Will you buy the next Evo? - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

Me personally probably won't I have grown tired of HTC and their dicking around when it comes to updates and pain in the ass s-off methods and new hboots
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Me personally probably won't I have grown tired of HTC and their dicking around when it comes to updates and pain in the ass s-off methods and new hboots
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i dont know i will need to see what type of features the new evos will have... and i think htc have one of the best hardware out in the market....
HTC EVO LTE

i will, i like my evo 4g lte and i think when sprint lte roll out is finally done it will be great also. if i did switch though it would be to try windows phone like what they are doing lately but no other android for me but htc evo's unless they just stop making them

With the rate HTC is doing as a company, I don't know
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I probably will, I've enjoyed all of my past EVO phones more than not.
If not for XDA (And others) I wouldn't have stayed EVO.
Never going/considering Nexus until they get 64GB models. No thanks to Matias Duarte's omission of essential expansion.
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It's either a really good EVO or I'm thinking about going back to Windows.. In cruise control with the EVO LTE at the moment.. The note had me wanting to switch at 1st but I let the hype die down and I think I'll just ride it out till Sprint gets some Good windows 8 phones or drops a monster EVO.
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Genjinaro said:
I probably will, I've enjoyed all of my past EVO phones more than not.
If not for XDA (And others) I wouldn't have stayed EVO.
Never going/considering Nexus until they get 64GB models. No thanks to Matias Duarte's omission of essential expansion.
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64? You wont consider a nexus without 64gb... what do you need all that space for? Im wondering because i only use a couple gigs. I have a lot of pictures and some music that take up 90% of the couple gigs i use, i mostly stream my music and all my movies. pictures/videos dont take up much space unless you take pictures and video of everything, and you can always link a box/dropbox account to auto upload the stuff and then delete it from your sd/device. I know games take up some space but idk how much. I work too much and have a family so i dont play anything.

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64? You wont consider a nexus without 64gb... what do you need all that space for? Im wondering because i only use a couple gigs. I have a lot of pictures and some music that take up 90% of the couple gigs i use, i mostly stream my music and all my movies. pictures/videos dont take up much space unless you take pictures and video of everything, and you can always link a box/dropbox account to auto upload the stuff and then delete it from your sd/device. I know games take up some space but idk how much. I work too much and have a family so i dont play anything.
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I use mine for music mostly
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The only thing that can keep me away from the next evo is a lack of sd card slot. Keep that and htc has my loyalty. I can deal with the slow updates, because I love sense, and the build quality.
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Might be the first Evo that I don't buy. HTC just isn't the same.
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64? You wont consider a nexus without 64gb... what do you need all that space for? Im wondering because i only use a couple gigs. I have a lot of pictures and some music that take up 90% of the couple gigs i use, i mostly stream my music and all my movies. pictures/videos dont take up much space unless you take pictures and video of everything, and you can always link a box/dropbox account to auto upload the stuff and then delete it from your sd/device. I know games take up some space but idk how much. I work too much and have a family so i dont play anything.
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Music, Games, Files & Apps.
I do love the cloud but living in the city / northeast I can't rely on it to carry the weight of my mobile experience everywhere.
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The superior build quality of htc is amazing, as well as the sense camera will always keep me loyal to them

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Me personally probably won't I have grown tired of HTC and their dicking around when it comes to updates and pain in the ass s-off methods and new hboots
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+1. If I could get the Note 2 right now somehow without paying $400+ I probably would. Getting kinda bored and the note 2 is gorgeous.
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I think this will be my last one. I have had the original evo, evo 3D, and now the lte and have nothing but hardware issues. Mainly with digitizers. But the main reason is the slow updates of operating systems. My next phone will be a Samsung.

