Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. The most important thing is that i have to decide till 30.11 because there's an promotion in my shop. Xperia S + Euti with keyboard in one price.
The main question is that i won't make a big mistake, mainly im concerned about Sony's support for Tabs. I'm sure that Samsung won't leave Tab just like that without any updates and most of developers are now working with Galaxy i guess.
SO, do You think that Xperia S will get updates and developers will take care of that model? Because my friend with older one is very disapointed about Sony's updates, etc.
Thx for any answer and sorry if i did topic in wrong section.
The xperia tablet s is no developer darling. Far from it. Sony is extraordinary slow on updates. My local support didn't even know if jelly bean were "in the making" for the xperia. But official, international Sony has confirmed it. But considering devices like the Motorola zoom allready got jelly bean, despite being 2+ years old, Sony is really not a particulaly good OEM, when it comes to updates. About the tablet it self : really bugged. Really bad software, mediocre battery life, and filled to the brim with bloatware. Fortunately, root access has been achieved, so that can be dealt with. Design and feel of the tab is awesome, but software wise, it's close to disaster. Far from finished.. I say, put your money on a nexus 10. Same price, better specs, vanilla Android and better support from google and developers alike. Just my 2 cents.
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Yes I tuner to the Xperia this tablet is not for programmers and adventurous. But the Xperia Tablet is a very very useful device - top is the display and the processing - up to now I just noticed a bug - Standby Wifi Bug ... but otherwise everything works super - I have when buying and I'm also expecting no desire to torment me with Custom Roms have more bugs that have been adapted from programmed Hobbyprogs /. Previously I had an LG V900 and the LG IPAD2 there was only one update us .. but from 3.0 to 3.1 and there was already ICS out then the device is not supported in any further a USB connection without function and not a fix. Samsung is not exactly famous for its updates only when the new series - when the unit is 2 years old it was then with updates ... Also, the Google phones and tablets not convince me ... In the end it's like with all things, there is nix perfect one must always make swab ... I already have the Xperia S phone and am very excited so I decided for the Xperia S Tablet ... and I have not regretted it or not root task of the manufacturer is to close the gaps and has the Sony made you can not even be angry ... and JB is certainly the end of January 2013
Ryumari said:
Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. The most important thing is that i have to decide till 30.11 because there's an promotion in my shop. Xperia S + Euti with keyboard in one price.
The main question is that i won't make a big mistake, mainly im concerned about Sony's support for Tabs. I'm sure that Samsung won't leave Tab just like that without any updates and most of developers are now working with Galaxy i guess.
SO, do You think that Xperia S will get updates and developers will take care of that model? Because my friend with older one is very disapointed about Sony's updates, etc.
Thx for any answer and sorry if i did topic in wrong section.
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I agree with Raedek
Premium feel, awesome design and above average display. It could be a winner if not for the buggy software. I couldn't get past the random shutdowns while watching movies or in sleep mode. I've had a positive experience with the nexus 7 so I tend to agree with the suggestion to go with a Nexus 10. Good luck with your decision
Personally I wouldn't touch the Sony S v2 tablet.
I made the mistake with the first Sony Tablet S when it was heavily discounted only to learn that this tablet has very poor developer support: no ROMs and can't even do a nand backup. Updates are also non-existent.
My Sony S is pretty much junk ATM IMHO.
My advice would be to avoid and go for something that is more widely supported (i.e Xoom or Samsung tablets) by developers.
Good luck.
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I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. /QUOTE]
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Totally disagree with all the comments here which seem to come from people that owned the previous tablet, but not the S2.
I don't spend my money lightly and after last years model, I wanted to be sure this was the right tabletl before I spent money on another Sony product.It wasn't the wrong choice, the Xperia Tablet S is a fantastic bit of kit, I don't have any bugs with mine (or bugs that affect me) and it wasn't purchased because of the development support.
If you want development, go with the Nexus 10, but if it's not development you want, the Xperia Tab is for you. Have had it since day 1 and love it!!!
The xperia tablet s is no developer darling. Far from it. Sony is extraordinary slow on updates. My local support didn't even know if jelly bean were "in the making" for the xperia. But official, international Sony has confirmed it. But considering devices like the Motorola zoom allready got jelly bean, despite being 2+ years old, Sony is really not a particulaly good OEM, when it comes to updates. About the tablet it self : really bugged. Really bad software, mediocre battery life, and filled to the brim with bloatware. Fortunately, root access has been achieved, so that can be dealt with. Design and feel of the tab is awesome, but software wise, it's close to disaster. Far from finished.. I say, put your money on a nexus 10. Same price, better specs, vanilla Android and better support from google and developers alike. Just my
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Agreed. Battery life excluded. I like the device, I own it, but it can be underwhelming at times. Personally, I don't like the Nexus 10. Feels cheap and the outstanding specs, like screen resolution and contrast seem subpar comparing to the Xperia Tablet S, even though it embodies half the screen resolution. Seems silly, but that is what I see.
The xperia tablet is one of the best currently on the market. The only android tab that could outdo it in my mind right now is the nexus 10 because of the awesome display and ram...but no sd card slot so if you want lots of storage you have to pay 500.
