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So... About 4 days ago, I noticed that I couldn't connect to 4G anymore, but 3G works fine. Now I've always had full signal 4G where I live because there's a tower just down the block by the Sprint store. I can connect and I even get an I.P. address, but there's no data getting through. You can imagine how many times I went to recovery, cleared data, wiped, re-flashed, all the while thinking it was the ROM that had problems.
The answer came to me in the form of my younger brother. He has the Evo Shift and also had been having issues with his 4G. Now his phone is stock, so that ruled out the ROM being the issue (thank GOD I thought I somehow screwed my WiMax). So he tells me there was a power outage about 4 days ago at around 3am, since then he hasn't been able to connect.
What I'm thinking is- IT'S BEEN 4 DAYS... You guys here who work at Sprint, do you think a small power outage can bork the 4G network for 4 days?
And if so, how come it hasn't affected the 3G network as well?
Maybe It's another issue altogether...
Sprint actually has 4G?
Zoidpilot said:
So... About 4 days ago, I noticed that I couldn't connect to 4G anymore, but 3G works fine. Now I've always had full signal 4G where I live because there's a tower just down the block by the Sprint store. I can connect and I even get an I.P. address, but there's no data getting through. You can imagine how many times I went to recovery, cleared data, wiped, re-flashed, all the while thinking it was the ROM that had problems.
The answer came to me in the form of my younger brother. He has the Evo Shift and also had been having issues with his 4G. Now his phone is stock, so that ruled out the ROM being the issue (thank GOD I thought I somehow screwed my WiMax). So he tells me there was a power outage about 4 days ago at around 3am, since then he hasn't been able to connect.
What I'm thinking is- IT'S BEEN 4 DAYS... You guys here who work at Sprint, do you think a small power outage can bork the 4G network for 4 days?
And if so, how come it hasn't affected the 3G network as well?
Maybe It's another issue altogether...
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4G is WiMax and 3G is EVDO so one getting knocked out might not affect the other....also, if they haven't had reports about that particular tower, they might not know to fix it.
To the poster above: if your not going to be helpful, don't post.
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That sucks man. I'm blanketed in supposedly 4g service and can't get it neither. I wanna go take a dump on one of their towers.
Can a power outage kill 4G? Certainly. Cell towers work like many other electronic devices, and are still prone to things getting shorted (Even if there are several layers of protection to try and stop that). I would honestly recommend calling tech about it and seeing if the towers near you have any posted outages, or at least report the issue.
They likely cannot fix the issue unless they know about it, and if everyone presumes everyone else will report the issue; it may never get reported.
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Can a power outage kill 4G? Certainly. Cell towers work like many other electronic devices, and are still prone to things getting shorted (Even if there are several layers of protection to try and stop that). I would honestly recommend calling tech about it and seeing if the towers near you have any posted outages, or at least report the issue.
They likely cannot fix the issue unless they know about it, and if everyone presumes everyone else will report the issue; it may never get reported.
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I'll call tomorrow and bother someone over at the local sprint. I'm just wondering how did the 4G go out and not the 3G network. Oddly enough I also noticed the 3G network is slightly faster now... i.e. - I could never watch HD movies on Youtube without having the 4G on, now since of course I can't connect I tried on 3G and it didn't skip a beat. Maybe breathing too much spray paint fumes is making me crazy
The 4G sits on a separate tower from the Sprint tower's as the 4G is provided via Clear.
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The 4G sits on a separate tower from the Sprint tower's as the 4G is provided via Clear.
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Gotcha
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I've made references to this in Q&A, so apologies if you've read this already.
Simply put, my mobile data does not work on this phone. What I'm finding is if I leave a WiFi network or go to/from Sprint to roaming data, the hand-off to cellular data never happens as one of three things invariably occurs:
a) Mobile Data is stuck in 'turning on...' and thus I have no signal at all;
b) I have signal but no throughput (the up/down arrows never light up and I get no data connection);
c) the phone just reboots.
So basically if I change my network state, I can't go back until I reboot. Toggling Mobile Data does nothing in any of these instances. Now I expect holes in the software during a device release, but not holes you can drive a truck through. If anyone is experiencing the same issue or has any ideas, I'd love to hear them. If it's not solved by the end of my 14-day rescission period, this thing is done for.
I had this same exact problem. Update your profile and PRL. That fixed it for me but I dunno if that will fix the problem permanently. Might be a hardware defect but I hope it was just a prl/profile issue.
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I've tried updating my profile and PRL and unfortunately that did nothing, and moments ago I gave up and called Customer Care to reactivate my OG EVO.
