Thoughts on the "phablet" ui being present on the Nexus 10? - Nexus 10 General

Hey guys.
So I'm certainly excited by the new nexus devices, and I defo will be getting a nexus 4 but I'm on the fence about a N10... Mainly because of the fact that its running phablet ui and not the dedicated tablet ui... What do u guys think of it? Do u think Google made a mistake in using it over the normal tab ui?
I certainly think they did :L
Post ur thoughts below.
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Don't care tbh. I'll just change it to the tablet ui using a custom rom anyway. Just like Paranoid rom let's you with the Nexus 7.

There are so many possibilities to work around the phablet ui, it should be ok.
Like on the Nexus 7 you shouldn't have problems
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To me with Google trying to take on many consumer tablets that have just been released, going with the phablet look is just plain idiotic and looks really dumb.
When you have iPad 4, iPad mini, and Windows Surface all looking like incredible options for many people, Google has to step their game up. It is a lot of wasted space in that nav bar and feel that the tablet ui functions really well on a 10inch device.
I know on here a lot will just use a custom ROM but that isn't a viable option for a lot of people to do so. I don't understand the decision and wonder what Matias is doing honestly this past year as there really hasn't been that many changes after coming out strong when he was first hired.

in my opinion they shouldn't have even used it on 7" tablets.
or at least not forced it based on screen size.
and on a 10" device it seems idiotic.
the virtual keys are on an annoying location, and this makes the button bar a huge space waster.
at least in ics and hc it was used for more than just 3 tiny buttons.
I actually tried the tablet UI on my old 4.3" phone for a while and found it to be quite comfortable to use.

legendary1022 said:
To me with Google trying to take on many consumer tablets that have just been released, going with the phablet look is just plain idiotic and looks really dumb.
When you have iPad 4, iPad mini, and Windows Surface all looking like incredible options for many people, Google has to step their game up. It is a lot of wasted space in that nav bar and feel that the tablet ui functions really well on a 10inch device.
I know on here a lot will just use a custom ROM but that isn't a viable option for a lot of people to do so. I don't understand the decision and wonder what Matias is doing honestly this past year as there really hasn't been that many changes after coming out strong when he was first hired.
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The new interface is much more "consumer friendly".

Sweet
Looks alright tbh

I honestly don't mind it. The Nexus 7 really I think is best with the phablet UI while the Nexus 10 could have gone either way. Maybe Google should have included the ability for users to change the UI in stock Android.

the tablet Ui is overratted, the hybrid phablet Ui is much more easier to use. My xoom UI is kinda clunky, as my nexus 7 UI feels right.
notification shade, softkeys in middle, smoother in landscape. im sold

Yeah, they screwed up.
Personally, I prefer the "phablet" UI on the N7, but not the N10. When you hold the device in landscape orientation, you will have to let go with one of your hands every time you want to use the navigation buttons, especially the home button. I like the idea of pulling down the different shades, but I don't like the super tiny clock in the notification bar. They should have eliminated the notification bar, and put everything in the nav bar, just not centered.
My $.02.

It would work if the nav bar were actually vertical in landscape instead of horizontal (think Galaxy Nexus in landscape orientation). Personally, I'm all for UI unification.
Actually, Google really should do that for all their Nexus devices - have the nav bar remain along the shortest edge, and never reposition itself. All that changes is the buttons rotate about their individual axes. Then, you could always hit the buttons with your thumb on the N10, or any other Nexus device, plus there is less wasted space.

I hate it. When I first saw the Xoom I thought it looked absolutely great. I felt that Google gets it. You don't just put a phone UI on bigger screen and it to be the same.. phone and tablet usages are different
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On the Google play website they have a pic of the nexus 10 and it shows it in tablet ui. Right in front of the chrome book. Kinda confusing. https://play.google.com/store?hl=en
Edit: never mind.. here's a hands on review video of n10 with Engadget http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/nexus-10-hands-on-video/

that just looks like a full screen app.

It doesn't look that bad on videos as it does on screenshots but I tried - I really can't reach the place where home button is with my thumb.

Bad decision
malibu_23 said:
the tablet Ui is overratted, the hybrid phablet Ui is much more easier to use. My xoom UI is kinda clunky, as my nexus 7 UI feels right.
notification shade, softkeys in middle, smoother in landscape. im sold
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The waste of vertical space is stupid, especially on small devices as the N7. Also, having the soft buttons in the center in landscape is a poor choice on 10", no-one will be able to reach them without moving one hand.

krenaud said:
The waste of vertical space is stupid, especially on small devices as the N7. Also, having the soft buttons in the center in landscape is a poor choice on 10", no-one will be able to reach them without moving one hand.
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This is probably the one thing I find most annoying about the N10. I understand they're trying to keep it consistent, and it works on the N7 because the way the front-facing camera is, it's meant to be in vertical position a majority of the time. Not so with the N10. I have an OG Transformer running ICS and I like that the three buttons are at the bottom left, and my notifications and clock are bottom right. I hope there is an option to change it.

I quite like phablet UI, I tried tablet UI on my N7 and didn't like it at all. Obviously there's a large difference between the N7 and N10, but I like the phablet/phone UI on bigger tablets too. I never really use my Prime anymore, but when I do I use Go Launcher EX to give it a phone UI feel, I think it's much better than the tablet UI to be honest.
Obviously it'd be good if there was an option to choose between the two, then everyone would be satisfied. Who knows, if the Android community makes enough noise Google might introduce tablet UI through an update like they did homescreen rotation on the N7!
But overall, phablet or tablet UI asside, who could resist it for £310?

Vertron said:
Don't care tbh. I'll just change it to the tablet ui using a custom rom anyway. Just like Paranoid rom let's you with the Nexus 7.
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i seriously think that could be it, the UI may be dead and wont come back.
i say this because they haven't really touched it for years, half of systemUI is stuck on honycomb. we have fixed so many crazy aosp bugs for paranoidandroid, the state of googles tabUI code was piss poor. we rewrote quite some chunks of sysUI, always wondering, what would become of it. the whole thing essentially looked like ready to get thrown out.
the UI still existed, though. they lifted it from 600dp to 720dp, basically putting it out of reach for nexus7 as if hiding it away. the problem i see: nexus10" IS 720dp. if it displays like that it can mean two things: they either went higher, say 800 or even 1000dp, again hiding it. or they killed it - which i believe is more likely.

I love HoneyComb tablet UI - even more than the one in ICS (mostly because it had better animation in the app drawer). I hate that it's not posibble to hide the bottom bar - but since it has a clock, I'm OK with it.
But now on Nexus 10 you don't have the clock on the bottom bar, the buttons are in the place most hard to reach by thumbs and almost 400000 pixels is used by... three buttons. And you can't even hide them when playing games for example.
If it was poorly written maybe they'll rewrite it for Android 5.0 in some way...