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Samsung Galaxy S III is a mighty beast? Agreed. Does it have the meanest specs? It does. Can it be upgraded to Android's latest when it comes? Might not be.
S III reviews are coming out and here's a quote from The Verge's review-
"One thing that goes consistently overlooked with respect to Samsung’s phones is the company’s ignominious track record with Android software updates. There may be worse offenders out there, but Samsung’s chronic failure to update its devices on time (or at all) is a significant black mark for a brand looking to lead the way in almost every other respect. Thus, as much as I may enjoy the Galaxy S III today, I have to temper that enthusiasm with the knowledge that its long-term future may not be as rosy as that of a stock Android device"
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/25/3042640/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review
The Galaxy S II ICS update hasn't come to India yet where Sony is almost ready to release ICS updates for their low-end range in a week, despite S II being a flagship. People in this forum are constantly doubting Sony's commitment to their customers. I don't know why but they should never. For a company which is willing to support the developer community for the greater good, nothing speaks more trust than that. So if you worried about the ICS update or future updates about your XPERIA S, never worry. Just wait for a couple of weeks more and you will get it.
So will you trust Sony?
i owned an xperia x10->ray and now xperia s.
the xps is a very good phone i can say is fantastic, i played some howers a go a game made by qualcomm it self (snapdragon) the game is Desert wind still in very very alpha and not even completed and i can say that game completly destroys all tegra 3 games i ever seen!
but lets be honest the galaxy s3 is a better phone in many aspects, is a newer high end phone is normal to be better, not only for the futures he comes with but for the hardware to, if i should buy a new phone right now i'll wait for the galaxy s 3!
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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Even my X10 MP could run ICS. But that's marketing. It has been like that and always will be.
Xperia for life..
Sony simply love the aftermarket developers, users need.
They are social company, not some kind of competitor like apple or samsung, they aiming only for money..
Sony aim also on money, but taking in mind care of users, satisfaction of user, being reliable, accepting if they mistake in something (arc case, xperia s screen) and wiling to repair it for free...
what do you need more?
great phone poor support
i cant think of many reasons, and i have the xperia s,
it has a better screen (ppi) and i prefer the look of the xperia s, when ics comes to the xperia s i might be able to find more however with the s3 having a much larger battery, current reviews(benchmarks) say it has twice the standby time of the htc one x,
although samsung have fallen in the update area, sony have been far from good with theres with something as small as firmware and ics, three, tmobile and orange have all released there version of the .73 firmware to fix the battery drain issue and there is no generic version released as yet and wont be for some weeks, i developed the yellow tint on my first xperia s and had to wait 6 weeks for my phone to be returned, not sure what samsung are like at this but from my point of view i paid £400 for as phone that went dead after 42 days !!!! i should have had a replacement set to me not a repair
then there is ics which has a big stamp on the box saying its upgradable, the one x comes out with it, the 2011 range get it and still another month or two wait for there so called flagship to recieve the update when samsung s2 recieved the upgrade before sony got it to the 2011 range aswell,
sony were once the best in the market but now there one of the worst for it,
as much as i love the phone to pieces and wouldnt swap it for anything else on the market at the moment the support from sony and the timely updates are appalling,
i even had a chat with sony support and asked when the 73 firmware update will be released for generic uk users and his response was "do you mean ics" further training needed too i think,
plus on the xperia s
screen
camera
playstation certified
panorama 3d photos,
hdmi support
styling (see thru cap at bottom is a very good touch esp in a dark room/club)
plus on the samsung
processor
lte version to be released
additional micro sd slot ( i know 32gb is enough but what about when you want to print photos direct from the phone in store) micro sd does come in handy
ics already pre installed,
better browsing due to ics
better multitaksing due to ics the list can go on
when xperia s gets ics i still think the xperia s will be the better phone as you dont need a quad core nowadays but it has to be listed as a pro for the s3, i doubt you will get the use of it for another year or so until some advanced apps come out,
pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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The Samasung track record for updating is much much worse than Sony. Sony is one of the best when it comes to updating for Android. Also I would rather have them wait and release an almost perfect version than push out a crummy one. Go test the HTC One series which have lag issues in ICS and you will see what I mean.
pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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You should try owning a Motorola if you think Sony have done you a disservice.
Fanboi threads are fail. Sony lost alot of good will with the fiasco that was the x10. Samsung ran rings around them and to be fair, and speaking as an S user, they still do. Updates? Sony vs Samsung? It's a no brainer. The S2 didn't get to where it is by shoddy after market support, quite the contrary. If it wasn't for the vast number of pissed off customers the x10 would still be running 2.1. Sony lovers devs? The lols just keep coming. All the aftermarket devs have done has been to show just how incompetent Sony are, how they try to hoodwink their less tech savvy customers by spinning utter bull**** about hardware limitations etc... And the list goes on. 3 months down the line im still waiting to be able to have some fun with my S. Silly me, should have held on to my brilliant S2 and waited for a proper phone by a manufacturer that knows how to please the masses.
Well, I would never, ever consider the Xperia S over the S3. Never. Xperia S in my opinion is a competitor of the GNex. S3? No.
The Hayabusa will be that phone.
And about the updates, remember that Carriers are the biggest problem, specially in these cases of "not in my country!"
