I received my Razr today and I can't explain how much of a relief it is to own a half way decent phone. I was using the Thunderbolt and I can't begin to vent my frustration for that crappy device...
Anyway, I had some questions because I've noticed a few things that are slightly different in this device section on these forums... Hopefully some of you can clear the air.
1. I see there are some GSM and CDMA ROM's, so I am guessing the Razr isn't just for Verizon?
2. Is there anything I have to do prior to rooting my device? I heard the bootloader use to be locked and it required a lot of effort to get around it... I'm not sure if this is still the case or if someone has made a simple exploit to go around the loader.
3. What is the most popular method of rooting this device today? I see the EternityProject EasyRootICS 1.5 has a lot of views, would this be a good recommendation for rooting?
4. Sort of related to my last question, but I read awhile ago that the bootloader was unlocked but only one core worked. Is this still the case?
5. I looked for JB ROM's for the phone but I don't see any. Is there any other forums that have a JB CDMA XT912 ROM?
6. What else should I expect when it comes to rooting this device?
THANKS in advance!
feered said:
I received my Razr today and I can't explain how much of a relief it is to own a half way decent phone. I was using the Thunderbolt and I can't begin to vent my frustration for that crappy device...
Anyway, I had some questions because I've noticed a few things that are slightly different in this device section on these forums... Hopefully some of you can clear the air.
1. I see there are some GSM and CDMA ROM's, so I am guessing the Razr isn't just for Verizon?
2. Is there anything I have to do prior to rooting my device? I heard the bootloader use to be locked and it required a lot of effort to get around it... I'm not sure if this is still the case or if someone has made a simple exploit to go around the loader.
3. What is the most popular method of rooting this device today? I see the EternityProject EasyRootICS 1.5 has a lot of views, would this be a good recommendation for rooting?
4. Sort of related to my last question, but I read awhile ago that the bootloader was unlocked but only one core worked. Is this still the case?
5. I looked for JB ROM's for the phone but I don't see any. Is there any other forums that have a JB CDMA XT912 ROM?
6. What else should I expect when it comes to rooting this device?
THANKS in advance!
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1. CDMA is for Verizon, GSM is for all the others.
2. Yes, the bootloader it locked, and as far as I'm aware, it still hasn't been able to be unlocked. It is very easy to root the device, actually. There are many threads with many different methods of rooting. Just search for them.
3. If it works, it works!
4. Not sure, I haven't heard that. But I could be wrong.
5. I have searched far and wide as well (including off of XDA) and haven't been able to find any stable ones suited for everyday use.
6. Not sure what you mean by this, but rooting unlocks many new features of this device that really help to unleash its full potential.
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I am no expert, I simply enjoy rooting pretty much everything I have relating to technology. Now, the Razr is an amazing phone, and BECAUSE its an amazing phone, I decided NOT to root it until a way to Unbrick became available. Well, that day came (A droidrzr dot come link), so of course, I rooted my Razr and installed the only rom I saw available for the VZW version. Here's the dilemma:
I am in no way making demands or trying to offend anyone, I simply have a question: Are there more ROMS coming out for the RAZR? I have seen all of the mods in these forums, I just have no need for them. I ask because the day my Evo 3D became 'rootable', about 4 or 5 ROMS rolled out right pretty much within hours, and while we DO have a custom ROM for the RAZR, umm...that's it. I appreciate the ROM, I have it installed, but supposedly the big deal was that there was no way to recover from an unbricked RAZR, and now there is, yet there's really no activity in the DEV section aside from people arguing about the locked bootloader.
Maybe I'm just ignorant and the fastboot files don't provide any help at all. I'll attribute that to what I said at the beginning, that I'm not an expert. I was just hoping someone could clarify because I literally check this forum twice a day hoping to see [ROM] at the beginning of a post and [CDMA] right next to it.
Thank you beforehand for any help or clarification!
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I am no expert, I simply enjoy rooting pretty much everything I have relating to technology. Now, the Razr is an amazing phone, and BECAUSE its an amazing phone, I decided NOT to root it until a way to Unbrick became available. Well, that day came (A droidrzr dot come link), so of course, I rooted my Razr and installed the only rom I saw available for the VZW version. Here's the dilemma:
I am in no way making demands or trying to offend anyone, I simply have a question: Are there more ROMS coming out for the RAZR? I have seen all of the mods in these forums, I just have no need for them. I ask because the day my Evo 3D became 'rootable', about 4 or 5 ROMS rolled out right pretty much within hours, and while we DO have a custom ROM for the RAZR, umm...that's it. I appreciate the ROM, I have it installed, but supposedly the big deal was that there was no way to recover from an unbricked RAZR, and now there is, yet there's really no activity in the DEV section aside from people arguing about the locked bootloader.
