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Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
To show you what I mean, I just restarted the phone and killed everything except:
WaveSecure Beta
com.google.android.apps.mapssomething that goes off the screen) - can't kill this
HTC Sense
Touch Input
com.htc.provider
Go back to it 10 minutes later and I also have the following open:
Settings
vizBattery
Wi-Fi Status
Google Mail
Thats without me touching it at all.... if I had also used the Twitter app, Facebook, messaging etc then they would all still be open, the browser and music player would probably be there too.
It's normal fo it to start some apps on its own, for example peep (htc's twitter program) the music player (only if you have a widget on one of the homescreens)
same goes for calander etc etc google mail is push so it has to be opened to recieve messaged realtime.
Things like batterystatus thingy's often drain your battery and sometimes slow down your device I suggest removing that.
Also I don't know about wifi status but can imagine that draining battery to since
I don't think that will be running without your wifi being on. When continuosly searching for networks your device also will slow down, and drain the battery
My english isn't perfect so I hope you understand what I'm saying.
edit: do you use the official t-mobile rom or a custom? Don't know if htc released the last update for t-mob devices. That update really improved almost everything
so if you don't have that it's ''normal'' for the device to lag.
Some apps register themselves to start automatically. Obviously Gmail needs to run if you're syncing a Gmail account.
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
However, for the most part, it doesn't really matter since many of the apps that appear to be "running" will not be consuming any CPU time (and by extension battery life) unless they are designed to run in the background.
In addition, as Stafflover has already said, I'd also suggest you try removing vizBattery - whilst I've no specific experience with this app, I've heard that many battery status widgets drain the battery significantly.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
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AutoStarts does the same job, also paid. using it for weeks, works great.
programs starting up
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
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Hey Pal! I had the same problem then I got into a bit of app development and understood. Some service need to be "broadcasting" and some other to be "listening". Best you can do is sometimes tell them how often to "wake up and check". But if you think about it, a program MUST be checking on a few things, at least sometimes, to give you the "android experience". Also, no matter how much you care about that number you see in the "free ram" widget (assunming you use taskiller with the widget), it is not very important until it REALLY does slow your phone down. Some apps are worse than others at clogging up or draining your battery: try them, weigh how useful they really are for you and then decide what to keep (running) Ciao!
Hello All,
My girlfriend just got a new Orange SGS2. The phone is great, really slim, fast at playing games, high linpack score etc.
However there is a problem that really bothers me, apps load pretty much instantly however when you press the home button they take ~6 seconds to close!
This happens with even the most basic apps such as the dialler or contacts and is very frustrating as I am sure the SGS2 should be performing better than this. My HTC Desire (and even my old HTC hero to a slightly lesser extent) closes apps pretty much instantly
Hope the gurus of XDA can help with this one.
Many thanks,
hopoffbaby
Okay, the reason your old phone shut them instantly was because it needed to free up resources.
The SGS2 is a far superior phone in terms of spec and as such it doesn't need to shut its apps the moment you hit home.
Android is very capable to say the least when managing its resources so stop watching the task-manager and RAM usage, don't use a task killer and just enjoy life with the SGS2 it'll never struggle.
Mine regularly has 15+ apps running in the background with no noticeable effect on its stunning performance.
Hi,
I think you have misunderstood me. I'm not talking about the kernel killing the apps to free memory, I'm talking about how long it take to return to the home screen after pressing the home (or back) button.
For example, I open the contacts app and it loads instantly. When i click the home button I can count to 6 (slowly) before I am back at the home screen.... It is incredibly annoying and I am sure it is not how Samsung intended??
Thanks again,
hopoffbaby
Should be instant .
You may need to factory reset after backing up data .
jje
Hi,
I was hoping to avoid a factory reset. I have read a few people are having issues (none seem to be as long as 6 seconds though) and that it may be related to the voice control or the touchwiz launcher?
Any thoughts on that?
thanks
Hi,
I toggled the driving mode on and off again and that seems to have go the delay down to around 2 seconds which is a massive improvement, although still not ideal I don't think. What I don't understand however is that the driving mode wasn't on in the first place so why did this make a difference?
Does anyone know what driving mode actually does?