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Thunderbolt, why is the UI so LARGE

So currently I have a Droid, Droid 2, Droid X, and Droid Incredible... I have been flipping the coin as to if I go back to the iphone 4 for a bit or get the HTC Thunderbolt since I love the incredible and it by far is the smoothest device compared to the iphone.
Today I went to play with the TB and it was kinda laggy, I even rebooted it and closed up all the crap that was running. I know that with roms this will change, however what concerned me the most was...
The UI is HUGE. We have that large screen and the UI is just jumbo, like it was made big for people with poor eye sight.
What I want to know is if there are any DPI mods like I have on my X that makes everything smaller.
I am not going to buy this phone if with all that screen I have to deal with jumbo UI. I did look thru settings and didn't find anything to adjust this.
I need help fellow members! I can't make my decision of TB vs iPhone 4 without your help!
Once we have root, the dpi will be the first thing I change. I'm used to 209. This phone is awesome, BTW.
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Well basically I have until the 24th to decide. I keep getting stuck on how smooth the iphone always runs. However I am getting there on my incredible and this is faster than that.
I think this is substantially better than the iPhone. You will be happy to own one of the best devices ever made instead of a device that is falling behind.
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I also cannot wait to change the DPI. Hopefully custom ROMs will automatically have this set to something more reasonable!
launcher pro
set to 5 rows and adjust app drawer size and its perfect
set web browser to far
not laggy.. believe me i had almost all the phones lol the tb its a fast device...
might have been because it was a display phone. I have the incredible now with CM 7 on it and it is as smooth as i have seen a droid to date.
I know about the launcher pro thing, but that doesnt change the rest of the UI.
I like to have everything small, so I can use up all that awesome screen.
I just don't know if this is worth while to hop from the droid x/incredible to...
esp no 4g in my area.
Ckamc said:
launcher pro
set to 5 rows and adjust app drawer size and its perfect
set web browser to far
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Yeah. Launcher pro is Faster than stock Launcher (IMO) and Lets you customize how many rows and columns you want. Ima just Use LP and Beautiful widgets like I always have. Im not to big of a fan of Sense, although im Curious to what the new Sense has to offer. Cant wait until My TBolt Arrives (ordered online)
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Yeah. Launcher pro is Faster than stock Launcher (IMO) and Lets you customize how many rows and columns you want. Ima just Use LP and Beautiful widgets like I always have. Im not to big of a fan of Sense, although im Curious to what the new Sense has to offer. Cant wait until My TBolt Arrives (ordered online)
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I had the sense from the Z and it wasn't much better. It's better than moto blur, but I still think its crowding.
I need this DPI thing to happen or else I may be tempted to go back to iphone 4
Haven't had a chance to play around with, but heard really good things from my VZW Rep. I get my hands on one tomorrow, so we will see what I think.
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[Q] Need Help Galaxy s3 vs Nexus 4