And didn't Sony just said they won't update the Xperia Play? I mean, seriously?
lol where is the update for the original flagship arc? They updated the mid end neo V and ray but not the arc how wonderful!! And did you hear they cancelled the update for the xperia play despite "promising" it?
Wait wait where is the update for the xperia S for that matter? Are you even serious making this topic? So what if the S2 update hasnt reached india yet? It's pretty simple to put another country firmware, you really dont need indian firmware just because one lives in india. There is hardly any difference.
Samsung has bad support for their mid end and low end phones yes thats true but it doesnt apply in the slightest bit to their flagship. The galaxy S was one of the first phones after nexus S to get gingerbread. Galaxy S wasnt updated to ICS but neither was any other phone from it's time.
It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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If you cut down the SGSII variants that are a problem of the carriers, the number of devices goes down.
Plus, they should be working in the update of the Xperia S even before it's release. I dunno why they did this the way they did. They screwed up big time IMO.
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It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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HTC is updating most of it's phones as well, even the desire HD which was launched in 2010!! You cant expect them to update something like the wildfire S with a 600mhz CPU and 512MB ROM. The minimum xperia phone getting updated is 1Ghz CPU and 1GB ROM.
Samsung did mess up yes but not on their flagship, do you even know the S2 has started shipping with ICS out of the box? The verge reviewer has no idea what he is talking about.
I never recommend the cheaper samsung phones to anyone but to try to put the S3 in a negative spot because of how samsung treats it's cheaper phones is ridiculous.
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_ii_in_india_is_now_shipping_with_android_40_ics-news-4273.php
The reviewer of The Verge is the guy who got his heart broken by Samsung in the release of the S3.
I'm just pleased to see that he did gave a 0 to the phone.
Another plus for the S3, the dev support it will have will likely be unprecedent. It's already the most preordered gadget in history (sure, the number is much higher than the real purchases because some people have pre ordered different collors and memory amount just to be safe).
Motorola sucks. I hope that with it's new CEO things will change there and they get back on the right track of producing great phones. My Motorola Milestone (2009) is able to run CM9 with it's OMAP3 550mhz (overclocked at 1ghz) and 256mb of RAM, pretty impressive for a device with a locked bootloader, IMO.
I agree with you that Xperia S is better, but your reason isn't right. The thing is everyone's impressed with the s3's specs like qead-core processor although it is something you definitely don't need these days. You will never get to a point when a dual-core will not be enough for ANY kind of software. Moreover, xperia S' camera is better and has faster processor.
Long story short, Samsung is putting a lot of effort on over mighty specifications you don't need, maybe just for the once who compare it to the S by specs only. The ICS delay is annoying I must say, but it is not that terrible.. Another month is not THAT much.
Xperia S is sexy, awesome display and camera, and very fast. Sony is my choice.
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You will never get to a point when a dual-core will not be enough for ANY kind of software. Moreover, xperia S' camera is better and has faster processor.
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They said the same thing about 1Ghz single core CPU's, they always say xyz will always be enough forever but it is never the case. The biggest limitation of xperia S is actually the GPU which really could have been better for 720p resolution. 1.5Ghz dual core CPU and 1GB ram would not cause any issues for a long time.
Xperia S camera is not better just because it has more megapixels. I would think the camera is just about equal on both, the great feature the xperia S has is camera button.
And xperia has faster processor? lol wut?
pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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Did Samsung Galaxy S get ICS? And mind u, Samsung sold a butt load of those.
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To a few people here, easy guys. Let's have a constructive discussion and not a bashing one. I for one am not a Sony representative and am quite an objective gadget lover - have many devices including an iPod touch (because I love Apple's OS fluidoty), a Galaxy S2, the Xperia S and the Ray. It makes sense to love everything
Now to the point I wanted to make. Companies should sometimes care about customers too. The fact that X10 got 2.3 is huge. Do you remember Samsung's first galaxy having anything more than 1.6? Do you remember the HTC Hero with more than 2.1? Sony never left these customers in the lurch. Asking for ICS when you bought the X10 is like wishing for lifetime ice-cream supply.
I will tell you another case which I think everybody should know. Samsung quietly replaced the S2 I9100 with I9100G a couple of months ago in the Indian market. What do you say is all the fuss eh? The chipset inside is not a dual-core Exynos or Mali GFX chipset. It's replaced by Cortex A9 and PowerVR SGX540. The processor was underclocked. The GPU was inferior. Asked Samsung on Twitter and they said that chipsets have been replaced but they have similar performance. Benchmarks around the world suggested otherwise. So is Samsung being very clever? Would you like to buy something that is a lie and a false promise in the first place? They just released this model in developing markets because there was a Exynos shortage for European markets so they realised why not fool the mindless buyers of lowly markets!
And I have one question at the end of this - WOULD YOU HAVE ACCEPTED SUCH MANIPULATIVE MARKET PRACTICES?
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Hardware debate again. The only valid argument for GSIII is its hardware.
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Hi everyone! I will be buying a new phone in a couple of days and was considering the Xperia S as an option. I've been reading this forum as well as some reviews and comments in other forums and blogs, and I've come across very conflicting opinions, so I would like to know if you, as owners, would recommend it.