Thanks,
hopoffbaby
OKay, so this is my first android phone, coming from an Iphone 4 and let me tell you im about 80% disappointed.
Here are some problems im having, im hoping that you can help me turn that 80 into a 20.
1. Apps just randomly run in the background: I'll close all but my live background, my task manager and my alarm clock and go to sleep. When I wake up almost EVERY SINGLE app I have is running in the background. Why? How do I stop this, the Iphone never did this, I feel this is a hard fail on androids part.
2. Many apps force close while im trying to use them: Ive tried stock rom, and serenity 8, same apps same issues. Its becoming a turn off to use the phone for any apps.
3. Multitasking: Is there any? MOST of the time when I switch apps and "multitask" its just like having the app open at the start page, I dont have to reload the app but its not where I last left it like the Iphone. Even on web pages I find if I switch out of the web and go to another app if I return to the web im back at my home page and I have to go to my history just to get back where I was. Is there a way for me to fix this?
4: Ram usage: when I turn my phone off, then on I see 150 in the used ram. This number raises even with out opening any apps. I kill all apps and close all running programs I see nothing running except services and it raises as high as 600 mb with 0 apps open and nothing running except a live background and the task manager. My iphone never had a memory leak, how do I fix this? 600 mb to do nothing is a bit excessive.
As a software developer im really confused as how Google tricked everyone that android was good. Perhaps Im just uninformed and that is why I am here. I am wondering why there would be all these problems right out of the box on an item that is what 4th 5th generation? These are problems that shouldnt be as frequent in 1st and 2nd generations. Any help would be wonderful thank you.
1. this question has been asked a million times. In short, the Android OS handles memory much different than you'd expect. An app will appear as running after you close it but it may not be. Android just keeps that memory allocated to that app in case you need to use it again. But if the OS needs that memory for something else, it will release it from that app and use it for something else.
2. what apps FC on you?
3. i'll leave this for someone else to explain because I dont use the browser much so I dont have much experience with that.
4. this goes along with my answer for #1. Android OS likes to have its memory allocated but it doesnt mean those apps are running.
I might be a little off on my explanation so I'll leave it to the experts to clarify but i'm pretty sure i'm fairly accurate.
1/4 - Not deficiencies, Android is designed that way. If an app is resident in memory, it is more readily accessible. Some badly written apps DO more than just sit there in the task list - but most are OK. Sitting in memory is not bad - holding a wakelock or showing up in your battery usage is.
2 - No clue - not having this problem here. I haven't seen an FC in a few weeks, and the last one was my own fault. What apps?
3) This depends on the app. However, usually the browser returns to wherever I last was when I use it. In fact I wish it were easier to "go home"...
3) Matter of using the right button. Close the app with the home button, and restart it where it left off. Back out of the app with the back button, and start over.
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
i really dont know what to tell you about the FC's because none of those FC on me ... whether I was stock or not. That just doesnt sound right. If you're stock, it shouldn't be FC'ing at all. I can understand if you're rooted and running S8 or some other ROM. Maybe something happened during the flash but stock should be fine.
I'm also trying out the browser on my phone and if I load a random website, go home, open another app and go back to the browser, its still on the last page I viewed.
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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If you're swithing from app to app, and want to do it more quickly, hold the home button for a few seconds (pretty much anywhere, no need to go 'home' first). It will open up a list of the last 6 apps you've used. Pretty sure from the point you left off.
holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
Chase
email
Gmail
maps
market
netflix
web
I'm running Serendipity 8.1 and do not have any problems with these apps from your list. You may need to re-flash.
Edit: what Entropy said.
DKS1282 said:
holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
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any of them are good but I personally use UnNamed. You really should wipe your phone first. Thats probably why you have so many FC's. When you flash a new rom, make sure you do NOT restore system apps via Titanium Backup (if thats what you use).
Entropy512 said:
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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i think thats exactly what happened because having that many FC's is not normal .
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
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Lot of user error here. I'm on the stock ROM with root.
Switch apps quickly by holding home.
If you use the back button to exit an app then you truly are exiting the app. Use home if you want it to start running.
Don't worry about ram usage. This device has 1GB and Android manages it very well without you ever having to worry.
