Good luck.
Ryumari said:
Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. /QUOTE]
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Totally disagree with all the comments here which seem to come from people that owned the previous tablet, but not the S2.
I don't spend my money lightly and after last years model, I wanted to be sure this was the right tabletl before I spent money on another Sony product.It wasn't the wrong choice, the Xperia Tablet S is a fantastic bit of kit, I don't have any bugs with mine (or bugs that affect me) and it wasn't purchased because of the development support.
If you want development, go with the Nexus 10, but if it's not development you want, the Xperia Tab is for you. Have had it since day 1 and love it!!!
The xperia tablet s is no developer darling. Far from it. Sony is extraordinary slow on updates. My local support didn't even know if jelly bean were "in the making" for the xperia. But official, international Sony has confirmed it. But considering devices like the Motorola zoom allready got jelly bean, despite being 2+ years old, Sony is really not a particulaly good OEM, when it comes to updates. About the tablet it self : really bugged. Really bad software, mediocre battery life, and filled to the brim with bloatware. Fortunately, root access has been achieved, so that can be dealt with. Design and feel of the tab is awesome, but software wise, it's close to disaster. Far from finished.. I say, put your money on a nexus 10. Same price, better specs, vanilla Android and better support from google and developers alike. Just my
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Agreed. Battery life excluded. I like the device, I own it, but it can be underwhelming at times. Personally, I don't like the Nexus 10. Feels cheap and the outstanding specs, like screen resolution and contrast seem subpar comparing to the Xperia Tablet S, even though it embodies half the screen resolution. Seems silly, but that is what I see.
The xperia tablet is one of the best currently on the market. The only android tab that could outdo it in my mind right now is the nexus 10 because of the awesome display and ram...but no sd card slot so if you want lots of storage you have to pay 500.
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If you answered "yes", then which phone do you wish you had bought/waited and bought instead?
Honestly I've never have to mess around/repair a phone so much and still, 4 months after buying, not at all being happy with it. Mostly it's the battery life, but the software support/bugs got me wishing I had bought another phone instead. Maybe an Xperia V w/extended battery or just an HTC.
It's 70% no and 30% yes.
I really dig this design, seriously, it's gorgeous! And the build materials...LOVE IT!
However...the camera isn't as impressive as I was expecting (my Xperia Pro took pretty damn good photos and sometimes, it was even better than my XP), the dual-core processor didn't blew me away and I'm kinda worried that we won't get an update past 4.1 (which kinda sucks, since I bought the phone 3 months ago).
When I bought XP, I was considering LG L9 (which I still kinda want, save for the ugly design of course) or Galaxy Advance (which was uglier and more expensive). If I get the chance I do would trade my XP for an L9.
But still, I love Sony's UI and apps, so I really never get tired of the phone, and the design will never feel old, nor outdated for me. It can be said that I'm quite happy with the phone, but I still would like to try that L9 phone.
Also, I kinda would like to return to a Galaxy Note (1), while the design is kinda bland, I really would like to experience having a big screen with some few tweaks, besides, I can just install Sony's apps on it.
i am using an xperia sola. i dont really bother about the build design and all but having the latest software means the most to me. its not that sola cant run the latest OS but its the bad chipset with virtually no developer support. So yes 80% i regret buying it. Everytime you buy a new gadget you learn something new. So next time i buy a phone ill ensure the chipset is only from qualcomm.
AW: Do you regret buying your Xperia P?
A clear no
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no ! waiting for JB hehe to be honest just dont like the batter 4hours screen on time with wifi,games but not so heavy , overall performance i like the XP but i want to try xperia Z
Absolutly not, it's my first Androdi Phone but when I compare it with my friends phone, I really prefer mine.
Im already satisfied with my device, but im also worried we wont have an update past 4.1,...i guess this will be the last firmware we'll receive.
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Yes and No, its a sweet phone but i'am not happy with the battery life =\ The screen is god but the reception is not as good as on my HTC One V work phone...
I have rooted it to get rid of all the crapy Sony stuff... next time I think I will buy a Nexus device
Wish I had invested Rs. 7,000 more and bought the Galaxy Nexus
XSOLA owner
thunderising said:
Wish I had invested Rs. 7,000 more and bought the Galaxy Nexus
XSOLA owner
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+1. maybe a little more RnD on our part and we should have gone for a snapdragon powered phone.
I just didn't think!! Man I was dumb!
Yes.. Poor front camera, few custom roms (didnt release source code) .. I should get samsung s2..
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No 'cause it's better than my former Atrix, it's more smother, more efficient than Moto and is so well build. Imho i will choose once again P. Of course there are better phones but also more expensive than P.
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I just didn't think!! Man I was dumb!
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I dont know about you, but about the time I bought my Xperia U, there was no dual core CPU in the market for the price of the xperia U. I was told the battery lasted about 10 hours and as of now, I'm not disappointed with that claim. Sure, as of now, you have plenty of alternatives for a dual core with those mediatek ones even pumping out quad-core ones [which aren't as far off in benchmarks than our novathor chips].
And to be honest, the only problem I have is not having jelly bean. Then again, if we're being realistic, unless someone bought this phone purely for development [which in that case would be pretty damn dumb and they should have done more research] the phone doesn't falter back. My U satisfies whatever I throw at it at a day to basis [Regular Browser use, music, radio when on stock rom, calling and normal moderate-graphic-intensive-games] I don't see why anybody is complaining. considering the GUI is vitrtually the same as ICS save for project butter [which if you've seen on the xperia J is absolute rubbish]
Just my 2 cents.
EDIT:- Oh and like people have already said before at the price of an Xperia P you will not find the class of build quality observed on any other non-Sony device.
totally regret my xperia p, i live in Canada so i cant really get much for the device over here, plus battery sucks, and yeah kind of sick of messing with my device just so that it will work..its laggy and i should have waited for xperia z or nexus 4, which im probably gonna go get one or the other anyway....so sick of it lol
I dont regret...
I have Lumia 820 and Xperia P.
I bought the XP for 280 USD which is by far cheaper to another phones with the same specs.
Clearly i dont like the battery or the camera (is fine, not great as L820 but who cares)
+1 to that mate i have absolutely no regrets over this phone
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Could have been better, could have been worse
For almost the same price o could have gotten the S2, so a little regret but not too much... it is a good phone
If nexus 4 was out I would've got that, and if I understood the limitations of Novathor might've looked elsewhere. But this is a decent phone for sure, best mid range imo
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