Of course, 30 seconds after that was all done the representative told me there's an EVDO data issue/outage that has been persistent in Philadelphia since the 22nd. You'd think they'd tell their store reps this valuable information, but such is not the case. I'm going to try running some tests on my OG EVO for comparison's sake and see how much truth they're telling me before I put the LTE back in the box and tell Sprint where they can shove it.
I have noticed some quirkyness with the WiFi/3g handoff on the phone on stock and viperROM. I am in the Philly market too, possibly the issue.
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It's becoming unbearable. I lose my 3g connection about 3 times a day. But today, it's lost it about 20 times and that's no exaggeration. It's lost mobile data at least 5 times in the last hour. HTC has got to do something about this.
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So I reactivated my OG EVO and sure enough, 3G data speeds are nothing short of awful in the 19103 area (~6KB/sec on average), compared to the 19106 area a mile or so away -- there's definitely an EVDO issue in the area. However, the OG EVO is not exhibiting the same WiFi/roaming hand-off issues that the EVO LTE is; that has to be a software issue specific to the phone. Seeing as I frequently walk in and out of various WiFi blankets throughout the city several times every day, this bug is a deal-breaker for me.
When I leave a wifi area I've noticed it takes a very long time to pick up 3G. It was nearly instant on my E4GT.
I just had the same issue with my mobile connection. Updating my profile and PRL seemed to do the trick. Changing from wi-fi to mobile also takes over a minute...
change your phone from cdma/lte mode to cdma mode, did the trick for a few friends of mine.
I've also been having the same issues. My phone will just drop 3G and go to roaming or no signal at all constantly. I also live in the Philly area so I'm hoping since we're in the second wave to get LTE that its just Sprint working on the network but I'm starting to suspect that we have a serious problem with our phones. Im on my second phone & a few different ROMS including stock & I've been having the problem since pre relase while my wife's Samsung E4GT has had no issues.
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Well I took the advice from another thread and switched from CDMA/LTE to CDMA only & I haven't had any issues with my 3G dropping or with the WiFi to 3G handoff. Don't know if that fixed the problem or if Sprint just isn't working on the towers today.
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Okay this is starting to piss me off. I loose 3G service anytime I unlock the phone. In my house I can not keep a call connected to save my life, even though I have 4 bars. My 3G just looses signal. Its not when I switch from WiFi. It just does it on its own.
The first thing I tried was to turn the CDMA/LTE to just CDMA, tested this for 2 days nothing. I updated both Profile and PRL.... nothing.
I am really tempted to walk into a Sprint store and through down because this is unacceptable. And this happened to my first EVO LTE, so I returned it within my 14 days, got a second one and its doing the same thing. I thought well maybe its because I am in the Chicago Subbards but I have been in 2 other states and I have the same issue.
Anyone know of a fix or when HTC will actually fix their newest phone? I mean come on really guys, how is this okay?
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Also, I tried turning off NFC and that doesn't help either.
And is anyone else's EVO get REALLY hot?
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Okay this is starting to piss me off. I loose 3G service anytime I unlock the phone. In my house I can not keep a call connected to save my life, even though I have 4 bars. My 3G just looses signal. Its not when I switch from WiFi. It just does it on its own.
The first thing I tried was to turn the CDMA/LTE to just CDMA, tested this for 2 days nothing. I updated both Profile and PRL.... nothing.
I am really tempted to walk into a Sprint store and through down because this is unacceptable. And this happened to my first EVO LTE, so I returned it within my 14 days, got a second one and its doing the same thing. I thought well maybe its because I am in the Chicago Subbards but I have been in 2 other states and I have the same issue.
Anyone know of a fix or when HTC will actually fix their newest phone? I mean come on really guys, how is this okay?
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Also, I tried turning off NFC and that doesn't help either.
And is anyone else's EVO get REALLY hot?
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Have the same issue on 2 diffrent EVO lte's . I heard it could be towers or the software on the phone . I think its the pho e because I've heard the s3 dosnt have these issues .
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same problem here
started a thread over on the sprint site here
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/445385#445385
I thought it was the towers as well, but I been in 3 states the exact same issue...
Im in naperville and im waiting for lte to be up and running before I buy the Evo lte...my brother is having the same problems as you...looks like another month before its ready...patiently waiting...hang in there
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As of today, dead. Voice is ok. 3G is gone. (Philly)
Im in lexington sc and for about a week now my data (which i had inside my house just fine) has been out almost completely and i have called 3 times and got 3 different reasons on why this is. Now last night they tell me that there is NO eta on when it will return????? WTF! This better be a LTE thing. If not this is getting out of control fast... They said id be credited for the outage, well data is 50% of what we pay for. This is unacceptable sprint...