I never have force closes unless it's the developers issue. If you're running from backed up apps then you can expect to have FCs. Install from fresh if you try a new ROM.
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I think the main reason the op is having his browser reset most of the time is because the op is using some kind if task killer. This task killer is also probably the cause of a significant portion of the fc's being experienced.
There should be a forum rule against people who run task killers then complain about fc's, laggy apps, and problems with multitasking.
I mean it should be obvious running a "task killer" on a device designed specifically to multitask - it is so silly. Look at the two phrases side by side "task killer" "multitasking device" - can you see what I mean.
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dayv said:
To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
Just because you don't know how to use a device does not make the device a general fail. Let's put the blame where it belongs, on the guy who has no understanding on what is going on with the processes in the device and drawing conclusions on based on an obviously ignorant perception those observations.
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I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Not that I know of. There are little tricks like that and a good majority of people would never know of them I'm afraid.
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jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Samsung has a tips and tricks page specifically for the AT&T GS2 that may show you some things you didn't know. One thing I didn't know was that you can take a screenshot with stock by pressing the power button and the home button at the same time. I also didn't know you can access the clipboard to show everything you "copied" from text fields.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-galaxy-s-ii-at-t-
As far as the OP's issues, I have all of those apps except for chase and hootsuite installed on stock and I don't FC at all. For the browser concerns, you may just be opening a new window each time you run the browser from the app icon. Try zooming all the way out of the page and then pinch to zoom out once more and it will show you the windows you have open, or you can press the menu key and select windows. The icon for "windows" in the menu will have a number on it if you have more than one open.
Entropy512 said:
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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Number 1... I didnt do that. I didnt think I had to off of a stock rom, but your right, I should have.
Thread cleaned... Please do not make me have to do so again. This forum is for friendly discussion.. Lets keep it that way.
edit --- I see Devine madcat is pushing back to topic
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Hi u all !
I am one of those that couldn't play any game more than 2 minutes without a crash...
As a last try after months... and before considering a hard reset... I tried something that seems to resolve all my crash problems !
What I did:
- Remove ASUS Task manager widget from launcher
- Remove my normal IMAP mail account
- Remove my work exchange account (Calendar, contacts....)
- Removed Battery Monitor Widget
- Removed System Tuner Pro
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets)
Result (after a reboot):
No crashes at all ! and IU seems way faster (good improvement but not enough for a quad core in my opinion... the IU should fly.... even in economic mode...)
I don't know what of those 3 things did the trick (maybe a mix of them)... anyway no more crashes for me...
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Anyway.... after so many months.... and no way to just be able to use my tablet as it should.... come on ASUS....
Please feedback !
See U !
good observation. ill try one by one. ill start with task manager widget first. don't want to remove my email accounts or my system tuner pro. I have system tuner pro set up to eliminate alot of apps from starting up on boot.
Perfect... Let us know what u find.
I have to say that for my is a complete success !! I am trying one by one all my games (I am even not closing them... just pressing home button) all are working.... no reboot needed.... no crash at all (for now).
I am really happy !
Since I have been playing with the settings in the developer section right from the start and I never experienced any crashes I can not give you any feedback on your finding.
But while using my HTC Tegraphone I discovered what is described in that thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214.
Maybe you check it out and find something that helps you, otherwise I hope you get your crashy Asus resolved soon and someone else can give you additional information.
Good luck
For me, the only crashes i got was due to playing some games while on powersaving mode. The autocontrast or autobrightness (not sure which) that tegra3 forces while on powersaving mode conflicts with a few games.
The screen starts flashing (and the game freezes), and even if you quit the game and re-start, it'll simply crash (force close). You need a reboot.
Istarth said:
Hi u all
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those 3 things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Please feedback !
See U !
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Congratulations....I agree with you. I would be nice if people would try to solve issues themselves before "angrily" blaming ASUS. If they did that, we'd have a much cleaner, more useful forum.
Bob
Istarth said:
Hi u all !
I am one of those that couldn't play any game more than 2 minutes without a crash...
As a last try after months... and before considering a hard reset... I tried something that seems to resolve all my crash problems !