I m planning to buy galaxy s3 i 9305 or i9300 or nexus 4 but i am really confused.please help me. i have heard that almost everyone that owns a nexus has a yellow tint or yellow patch problems.are there any who got rid of it and moreover nexus has a battery life disaster and supports otg only with power.on the other hand s3 has less configuration,less custom roms and mods but is better with battery and screen issues.
Now the price is almost same for both the devices.
keeping the current issues and solutions in mind,please reply as i have to purchase one soon.
Regards
=_= get an iphone. problem solved
You need LTE. Go for the Samsung.
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reaperzero said:
=_= get an iphone. problem solved
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Why did you sign up on this forum???
Anyways, there is no comparison. I9300 all da way!
Nexus 4 = less performance, but better initial configuration.
S3 = more performance and screen space, but awful initial configuration (gotta have the balls to tweak it yourself!)
and s3 has got TONS of roms, tons of customization features, and overall better ui (except for some launcher stuff..touchwiz isnt great but its got stuff nexus doesnt, like cool notification area...).
Plus its got better camera and sd card slot.
So no comparison amongst nexus 4 and s3...
About the i9300 and i9305(or something like that)... i9300 is international and i9305 im assuming usa.
First off, many people have said 2 gigs ram is better than quad core..but not so much, plus you can always expand ram (some shops do that).
Plus you get more rom compatibility with i9300 and its what most users actually use, many developers arent from usa...
Therefore i would go, excuse me, HAVE gone, for the galaxy s3 i9300.
I feel like a boss with this phone, still using stock but as soon as i get my hands on custom foxhound (tons of features, overall best for s3) its gonna be even swifter than nexus 4's rom.
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killbubble said:
Anyways, there is no comparison. I9300 all da way!
Nexus 4 = less performance, but better initial configuration.
S3 = more performance and screen space, but awful initial configuration (gotta have the balls to tweak it yourself!)
and s3 has got TONS of roms, tons of customization features, and overall better ui (except for some launcher stuff..touchwiz isnt great but its got stuff nexus doesnt, like cool notification area...).
Plus its got better camera and sd card slot.
So no comparison amongst nexus 4 and s3...
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I'm going to have to say that that's a complete load of bull. The Nexus 4 has better performance than the S4 any day and that's a fact. Not only do benchmarks prove that the S4 Pro is far superior to the Exynos in the international GS3, but I have both devices (GS3 running stock 4.1) and the difference is VERY noticeable. Compared to the N4 I see loads of frame drops on the GS3 and opening apps is slower. The screen space issue can easily be solved with root access (if you're allowed to talk about sorting out TouchWiz with a custom ROM then I think I can talk about sorting out one tiny issue with root ) and aside from that the N4's software is near perfect. TouchWiz has a few mediocre and gimmicky but ultimately useless features, but that doesn't make up for how ugly it is everywhere. Combined with the awful oversaturation of Super Amoled TouchWiz is indescribably ugly when compared to AOSP or even Sense. As for your next point, the GS3 has tonnes of ROMs and stuff but the N4 will always be the king in development because it's a nexus.
Sure, the GS3 has an SD slot and better camera but are they really needed? In my personal opinion 16GB is more than enough and I rarely use my camera anyway, so no. You haven't mentioned the cons of the GS3 at all though. It's going to be late with software updates (and even when it gets them it'll have TouchWiz on top), the Amoled display is awfully oversaturated, the design is inferior to the N4 and the plastic feels very cheap.
I actually love the GS3 but I don't think you should give incorrect and biased advice. Both devices have their pros and cons and it's entirely a matter of opinion as to what the OP chooses.
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Nigeldg said:
I'm going to have to say that that's a complete load of bull. The Nexus 4 has better performance than the S4 any day and that's a fact. Not only do benchmarks prove that the S4 Pro is far superior to the Exynos in the international GS3, but I have both devices (GS3 running stock 4.1) and the difference is VERY noticeable. Compared to the N4 I see loads of frame drops on the GS3 and opening apps is slower. The screen space issue can easily be solved with root access (if you're allowed to talk about sorting out TouchWiz with a custom ROM then I think I can talk about sorting out one tiny issue with root ) and aside from that the N4's software is near perfect. TouchWiz has a few mediocre and gimmicky but ultimately useless features, but that doesn't make up for how ugly it is everywhere. Combined with the awful oversaturation of Super Amoled TouchWiz is indescribably ugly when compared to AOSP or even Sense. As for your next point, the GS3 has tonnes of ROMs and stuff but the N4 will always be the king in development because it's a nexus.
Sure, the GS3 has an SD slot and better camera but are they really needed? In my personal opinion 16GB is more than enough and I rarely use my camera anyway, so no. You haven't mentioned the cons of the GS3 at all though. It's going to be late with software updates (and even when it gets them it'll have TouchWiz on top), the Amoled display is awfully oversaturated, the design is inferior to the N4 and the plastic feels very cheap.
I actually love the GS3 but I don't think you should give incorrect and biased advice. Both devices have their pros and cons and it's entirely a matter of opinion as to what the OP chooses.
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That saturation stuff on screens is complete nonsense...many people make video reviews on how the screen looks or if its close enough to the surface and stuff, but once u own the phone u dont notice any of that stupid stuff...
More sd card space IS needed. It is needed to:
Download roms
download movies
Download any big files in general
Keep music
keep pictures
Really i cant believe u manage to survive with 16gigs on nexus...maybe that has something to do with you already owning an s3:beer:
Plus i cant imagine backups and restores through recovery without sdcard...
So you say s3 is slow? Mine isnt, ive configured it very well and it is fast, once you remove some bloatware and autostarting apps, even more so.
Flash a custom rom and your comparisons are soon nulled.
Ok maybe youre right, samsung doesnt make such good roms for theirs cells, but as long as there are custom roms(and there ARE many), the phone will always be updated JUST as the nexus. It doesnt matter if the rom isnt from samsung, people just want the stuff to work, not pretty names: brands are for ios users.
(Plus youre telling me nexus 4 users dont use other custom roms as well?)
The cool features abou touchwiz are the ripple screen, the home screens behaviour, the notification area shortcuts(nexus shortcuts are lousy and not as quickly accessible as s3), theyre missing a quick-memory manager(if i want to quickly manage apps, see my free space left on sdcard or phone, free up ram, all i have to do is keep pressed home button).
About the root fix ure sayin: how are you going to manage without software keys? You can restrict them, but they will still be there, taking up some space of the already small screen(smalle than s3 at least).
If it appears/is faster, its also because of screen size.
And WHO is the screen manufacturing queen company? (I believe u know the answer.., so dont say the screen looks ugly, you might scare some android newbies)
And dont argue about the fact that s3 owners/developers had to copy from nexus to get better roms, i might remind you of an operating system that copied off of apple to achieve better results....
About the plastic case: maybe its plastic becausr it absorbs percussions more easily and it makes the phone lighter?
I dunno if youve ever had a phone break, or an iphone(perfect example), but the best cases arent those made of hard plastic, but the flexible ones. the best cases are made of thick rubber, which is even more flexible and absorbs even more percussions, but rubber cant be used to cover up the battery can it?
Samsungs plastic makes the phone lighter(it hits the floor less hard) and more easily likely to bounce when dropped, thus producing an aelastic impact, so the phones damage is reduced. Here falls the fairy tale about samsungs cheap hardware (which is more tested than many other companies', perhaps the most).
And as far as it goes, it seems you didnt mention any flaws about the n4 either...
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And might i add i've read in the past of many cases of nexus 4 back covers breaking up because of the screen lg/google put there to make it look cooler...but i suspect not many users like to hold up their phones with a broken screen(even if its the back)
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s3 or wait until the s4 comes out
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The s4 looks just like the s3 with little stupid features....it's the perfect changce to get the s3, as soon as the s4 comes out the prices will drop.
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killbubble said:
That saturation stuff on screens is complete nonsense...many people make video reviews on how the screen looks or if its close enough to the surface and stuff, but once u own the phone u dont notice any of that stupid stuff...
Oh really? Compare the screens of the GS3 and an LCD display phone, the GS3 is ridiculously oversaturated and unrealistic. Some like that, I don't.
More sd card space IS needed. It is needed to:
Download roms
download movies
Download any big files in general
Keep music
keep pictures
I have a fair amount of music, a movie, two big games (more than 1GB each) as well as a fair number of other games and apps, around half a gig of pics, a CWM backup and a titanium backup on my phone and still have over a gig free.
Really i cant believe u manage to survive with 16gigs on nexus...maybe that has something to do with you already owning an s3:beer:
The S3 is my Dad's, has nothing to do with my Nexus I'd flash it if he'd let me.
Plus i cant imagine backups and restores through recovery without sdcard...
So you say s3 is slow? Mine isnt, ive configured it very well and it is fast, once you remove some bloatware and autostarting apps, even more so.
Flash a custom rom and your comparisons are soon nulled.
Never said it's slow but you said in your original post that it's faster than a N4 and that simply is NOT true in any comparison. The S3 is still fast, I was just pointing out that the N4 is faster
Ok maybe youre right, samsung doesnt make such good roms for theirs cells, but as long as there are custom roms(and there ARE many), the phone will always be updated JUST as the nexus. It doesnt matter if the rom isnt from samsung, people just want the stuff to work, not pretty names: brands are for ios users.
(Plus youre telling me nexus 4 users dont use other custom roms as well?)
That doesn't matter, the fact is that if you don't want to use a custom ROM (which is the majority of users and it's quite possible that the OP doesn't either) then you're stuck with the worst manufacturer skin available.
The cool features abou touchwiz are the ripple screen, the home screens behaviour, the notification area shortcuts(nexus shortcuts are lousy and not as quickly accessible as s3), theyre missing a quick-memory manager(if i want to quickly manage apps, see my free space left on sdcard or phone, free up ram, all i have to do is keep pressed home button).
Ripple screen is a gimmick, don't actually know what you mean about the home screen behaviour, the notification area shortcuts are almost as good on the Nexus (and bear in mind they don't take up space for your notifications like the GS3's ones do) and the N4 has a memory manager without having to long press anything.