Maybe I'm just ignorant and the fastboot files don't provide any help at all. I'll attribute that to what I said at the beginning, that I'm not an expert. I was just hoping someone could clarify because I literally check this forum twice a day hoping to see [ROM] at the beginning of a post and [CDMA] right next to it.
Thank you beforehand for any help or clarification!
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easy answer
there's no real need of completely modded roms, and roms wich went out, are more optimization roms...
and... ics is on the way, think is a little useless, start thinking of making entire projects on gingerbread, knowing in a month we are going on a really different android version
True, true...but wasn't the ICS source/code already released? Or does it depend from device to device?
Hi all, just a quick intro. I am new to the Verizon/ Droid scene. I am picking up the Droid Razr today. I am coming from Sprint with an Evo. I have to say I am nervous about losing sense, but I am excited for how fast the Razr is going to seem. I know that even overclocked, my phone would not be able to hang with the speed of the new phone.
I have read a bit, but just wanted to get a round about for rooting (easiet way), which ROM's seem to be the most popular, kernel options? I noticed as of right now there is no ICS, but are there solid builds being played with right now?
I am sure there is plenty I am missing, but just wanted to say hi.
I appologize about the questions, but very little free time to do a lot of reading thus far.
Thanks in advance
Welcome to XDA.
First off, the RAZR has a locked bootloader. You can't flash kernels, only ROMS. There's a fairly large movement out there to get Moto/VZW to unlock our bootloaders but no results yet.
As for rooting, there are plenty of resources out there for 1-click rooting. So rooting isn't an issue, just make sure you get the right root program for your version.
As for ROMS, DroidTheory has some pretty nice ROMS and most are very stable.
Most of this information is in the forum, you just have to search for it.
Hope this helps!
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Welcome to XDA.
First off, the RAZR has a locked bootloader. You can't flash kernels, only ROMS. There's a fairly large movement out there to get Moto/VZW to unlock our bootloaders but no results yet.
As for rooting, there are plenty of resources out there for 1-click rooting. So rooting isn't an issue, just make sure you get the right root program for your version.
As for ROMS, DroidTheory has some pretty nice ROMS and most are very stable.
Most of this information is in the forum, you just have to search for it.
Hope this helps!
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Yes it does help, thanks. I will be doing plenty of reading for sure. Just a different beast really. Just strange seeing all the different developers on this side. Just because, like I said, came from sprint/HTC land.
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Well, welcome to the party. It's a whole new world. The RAZR is an incredible phone!
http://www.droidrzr dot com
That site has been extremely useful for me. I don't know if I am allowed to link so I made that odd thing there.
To demonstrate how useful it is I managed to get stuck on boot, search up a method for unbricking, enact the method, have the most terrified bathroom break of the new year and go back to stock all in under 24 minutes.
Absolutely none of that was an exaggeration.
So it took a bit. But at this time tomorrow I will finally be a Droid owner.
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http://www.droidrzr dot com
That site has been extremely useful for me. I don't know if I am allowed to link so I made that odd thing there.
To demonstrate how useful it is I managed to get stuck on boot, search up a method for unbricking, enact the method, have the most terrified bathroom break of the new year and go back to stock all in under 24 minutes.
Absolutely none of that was an exaggeration.
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I will look up the site for sure. Thanks
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Just a few questions guys:
I. I know bootloader is locked and all. But can you still root/are there good ROMs?
II. I see lots if ICS ROMs, are these legit or are they just themes. If so I'm curious, does it inlcude the touch keys? That'd be funky with 4 keys on the phone already xD.
III. How hard/easy is it to brick this phone?
IV. Overall, how's the Dev community? I have a Nexus and I'm not trying to compare but been on my 2nd GNexus already with no 4g in a strong 4g area (miami, florida) and I originally had a Razr Maxx but I traded it in for $35, starting to regret it, not for battery but for radios .
Thanks guys.