What I did:
- Remove ASUS Task manager widget from launcher
- Remove my normal IMAP mail account
- Remove my work exchange account (Calendar, contacts....)
- Removed Battery Monitor Widget
- Removed System Tuner Pro
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets)
Result (after a reboot):
No crashes at all ! and IU seems way faster (good improvement but not enough for a quad core in my opinion... the IU should fly.... even in economic mode...)
I don't know what of those 3 things did the trick (maybe a mix of them)... anyway no more crashes for me...
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Anyway.... after so many months.... and no way to just be able to use my tablet as it should.... come on ASUS....
Please feedback !
See U !
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1. I'm running mostly stock since I bought the device. Yes, not even rooted. Not using any widget either.... And only using 1 page out of 5. Simply using GMAIL app as well with none being sync. Oh, and I manually update all of my apps from Play Store as well...
Since launch, I have installed exactly... 14 apps. Out of those 14, only 3 were added since .21 f/w update (they happen to be games... Dark Meadow, Sonic, Mass Effect). Out of those 14 apps, only 10 are still installed in my tablet (had to delete Google Chrome to increase browser performance).
I rarely play game on my tablet but this is an issue I recently found out as I wanted to play Sonic. Anyways, with this intro out of the way....
Based on my history, when it comes to gaming issue.... I mostly have problems on Tegra 3 optimized games. Games such as Shadowgun, Sonic, Riptide, Dark Meadow........ I actually haven't had any crash/reboot issue while playing Mass Effect.. yet. However, this is only "one" non-tegra 3 graphic intensive non-tegra 3 optimized games. So, it isn't enough of a "data" for me to say.... "hmm, maybe it is just tegra 3 games" yet.
Would be nice if people with no crashes at all could show us this kind of use feedback:
- Using ASUS Task manager widget in launcher --> YES / NO
- Using normal IMAP mail account --> YES / NO
- Using exchange account (Calendar, contacts....) --> YES / NO
- Using Battery Monitor Widget --> YES / NO
- Using System Tuner Pro --> YES / NO
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets) --> How many pages are full for u ?? all ??...
People with crashes could also report the same... and of course please try to do the same and let us know if It fix crashes !
TY for all the feedback !
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1. I'm running mostly stock since I bought the device. Yes, not even rooted. Not using any widget either.... And only using 1 page out of 5. Simply using GMAIL app as well with none being sync. Oh, and I manually update all of my apps from Play Store as well...
Since launch, I have installed exactly... 14 apps. Out of those 14, only 3 were added since .21 f/w update (they happen to be games... Dark Meadow, Sonic, Mass Effect). Out of those 14 apps, only 10 are still installed in my tablet (had to delete Google Chrome to increase browser performance).
I rarely play game on my tablet but this is an issue I recently found out as I wanted to play Sonic. Anyways, with this intro out of the way....
Based on my history, when it comes to gaming issue.... I mostly have problems on Tegra 3 optimized games. Games such as Shadowgun, Sonic, Riptide, Dark Meadow........ I actually haven't had any crash/reboot issue while playing Mass Effect.. yet. However, this is only "one" non-tegra 3 graphic intensive non-tegra 3 optimized games. So, it isn't enough of a "data" for me to say.... "hmm, maybe it is just tegra 3 games" yet.
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TY for the info !
This "solution" is to fix a little different problem. Is for people like me with crashes in ALL games randomly. ALL !
Of course we could find some games with real problems with prime. At this moment I have no crashes in any game ! Raptide, Sonic, Mass Effect, Dead Space, Dark Meadow, Gof 2, Shadowgun THD......
TY again !
The bottom line is a rewrite is in order to free up the bottlenecks in the T3. Something its very wrong when benches are awesome and real life performance is just so so.
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Task killers could easily cause a system crash...
I don't have crashes, but do see Widgets take a long time to refresh occasionally.
ilostmypistons said:
The bottom line is a rewrite is in order to free up the bottlenecks in the T3. Something its very wrong when benches are awesome and real life performance is just so so.
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the bottom line is not a blanket fix but rather a "if you have this, then do (or do not do) this." Sorry if you do not agree but my prime works great and yours "just so so" points to you using a software combination that proves unworkable.
