Thank you Mskip for adding this new sub forum for the HD2, and for taking the time to move and sort out all the Q/A posts from the Themes and apps thread.
It will be OH SO NICE to see a clean themes forum.
Cheers
Wolfee
OMG! I posted this in the themes and apps forum fist by mistake.
erm confused why couldn't these just be moved to the general section seen as its full of crap anyway ?
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erm confused why couldn't these just be moved to the general section seen as its full of crap anyway ?
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I agree! Generally I don't fancy the Q&A sub forums. I think that a question should be posted in the same thread as the related subjects, or in a new thread in one of the sub forums that encompasses the subject.
If I have a question regarding a specific ROM, should i post it in Q&A or in the ROM thread?
If I have a question regarding, say a car holder, should the question go in the Q&A or the accessories sub forum?
What distinguishes General from Q&A?
I don't really see a purpose to this subforum as the questions asked pretty much can be categorized under the general subforum...
I was having a look through just now and i figured out what this board is for but it may require it be renamed. The board seems to be filled with questions already asked atleast 10 times (if not 100) before. So we could rename this board the "I can't be bothered to google anything unless it's porn. Please, please hurt and embarrass me" board and then we would have a place for the senior members to vent their frustrations at the people that cause them.
The only rule would be the OP's have no right of reply unless they really can show respect, willingness and gratitude. In fact i think all new members should be locked into only being able to post to this new board and only allowed to make one new post a day. Every attempt to post after that would present them with a search box and the words "Use this Dumbass"
Hmm seems i got a little carried away there but TBH it's a nice idea considering it started out as a joke and i rambled on it a little bit.
Hi,
I would like to propose the creation of a central reference thread for each sub-forum within the X10mini/pro fora.
They would contain rules, how to search, basics, FAQs, links to rooting, tutorials/guides, mods, themes, apps,... with respect to the respective sub-forum.
To get an idea check e.g. Hero CDMA Android Dev.
This will hopefully
-help organizing the fora more clearly
-prevent the same questions coming up all over again
-provide a useful pool of up-to-date information for both new and experienced users
-reduce everyone's need to search for fundamental things
-negate the need to otherwise sticky so many threads that the fora are just becoming unclear and clogged
You would be responsible to propose threads kept for future reference.
Opinions pls.
Thx and Best, DK
i think we have a thread like the CDMA thread made by dettofatto. the only thing is that we have multiple threads on same topic which could be deleted
just checked them briefly and yes, very good and helpful, not stickied though
so referencing them would be a must but imo wouldn't contradict my proposal about the central thread...
still, that's just me and its about you...will therefore patiently wait for further comments on this
Ed. I can add a poll if you think that's more helpful/faster
Sounds good.. and while we are at it.. get people to stick to the threads.. put all Themes in the Themes and Apps thread (not in Development) keep DEV stuff in the Dev Thread etc.. perhaps add a Newbie Thread where newbs can ask for help with issues so they don't fill the other threads...
Why are there Themes in the Dev section?
But yes a reorg is needed.
Kiwi
My concern is create two separate forums for x10 mini and x10 mini pro
kiwiBratwurst said:
Sounds good.. and while we are at it.. get people to stick to the threads.. put all Themes in the Themes and Apps thread (not in Development) keep DEV stuff in the Dev Thread etc.. perhaps add a Newbie Thread where newbs can ask for help with issues so they don't fill the other threads...
Why are there Themes in the Dev section?
But yes a reorg is needed.
Kiwi
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unfortunately happens regularly, excuses are manyfold and it would be naive to think this project will prevent it
still should be well worth the effort
cleanup and heavy thread shifting will be done anyway, already started but due to time restriction only on the dev fora...but will be continued
Naren Raj said:
My concern is create two separate forums for x10 mini and x10 mini pro
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I assume you mean for all subfora and not only for dev?
are accessories, t&a and so on so different that one cannot be used for/is incompatible to the other device?
then I would talk to admin, so pls enlighten me
I think that is fine and useful to put all important sw,updates and guides in same thread and link discussions only to this thread, of course then each sw has own discussions for help and experiences.