I defnately will for one simple reason. If you look at the quality is of my HTC evo 4g and at a phone just coming out ala nexus 4....the evo benchmarks better out the box and that's with sense. My performance is still on par with phones being released 5 months after I bought it. That's pretty good.
BTW...the us version of the HTC J is coming soon . That is what I call and upgrade.
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Genjinaro said:
I probably will, I've enjoyed all of my past EVO phones more than not.
If not for XDA (And others) I wouldn't have stayed EVO.
Never going/considering Nexus until they get 64GB models. No thanks to Matias Duarte's omission of essential expansion.
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I bought the galaxy nexus and had that for a couple of weeks great phone but no SD kills me too I probably would consider getting another nexus if its 32 GB+
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If its build by HTC no way in hell will I ever
cm10ed 3VO

The next one? Probably not, as I will probably still be under contract with this one. The one after that (if there is one) I'll take a close look at. Been very happy with the build quality of my EVOs, less so with Sprint's network. If LTE comes close to the hype I'll be satisified.

No, but only because Sprint's network will likely still hold it back. I miss my EVO, but I don't miss Sprint.
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I regret not getting a Galaxy 3 this time around.

You guys are making me stare at my device and question it. Why why why.
As to the question about why someone would need so much storage, for me, nandroid backups are the biggest user of space.
Nexus' are great, and I'm really tiring of HTC bs bootloader shenanigans, but love the look and build quality. I don't like sense, though (though much better than TW) so I use AOKP/CM/PA, etc.
hurled from my AOKP'd Evo LTE. Enjoy.

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Honestly was the Evo3d worth getting?

I have always been HTC lover. Since the pp6700 I had every htc flagship smartphone. True they were not perfect, which was why I ditched my evo for epic.
Better in a lot of ways but has problems of it's own. Ended up hating the galaxy as well. Well I wanted to come back to htc before catching wind of the S2
But I see in this forum of many build quality problems well scattered thought the device. Seems rushed product? Seems more faults then epic and evo together when released.
Just wanted to know what others feel.
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Its definitely worth it if you get a good one. People act like its such a huge request to look at the phone prior to leaving the sprint store... If there is something wrong with the one they bring you, just tell them you want a different one.
I'm happy with mine. Even with my monocular vision.
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One of the cardinal rules of online research is to not judge a product by its forums. People who are satisfied with a product rarely post about it.
I love my Evo 3D. Build quality is perfect and Im putting my OG Evo on ebay this weekend.
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Yup. If you don't like it, take it back.
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hayabusa1300cc said:
I have always been HTC lover. Since the pp6700 I had every htc flagship smartphone. True they were not perfect, which was why I ditched my evo for epic.
Better in a lot of ways but has problems of it's own. Ended up hating the galaxy as well. Well I wanted to come back to htc before catching wind of the S2
But I see in this forum of many build quality problems well scattered thought the device. Seems rushed product? Seems more faults then epic and evo together when released.
Just wanted to know what others feel.
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I am on my second device (EVO 3D). I killed the first because I did a drunken swim (lil drunk right now in case this post doesn't make much sense ) and forgot it was in my pocket. The first had 1 dead pixel, only noticible when using an app to look for them and even then, I was the only one of the 3 people I asked who could actually see it. Other than that, the build quality on both phones has been outstanding. IMHO those who complain, for the most part, are those who would complain about just about anything and are looking for things to ***** about. The 3D is superior to the OG EVO in every way (with the exception of root). Is it the difference I had from my old Touch Diamond to my OG EVO, no, absolutely not. It is an evolutionary improvement with the added feature of 3D. I think the build quality of the 3D is night-and-day better than the build quality of the OG EVO, but that's just my opinion. Is it worth getting? I wouldn't go back to my old EVO, the decision is really to each his/her own.
I'm happy with mine too... Just that it lags pretty bad when scrolling in the market and some apps.... But I guess could be fixed by a update.
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This is definitely an upgrade to my old EVO by a longshot. Is it perfect? No. Is it worth getting? Yes.
Sense 3.0 at its best, Camera is better, shutter button is a welcome addition, the screen is better, Stock speed is faster than EVO rooted, the graphics WOW, 1Gig RAM, a gig of UA storage & the 3D is fun as hell. It's one core alone is better & it has 2 of them. Most of the developers from the EVO 4G will develop for the EVO 3D.
I can cry about it not having permanent root but that's just a matter of patience.
You have 30 days to make that call for yourself, you might feel differently or even better about it.
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Its definitely worth it if you get a good one. People act like its such a huge request to look at the phone prior to leaving the sprint store... If there is something wrong with the one they bring you, just tell them you want a different one.
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+1
best thing ever, ofcourse not as good as her.
I have no problems with mine. I really enjoy this phone, even unrooted its far beyond my epic, and is every bit as responsive as the ns4g
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This has to be the best phone i ever used... 3d movies are amazing
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Nope it blows ass don't get it.. get the sgs2 the most beastful flip mode squad gangsta fast phone on the planet
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This has to be the best phone i ever used... 3d movies are amazing
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What bigd said. I just took a video of my saltwater aquarium and it is mid boggling how beautiful the 3D effect is. On top of that this thing blows away my Nexus One hands down. May not be the best benchmark scorer, but it does what I want it to do and it does it very well!
Evo 3d > *
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What bigd said. I just took a video of my saltwater aquarium and it is mid boggling how beautiful the 3D effect is. On top of that this thing blows away my Nexus One hands down. May not be the best benchmark scorer, but it does what I want it to do and it does it very well!
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How abt a drop box link. I would like to see it...
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hayabusa1300cc said:
I have always been HTC lover. Since the pp6700 I had every htc flagship smartphone. True they were not perfect, which was why I ditched my evo for epic.
Better in a lot of ways but has problems of it's own. Ended up hating the galaxy as well. Well I wanted to come back to htc before catching wind of the S2
But I see in this forum of many build quality problems well scattered thought the device. Seems rushed product? Seems more faults then epic and evo together when released.
Just wanted to know what others feel.
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Great phone, blows away my EVO4G. Honestly, if you ditched the EVO for the EPIC, this probably isn't the phone for you!
Thanks!
Mature people here. I got used to the samsung side of xda lol.
See a lot of nonbiased replies. And I agree with a lot that was said here.
I do have my eyes out for the S2, but I will definitely take advantage of the 30day grace period and take the 3d for a spin.
I'm intrigued at the thought of taking 3d porn lol honestly anyone try it?? Hehe
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Definitely worth it for me. I had my Evo 4G for less than a year, sold it for $240, and got the full upgrade price of $199 so it cost me nothing extra except one extra year on contract to get a better new phone.
I love the Evo 3D. And anyone who b*tches about it all the time cuz their screen is a lil bit yellow instead of white, or they got shipped with kingston instead of scan or w/e can just take it back n get the samsung instead and let the rest of us actually enjoy this beast. It's one of the best phones out there and the only 3D phone that is worth buying and that 3D feature got me laid, so STOP b*tchin. Not aimed at the thread starter.
Yep
Bussin Caps n 3D