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tshoulihane said:
Task killers could easily cause a system crash...
I don't have crashes, but do see Widgets take a long time to refresh occasionally.
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as on every android rom i have ever run i agree widgets are the devil.
Mine is like that already, and I still get crashes with many apps and games.
Pretty much anything that uses a bit more memory and graphics.
Update: Even Market is crashing now... rebooted last night, did not use tablet at all till checking Market just now.
Sorry if this doesn't help for my is working incredible good !
Maybe the reason is a combination of SW... (for me was something of those things).
Anyway It is sad that after a lot of months ROMs are not stable enough... even stock one...
UI is also slow... at least slow considering we are speaking about a high end tablet.
Anyway I am happy... now and after various months... I can use my tablet !
leppie said:
Mine is like that already, and I still get crashes with many apps and games.
Pretty much anything that uses a bit more memory and graphics.
Update: Even Market is crashing now... rebooted last night, did not use tablet at all till checking Market just now.
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Sounds like it's definitely a software issue, try going into settings/apps and clearing market data.
A lot of these sound like typical Android problems that any Android device sees along its lifespan.
OP, this thread was a great idea. I haven't had any crashes but I'm not a big gamer. I would be glad to use your example thread and do trial and error to see what useful data I can contribute to your thread.
Is this only for stock roms, or are custom roms allowed?
well removing the task manager didn't resolve games crashes. I went back to .21(I was previously on new firmware test build) to test this theory out. I'm not going to remove my email accounts. I really love the Asus battery widget but, I will remove it to try out also.
Removing task manager did seem to make things more stable aside from games though. I don't get that stupid message anymore saying task manager has stopped. plus I'm not busy killing stuff on the task manager that pops up. Actually ICS handles the memory manage very well. seems like I have more memory left vs. before when I had task manager up. ill just let android handle the tasks, which it seems to do a great job of.
ill remove battery widget now and see if that helps the gaming issue.
I WILL NOT REMOVE SYSTEM TUNER PRO THOUGH. lol. that app is too valuable and useful. I know that's not the reason. games crashed before I even got it.
All those widgets....
Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
I have no idea of the hell you people are talking about,
First of all I on stock and not rooted, second I run all that stock crap(widgets, managers) + I have over 150 apps installed acording to the play store and I never had a crash unless it was the apps foult. From time to time when I check the memory usage with system panel it gets quite full, but I always seem to have atleast 100-200mb free ram left.I somehow don't play games much, but for example GTA runs like a charm for me. The only way I can make something crash is when I start switching apps like crazy(GTA,Skype,Chrome,Skype,Gta,Teamviewer ect.)
But talking off topic, is there anyway to say repair the glass? I have a nasty scrach on it that I just cant get my eyes off when the screen is off
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Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
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My prime is not unlocked... I am speaking about ASUS ROMS.
I know there are many people with no problems but at the same time there are many people with problems... Now I am happy because for any reason my ROM is stable... But.... What a nightmare till this moment.... I was getting crashes with ICS all of the time since the first day (prime release in Spain)...
I don't use GPS, Wifi cannot be improved...so I just don't think about it... And I have no browser problems since I use dolphin (the best !) So... The only thing I miss now is a fluid launcher....I am just using 3 pages for widgets, and ui is so slow (more knowing this is a quad core...)... My Sensation moves ui far better... And a are speaking about a sense launcher !
TY all four the info.
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TechSavvy2 said:
Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
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Sorry to hear that... Seems each user (with problems) will need to discover it's own solution.
TY
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I have been running CyanogenMod 10 Alpha 2 by dragonzkiller for a couple of days now and can say...my phone has never been better! As is expected there were some hiccups, but overall this thing rides smooth! What does everyone else think about it and what has been their experiences?
Here is what I've found so far
Not working:
Facebook
Dolphin Browser
SMS does not show text in field, and notifications do not show.
My workarounds:
Opera browser has so far worked flawlessly.
Friendcaster works fine in place of FB.
Combination of Handcent SMS and SMS popups as workaround to native SMS issue.
Weird things yet to be worked out or around:
File explorers (so far ES and File Expert) randomly will not delete or rename files.