Go to droidrzr.com
The CDMA development is going strong over there. So far we have 3 different ICS roms as well as a few GB roms. The ICS roms do not have the touch screen buttons if that's what you're asking. Just the hard touch keys on the phone its self.
As for bricking.... I think we're pretty well safe as long as you follow the instructions for the roms you're installing. One thing you definitely need to download is the Droid razr utility. It can fastboot you back to .173 system if you mess up anything! As well as root you're phone, install bootstrap recovery, and perform many other functions.
CDMA development here is dead... Only GSM work going on here mostly.
ok thanks man
Anyone else, please share their experiences if you have tried the ICS ROMs.
Hi Everyone,
I know may be you don't like my thread's name, It is my opinion and I want to know your opinion.
The reason why I'm asking this, simply because I rooted my Razr XT910 to ICS and I really regret. You will tell me , unroot, sure I can do. But I want to pass my experience and to everyone cannot wait to root his Razr.
Ok my reasons are as follows:
1- If you are not very careful you simply can lose your phone
2-After rooting from 2.3.6 on Razr XT910 to ICS 4.0.4 and after the tension because of my mistake and was going to lose my Razr, I found the ICS very basic not much to add to UI. Meaning no widgets like contacts favourites and many others so simply you have to keep installing apps either free or buying not like the original 2.3.6.
3- Not fast as expected
4- No enough support for the Razr XT910 very minimal. Everything is for Droid Razr XT912. I did a mistake by installing a rom for Droid Razr and it blocked my phone and I had to use RSD to install SBF.
5- Themes are very poor
Again guys this is a personal opinion, just wanted to share it with you and to think twice before rooting you Razr XT910
My ROM is Razr-AOKP-GSM-J.Y.Daddy
BTW, I tried Eternity project for Razr XT910 and I got Installation aborted message and again no help in its thread how to overcome the issue
There is more to rooting a phone then just install roms.
Some programs need root to give all the benefits they have, like Rootbrowser, System tuner Pro and SetCPU.
With a rooted phone I can set my cpu level during day, work hours and night.
I can freeze and unfreeze bloatware, make backups and optimize my phone as I like to with or without a rom.
That's why I got it rooted.
Mataraty said:
There is more to rooting a phone then just install roms.
Some programs need root to give all the benefits they have, like Rootbrowser, System tuner Pro and SetCPU.
With a rooted phone I can set my cpu level during day, work hours and night.
I can freeze and unfreeze bloatware, make backups and optimize my phone as I like to with or without a rom.
That's why I got it rooted.
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Great thanks for sharing. To add more benefits for everybody why don't you add more explanations on how to do these things.
The current ICS roms are built for GB kernel.. Pretty impressive really..
Also wrong section
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FrAsErTaG said:
The current ICS roms are built for GB kernel.. Pretty impressive really..
Also wrong section
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First of all, thanks for your help earlier you saved my phone from crashing.
Second, I thought the development section is the proper one to discuss rooting matter. Or what do you think?
In addition, how many stable roms are out there for XT910 same like yours. Please mention some.
Thanks
flupo2000 said:
First of all, thanks for your help earlier you saved my phone from crashing.
Second, I thought the development section is the proper one to discuss rooting matter. Or what do you think?
In addition, how many stable roms are out there for XT910 same like yours. Please mention some.
Thanks
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No, that belongs in the General section. If you want to discuss a rooting that you did in the Development section, then you would comment on the thread where you received your information for the ROM you chose to place on your phone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344531
....Wow, just wow. *palm to forehead*
@flupo: You have a rogers razr, I'm guessing, which is why you can't get the leak. Give it time, you'll get real ics. Really can't believe you felt the need to make a thread about this lol.
I have the Rogers Razr as well and I'm running J Daddy's custom CM9. Works very well as a daily driver. I don't have a need for bluetooth and I can live without the video recording function. All users understand that these builds are in development and do not provide all the functions flawlessly. So your only options are to wait for an official build from Motorola or hope that somehow a bootloader bypass/unlock comes around that will allow us to use the kernel+radio from the Chinese/European ICS and have a ROM that is more streamlined than the current development builds.
Rooting is not the same as installing a ROM. Updating from GB to ICS is installing a new ROM which has absolutely nothing to do with "Root" in most situations.