Before you ask, this is the only Xperia phone available in my country right now, and the other two options I'm considering are the Galaxy Nexus and the S2. As you can see, I'm not looking for the latest most powerfull smartphone but rather a reliable device with a healthy development community (also, there aren't many other powerful smartphones available here but that's a whole different issue).
I currently own a Motorola Defy, which is a very reliable phone, and has a great development community (everything working in CM10!). This has been particularly important for me as the people that own the Defy are very enthusiastic about it, and there's a still a lot going on even almost two years after it's release. I think the Xperia S might be a great choice because of the decent hardware hardware, form and size (galaxy S3 feels too big in my hand), but specially because of its unlockable bootloader and the possibilities that it represents (I'm not really expecting to keep the stock firmware for long).
So, do you think the Xperia S might be a good choice, or would you say I should look into my other options?
Simple lags, not very smooth ui is only problem. Also google is now testing aosp support for xperia s so it could have a very good future. If VERY good hardware is not your choice, then you won't regret buying xps. Although it does simple daily usage very good and you may not notice lags until you are expecting a perfect mobile.
dm_alka said:
Hi everyone! I will be buying a new phone in a couple of days and was considering the Xperia S as an option. I've been reading this forum as well as some reviews and comments in other forums and blogs, and I've come across very conflicting opinions, so I would like to know if you, as owners, would recommend it.
Before you ask, this is the only Xperia phone available in my country right now, and the other two options I'm considering are the Galaxy Nexus and the S2. As you can see, I'm not looking for the latest most powerfull smartphone but rather a reliable device with a healthy development community (also, there aren't many other powerful smartphones available here but that's a whole different issue).
I currently own a Motorola Defy, which is a very reliable phone, and has a great development community (everything working in CM10!). This has been particularly important for me as the people that own the Defy are very enthusiastic about it, and there's a still a lot going on even almost two years after it's release. I think the Xperia S might be a great choice because of the decent hardware hardware, form and size (galaxy S3 feels too big in my hand), but specially because of its unlockable bootloader and the possibilities that it represents (I'm not really expecting to keep the stock firmware for long).
So, do you think the Xperia S might be a good choice, or would you say I should look into my other options?
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Yes I recommend it! I have an Xperia S and a Galaxy S3 but Xperia S is better.
dm_alka said:
Hi everyone! I will be buying a new phone in a couple of days and was considering the Xperia S as an option. I've been reading this forum as well as some reviews and comments in other forums and blogs, and I've come across very conflicting opinions, so I would like to know if you, as owners, would recommend it.
Before you ask, this is the only Xperia phone available in my country right now, and the other two options I'm considering are the Galaxy Nexus and the S2. As you can see, I'm not looking for the latest most powerfull smartphone but rather a reliable device with a healthy development community (also, there aren't many other powerful smartphones available here but that's a whole different issue).
I currently own a Motorola Defy, which is a very reliable phone, and has a great development community (everything working in CM10!). This has been particularly important for me as the people that own the Defy are very enthusiastic about it, and there's a still a lot going on even almost two years after it's release. I think the Xperia S might be a great choice because of the decent hardware hardware, form and size (galaxy S3 feels too big in my hand), but specially because of its unlockable bootloader and the possibilities that it represents (I'm not really expecting to keep the stock firmware for long).
So, do you think the Xperia S might be a good choice, or would you say I should look into my other options?
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Simple, if you don't care about internal memory and want the latest android OS faster and can't wait for it, go for nexus series.
If you want a whooping display and a good camera with good looks, go for XPS.. XPS is relatively new so not a very broad support but its more than enough has a good android future. You won't regret buying any of these..:good:
As far as the lag is concerned, its not there in my device, few users complain about it but i never experienced it, except for the stock contact app, which i don't use
if u considering between nexus and s2, just pick xperia S. nth will go wrong, except for yellow tinted screen.
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if u considering between nexus and s2, just pick xperia S. nth will go wrong, except for yellow tinted screen.
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No yellow tint issue on new batch
Toss a coin , and leave s2 out of it , xperia S has 720p res on its 4.3 , s2 has 800x460 , the xperia S's screen is way way more detailed , and 720p displays are whats new these days :good:
I have an xperia S and it hasnt disapointed me yet
My brothers have the Samsung S2, and I can tell you that the Xperia S is MUCH better!
The Xperia S is an EXCELLENT phone, the only con is that I'm just disappointed with it's camera. I came from a Galaxy Note.
Hi All,
I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. Let me elaborate:
[Background]
Currently on my first android phone, the LG Optimus One and considering it's almost a legacy phone, it has an active dev support and even JB Roms were made for this device. However, i'm currently using the MIUI ROM nd really loving it's interface.
[Current Scenario]
A friend of mine will be coming down from USA, and asked me if i wanted anything, So i thought it will be a good time to upgrade my phone, as i am really tired of installing a custom rom almost every other week, also tired of the legacy ARMv6 phone,
So i searched in newegg, amazon for a phone under 350 USD, and narrowed down to Xperia P and Galaxy Nexus.
Now, I know that if i get a Galaxy nexus, I'm sure i wouldn't have to worry about updates and the really strong dev support, but on the other hand I really love the looks of Xperia P. Also i feel a 4 inch screen is perfect and it has a better camera too.