And again, this ROM is great (thank you dragonzkiller!). Too bad providers didn't push for Jelly Bean on these models because I think it works the best so far. Older in the cycle, so I understand. I still have about of week of testing before I praise it any further, but so far I am mega happy. I can say this having tried various other ROMS throughout the year or so I've owned this phone, and of those I am coming from what I consider a rock stable ROM, Liberty3.
Introduction:
I have been using CM10 for a month and a half now. My review is based on the standard of an every day driver. I understand that Dragonzkiller is the only developer for this ROM and basically for DX2 (as far as I know) but I use my phone with the intention of USING it. With this in mind, I've been struggling with the idea of reverting back to the stock OS or some other rom because of some key issues I have with the current alpha release.
Pros:
Status Bar brightness control: Although you have to disable auto brightness, this is the biggest plus for me, mainly because auto brightness never seems to be good enough. Its always slighty too dim or too bright, even with custom brightness levels. The negative of this would be that if you have a passworded lock screen (swype lock screens don't affect this) the status bar is not click able so you can't increase brightness. This is a big issue if your screen is on the lowest brightness and you need to unlock your phone in the sun. This is mostly for taste. I find this feature highly convenient and puts control in my hands. Although automatic brightness works, it doesn't work well enough for me.
Toggle buttons in the notification pull down menu: This is insanely convenient. This coupled with the long pressing option to open the corresponding settings menu is also one of the biggest things keeping me with CM 10
Swypable notifications: You have no idea how convenient this is until you have it. To be able to pick and chose which notifications to dismiss with the swype of a finger.
Screen Shot and restart option in the power menu: I restart and screen shot enough that these options need to be in the power menu or somehow accessible
Everything else ICS and CM10 provides: I really dislike how Ginger Bread looks. It just doesn't have the nice clean feel. CM10 gets it right with the minimalistic look and design while adding features hidden where they should be hidden. Honestly, this is a HUGE plus. I really like the way CM10 looks and feels over almost every other ROM. I haven't found one that I've liked more than CM10.
Cons:
Most apps that use some form of a web view crash: A web view is a little window that renders webpages for you. Apps like Facebook use to use this and they crashed all the time. Exceptions include the stock web browser and most other web browsers. The reason for this crash is that there is a fatal Out Of Memory exception.
Google Now takes way longer to load: Yes, I already said that apps take a while to load but Google Now seems to take 5 seconds MINIMUM up to 10 seconds. I don't know why. I tried disabling the "Say Google to search" feature as well as the cards and that seems to have cut down on the load time but if Google Now is something you really want/need, this is a huge drawback.
Apps take a long time to load: Long is a subjective term so I'm defining it as between 1 second to just initialize to 3-5 seconds on a bad day. I am very sure this is because our phone has very little ram so the OS has to free some space for the new app and this is an intensive process that take that much time. At first, I pushed this off as some issue that doesn't really need attention but when you are trying to add a contact and it takes 5 seconds to load the Phone app, then another five seconds to load the People app, you're going to start being annoyed. Want to take a picture of your contact, add another 5 seconds to load the camera app.
The flashlight button in the notification pull down will crash: It will crash. You tap the button and it crashes. You long press and it crashes. Don't even bother. That's a big enough con for me to give it a mention and put it in the middle of my list. There have been a few times when I've needed a flashlight only to realize I need to actually open an app for it. I think the next best thing is to put the flashlight app in the swype to unlock menu.
Media Player stutters under load: Remember how I told you that app loading is an intensive process? Apparently, the thread priority for the media player process is lower than the app loading process. I say this based on the fact that as I play music from Pandora, if I press back, switch apps, or open a new app, the music from Pandora starts cutting and stuttering almost like a buffer, but not quite. I have not tried this with other music players but I have done it with another youtube player and I get the same problems. I haven't tried this with Google Music though so you may have some luck with that.
System Crashes: Rarely will my phone reboot on me for some strange reason. It has happened to me maybe 5 times in the last month and a half but it has happened. I don't really consider this a con just because it's so rare but it happens.
Google Maps Street View Crashes all the time: I believe this is related to the problem with Google Chrome. I remember reading that our kernel doesn't support certain drawing textures or drawing APIs so any app that tries to use those methods force close without warning.