About the root fix ure sayin: how are you going to manage without software keys? You can restrict them, but they will still be there, taking up some space of the already small screen(smalle than s3 at least).
No, no they won't. You get rid of them completely and use PIE controls or LMT Launcher controls (which are essentially the same thing). Also, the screen sizes are practically the same (4.7 vs 4.8 inches)
If it appears/is faster, its also because of screen size.
Dafuq? That makes no sense whatsoever.
And WHO is the screen manufacturing queen company? (I believe u know the answer.., so dont say the screen looks ugly, you might scare some android newbies)
But the screen DOES look ugly. That's my point. Not only that, but the resolution and pixel densities are lower on the SGS3 and the fact that it uses a PenTile subpixel arrangement makes pixels visible in a few rare cases.
And dont argue about the fact that s3 owners/developers had to copy from nexus to get better roms, i might remind you of an operating system that copied off of apple to achieve better results....
Never said anything about that, Android is open and free for devs to use.
About the plastic case: maybe its plastic becausr it absorbs percussions more easily and it makes the phone lighter?
They're almost the same weight, but yes plastic is more durable. I personally take care of my phones very well (my HD2 saw two years of use with no scratches or dents) with a pouch case. I can use the phone as it was meant to be used (no ugly cases and screen protectors) but have it safe in my pocket.
I dunno if youve ever had a phone break, or an iphone(perfect example), but the best cases arent those made of hard plastic, but the flexible ones. the best cases are made of thick rubber, which is even more flexible and absorbs even more percussions, but rubber cant be used to cover up the battery can it?
Samsungs plastic makes the phone lighter(it hits the floor less hard) and more easily likely to bounce when dropped, thus producing an aelastic impact, so the phones damage is reduced. Here falls the fairy tale about samsungs cheap hardware (which is more tested than many other companies', perhaps the most).
None of this changes the fact that the phone feels very cheap in the hand when compared to the N4, iPhone 5 and other flagships.
And as far as it goes, it seems you didnt mention any flaws about the n4 either...
I acknowledged the potential lack of storage for some people and the fact that there's no removable battery. The camera is also sub-par.
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And might i add i've read in the past of many cases of nexus 4 back covers breaking up because of the screen lg/google put there to make it look cooler...but i suspect not many users like to hold up their phones with a broken screen(even if its the back)
If you mean people have had the glass on the back shattering then of course they have if they drop it.
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Couldn't be bothered to individually quote each bit so I answered your points in red
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Im using xda app, using red ti quote would have me writing down htmls every 5 secs, plus i cant quote the already quoted, so ive numbered the answers:
Too long....
1)the screen looks just fine, lock away your s4 for a week and use the s3, after the week has passed you will notice you dont notice anything wrong about the screen anymore, screen color comparisons are nonsense, becuase you wont notice the difference unless u own another phone(like u). If you thinks its oversaturated, theres an option in stock rom to change 4 colors, 4 options actually...
2)wow i cant believe you actually have a gig left...
I own one nandroid backup(dont need more)
2 movies(watched and deleted the others)
Something like 40 youtube videos
1.4gigs offline wiki
6.8 gig of music
662mb of images and camera vidS
112mb of random download stuff ive never had the time to delete
1.9gigs of stuff i got ready to flash in case i need it(roms or gapps and stuff)
+other coding stuff random junk
Ive got 11.6gig free on sdcard, and since on my internal storage i only keep apps, ive got 4gigs free.
Dont think u gonna watch many more movies with 1gig
3)i think s3 i believe to be faster, but i cant be sure cause ive never owned both cells.
4)guess people looking for help on xda know the goodies can be found in custom roms, so no real obstacle here. stock rom is a problem for people that barely know what a smartphone is and dont tweak/use it that much. In that case, s3 will still be just fine, its fast even without tweaking if its not loaded...
5)ripple effect is cool and with added ink mod effect it just rocks. Guess its gimmocks to you cause you DONT HAVE it
Nexus notification area is light years from samsung's, i would find it difficult to use it, it takes even longer than ios' sbsettings tweak.
By homescreen effects i mean the way the pages look, theyre cool.
About memory manager...i dont know what n4 has got, do you mean automatic memory management? I was instead speaking of quick access to features like free space left of uninstall apps or cleanup ram..
6)(apart from the fact that 0.1inch is not small deal for a smartphone) i dunno how comfortable it would be to handle the smartphone eith gestures...just like ubuntu mobile or blackberry...i think it kinda sucks and takes longer than pressing a button.
Have YOU removed touch buttons from your phone?
7)about when i wrote that if screen is smaller phone will work faster....obviously i meant just that. If gpu needs to elaborate less pixels, the reactions will be faster, its one of the reasons why apple's weak A-chips make their phone look fast...they dont the screen is just REALLY small...
8)wha...the....is pentile subpixel arrangement nonsense?????
I use my ohone everyday, i can tell "legible" from not legible. And s3's screen is VERY sharp.....
Enough with these 'small-detail' comparisons (just like in youtube videos), no one can say the s3 screen looks so bad it is noticeable when using it. It looks almost just like n4, the fact it is SLIGHTLY more hd just means....nothing really! I can not notice any zigzag lines if i bring the screen close up to my face, so theres no point in speaking of screen sharpness. Ive already watched hd 720p and full hd videos on this phone, i dont recall not enjoying it because of low pixel visibility or whatever. Plus with the new full hd smartphones, talk about screen sharpness is becoming stupid, because the human eye is not even capable anymore of detecting single pixels at such high ppis.
9)i can use my phone without any cases or screen protectors as well. Matter of fact i dont use any screen protectors and some weeks i dont wear a cover at all, the only reason i DO usually wear a cover is becuase i remember the times when i had an ipod and everyone's was always breaking, but mine never broke because of its great rubber cover...therecore i feel like the cover would save my screen if i were ever to make it fall down the stairs, pkus s3 har great aerodynamics.
And the phone DOES NOT feel cheap AT ALL! it feels extremely light and made of long lasting material, even though the plastic makes it look otherwise...
10)now you completely acnowledge some s4 defects, good to know.
11)ive dropped my s3 a couple of times, bounced like it was going to shatter into pieces but ended up lying on the floor as if it were sunbathing, not one scratch.
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Before this gets out of hand............OP it is your money. Go to the Dev threads and check them out yourself. Specs are readily available for both. Which is best for you is only something that you can decide.
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^I thought this thread was going to be locked? Anyway this is the last OT post from me, as Woody said the choice of phone is entirely down to opinion and nobody can really decide for you (OP). @killbubble, you can PM me if you really want to discuss further after this.
1. I noticed it as soon as I picked up the GS3, not once I compared it to another phone. With TouchWiz's colour scheme (bright green and orange everywhere) it's very noticeable and quite ugly.
2. Well, I do. Different people have different usages for their phones, that's just the way it is. Some need the storage, others are perfectly content with even the 8GB N4.
3. Read my earlier post. Not only do benchmarks prove that the N4 has a superior chipset, but my usage also tells me this.
4. The people who don't use custom ROMs = 95% of consumers if not more. Since the OP had to ask this question, the likelihood is that he falls into this category.
5. The ripple effect is a matter of opinion completely. I can honestly say that even if I had it I'd turn it off because it's useless and I think that it's gimmicky. I have no issues whatsoever with the notification shade, a two fingered swipe down or a swipe from the area with all of the icons (battery, WiFi etc.) brings up quick settings, a normal swipe brings up the notifications. Samsung have done NOTHING special here, they've just changed the design. As for the homescreens, they look exactly the same as the homescreens on any other Android device; if anything worse as the app drawer icon is off-center. If I hit multitasking on my phone I get all of my recent apps and the ability to either kill all of them or swipe an individual app off. There's also an option to show the free/used RAM if I want to, but I don't have that on since I don't see any need for it.
6. If you don't know how it would be then you can't comment on it. Some people can use the PIE controls very well and just as quickly if not more quickly than normal controls. It's definitely faster than having to use a physical home button (once you get used to it that is). It's not natural to have a completely touch-based OS then have a physical home button, it just doesn't feel right. I personally don't use PIE, I just have my softkeys set to 70% of the normal size which is right for me.
7. You're talking about screen RESOLUTION, which is higher on the N4 than the S3. Your argument is completely invalid. Also, a bunch of off-screen benchmarks can quite easily prove that the N4 has a more powerful GPU. When you say that Apple's chips are weak, do you even know what you're talking about? The A6 in the iPhone 5 is a brilliant chip and the A6X in the iPad 4th gen was easily the best until recently.
8. Hey, you said that the GS3's screen is superior, I'm just pointing out that that's not true.
9. The phone DOES feel cheap, which is why every single tech reviewer has mentioned it time and time again. I never said it isn't durable (my Dad has managed to drop his down the stairs twice somehow with not a single dent) but it's not as nice to use as other phones.
10/11. Nothing to say here.
R: [Q] Need Help Galaxy s3 vs Nexus 4
Im not gonna reply, even though i've got some...
I appreciate all answers, but it really is down to op, the debate i opened up was just to try and help establish some valid differences between the devices and deal breakers - to make a choice the ot needs to get this information all sorted out...
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coolkakucool said:
I m planning to buy galaxy s3 i 9305 or i9300 or nexus 4 but i am really confused.please help me. i have heard that almost everyone that owns a nexus has a yellow tint or yellow patch problems.are there any who got rid of it and moreover nexus has a battery life disaster and supports otg only with power.on the other hand s3 has less configuration,less custom roms and mods but is better with battery and screen issues.
Now the price is almost same for both the devices.
keeping the current issues and solutions in mind,please reply as i have to purchase one soon.
Regards
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S3 for sure! Nexus 4 has more raw power, but no added features. ..
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My LG G2 review - coming from stock Android (Nexus One/S/4/7)