Say if it is a software issue shouldn't most people have this issue ?
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probably, depending on which software/firmware version you're running. I think it's more specifically related to the radio version/fw vs the towers causing it. it seems more and more like i get varied results depending on where i'm at. always the same end result, just the behavior in how long 3g stays connected varies.
I have been dealling with the same issues. I was driving and my data went out. Can't get data only if I connect to a WiFi, I tried everything. I am on the latest firmware, prl, ect. I got it back yesterday about 5 hours later but as soon as I go to an area with no service it will not come back. (Voice and text work fine) I am still without data since Noon today. I know I have 3G because my old Epic 4G is working fine. I even flashed the radio again and flashed the whole firmware again. Still doesn't work. I am about to take it back and get the Samsung....
My data signal on HTC EVO 4G LTE keeps dropping on and off. It doesnt matter if I am on CDMA or CDMA/LTE mode. I am located in Overland Park, KS and the 4g coverage is spotty here.
I opened a network ticket with the Technical support team. He checked my location, outages etc and concluded that it wasn't a network issue.
Then I found two more threads on cummunity.sprint.com with similar issues. I cant post URLs here due to newbie status, but if you search for 3g connectivity issues for HTC EVO, you will find them.
Per the threads, its not a device issue (swapped devices have the same issue). The OTA update that came out a few days before didn't fix it. A customer service rep also did a software reset of my phone, which didn't help either. So if its not network or hardware, then it has to be the software.
It very well could be that the HTC sense s/w has a faulty wake call for the data radio. Apparently, the 3G radio will be shut off after some time to save battery. The sleep or wake functionality in the HTC Sense for the 3G radio seems faulty.
Is there a workaround for this issue?
Install Mobile Signal Widget Pro.
I have it on mine and my device will show 3G but its stuck on 1x or the widget will show an exclimation point. Which is a data connection error.
I am in Dallas, an active LTE area. But LTE is spotty where i am at. I have noticed that if my device tries to connect to LTE it has problems going back to 3G.
Right now i am stuck with CDMA ONLY due to this bug. But i have still seen it happen a time or two, but less then when i had CDMA/LTE..
Also the only way to fix the data issue is by powering off my phone and turning it back on.
Hope this helps. I believe its a HTC / Sprint LTE bug that does need to get fixed.
Im jumping ship shortly to the GS3 if they dont resolve this.
I'm in Overland park as well. I had 4g on the 15th, although very slow and only outside. And now that isn't available. And the 3g is spotty. Always turning on and off.
It's the towers regardless of what they say.
I frequent an area that gets horrible 3g coverage despite what the spring map says. Sprint reps have given me every possible amount of BS as far as explanations. Yesterday, I turned on data roaming and after about 3 minutes, tapatalk finally loaded. Then another 3 min for a thread ro load, etc. After about 10, I had almost a 20% battery drain and my phone was about to overheat. I heard that while roaming on Verizon towers, we're only getting 1X. Is this true?
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Its this phone for sure. I came from the Evo 3D and never had issues. The first day heading to work on this phone i noticed my 3g which always worked the entire ride and while at work, was spotty with this phone. I barely get 3g in work now. Pretty annoying. I'm using the new radios that came in the update and no change.
I had the same issue until I flashed xHausx's deodexed ROM, which includes the latest OTA fixes. That mitigated my issues, and the free Sprint AIRAVE they sent when I complained enough helped out considerably.
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Happens to me!
If I turn on airplane mode and turn it back off the problem clears and goes back to 4g or 3g speeds.
I started experiencing this problem last night and I've yet to iron it out. I've tried several things. Looking forward to a fix. Going back to the OG or the 3VO in the meantime.
Edit: For those of you still experiencing this issue (FOLLOW THE LINK IN THE POST BELOW); as well as, those of you that encounter this ... I was able to get things back to normal w/resetting the device back to factory through ##72786#. After going through the activation process (or manually reprogramming your device) you should be back on track. Hopefully someone finds this helpful.
Of any of you are still having this issue try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153371
Its in the evo3d forums but it still works on the evo-lte
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laie1472 said:
Of any of you are still having this issue try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153371
Its in the evo3d forums but it still works on the evo-lte
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Something similar to this worked when I was having issues with data not turning on at all when on lte/cdma. But the issue we're seeing in kansas city here is just due to the work they're doing. It's just on n off all the time on 3g. And places where I had 4g, no longer do. The 4g I had was only pulling 1.5 down, so I think that's getting bumped up to what it should be.
I'm getting these data drops as well. I'm in Gaithersburg, MD. It was just announced that lte will be in Baltimore next month, maybe they are working on the network? I might swap this one for another but it might just happen again?