Here are the apps I run and why:
Facebook Bookmark: I have a bookmark to facebook.com instead of using the facebook app mainly because the app USED to crash very frequently in the alpha one release (it used to use webviews instead of native code). I haven't noticed it crashing on me recently so I may switch back to using the stock Facebook App.
Go SMS: Simply because I like the look and feel of Go SMS better. It's really your choice on this one. I also like the popup notification when I receive messages that Go SMS provides over the one that the stock Messaging app provides.
K9-Mail: The stock E-Mail app crashed very frequently on me in the alpha one release. I could never figure this one out because it would crash even without the web views open. It may be fixed now but I've gotten used to K9-Mail
Stock Browser: Most other browsers clutter the screen (like Opera). I don't run firefox because I tried the beta release and it was very lacking. Google Chrome crashes all the time because of the kernel issue. I really enjoy using the stock browser with the "Quick Control" feature enabled under "Labs" in the stock Browser app. It cleans up the screen really well.
aCalendar: The widget is better. Plain and simple. I use day view for the widget. I use the widget on it's own home screen.
gTasks: Just something to use. I mostly use the widget on it's own home screen full sized
Conclusion:
Although I cannot recommend this ROM as an every day driver, I have to say that it does provide some serious features with some serious drawbacks. It is really up to you in my opinion because even I cannot decide whether it is a good or a bad ROM. The reason why I would flash a ROM is because I want to increase usability and to clean up my cluttered OS. However, minimalistic ROMs don't provide the features that CM10 provide. Those features definitely come in handy at times. Moreover, I like the CM10 lock screen way more but that's just taste. The reason why I haven't discarded CM10 already is because I can probably live with the longer load times for apps and the spontaneous crashes. The crashes are either rare enough to not bother me or predictable enough that I can avoid them.
My recommendation would be to try it out and see if you can live with it. If you can live with it, then you should definitely run it because it is by far the best app around. This is a good rom but not good enough for a solid recommendation. However, it is amazing it is still only on Alpha 2 considering how well it works for an alpha.
By the way, if you're coming form CM7/9, definitely jump to CM10. The decrease in force closes is worth the increase in app load time.
randomKID thanks for the awesome breakdown of the pros and cons you've found in this ROM. You still using it?
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It's been 5 days and it's holding quite well except my batteries drain 3 to 4 times as faster. I don't use 3G so it's disabled throughout the day. I'm coming from Gingerbread 4.3.3.
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OxyX said:
It's been 5 days and it's holding quite well except my batteries drain 3 to 4 times as faster. I don't use 3G so it's disabled throughout the day. I'm coming from Gingerbread 4.3.3.
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Gingerbread 4.3.3?
Well I do love CM10. I was getting some great battery life out of it. Wonder if everyone was/is that uses or used it? I had workarounds for just about every bug but one- the camcorder. I had to have a good working camcorder and the Videocam Illusion app was not reliable enough. Why so necessary? A 6 month old little girl that daddy loves to capture every day So I went to Eclipse but was not at all impressed with the battery usage (ROM was fine otherwise). I have now landed back on CM7 which I test drove some months ago. I will go back to CM10 provided there is an update that speaks to the camcorder issue. If not, I will hang out here for awhile most likely :silly:
You should try Eclipse 1.3 as I net 1.5-2 days of light use (phone calls / sms / fb) and it's blazing fast. I just put 2.3 on a few days ago and it's a very solid ROM but the speed isn't like 1.3 thou
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You should try Eclipse 1.3 as I net 1.5-2 days of light use (phone calls / sms / fb) and it's blazing fast. I just put 2.3 on a few days ago and it's a very solid ROM but the speed isn't like 1.3 thou
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I think I'll give that a try
I have serious battery issues running CM10. My battery NEVER lasts a full day on light/moderate use. When I was on CM7, I used to get a day and a half out of moderate use, so I'm a bit upset at that. I still prefer it to CM7 though, mostly because of the layout and the fact that my WiFi doesn't constantly lose connection. But the constantly-crashing apps and battery life have me ready to move on from the phone altogether. :/
Google Nexus 4, I'm on my way...