Hi Guys,
After owning several iPhones back in the day (up to the 3GS) and then Nexus One, Nexus S and Nexus 4 (skipped the Galaxy Nexus) and a Nexus 7 tablet, always on (unrooted) stock Android, I couldn't resist the temptation and got myself a 32GB LG G2 (European version).
Why not wait a few weeks for the Nexus 5 ?
The main reason is that the LG G2 has just the perfect hardware specs for me, there is nothing I would realistically want more. The Nexus 5 will have smaller screen and smaller battery. Also, the last 3 versions of Android did not bring any significant useable stuff to the table in order to make me really want to update, so the newest Android update is not so important to have.
The other reason is that I am really bored of stock Android. There are some things that Google will stubbornly never add or change, and I'm not one to install custom ROMs all day. For example, I can't set different sound volumes for the call ringtones and notification ringtones. And the notification LED is so neglected by the stock Android (on phones that have it). I gave my "old" Nexus 4 to my girlfriend, and although she loves to speed over her old Galaxy S Advance, she immediately begun asking where are the "gimmicks" that Samsung included into its software and that she used all the time. This is saying something.
One minor reason is that I have had hardware problems ALL of my Nexus devices, despite the fact that I take great care of them: the Nexus One's power button became loose and broke over time (HTC support really sucks !), the Nexus S capacitive sensor burned in a corner (display assembly replacement), the Nexus 7 speakers broke and now sound is very distorted. The Nexus 4 screen was a bit yellowish when I received it, I read that it's from the glue bonding the glass layers, it improved over time but never had the correct colors, it always had a subtle yellow tint to it.
Why LG G2 ?
Just a quick glance at the competition and my previous experience with various brands made me choose the G2. The iPhone is really out of question due to the microscopic screen and lack of notification LED (it's incredible how a business user can live without a notification LED), the Galaxy S4 and HTC One have outdated hardware (I mean, if I pay the same price, why not get the latest hardware), the HTC One has a microscopic, unusable notification LED (and I don't wish you to need something from the HTC technical support !), the Galaxy Note 3 is really too big. I have never used a spare battery with any of my phones, and never used a microSD card, so these missing features are just not minuses for me. The lack of removable battery (and thus the inclusion of a bigger battery) is in fact a huge plus.
The Motorola MotoX has a very nice notification feature, but it pulsates too slow (indicating battery concerns) and the rest of the hardware is too average and I can't see it as an upgrade over the Nexus 4 (plus it's not available in Europe although I could get it if I really wanted to).
The LG G2 hardware
I will say that the excellent, biggest-in-class display, the impressive battery life and the very small bezels (phone fits in my front jeans pocket !), combined with the killer 'Knock On' feature make this phone an easy choice over any other phone right now, hardware-wise. Not to mention the newest Snapdragon 800 processor. I am even pleased by its camera capability, pictures always look very sharp because of the optical stabilization, although there is too much noise reduction and loss of detail (however resized for web/facebook, pictures look great). The fact that it has an FM radio is a huge plus for me, because I needed a radio to listen to my favorite talk show between the parking lot and my home, and it's proven to do its job great so far
The LG G2 software
Believe me when I say this, the stock Android is extremely boring compared to LGs software. It's so refreshing to see many user-needed features included in their software. I don't care for most of them, but they don't get in the way either. However, some of them are really useful and I never see Google implementing them in their stock Android. For example, I can now set different ringtone volumes for notifications and calls, I can access the phone files from my computer over my home network, I have a very customizable battery saver that kicks in when needed, etc.
There is only one thing that bothers my in LG G2's software: the notification drawer has some items that you can never remove from there, like the screen brightness, ringtone volume and a row with some shortcuts. It's not unbearable, but I prefer that to only be used for notifications. At least they could move their bloatware controls *after* all the notifications instead of before them.
Conclusion
I really like the LG G2. I think it trumps every other phone at this moment, but this is not the important thing. The important thing is that I don't have to charge my phone every day (it sometimes lasts 3+ days !), it has a great screen for web reading and browsing and it's just a well-designed phone.
Good review, vanilla android was a performance necessity when phones weren't power houses. I too enjoy the gadgetry of mfg skins. I still like stock android for my tablet, but for my primary device, I like the bells and whistles.
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Thnx for this review. I love my g2 more lol!
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Well i suppose the camera is better than just for facebook and instagram. Its a 13mp for god's sake!
Fille84 said:
Well i suppose the camera is better than just for facebook and instagram. Its a 13mp for god's sake!
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The megapixel count really doesn't matter, if you take a picture with an old 5 Megapixel Canon DSLR you will blow any smartphone out if the water. The pixel size / sensor size and lens quality does matter a lot.
The LG G2 camera is quite surprisingly good for a smartphone camera with a 1/3 inch sensor. The lens seems very good. But the resulting image is heavily post-processed to eliminate noise due to small pixel phtosites. Unfortunately fine detail is gone as well, but this is only visible on full-size images. Basically the camera software is optimized for instant picture sharing with little to no user post-processing, which is a correct thing to do in a smartphone.
I for one would prefer a noisier but more detailed image which I could post-process with a dedicated suite like Adobe's Lightroom. But I guess this is what big cameras are for...
Thanks for this review. I like it
Nexus 5 = Crap
This are the technical characteristics of the upcoming Nexuseless 5, I prefer LG G2 ever.
4.95″ 1080p display
32GB and 16GB internal storage
2GB RAM
MSM8974 aka Snapdragon 800 at 2.3GHz
8MP OIS rear camera
1.3MP front camera
2300mAh battery <<<<<<---- Why are they still using this crap battery!!?????
Sensors: Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Compass, Proximity/Ambient Light, Pressure
Slimport compatibility
Micro SIM slot
Notification light
Wireless charging
NFC
Bluetooth 4.0 (Bluetooth 3.0 was also listed, but this is most likely an error.)
UMTS/GSM/CDMA/LTE compatibility
More details of the Nexuseless 5 here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/173744848/LG-D821
I cant make my mind up about the LG g2 or the nexus 5 the nexus 5 looks nicer but the G2 has better specs.
G2 in my opinion looks so sexy and honestly that's one of the many reasons I bought it. Its different with the home button setup on the back and has the specs to last a long time for me. Also running stock and with 5 hour screen time I'm way over 24 hours of use
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blair287 said:
I cant make my mind up about the LG g2 or the nexus 5 the nexus 5 looks nicer but the G2 has better specs.
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Looks is Subjective, IMO Nexus 5 just has two advantages over G2, Price and Timely Updates. That is it.
My views are that personally the phone is just a little to big for me to use comfortably. I would have preferred say 5" screen with the narrow bezzels making the device slightly narrower and easier to hold - but thats just a personal preference. I would have also liked a textued back to the phone (at the moment i am using a skin to give it texture) as this phone is on the maximum edge of what is comfortable to me i dont want to add to the size with a case, i also dont want to lose the look ad feel i have from the device (the 'in the hand feel') you get.
All in all however these were not a deal breaker for me as there was nothing else out for me to consider at the time (like the moto x but not available in uk) so bought the g2 sim free.