I would like a forum reorg
i also think that there are too many simillar threads, some that are just questions and are very missleading sometimes, also in the wrong place, maybe a structure like
*general
--tutorials/findings/configs/etc
--questions
*developement
--e10i/u20i
---->findings/breakthroughs/tutorials
---->questions
--e10i specific
---->findings/breakthroughs/tutorials
---->questions
--u20i specific
---->findings/breakthroughs/tutorials
---->questions
*themes
--method tutorials
--themes postings
--questions
*requests
or something like that because a reorganization is in need
also i think that there should be a section for both mini and pro because they may be different in hardware, but many methods, apps and ideas frome one work on the other and i feel that sometimes we miss out on developement from one or the other
hi
thx all for the contribution, I waited some time hoping additional ones might be posted, but maybe all are happy with the current suggestions...or waiting for my response...
lets comment:
all devices get as default the layout
xx General
xx Development
xx Accessories
xx Themes & Apps
device specific we have the known two dev fora, one for e10i and one for u20i and I don't think I can convince admin to create another one for shared development
not that I don't see the potential advantage, but I assume "misuse" would dominate so I'm fine as it is
still I also considered it wise to provide a place to collect development results of any kind usable on both devices
so alternately you have to specify dual usage in the thread title and we can also create an additional thread with references on that
reaching certain criteria a separate Q&A can be added, which I personally like very much and will address to admin immediately when a fore mentioned criteria are fulfilled
so as mentioned we are bound to the general forum layout, but what we might achieve could be like this:
*general
---->tutorials/findings/configuration/requests/FAQs/troubleshooting/references/how to/etc
---->e.g. separate thread like "newbies questions here"
---->OT chat thread if you like
*accessories
---->all accessories (batteries, cases, screen protection,...)
*development
--e10i specific
---->development (non app, non theme)/findings/breakthroughs/tutorials/roms/guides/modifications
---->reference thread for everything proven working/usable on both devices
--u20i specific
---->development (non app, non theme)/findings/breakthroughs/tutorials/roms/guides/modifications
*themes and apps
---->method tutorials/themes postings/applications posting/screen shots/miscellaneous (like splash screens,...)
*questions&answers (hopefully soon)
---->for all the rest (when available)
not stating this is finalized but it should give a good idea
comments pls
Cheers, DK
Reorganize! Hellyah!
Reorganize! Hellyah!
I intend to start this weekend, because I won't find the time before, but it's scheduled...
sounds really good!
maybe creating at the theme section a difference for mini and pro, or does the most of them on both models?
I would like to see a Q&A section. It would be nothing but beneficial as a place for people to ask questions without cluttering the general thread.
option94 said:
I would like to see a Q&A section. It would be nothing but beneficial as a place for people to ask questions without cluttering the general thread.
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I already requested it, it will be available as soon as site admin finds the time
I figured that, just throwing my .02 cents out there.
forum is good!but sometimes slows...
kobzarcheg said:
forum is good!but sometimes slows...
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care to elaborate on that?
it is nice...
we will have a new org?
PTGamer said:
we will have a new org?
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there already is as proposed in #1
pls explain in detail what you mean
Hi Folks!
My name's Justin, I'm your newly-appointed Forum Mod for the HTC Rose. It's a pleasure to be here, and I'm happy to assist you in getting the most from this Forum.
Just a few things to keep in mind:
Please have a quick look at the Forum Rules whenever you get a chance.
Please treat other members how you would like to be treated and please post in the correct sections.
For the Development team to thrive, the development section needs to stay clean and tidy. Please make sure you post in the correct sections, and give us the heads-up if you see anything out-of-place, abusive, condoning warez etc.
Only ROM Development, Hacks, Mods, Fixes, Reference, and Tutorials go in the Dev Section
All Questions and Requests should go in the General Section.
Please no 'for sale' threads in any section. Use the Marketplace.
Also, if you see any thread that is in the wrong section or if you see any questionable posts/content, please don't hesitate to click the report (!) button.
Feel free to message me if you have any questions, comments, or issues pertaining to this forum.
Thanks in advance for your help and most importantly, have fun!
AS I SEE MORE AND MORE WRONG THREAD'S HERE(ITS REALLY ANNOYING; AND BECOMES MORE , SO IF U DONT EVEN READ THE RULES, READ THIS!!!!) I WANTED TO POST THIS:
AvRS said:
Hi,
You may have noticed that you now have a Q&A - Questions and Answers sub-forum. This is now the home to all your burning questions you have about your device. Please no longer post your questions in General or any of the other sub-forums, especially not Development
You may notice threads disappearing from here and that's due to a bit of a cleanup moving recent questions over there where they're now more relevant. Obviously this won't be done for old threads but if you don't see a thread here that you were contributing to then head over there.