Now I'm really not into gaming on the phone, and would like to use the "phone as a phone" mainly, with internet browsing, music, HD videos and photography as the other uses.
I also feel that a 4.65 screen is way too big to fit in my pocket.
I have a few questions regarding the Xperia P:
So i'd like to know how the build quality of the Xperia P is?
Is having a non-removable battery a major CON?
Is the Sony 'modded' version of android good enough to not use the custom roms?
Will there be a dev support for Xperia P in terms of custom roms and kernels in the near future?
All in all, which phone do i finally choose in that budget range?
Regards,
CD
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Hi All,
I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. Let me elaborate:
[Background]
Currently on my first android phone, the LG Optimus One and considering it's almost a legacy phone, it has an active dev support and even JB Roms were made for this device. However, i'm currently using the MIUI ROM nd really loving it's interface.
[Current Scenario]
A friend of mine will be coming down from USA, and asked me if i wanted anything, So i thought it will be a good time to upgrade my phone, as i am really tired of installing a custom rom almost every other week, also tired of the legacy ARMv6 phone,
So i searched in newegg, amazon for a phone under 350 USD, and narrowed down to Xperia P and Galaxy Nexus.
Now, I know that if i get a Galaxy nexus, I'm sure i wouldn't have to worry about updates and the really strong dev support, but on the other hand I really love the looks of Xperia P. Also i feel a 4 inch screen is perfect and it has a better camera too.
Now I'm really not into gaming on the phone, and would like to use the "phone as a phone" mainly, with internet browsing, music, HD videos and photography as the other uses.
I also feel that a 4.65 screen is way too big to fit in my pocket.
I have a few questions regarding the Xperia P:
So i'd like to know how the build quality of the Xperia P is?
Is having a non-removable battery a major CON?
Is the Sony 'modded' version of android good enough to not use the custom roms?
Will there be a dev support for Xperia P in terms of custom roms and kernels in the near future?
All in all, which phone do i finally choose in that budget range?
Regards,
CD
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Ok, I have XP for couple of weeks. Build quality is excellent (aluminum unibody) and screen is gorgeous (bright and colorful). I think that non removable battery isnt a major CON, but the capacity could be (about a day on single charge). Sony ICS ROM is fast enough and it looks ok. We have allready couple of custom ROMs and Kernels including CM9.1 so I think that future of developing on XP is bright.
Which phone to choose? Hm, I dont know, both are good, its up to u and ur taste.
Edit: XP will get JB in Q1 2013.
P looks more slick and feels solid to the hand than GNex.
But spec-wise and current software(buttery JB), it's GNex advantage over P.
Tapatalked from my Xperia P
So Galaxy Nexus's only advantage is the super fast OS updates?
How does the camera and music compare between them? The screen isn't that important to me, as i feel there will be a negligible difference between them... Please correct me if i'm wrong
CosmicDance said:
Hi All,
I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. Let me elaborate:
[Background]
Currently on my first android phone, the LG Optimus One and considering it's almost a legacy phone, it has an active dev support and even JB Roms were made for this device. However, i'm currently using the MIUI ROM nd really loving it's interface.
[Current Scenario]
A friend of mine will be coming down from USA, and asked me if i wanted anything, So i thought it will be a good time to upgrade my phone, as i am really tired of installing a custom rom almost every other week, also tired of the legacy ARMv6 phone,
So i searched in newegg, amazon for a phone under 350 USD, and narrowed down to Xperia P and Galaxy Nexus.
Now, I know that if i get a Galaxy nexus, I'm sure i wouldn't have to worry about updates and the really strong dev support, but on the other hand I really love the looks of Xperia P. Also i feel a 4 inch screen is perfect and it has a better camera too.
Now I'm really not into gaming on the phone, and would like to use the "phone as a phone" mainly, with internet browsing, music, HD videos and photography as the other uses.
I also feel that a 4.65 screen is way too big to fit in my pocket.
I have a few questions regarding the Xperia P:
So i'd like to know how the build quality of the Xperia P is?
Is having a non-removable battery a major CON?
Is the Sony 'modded' version of android good enough to not use the custom roms?
Will there be a dev support for Xperia P in terms of custom roms and kernels in the near future?
All in all, which phone do i finally choose in that budget range?
Regards,
CD
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Build quality is sexy, recieved a lot of compliments from my friends, really looks and feels like a premium product despite its mid range price. Having a non removable battery is only a con if you're the type to carry around a spare battery (I dont tend to this) for when youre running low, but with quite a small battery this might be a phone that people would have liked to able to remove the battery, but you can still reset the phone without a battery pull. I very much like the experience of Sony's android, looks nice and is quite smooth in my experience, but up against JB on the nexus not so great i guess. Im hopeful for some dev support in the future, because Sony arent the best when it comes to updates right now we're close to getting cm9.1 i think, i cant really say much on what the future of this phones development holds i dont know much about development... But if you're picking between the Xperia P and Nexus, the nexus has more future support and a better screen and better chipset. Dunno about the nexus camera but ive found pictures and videos taken on my P a bit grainy, and shots taken with auto settings arent always great.. I'd still go with the P because i like the look of it, that was a big thing for me, how the phone looks.
CosmicDance said:
So Galaxy Nexus's only advantage is the super fast OS updates?