After a couple of weeks of use i started to dislike elements of the lg software and its design and just found that adding a launcher just gave me other issues. What is great now is that the dev community is really picking up for this phone and roms are starting to appear so you now have the option to pretty much have whatever you want on your phone. You can go pretty much bare bones android without any of Lg's bloat but you an also add whatever elements of Lgs stuff you like to the vanilla rom so giving you the best of both worlds.
So to sum up.....for me the device has awesome specs, latest processor, excellent camera, amazing battery life, great development options to customize to your personal liking. Only thing for me is the size but maybe thats just because i have short stubby fingers
At the end of the day its all about choices, beauty is that now you have choices so if the hardware tickles your fancy you can customize till your hearts content and end up with your perfect device
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My views are that personally the phone is just a little to big for me to use comfortably. I would have preferred say 5" screen with the narrow bezzels making the device slightly narrower and easier to hold - but thats just a personal preference. I would have also liked a textued back to the phone (at the moment i am using a skin to give it texture) as this phone is on the maximum edge of what is comfortable to me i dont want to add to the size with a case, i also dont want to lose the look ad feel i have from the device (the 'in the hand feel') you get.
All in all however these were not a deal breaker for me as there was nothing else out for me to consider at the time (like the moto x but not available in uk) so bought the g2 sim free.
After a couple of weeks of use i started to dislike elements of the lg software and its design and just found that adding a launcher just gave me other issues. What is great now is that the dev community is really picking up for this phone and roms are starting to appear so you now have the option to pretty much have whatever you want on your phone. You can go pretty much bare bones android without any of Lg's bloat but you an also add whatever elements of Lgs stuff you like to the vanilla rom so giving you the best of both worlds.
So to sum up.....for me the device has awesome specs, latest processor, excellent camera, amazing battery life, great development options to customize to your personal liking. Only thing for me is the size but maybe thats just because i have short stubby fingers
At the end of the day its all about choices, beauty is that now you have choices so if the hardware tickles your fancy you can customize till your hearts content and end up with your perfect device
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what kind of issues did you encounter when adding a launcher? and what launcher?
I appreciate everyone's reviews here!
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what kind of issues did you encounter when adding a launcher? and what launcher?
I appreciate everyone's reviews here!
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You name it i tried it!
Nova, smart launcher, Aviate, Adw.....
To be fair to these launchers though they probably were not really issue's. Just little things that frustrated me about them, could have been the inability to do something or set something up with them, notifications, different custom options etc.
Most people would probably not even have experienced it or have issue with it.
The thing i was leading to really was the fact that now with a good dev community coming on board with this device (been quite overlooked generally in my opinion until now - availabilty in some countries may have been the reason for this though) that there are many choices for people now.
If the hardware of the device fits the bill then you are no longer tied with elements of the stock build you dont like and pretty much change every bit about it one way or another - just means taking that step of rooting and flashing. Dont get me wrong im no developer or expert in this field but as someone who is particularly fussy and difficult to please with phones and software etc (must be my ocd) everyone has options and its really not that difficult once you have done it a few times.
Bottom line is if someone dosent like the stock ui/experience you can change and have whatever you want
I know my comments above may seem obvious to many especially as we are on a developer site however a lot of people come to the site for opinions and information and who may have thought about making changes but never actually taking the final steps. I did and now i have changed the things that frustrated me without the need to just change the device again! Like i said i am major ocd and fussy about phones but it does at least give a little more longevity to the device if these options are here.
Hope this makes sense lol
ps - sorry didnt mean to hijack or step on the thread.
Thanks :good:
hpsauce37 said:
My views are that personally the phone is just a little to big for me to use comfortably. I would have preferred say 5" screen with the narrow bezzels making the device slightly narrower and easier to hold - but thats just a personal preference. I would have also liked a textued back to the phone (at the moment i am using a skin to give it texture) as this phone is on the maximum edge of what is comfortable to me i dont want to add to the size with a case, i also dont want to lose the look ad feel i have from the device (the 'in the hand feel') you get.
All in all however these were not a deal breaker for me as there was nothing else out for me to consider at the time (like the moto x but not available in uk) so bought the g2 sim free.
After a couple of weeks of use i started to dislike elements of the lg software and its design and just found that adding a launcher just gave me other issues. What is great now is that the dev community is really picking up for this phone and roms are starting to appear so you now have the option to pretty much have whatever you want on your phone. You can go pretty much bare bones android without any of Lg's bloat but you an also add whatever elements of Lgs stuff you like to the vanilla rom so giving you the best of both worlds.
So to sum up.....for me the device has awesome specs, latest processor, excellent camera, amazing battery life, great development options to customize to your personal liking. Only thing for me is the size but maybe thats just because i have short stubby fingers
At the end of the day its all about choices, beauty is that now you have choices so if the hardware tickles your fancy you can customize till your hearts content and end up with your perfect device
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The 5.2" G2 isn't that much bigger then the Galaxy Nexus 4.65". It is thinner but taller/wider by a few millimeters. Not much difference.
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[/COLOR]Awesome to see a "stock android fan" praise LG's UI..Great review from someone who obviously knows what the android experience should be....i have a vid on my channel on how you can keep the notifications down a few lines and stays were you leave it, all as long as you have a few notifications, you never need look at the top part.....some ppl do not realize this : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaMdxvvZYFE
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Cst79 said:
Hi Guys,
Why LG G2 ?
Just a quick glance at the competition and my previous experience with various brands made me choose the G2. The iPhone is really out of question due to the microscopic screen and lack of notification LED (it's incredible how a business user can live without a notification LED), the Galaxy S4 and HTC One have outdated hardware (I mean, if I pay the same price, why not get the latest hardware), the HTC One has a microscopic, unusable notification LED (and I don't wish you to need something from the HTC technical support !), the Galaxy Note 3 is really too big. I have never used a spare battery with any of my phones, and never used a microSD card, so these missing features are just not minuses for me. The lack of removable battery (and thus the inclusion of a bigger battery) is in fact a huge plus.
The Motorola MotoX has a very nice notification feature, but it pulsates too slow (indicating battery concerns) and the rest of the hardware is too average and I can't see it as an upgrade over the Nexus 4 (plus it's not available in Europe although I could get it if I really wanted to).
Conclusion
I really like the LG G2. I think it trumps every other phone at this moment, but this is not the important thing. The important thing is that I don't have to charge my phone every day (it sometimes lasts 3+ days !), it has a great screen for web reading and browsing and it's just a well-designed phone.
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well said...
welcome to the club! (happy owners of G2)