Root is the Linux way of saying Admin Account. With "root" access to a phone, you literally have permission to do anything you want, install anything you want, remove anything you want, and run anything even if it requires permissions that are normally rejected on a unrooted phone.
Apps that require root that I use on a regular basis: TitaniumBackup, AdFree, Terminal Emulator, WiFi Tether, and ES File Explorer. There are many others. None of these have anything to do with installing ICS or not.
Your thread title is misleading and it is in the wrong forum. Developers create threads in the Development section, only. You can reply to one of their threads if appropriate, but to create a new discussion on something it should be in General.
You should read through a lot more threads, ask questions in the general section, and generally understand a lot more before you start trying to modify your phone like this. That should be the warning you tell people. People shouldn't just jump in and start modifying their phone's OS until they know what OS, Root, ROM, and a bunch of other terms mean and what they do.
Lol.I have a galaxy nexus i root the day i got it,i also have a Droid razr maxx that I haven't root yet.Thanks for this thread I'm diff not going to root now.
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Wrong section.
Root 'n rool!
lol
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Dont tell people not to root when your not knowledgable on this stuff
Ohh Canadians, Canadians.....
pedrotorresfilho said:
Wrong section.
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Wrong topic :-D
Everyone remember that guy in class that would stand up in the front of class and tell everyone not to do something because it was "wrong?" even though he didn't even know why himself?
This thread actually happened...
this thread was brought to you by an educational system somewhere on THIS planet. We're sorry.
Lmfao^^^^^^
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Read carefully and thoroughly and you won't have a problem. Rush in and flash the first file you find and you'll quickly end up with a brick. Getting the most out of any device requires an investment time-wise, and if you're not prepared to make that investment you shouldn't be flashing anything.
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Thanks for sharing
Obviously from most of your comments, I did a mistake by making such a question in this section. Sorry about that but I thought it is the right one where people read about rooting.
Second, These are my previous smartphone list which I did rooting for all of them and it went fine with no crashes:
HTC Tytn 2
Sony Ericson Experia
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Diamond 1 and 2
HTC HD
HTC HD2
HTC Desire
So may be from the above you can see guys that I have some experience in rooting and I read a lot about it.
The reason for my thread was to raise the issue that there is no enough support for the great Razr especially XT910. As per Motorola support team whom I discussed with, the upgrade from GB to ICS is in the planing phase and might take about another 3-4 months.
Any how I tried to do that to see if I can solve the issue for having ICS on XT910 or not before selling it and go back to HTC with HTC One X.
Last, it will be great to have a professional forum that has talented people respect each other not like the respectable person whom said "ohh Canadians Canadians"
Everyone of those phones you listed are HTC devices including the Sony Ericson.
That's probably why you stuffed up because this is not a HTC device. Not to mention the majority are native windows mobile phones..
Do you know some one named planetone?
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Hello Xda,
I'm a new owner of a european XT910.
Former owner of a Nexus S.
What's with these Motorolas ? Everything seems very confusing...
1.Locked bootloader...
2.Specific fastboot needed to flash specific roms ?
3.What about recovery mode ? Backup's not working, storage mounting not working..
I will soon post a screenshot of my system's info.
I really think there should be a FAQ thread discussing all matters from CDMA-GSM differences, to different fastboots the phones are shipped with and how to get started on software modification on these babies.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
Millions are in the forum but few are willing to get further in developing.
Lets help someone (like me) who wants to understand the pyramid of modding and developing on this phone e.g.
Hi new guy. It's very simple. All of the information can be found on the forums, as well as using google. If you can't be bothered to do a simple search, or read through stuff, then don't root your phone.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
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And besides, noobs can have the phone. Just don't root your phone, and come crying in the forums when something goes wrong, cause you don't bother reading up beforehand.
SoulStripper66 said:
Hello Xda,
I'm a new owner of a european XT910.
Former owner of a Nexus S.
What's with these Motorolas ? Everything seems very confusing...
1.Locked bootloader...
2.Specific fastboot needed to flash specific roms ?
3.What about recovery mode ? Backup's not working, storage mounting not working..
I will soon post a screenshot of my system's info.
I really think there should be a FAQ thread discussing all matters from CDMA-GSM differences, to different fastboots the phones are shipped with and how to get started on software modification on these babies.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
Millions are in the forum but few are willing to get further in developing.
Lets help someone (like me) who wants to understand the pyramid of modding and developing on this phone e.g.