How does the camera and music compare between them? The screen isn't that important to me, as i feel there will be a negligible difference between them... Please correct me if i'm wrong
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Camera is better on Xperia P, much better. Music player, Walkman vs. stock android, what do u think?
MadManMark said:
Build quality is sexy, recieved a lot of compliments from my friends, really looks and feels like a premium product despite its mid range price. Having a non removable battery is only a con if you're the type to carry around a spare battery (I dont tend to this) for when youre running low, but with quite a small battery this might be a phone that people would have liked to able to remove the battery, but you can still reset the phone without a battery pull. I very much like the experience of Sony's android, looks nice and is quite smooth in my experience, but up against JB on the nexus not so great i guess. Im hopeful for some dev support in the future, because Sony arent the best when it comes to updates right now we're close to getting cm9.1 i think, i cant really say much on what the future of this phones development holds i dont know much about development... But if you're picking between the Xperia P and Nexus, the nexus has more future support and a better screen and better chipset. Dunno about the nexus camera but ive found pictures and videos taken on my P a bit grainy, and shots taken with auto settings arent always great.. I'd still go with the P because i like the look of it, that was a big thing for me, how the phone looks.
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It's kinda sad that Sony ditches it's products even before a year is completed for the phone, for example the 2011 models aren't getting any updates and i'm sure the same fate awaits the current series of Xperias.
To be honest, I'm really tired of installing custom ROMS frequently, but then i have to depend on them as my current phone(LG Optimus One) has a pathetic stock rom. But Hats off to the devs at the optimus one thread, they even managed JB(CM10) on that phone.
As long as the stock rom is decent enough, i don't mind using an 'older' version of android. Therefore the advantage of frequent updates that the galaxy nexus enjoys doesn't apply to me. i just want a stable phone.
Even the bigger screen of Nexus One is a deterrent for me. Atleast thats how i personally feel.
I'd like to know how the battery life of the Xperia P is, as i'm reading a lot of conflicting reviews regarding this part.
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Camera is better on Xperia P, much better. Music player, Walkman vs. stock android, what do u think?
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Well yeah! It's a walkman
Don't think just go for nexus.
Every thing is better not better perfect
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CosmicDance said:
It's kinda sad that Sony ditches it's products even before a year is completed for the phone, for example the 2011 models aren't getting any updates and i'm sure the same fate awaits the current series of Xperias.
I'd like to know how the battery life of the Xperia P is, as i'm reading a lot of conflicting reviews regarding this part.
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Battery life is decent, about one day on moderate use (1 hour of talk time, 2-3 hours on wlan, couple of sms, couple of camera shots). And about updates, I got ICS update, and one small update after that (bug fixes). XP will get JB in Q1 2013 (new rumor say in early December 2012). Three updates in less than a year, enough for u?
CosmicDance said:
It's kinda sad that Sony ditches it's products even before a year is completed for the phone, for example the 2011 models aren't getting any updates and i'm sure the same fate awaits the current series of Xperias.
To be honest, I'm really tired of installing custom ROMS frequently, but then i have to depend on them as my current phone(LG Optimus One) has a pathetic stock rom. But Hats off to the devs at the optimus one thread, they even managed JB(CM10) on that phone.
As long as the stock rom is decent enough, i don't mind using an 'older' version of android. Therefore the advantage of frequent updates that the galaxy nexus enjoys doesn't apply to me. i just want a stable phone.
Even the bigger screen of Nexus One is a deterrent for me. Atleast thats how i personally feel.
I'd like to know how the battery life of the Xperia P is, as i'm reading a lot of conflicting reviews regarding this part.
Well yeah! It's a walkman
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If you just want to use your phone as a phone without gaming or watching videos the battery should be good enough in the p.
The stock roms are great and look amazing, I prefer them to vanilla android.
The update policy of Sony is okay, even if the 2011 only 'got' ics. I mean, not many other companies update their low end / not flagship phones. Many people I know didn't even update their 2011 Xperias to ics because they don't like it (or don't care). For anyone who depends on the newest firmware there are custom roms.
I'd get a p because of the look and the camera. You can update the p to a newer firmware with custom Roms but there is no way you'll ever get a better camera etc. for the nexus.
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CosmicDance said:
So Galaxy Nexus's only advantage is the super fast OS updates?
How does the camera and music compare between them? The screen isn't that important to me, as i feel there will be a negligible difference between them... Please correct me if i'm wrong
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I feel the screen legibility outdoors is unbeatable in the case of the XP (maybe due to the extra white pixel) , though I have only compared it to the nexus s and HTC legend...
I like the feel and class of aluminium finish (HTC and Sony) more than the plastic feel of Samsung...
Outdoor shots using the stock Sony camera are truly brilliant in detail, but I wish I could say the same with indoor photos and low light photos -both are afflicted by a great amount of noise...
For music, as mentioned earlier, you get the Walkman app, nuff said
I get a day's worth of battery life with moderate 3g/WiFi usage and 1hour of calls, but I carry around my charger just in case and I have a car charger for busier days... Sony's implementation of fast charging is also good, the battery reaches 90% within an hour...
The software updates for Galaxy Nexus will definitely extend beyond JB, but the same cannot be said about Sony...