I had to reset my phone 7 times today to get data back.
Phone would drop from 4g to slooooow 3g, I turn on airplane mode and turn it right back off and BAM, 4g is back.
This is definitely a phone issue!
It's not a phone issue.. Notice how all of us seeing this are all in first run LTE areas. KC, Baltimore, Texas. We're all supposed to have 4g but don't, and the network is kicking on and off. swapping out for a new phone will not help.
It's the network, not your phone.
I've had my Evo LTE since launch, and have had call issues since the beginning. I came from the OG Evo, and knew Sprint had bad coverage in some areas around me; but this has been much much worse. I would say 4 out 5 calls drop immediately upon connection. I will have half or more signal when I call and as soon as it connects it drops off and I look and there are 0 bars. Oh, I'm also not in a town which has the updated network/LTE. I had done the HTC Unlock immediately, so I was nervous about trying to take my phone back. But thanks to this amazing guide, I can get it back to stock. Has anyone else had issues like this fixed by getting a new phone?
My main question is who do I take it back to? I have the BB Black Tie insurance, so I was thinking that would be easiest/quickest exchange. But I wasn't sure how they would react since there is nothing visibly wrong with the phone. And I'm sure as soon as I get in Best Buy it will work flawlessly .
are you in an area that is currently undergoing Network vision updates? In my area (Chicago suburbs), sprint acknowledged that the NV upgrades were causing problems.
I constantly get "no data connection" when I have 3 bars (not roaming) :/
have try doing a service reset? ##72786#
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iamkoza said:
are you in an area that is currently undergoing Network vision updates? In my area (Chicago suburbs), sprint acknowledged that the NV upgrades were causing problems.
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No, I'm in Oklahoma and we don't even have a date for the upgrades yet .
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have try doing a service reset? ##72786#
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I have not. I'm assuming it's okay to do this running S-Off and custom Rom (CM10)?
I have also noticed terrible 3G speeds, much much worse than my OG Evo.
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No, I'm in Oklahoma and we don't even have a date for the upgrades yet .
I have not. I'm assuming it's okay to do this running S-Off and custom Rom (CM10)?
I have also noticed terrible 3G speeds, much much worse than my OG Evo.
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yeah its ok....the ##72786# it's going to reset your data and voice...as soon as you put the ##72786# on your phone is going to ask for the msl enter it then press menu and reset....your phone is going to reboot and run the hands-free activation...just let it run and test it out see if it works
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What part of Oklahoma?
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Tulsa
I'm in north okc and have the exact same issue. I've been in numerous lengthy phone calls with sprint about this and I'm on my second phone to no avail. My girls phone is the same. This phone does not like the okc area whatsoever. I remember my 3d was the same. I am currently at the point of leaving sprint for this. I love this phone but its driving me crazy. And let's not get into peak hours data drop.... I'm so frustrated with sprint right now.
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Well, I think I'm going to go back full stock tomorrow and run it by a Sprint repair store. Guys in IRC channel recommended I have them check my radios. I work with a guy who has a Samsung on Sprint and doesn't have great signal, but better than mine! I'm so torn right now, I know if i switched to Verizon I'd have great LTE signal all over town, but I wanted to support Sprint and see if they could fix their network. Now I'm regretting it but stuck in contract. But then again if I were to switch, there aren't really any phones I'm interested in on Verizon...
I love this phone but, I am.pissed and tired of repair stores, and sprint technical, and supervisors, and credits. They can see that most of my disconnects are device related and still won't switch me to another device or something. I really don't even want to switch. But, I totally believe its network being upgraded and this device is designed for something other than what's offered in my area.
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lawnguy said:
I love this phone but, I am.pissed and tired of repair stores, and sprint technical, and supervisors, and credits. They can see that most of my disconnects are device related and still won't switch me to another device or something. I really don't even want to switch. But, I totally believe its network being upgraded and this device is designed for something other than what's offered in my area.
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Send it in to htc and have them fix it. They warranty it for a year.
I had one that dropped calls but my second one is perfect.
Well, I'm going to try to get to the Sprint store later this afternoon. Will update here with result. If it's just their **** network, think they might let me out of contract if I ***** enough? If they do, then where do I go? I freaking love this phone, but if it can't make phone calls I can't keep it...
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I went to a Sprint store on Saturday to see what they said. As soon as I mentioned dropped calls and crappy speeds he started apologizing. Evidently they have begun the network update in Oklahoma, which means that a lot of towers are down or not at normal capacity. He said this has been going on most of the year and that the network should be back at normal capacity by the end of the year. He also said he had heard LTE by June-July of 2013, but was just a rumor. He reset my profile and PRL and said it might help. I'm going to stick it out as of now and hope they can produce a solid LTE network. I do really love Sprint and their fight for unlimited data, just hope they keep it up.