I'm dissappointed with s6 edge

Any S6 edge owners feel dissappointed with the overall phone?
I don't currently own the phone but the thought has crossed my mind. I've been impressed with the reviews on YouTube but wasn't as impressed when I saw the phone at my local cpw. In fact I was slight dissappointed, mind you this was the White version. Even with the bloatware removed I realised I still hate TW with a passion! I didn't experience any lag in the short time I played with the phone. The speakers still sounded tiny but improved from the previous S5.
The back is a finger magnet but not really an issue for me as the pros of having a premium built phone outweighs the cons. i didn't get a chance to try the camera but from past experience I expect it to be top notch.
So overall I felt the phone was not worth the price tag and I still hate TW and because it's edge not sure if there will be many roms for this phone either.
Having said that I would like to add its the best samsung phone so far for sure.
Incredible phone if only it weren't scratched!
riz157 said:
Any S6 edge owners feel dissappointed with the overall phone?
I don't currently own the phone but the thought has crossed my mind. I've been impressed with the reviews on YouTube but wasn't as impressed when I saw the phone at my local cpw. In fact I was slight dissappointed, mind you this was the White version. Even with the bloatware removed I realised I still hate TW with a passion! I didn't experience any lag in the short time I played with the phone. The speakers still sounded tiny but improved from the previous S5.
The back is a finger magnet but not really an issue for me as the pros of having a premium built phone outweighs the cons. i didn't get a chance to try the camera but from past experience I expect it to be top notch.
So overall I felt the phone was not worth the price tag and I still hate TW and because it's edge not sure if there will be many roms for this phone either.
Having said that I would like to add its the best samsung phone so far for sure.
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It's funny because your post sounds like you list all these pros and then say ur disappointed. Not sure if ur being sarcastic.
Maknora said:
It's funny because your post sounds like you list all these pros and then say ur disappointed. Not sure if ur being sarcastic.
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Lol
I'm being real definetly best Samsung phone but not as good as thought it was going to be. It seemed much better on YouTube then seeing it live. Plus tw is completely off putting. I thought I could live with tw but it's pants.
Honestly, the only thing I can find to complain about is the app draw not being alphabetically sortable. Other than that, I think this Is their best phone since the S2.
Just get nova. What I did first thing. Liking it more each day
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Tlswofud1 said:
Just get nova. What I did first thing. Liking it more each day
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I also find that I get no redraws with Nova.
madpete said:
Honestly, the only thing I can find to complain about is the app draw not being alphabetically sortable. Other than that, I think this Is their best phone since the S2.
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There is button that says A-Z right above apps in app drawer. Press it and they will be sorted in alphabetical order.
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There is button that says A-Z right above apps in app drawer. Press it and they will be sorted in alphabetical order.
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That option appears to have been removed in some firmwares (or specially added in some). I have no idea why Samsung would do this.
Ive noticed that the phone seems quicker with Nova and as others have said there are no redraws. I had quite a few using TWLauncher but everything is fine with Nova.
I also installed the google keyboard because I hate Samsung's keyboard
Not really disappointed, got the Edge since yesterday, rooted it upon receiving. From the reviews I felt the edge was pretty useless, but I find it pretty ok at this point and hope to develop some nice feeds for it. The general feeling when using it is pretty good (for me), coming from the Nexus 5 and Nexus 6.
What's really amazing is the phone's general speed as well as the camera, fatest ever I've seen so far.
However, I found out the device never goes in deep-sleep! So it drains about 1.5%/h, which in itself is not too bad. I previously had a Nexus 6 and that's what the stock kernel drained in standby going in deep sleep. But using Faux123 kernel on the Nexus 6 dropped the drain to 0.2%/h ! At this point I'm not sure if it's just bugged or if it's rooting that's causing this as there's no wakelock to be seen anywhere.
For that reason, I'm still left wondering if I should return it or wait for a fix. Didn't find a thread about this yet though the deep-sleep issue has already been mentioned in this CF-Auto-Root thread.
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Not really disappointed, got the Edge since yesterday, rooted it upon receiving. From the reviews I felt the edge was pretty useless, but I find it pretty ok at this point and hope to develop some nice feeds for it. The general feeling when using it is pretty good (for me), coming from the Nexus 5 and Nexus 6.
What's really amazing is the phone's general speed as well as the camera, fatest ever I've seen so far.
However, I found out the device never goes in deep-sleep! So it drains about 1.5%/h, which in itself is not too bad. I previously had a Nexus 6 and that's what the stock kernel drained in standby going in deep sleep. But using Faux123 kernel on the Nexus 6 dropped the drain to 0.2%/h ! At this point I'm not sure if it's just bugged or if it's rooting that's causing this as there's no wakelock to be seen anywhere.
For that reason, I'm still left wondering if I should return it or wait for a fix. Didn't find a thread about this yet though the deep-sleep issue has already been mentioned in this CF-Auto-Root thread.
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I'm trading in the n6 for the edge find n6 to big but do you find the edge to small I've not seen one yet just ordered it online
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I'm trading in the n6 for the edge find n6 to big but do you find the edge to small I've not seen one yet just ordered it online
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LOL, yes at first it feels quite small, but it's that I got used to the big size after a few months. However I can tell you it felt much better in my hand the moment I held it!
Had the same feeling when I switched from a Note 2 or 3 to the Nexus 5, and it's the exact opposite feeling when switching from the Nexus 5 to the Nexus 6, feels too big at first.
Actually I prefered the Nexus 5 to the Nexus 6 by far, the LG N5 feeling was just awesome. And I'm finding some of this feeling in the edge now, it just fits right in my hand and it feels good. The all both sides glass/metal design is pretty good actually. And the edge, while I believed at first would be useless is a pretty good replacement to the N6 black lockscreen when you pick it up. Definitely help avoids turning it on to see the time or notifications. But I must say the N6 black/white lockscreen was really awesome and I'm missing it already because I had some nice graphs showing in black/white there (see screenshot, though it's colored you can imagine how neat it was in black/white) ! LOL
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LOL, yes at first it feels quite small, but it's that I got used to the big size after a few months. However I can tell you it felt much better in my hand the moment I held it!
Had the same feeling when I switched from a Note 2 or 3 to the Nexus 5, and it's the exact opposite feeling when switching from the Nexus 5 to the Nexus 6, feels too big at first.
Actually I prefered the Nexus 5 to the Nexus 6 by far, the LG N5 feeling was just awesome. And I'm finding some of this feeling in the edge now, it just fits right in my hand and it feels good. The all both sides glass/metal design is pretty good actually. And the edge, while I believed at first would be useless is a pretty good replacement to the N6 black lockscreen when you pick it up. Definitely help avoids turning it on to see the time or notifications. But I must say the N6 black/white lockscreen was really awesome and I'm missing it already because I had some nice graphs showing in black/white there (see screenshot, though it's colored you can imagine how neat it was in black/white) ! LOL
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Thanks for the info bud
The only thing that is disappointing is the battery life. This thing just crushes the battery (so far). Samsung won't be coming out with a wall hugger commercial with this phone..
madpete said:
Honestly, the only thing I can find to complain about is the app draw not being alphabetically sortable. Other than that, I think this Is their best phone since the S2.
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I totally agree with you, also the auto rotation bug which I'm facing at present.
But since both these issues are software related, I'm sure these will be fixed in the upcoming updates soon enough.
CHeers!
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I also find that I get no redraws with Nova.
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Are you getting re-draw with TW?
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Are you getting re-draw with TW?
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Hell ya. Started a thread about it in Q&A.
mwatson said:
Are you getting re-draw with TW?
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Redraws are often caused by the launcher being killed, eg not persisting in memory. If using stock launcher and rooted, you can set a build.prop to fix this. Just did it and rebooted, no more redraws, as far as I can tell , but I only rebooted an hour ago.
The prop setting is ro.HOME_APP_ADJ = 1, some app can do that for you, including System Tuner or 3C Toolbox, but there are others I'm sure.
madpete said:
Honestly, the only thing I can find to complain about is the app draw not being alphabetically sortable. Other than that, I think this Is their best phone since the S2.
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On ATT version, you can sort alphabetically. It's a one time sort. So it sorts the apps, then you can re-arrange it again and any new apps will be added at the end.
I love my edge. There are some quirks, but I am trying to figure that out in the forums now.
No scratches, no dead pixels, good battery life (so far), no over heating issues. Fast charging works. Wireless charging works (Qi).
No wi-fi issues. Pictures are great, no noise when shaking it.
For utility of the edge. Well, I knew to begin with it was mostly an aesthetic thing for me. It does make some content look nice or pop-out. The fleshy part of your thumb on your wrist may touch the screen inadvertently. However that is just something I need to get use to. Meaning I just need to adjust how I hold my phone. I had a s4 before with an otterbox so I never had accidental touches.
I Have the S6 Edge and its quite boring!
I had the iPhone 6 Plus and i switched to the S6 Edge thinking about the specs and all it was the best samsung smartphone ive ever seen, im actually dissapointed in the phone! i have a light scratch on the metal bezel already and i always take care of my phones. If you select edit in the app drawer, it will only uninstall apps but you can actually drag apps around, try it! i dont know if thats help! lol
Anyway, ive experienced a bit of lag and stuttering in the touchwiz launcher, i know they have improved it but its still a little laggy with 3GB of RAM!!!, the screen when viewed in sunlight gets really bright, im not sure if thats normal but it looks terrible. The Play Store really is lacking in apps, coming from an iPhone you really notice the difference. i do miss IOS being so smooth and almost lag free. Im not on any sides when it comes to Android and IOS but im finding it hard to move to Android!
Maybe ill wait for the iPhone 6s Plus, i really dont think specs matter anymore!! Its all about software these days!