Also if you see question threads posted in any other sub-forum then please just use the report button and we (the mod team) will move them over, even if it's your own thread, that's how you can notify us. Remember the report button isn't just for bad things, it helps us help you.
Summary:
If you tick the box under "IS THIS A QUESTION?" in your new thread make sure you're in Q&A
Have you typed [Q] at the start of your title yourself? It should be in Q&A
Does your thread end in a "?" or belong to the who, what, when, where, why, or how group it's more than likely a question so off to Q&A you go
You get the point so please post correctly
Thanks
AvRS
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I HOPE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS! to keep xda clean THX. (thanks also to AvRS)
peace, and have a nice day
bejunk
bejunk said:
AS I SEE MORE AND MORE WRONG THREAD'S HERE(ITS REALLY ANNOYING; AND BECOMES MORE , SO IF U DONT EVEN READ THE RULES, READ THIS!!!!) I WANTED TO POST THIS:
I HOPE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS! to keep xda clean THX. (thanks also to AvRS)
peace, and have a nice day
bejunk
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You are absolutely right!!!
thanks
I would like to direct this to the Moderators or any other higher ups that need to get involved.
This Q&A Bot thing is rediculous.
It is posting in seemingly every device for every rom. Stating to direct all questions in regard to a rom in Q&A sections in order to keep development from getting clogged up.
All its doing is clogging up Q&A.
I thought the concept was, if it is a question within regards to a specific rom, that's what the thread is for?
If it is a device specific question, then it goes to Q&A?
When you click to view Q&A Bot profile, it comes up invalid. Is this a new system generated thing to organize the threads better?
Not working. To me it is just as bad as having an ad pop up.
Honestly, I find myself wanting to come on here less. I come here in attempt to help others if I can. An attempt to return favors that others have done for me. What is the point of Q&A Bot to create a thread it cannot support or will not respond to?
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The Q&A bot only comes into action when a new user tries posting in the development section. As you know, new users can't post in development threads. So the Q&A bot makes a new thread in the Q&A section so the new users post can be read.
I can see where xda thinks this is a way of getting newbies heard and keeping development threads clean. But when you boil it all down it actually creates clutter and disarray. Because after all isn't XDA a development site? Therefore all threads here are considered development threads in my opinion.
In my opinion only recognized developers should be able to post in development threads. All development posts should have links to respective Q&A threads. Leaving development threads clean of everything but the dev's posts. This way the dev can post tweaks, bugs and tips that are easily found without going thru 100's of posts to find solutions. The dev can monitor the Q&A thread and answer questions there. When a valid question arises the dev can answer it in the Q&A thread. Then make an update post in the development thread.
What do you think?
If only people with "RD" status can post in the dev section this device and a lot more others would be pretty boring to own. I agree with @captemo those threads are cluttering the place up and are a bit annoying, plus I thought there was a 10 post count rule that prevented new users to post in the dev section? is that rule no longer in place or something or is it being circumvented in some way? I get the point of those threads in order to help out new users get the advice they seek and all but honestly its seems like a lot of users now a days don't bother to read a few pages of a thread let alone use the search function , and want to be spoon fed. Not trying to be a d-bag or any thing like that but it gets a bit out of hand at times seeing the answer they seek is just usually a few pages back from the last one. OK my ranting is over lol....
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i agree with some of what all you have said...but with that said.
our Q&A section is already a mess. The only one ive ever seen that wasnt is in the epic 4g touch forum, and thats because they had a member create a noob friendly support thread for all questions and roms. And the members,myself included, made sure questions were posted there and not just making a new thread for questions that have been asked and answered. It also allowed the more experienced members to have a place to help that was easy to find and point noobs in the right direction.
if you guys are interested in starting and supporting such a thread. i would look at the e4gt thread for ideas how to set it up...or u can look at the one i made and support in the galaxy tab 10.1 forum. Here is the Link to mine, as i cant seem to get a mod over there to sticky it.
These threads should give you all a nice idea about how a similar thread here would help, if used and a mod stickies it so it is always seen by new members.
as im soon departing this forum for a new device..i will not start such a thread. But will always stop in to help support it.
Have a great day,
Gil81 ( John )