Dropped Calls
I, too, have had terrible luck with calls dropping with this phone. I was on the OG EVO and did not have these issues at all. From looking at this site s4gru.com I do not believe that my area (Indy) should be under any network updating as of yet. However, it also looks like Oklahoma should not be, either - so maybe they started early
In the end...my old EVO did not have issues up to the day I upgraded, and the new EVO has had issues since day 1. I do not believe this is a network issue, but more of a hardware/radio/phone design issue. I hoped the newest updates (including radio) would help, but I am still dropping calls way too often.
Hi I used to have the S3, obviously I have the Note2, I notice that the location of work in nyc area had constant 4G all day. Now it bounces 3G most of the time. So what I did it checked mobile networks from global to LTE..
Is that right or should I leave it to global. When on global it searches for a better signal all the time. Maybe my sim card is bad??
Are there any issues with the radio, baseband, software issues?
Maybe my phone has an issue with the antenna?
I actually in fact live in NYC as well (downtown manhattan to be specific) and in my area, when i start to drive out, I bounce to 3G then eventually to 4G. Its everytime I drive out. Not sure if its the path or something .Doesn't really bother me because I shouldn't be using this beast while driving but just noticed if that helps.
Great to hear from you, neighbor! Yes some odd reason the phone bounces in & out 3G then 4G. Its annoying....But I thought it was just me.
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Great to hear from you, neighbor! Yes some odd reason the phone bounces in & out 3G then 4G. Its annoying....But I thought it was just me.
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I live in Florida and I was noticing my phone jump from 4g to 3g and back yesterday while at home where I normally have solid 4g.
I found the opposite. Cincinnati Ohio tho but my 4G is rock solid on my note II and was ehhhhh on my GSIII
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Glad to hear I'm not alone...I was ready to bring the phone back.
I guess the Samsung phones don't have a great antennas. My partner has a Motorola Bionic, his phone is 4G, all day. Other partner has a Rezound his is 3G but full signal strength.
We have the same signal bars strength wise. But his is 4G mine is 3G.
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Outside of Philly and my phone was randomly going into 3G the other night. I think it's network related as I restarted and had 4G back.
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Outside of Philly and my phone was randomly going into 3G the other night. I think it's network related as I restarted and had 4G back.
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Yes I too had to restart the phone and I would get 4G.
Wouldn't that be an issue with the sim card at that point? I wouldnt think its the phone because the sim is what recognizes Verizon LTE networks?
Cirrect me if I'm wrong, I want to figure this out.
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Restarting causes the phone to re-authenticate with the network. Picking up 4G again is likely just luck of the draw. If a local tower (or towers) are having problems, you may keep 4G until there is an issue, then it'll disappear again until you swap towers, toggle airplane mode, or restart the phone. Without talking to VZW though, there is no telling if it is a network issue, or a device issue. Given the number of people that have seen problems recently though, I'm going to go with network issue.
I have 4G issues as well, seems just a day or so after rooting. I haven't seen 4G since; I've restarted several times, pulled sim card, put in airplane mode. I think I need the "get a new sim card" fix. I am rooted but no roms installed; does anyone know should I go full stock before walking into the store and asking for a new card? Or will I be ok since it's only rooted?
I had 4g issues this morning and this evening (in boston); reboots restored but i have no doubt this is verizon crap; my razr periodically had the same issue. At work i had no 4g issues. Drives me batty - I think the only fix is for at&t to record these issues and start using them in advertisements
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I have 4G issues as well, seems just a day or so after rooting. I haven't seen 4G since; I've restarted several times, pulled sim card, put in airplane mode. I think I need the "get a new sim card" fix. I am rooted but no roms installed; does anyone know should I go full stock before walking into the store and asking for a new card? Or will I be ok since it's only rooted?
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Ok..I just replaced my sim from Verizon. They told me there was a bad batch of sims. So they gave me the 2nd batch. Please don't quote me, because that guy was a sales person who tries to sell me everything in the store...lol
I will let everybody know within a day or two.
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when i have lte issues I'll throw my phone in airplane mode for a couple seconds, then take it off. works most of the time for me.
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I'm no longer having issues, in fact I'm now seeing 4g in areas that were only 3g before. I think it was just network related.
EDIT: See you got it sorted out. Sorry for the bump.
I've noticed over the past few days that I've really been bouncing around a lot. Seems to go through phases.