I moved to iOS, and these are the things I miss about Android. (Namely the Nexus6P)

I had the Nexus 6P, but as I take a lot of video, the lack of OIS really was a killer for me, so I made the jump to iOS to see which one I prefer. I'm still a baby iOS user, but I do feel like it's superior, but there are a few things I miss from Android (a.k.a. Nexus 6P).
https://www.the-newshub.com/lifestyle/moving-to-ios-6-things-i-miss-about-android
TechMitchell said:
I had the Nexus 6P, but as I take a lot of video, the lack of OIS really was a killer for me, so I made the jump to iOS to see which one I prefer. I'm still a baby iOS user, but I do feel like it's superior, but there are a few things I miss from Android (a.k.a. Nexus 6P).
https://www.the-newshub.com/lifestyle/moving-to-ios-6-things-i-miss-about-android
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Can't you just tell us here instead of sending us somewhere else?
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[hfm] said:
Can't you just tell us here instead of sending us somewhere else?
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As a freelance writer with absolutely NO income, I rely on achieving a certain amount views on my posts to get paid. I wouldn't do it if I didn't have to hit a certain number, but unfortunately that's how it works. I hate posting links to things like this, trust me I do, but it's the situation I'm in. Hopefully the community forgives me.
Definitely sounds like click bait.
nice little read
short and not too bad
Agreed. Good & concise read. I don't fault the OP for needing to make a living. He appears to be a good writer!
at least the dude is not out there spamming the internet like SoFlo
Keep it up dude
Good read, for me it's strictly a no-brainer due to the fact that I'm entrenched in the Google ecosystem and services.
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The other thing you missed imo is drag and drop, iTunes is the single biggest reason i don't own an iPhone
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Sounds like a good plan! The 6P is a tough competitor!!
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Agreed. Good & concise read. I don't fault the OP for needing to make a living. He appears to be a good writer!
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Thank you for being understanding and the compliment! Currently tossing up whether I should do journalism in college
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Good read, for me it's strictly a no-brainer due to the fact that I'm entrenched in the Google ecosystem and services.
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That's my situation now. I didn't think I relied too heavily on Google, but boy do I. Now I find myself looking for workarounds, such as for the Google Photos predicament.
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The other thing you missed imo is drag and drop, iTunes is the single biggest reason i don't own an iPhone
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I only use iTunes to back up my iPhone. I stream all my music via Google Play Music because I have so many albums uploaded to it.
Not bad and the "click-bait" is easily forgiven. I'm curious how you feel the sound of the music is between the two. Granted, idk if you used V4A on your 6P at all, but I'm curious which is better. How do you find the AMOLED panel vs the LCD? Which device do you find more fluid?
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Not bad and the "click-bait" is easily forgiven. I'm curious how you feel the sound of the music is between the two. Granted, idk if you used V4A on your 6P at all, but I'm curious which is better. How do you find the AMOLED panel vs the LCD? Which device do you find more fluid?
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I didn't use V4A on the 6P, so it should be unsurprising that the sound on the iPhone is imo much better. (Headphones only, 6P speakers blow the 6s+ away).
Both devices are exceptionally fluid, and I would have trouble discerning a winner in a smoothness test, but I'm not disappointed with either in this regard. Maybe the strangest thing about the iPhone is how Twitter seems to take longer than all other apps to load, but other than that I might even put the iPhone a little ahead, but that's probably due to the transitions.
The AMOLED panel was beautiful, and the resolution was definitely better, but, as an amateur photographer, I prefer the LCD for it's colour accuracy. I'm aware I can turn on sRGB on the 6P to get the same effect, so in that regard I'd have to give the display award to the 6P, but straight out of the box; iPhone.
I went from an iPhone 6S+ to the 6p. IMO, your list of negatives about iOS is way too short! I'd add:
-Can't turn off auto arrange icons
-No app drawer. So if the app is installed, it's on one of your home screens.
-Difficult to make a song your ringtone.
-Will not port all songs from old Android phone. Itunes must think I don't own them all. Have to go through a process to convert them.
-App store sucks compared to Play Store. No ability to sort by feedback, very hard to find useful information. Total disaster organizationally. And most decent apps are not free.
-Have to jailbreak it just to theme it! And Jailbreak had not been achieved on the release I was on.
-Apple maps suck, and so does the current gen Google maps for iphones, since it won't locally store things like "home" and recent searches.
-Notification bar does not show temp.
-Stock keyboard sucks (no swiping) and Apple won't let 3rd party app makers access the speech to text microphone button for their better keyboards. So you have to switch back and forth if you want to use voice to text.
-Where are my home screen Widgets?
-Can't change things on a system level, like the keyboard or messaging. You can change it for some apps, but sometimes the stock one will pop up instead.
Opera mini browser will not allow typing input from the Swiftkey keyboard. Had to switch back to the horrid stock keyboard.
All these little wrinkles just make it feel less refined than a newer Android. Other stuff gives that feel, too. Like most settings for most apps are in the Settings area. But some apps have settings only in the app, some have some settings in both places. And the lack of a back button makes the interface less efficient since not every screen you progress to has a back link. Makes it a bit confusing.
Amazing. After reading it, already thought you were a "professional" (NOT exaggerating)! Best of luck in choosing a career. Continue to do such quality work, and you'll succeed in whatever path you choose.
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Thank you for being understanding and the compliment! Currently tossing up whether I should do journalism in college
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Amazing. After reading it, already thought you were a "professional" (NOT exaggerating)! Best of luck in choosing a career. Continue to do such quality work, and you'll succeed in whatever path you choose.
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Thanks so much man! That means a lot!
i like the 6p, i came from a iphone 6s and it was buttery smooth and outstanding battery but no jailbreak killed it for me. the 6p is a bit too large for me and for a high end it does stutter quite a bit. debating selling it.
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i like the 6p, i came from a iphone 6s and it was buttery smooth and outstanding battery but no jailbreak killed it for me. the 6p is a bit too large for me and for a high end it does stutter quite a bit. debating selling it.
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The jailbreak will be released soon for the next iOS, and I'll almost definitely be jailbreaking it.

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