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Sounds like it would have made more sense to get answers to those questions prior to your purchase.
Great phone, locked down.
Welcome to the forums!
As i already stated, the droid razr is a great phone but is locked down with motos iron fist.
I purchased at launch in canada and was happy... was happy. Untill i started to see the news of the locked bootloader and other issues. Ive been a fan of moto phones since my first v3x and was pleasntly surprised to see an update to the line.
Like was said earlier, its been 6 months since launch and you probably should have done the research, but not everyone has the insight to do deep research about their next phone beyond the physical specs.
That said, moto has locked this thing down and unless you really need more than root its a whole different horse to ride when compared to others like htc, lg and samsung.
Moto basically marketed this thing as a business phone for the fashion crowd. And it is. A slim and fast, solidly built android powered guchi handbag. Not much more.
This is a disappointment. And one we are going to have to live with or find a device that's more friendly to the feint of heart.
Eun-Hjzjined said:
Welcome to the forums!
As i already stated, the droid razr is a great phone but is locked down with motos iron fist.
I purchased at launch in canada and was happy... was happy. Untill i started to see the news of the locked bootloader and other issues. Ive been a fan of moto phones since my first v3x and was pleasntly surprised to see an update to the line.
Like was said earlier, its been 6 months since launch and you probably should have done the research, but not everyone has the insight to do deep research about their next phone beyond the physical specs.
That said, moto has locked this thing down and unless you really need more than root its a whole different horse to ride when compared to others like htc, lg and samsung.
Moto basically marketed this thing as a business phone for the fashion crowd. And it is. A slim and fast, solidly built android powered guchi handbag. Not much more.
This is a disappointment. And one we are going to have to live with or find a device that's more friendly to the feint of heart.
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Now that I disagree with. A locked bootloader is undesirable, admittedly, but there's still tons of things you can do with the Razr. Custom ROMs? Check. Custom governor? Check. Custom I/O scheduler? Check. Overclock/underclock/undervolt? Check. I have all the above on my Razr. (Except for the governor, doesn't seem to work on Gummy)
Don't get me wrong. I wish Moto would unlock our bootloaders as well, but ultimately, what we are suffering from is a lack of developers. Kholk, kejar, J.Y.Daddy are doing their best, but how many things can they push out? Especially since the Razr isn't their dedicated phone.
The Razr is a good phone, don't let one single locked bootloader ruin the whole package. Although honestly, given the chance to change phones, I would (who wouldn't want the HTC One X?). But really, there are tons of things you can do with your phone as it is.
Most people here misunderstood me.
Asking nooby questions does not make one a noob.
I've been a computer programmer for years and I would like to contribute in the RAZR development, though I do not know how to start cause I was only mid-to-advanced user of mobile phones.
All I needed is someone to show me the way on this motorola. I'm not trying to make myself tiring to you though most people here should learn to show some respect and not snub people who ask.
As for "Searching" the forums, since the RAZR development is going slow, forum threads are also cruising at a low speed. So do not blame me for asking something that is not very clear to most "common" RAZR users and owners.
Friendly as hell.
Spectral1991 said:
Now that I disagree with. A locked bootloader is undesirable, admittedly, but there's still tons of things you can do with the Razr. Custom ROMs? Check. Custom governor? Check. Custom I/O scheduler? Check. Overclock/underclock/undervolt? Check. I have all the above on my Razr. (Except for the governor, doesn't seem to work on Gummy)
Don't get me wrong. I wish Moto would unlock our bootloaders as well, but ultimately, what we are suffering from is a lack of developers. Kholk, kejar, J.Y.Daddy are doing their best, but how many things can they push out? Especially since the Razr isn't their dedicated phone.
The Razr is a good phone, don't let one single locked bootloader ruin the whole package. Although honestly, given the chance to change phones, I would (who wouldn't want the HTC One X?). But really, there are tons of things you can do with your phone as it is.
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Spectral thanks for joining this conversation. I've done a lot of research and already know that custom roms, governors and over/underclocking is possible.
Though it seems that device software differs from one phone to the other and I can't make up the differences. Maybe someone should start a thread regarding different Fastboots and to which devices they are installed to for example.
hi OP,
have u seen the Development forum? not the General forum.
there are tons of info to answer ur questions (sorry im not as capable) there. so u dont even need to search. just see the titles.
good luck.