I ordered the Xperia P guys
Thanks to everyone for helping me making the decision
Hi guys!
First of all let me give you a brief backstory;
I've owned a SGS3 for the better part of the year and although quite satisfied with the performance of the device, could never get over the physical home button and lack of a dedicated recent apps key (AOSP wasnt an option since there was no official support from Sammy; camera/audio/battery life wasnt as good)
I recently purchased a Vaio S15 and I'm really digging the design language that Sony is implementing onto all their devices, and it seems that Sony's finally stepping up their game in the hardware department. I held off getting an Xperia Z since I felt I wouldnt be as satisfied with the screen coming from an AMOLED.
Now the XZU seems to be a real contender for my cash and I love the aesthetic, and dont mind the sheer size of it. Considering the SOD issues and somewhat inconsistent black levels on multiple devices I can say that my only reservation would be good dev support.
Do you guys expect the XZU to be well supported the dev community?
sicmofo said:
Hi guys!
First of all let me give you a brief backstory;
I've owned a SGS3 for the better part of the year and although quite satisfied with the performance of the device, could never get over the physical home button and lack of a dedicated recent apps key (AOSP wasnt an option since there was no official support from Sammy; camera/audio/battery life wasnt as good)
I recently purchased a Vaio S15 and I'm really digging the design language that Sony is implementing onto all their devices, and it seems that Sony's finally stepping up their game in the hardware department. I held off getting an Xperia Z since I felt I wouldnt be as satisfied with the screen coming from an AMOLED.
Now the XZU seems to be a real contender for my cash and I love the aesthetic, and dont mind the sheer size of it. Considering the SOD issues and somewhat inconsistent black levels on multiple devices I can say that my only reservation would be good dev support.
Do you guys expect the XZU to be well supported the dev community?
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Great device, only unlocked my bootloader this week, rooted and had CM10.1 up and running, you wont be disappointed, these small software bugs are nothing more and im sure will be iorned out, if not by Sony, by our devs. It feels a million dollars over other plasticky phone, Samsung, no names mentioned.
There are a few devs who've announced roms are underway including pacman and paranoid I believe. Some roms on z1 are gonna be porting to us too. Think that's the thing, this phone is gonna be small market I reckon, but as it's the same hardware as the z1 we'll get most of those roms ported as well as the ones our own devs create.
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There are a few devs who've announced roms are underway including pacman and paranoid I believe. Some roms on z1 are gonna be porting to us too. Think that's the thing, this phone is gonna be small market I reckon, but as it's the same hardware as the z1 we'll get most of those roms ported as well as the ones our own devs create.
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Yup. Remember when the Note was released? Crickets, crickets everywhere. The activity was very low, and then out of nowhere, it just exploded. It may be a little quiet here now, but i bet it'll get better when people have had the chance to get the Ultra and get to know it a little. Patience is the word here, patience.
i guess flashaholics dont have patience .
Reminds me of a beautiful saying if you build it...
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I realise posting in this section will get me biased reviews, but Im 99% sure the xperia tablet s is right for me just want a few opnions from people who have one.
My situation is that my windows laptop has about had it, it still works but even after a fresh format it just doesnt keep up with me these days. For the first time ever since my first wndows 3.1 machine I am wanting to move away from microsoft completly and move across to android (I will be keepig the windows laptop in a cupboard just in case theres something I cant do on android such as root a phone and such, you just never know)
I got myself my first android phone back in April which is an xperia T and I have fallen in love with it, I have rooted it, unlocked the boot loader and now got it running exactly how I want with no glitches, at the time it was a close call between the T and the Samsung S3 however after owning the T I am glad I went with sony over sammy mainly for how professional and business like it feels, the samsung just looks and feels like a childs phone compared in my opinion
This leads me to the tablet obviously the xperia z tablet would be my ideal choice, but I just cant warrant having that much in a tablet so my options came down to:
Xperia Tablet S
Nexus 10
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
I really want to stay with the Sony Brand mainly because I love their take on android over samsung or stock android, Im just a little worried that Im buying something that is a dead or at least fast dying tablet? Mainly because sony seem to have discontinued everything now, obviously they are really pushing the z phone and tableand seem to be neglecting almost every other model
Would I be better going with the much more popular tab 2, samsung do seem to keep things well updated and there is a much larger raange of accessories?
Or paying out a little more and getting the superior Nexus 10? The display sounds fantastic and I am sure I would love the nexus 10, but its quite a lot me expensive than the s
I would use it for emails, typing on the internet in forums, surfing the net and controlling my synology disk station, then maybe when me and the misses go away watching a film, but that would be about as far as I would ever need to push the tablet
Just wanting to hear real world opinions and such on the xperia tablet s, if you have one, do you with you had something else or do you love it?
dougie175 said:
I realise posting in this section will get me biased reviews, but Im 99% sure the xperia tablet s is right for me just want a few opnions from people who have one.