Hello

Hey guys, I let go of my former Nexus S 4G for an EVO 3D today. I'm from the Nexus S section, but this forum will be my new spot. This is a good phone.
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We have amazing devs here. Welcome and play nice
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Welcome. While some will say our 3D is a gimmick, I say once the iPhone adds 3D it will be all the rage. I love watching movies and videos in 3D. Here's one that will make you go "oh sh*t!".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foQNrtUsEjw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
- Ken
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From what I seen of the video, that looked cool. Really looked like his hands were coming out the screen. It may be called a gimmick but it seems cool. This is a nice phone. I have to get it rooted. All my previous Android phones were rooted.
Edit: Crazy video.
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Why the switch from the Nexus S? Doesn't have the same amount of horsepower as the 3D but it can also get the latest updates from Google (i.e. Jelly Bean)?
The 3D has more muscle, but the Nexus S is no slouch. I maybe can understand now why some say they will only get Nexus phones though. I made a Craigslist posting about trading sometime back, and yesterday someone offered a 3D so i took advantage. A wack thing about this phone is not the phone itself but how long Sprint is taking to drop the ICS update when Jellybean is around the corner. But I'm the type to root anyway. Either phone has its perks, it seems that even though the Nexus S is not latest and greatest, after having a non Nexus, it seems like the NS phones still have some type of relevence. I maybe wanted more power etc. The NS also doesn't have expandable storage. This phone shouldn't be overlooked, its a strong phone. If only I knew Android development? Lol
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From what I seen of the video, that looked cool. Really looked like his hands were coming out the screen. It may be called a gimmick but it seems cool. This is a nice phone. I have to get it rooted. All my previous Android phones were rooted.
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I loved my EVO 3D. Unfortunately, I have this habit of just buying the newest thing out... So I bought the EVO 4G LTE. My wife has my EVO 3D now. If they made the new EVO in 3D, I would've bought it still.
Speaking of... could we get a roll-up sticky for hellos as well as goodbyes?