My situation is that my windows laptop has about had it, it still works but even after a fresh format it just doesnt keep up with me these days. For the first time ever since my first wndows 3.1 machine I am wanting to move away from microsoft completly and move across to android (I will be keepig the windows laptop in a cupboard just in case theres something I cant do on android such as root a phone and such, you just never know)
I got myself my first android phone back in April which is an xperia T and I have fallen in love with it, I have rooted it, unlocked the boot loader and now got it running exactly how I want with no glitches, at the time it was a close call between the T and the Samsung S3 however after owning the T I am glad I went with sony over sammy mainly for how professional and business like it feels, the samsung just looks and feels like a childs phone compared in my opinion
This leads me to the tablet obviously the xperia z tablet would be my ideal choice, but I just cant warrant having that much in a tablet so my options came down to:
Xperia Tablet S
Nexus 10
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
I really want to stay with the Sony Brand mainly because I love their take on android over samsung or stock android, Im just a little worried that Im buying something that is a dead or at least fast dying tablet? Mainly because sony seem to have discontinued everything now, obviously they are really pushing the z phone and tableand seem to be neglecting almost every other model
Would I be better going with the much more popular tab 2, samsung do seem to keep things well updated and there is a much larger raange of accessories?
Or paying out a little more and getting the superior Nexus 10? The display sounds fantastic and I am sure I would love the nexus 10, but its quite a lot me expensive than the s
I would use it for emails, typing on the internet in forums, surfing the net and controlling my synology disk station, then maybe when me and the misses go away watching a film, but that would be about as far as I would ever need to push the tablet
Just wanting to hear real world opinions and such on the xperia tablet s, if you have one, do you with you had something else or do you love it?
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Wait for 2nd gen Nexus 10. These Sony tabs are locked down and don't really get any updates anymore. I would wait for the next Nexus 10, and either get the new Nexus 10, or get a used 1st gen Nexus 10 when the prices drop.
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Wait for 2nd gen Nexus 10. These Sony tabs are locked down and don't really get any updates anymore. I would wait for the next Nexus 10, and either get the new Nexus 10, or get a used 1st gen Nexus 10 when the prices drop.
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Thanks I have been half thinking that, I just love the Sony android style, like the idea of phone and tablet being the same. Does the final fw for the xps have issues or is it a great firmware? If it's perfect I don't really need future updates, however if it's poor and the bootloader is locked, guess I would be stuck. Thanks
dougie175 said:
Thanks I have been half thinking that, I just love the Sony android style, like the idea of phone and tablet being the same. Does the final fw for the xps have issues or is it a great firmware? If it's perfect I don't really need future updates, however if it's poor and the bootloader is locked, guess I would be stuck. Thanks
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Right now, the XTS has some issues with Wi-Fi even though one of the updates was supposed to fix it, and I've heard of a bug where the Tegra 3 will only use 2 cores instead of all 4. The core count bug is fixable with a root app, but it's not exactly permanent and it doesn't always work. And trust me, even though you say you won't mind not getting updates, once you flash 4.4 or some future version of android on your phone, you will change your mind. The screen on the XTS is crap too, with bad color saturation, low resolution, and bad viewing angles. You would be much happier with a Nexus 10.
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Right now, the XTS has some issues with Wi-Fi even though one of the updates was supposed to fix it, and I've heard of a bug where the Tegra 3 will only use 2 cores instead of all 4. The core count bug is fixable with a root app, but it's not exactly permanent and it doesn't always work. And trust me, even though you say you won't mind not getting updates, once you flash 4.4 or some future version of android on your phone, you will change your mind. The screen on the XTS is crap too, with bad color saturation, low resolution, and bad viewing angles. You would be much happier with a Nexus 10.
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Thanks for the advice, I'll take it and get myself a nexus 10 shame not to have the Sony ui, but the nexus seems a great device, can't justify the extra for the Xperia z just to get the Sony ui.
Never know I may even end up preferring stock android
dougie175 said:
Thanks for the advice, I'll take it and get myself a nexus 10 shame not to have the Sony ui, but the nexus seems a great device, can't justify the extra for the Xperia z just to get the Sony ui.
Never know I may even end up preferring stock android
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There are plenty of Sony themes for ROMs with the theme engine anyway, so if you unlock the bootloader on the Nexus you could make it look similar to a Sony anyway
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There are plenty of Sony themes for ROMs with the theme engine anyway, so if you unlock the bootloader on the Nexus you could make it look similar to a Sony anyway
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Sounds like the solution if I don't like the stock ui.
Cheers buddy think you have pushed me in the right direction
dougie175 said:
Sounds like the solution if I don't like the stock ui.
Cheers buddy think you have pushed me in the right direction
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Have a look at the xtz its fully supported by the sony MOBILE team not viao so its a good option if you want to flash roms at a later date
rooted lighting wildfire on unoffical j.b from benni
and sony XTS rooted stock j.b thanks djrbliss
dex9mm said:
Have a look at the xtz its fully supported by the sony MOBILE team not viao so its a good option if you want to flash roms at a later date
rooted lighting wildfire on unoffical j.b from benni
and sony XTS rooted stock j.b thanks djrbliss
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Yeah thanks for the suggestion as I said in my original post its a little more than I want to have in a tablet to be honest.
I have actually ended up buying a nexus 10 and a 2nd gen nexus 7, as I couldnt decide which would be right for me, Ill have a good go with both of them and decide before factory resetting one and sticking it back on ebay, fortunatly good condition second hand ones go for about £5 less than brand new ones on ebay.
I just couldnt decide between them if I wanted the screen size or the weight advantage