Google Now

Anyone play with Google Now? Just watched day 1 of Google IO, and it looks exciting.
On a different note, do you think HTC can really pass us up with Jellybean? The only thing I can think of is Sprint doesn't want to bother? Just like the 3D.
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If support for such a new flagship device is haulted already, then I quit.
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If support for such a new flagship device is haulted already, then I quit.
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I really love my EVO lte, but the fact it was left out of the upgrade list, when it's the best of the One series, is disconcerting. I've been watching how they handle the 3D upgrade, and it seems to be following the same path.
Even Samsung has figured out the importance of taking care of their flagship device.
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Who said its out of the upgrade list? Relax fellas. You're getting worked up over nothing.
We'll get it in august kinda like the og evo and froyo
Unlike the one series, which are HTC's flagship, the evo lte is sprints flagship. The update may take slightly longer due to the carriers interference, but the development for the phones will most likely be in parallel. Its not HTC's gig to really announce updates for it months in advance, their Job is to support and develop for it, while sprint takes care of all PR's and announcements.
Sprint would never in a million years not update the evo lte, they're just being quiet because that's how carriers do business. Once they are close, we should hear an announcement
Been playing with Google Now for a few days now on my LTE. It works... but seems a little slow as compared to the search capabilities that came stock. It also keeps on updating me with how long it is going to get home. I guess it wants me to leave work REALLY bad. LOL!
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We'll get it in august kinda like the og evo and froyo
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Or, the one x will get it and we can surely flash that rom with minimal tweaks.
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Been playing with Google Now for a few days now on my LTE. It works... but seems a little slow as compared to the search capabilities that came stock. It also keeps on updating me with how long it is going to get home. I guess it wants me to leave work REALLY bad. LOL!
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How can I get this on my EVO LTE
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How can I get this on my EVO LTE
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See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
It's pretty cool.
Noiro said:
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
It's pretty cool.
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Thanks I'll go look at it
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I've been playing with jb and Google now for an hour or so on my Xoom. I'm really digging the voice recognition, but just starting to play with the whole card setup. I think it is going to be a big hit when it finally rolls put to more people.

Your thoughts on 3d

Decided to start this to start this to see if many people actually care about it considering that its not the best 3d out there. I know devs work super hard on getting all features on the great ROMs they bring us to feed our flashing addiction lol so by no means am I bashing or anything like that. Just curious to see how many ppl are crazy about it 3d.
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Are you referring to our phone (as one of its nicknames is 3d) or the feature?
If your referring to the phone than I love it, while the 3d has gone through its rough times development has picked up and is amazing. At least for cdma (I don't really go into gsm). Because of our awsome devs I kept my 3d instead of buying out my contract and moving on.
If your referring to the feature than in my opinion its a gimmick. I used it for like a week to show it off but that was it. There are rare occasions that I show it off but it's not anything I really care for anymore. I've pretty much moved away from sense and the ability to use 3d.
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Yes I'm refering to the feature the actuall device is great and all the development that has recently emerged IS AMAZING! I sold my GSII to buy this Evo right before ICS update and I gotta say at first I was a bit disappointed (mainly cuz of all the freeze/reboot issues) but after rooting and non stop flashing I couldn't be happier. My thing is that Im sure devs spend a ton of their time working on it but do the benefits really outweigh the time spent?
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I'm CDMA by the way
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I have the GSM version and as far as development, whoa this week saved me from upgrading, I love my Evo, fast, sturdy, right size screen although I couldn't care less about actual 3d camera, as previously stated, it's a gimmick. We have so many jb aosp, cm10 roms, just can't seem to justify the upgrade now. I would also miss all the flaming wars and antics from this forum, at least I have something to replace hockey for the moment
( Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh! )
Haha yup I want Evo 4g lte but same here because of all the great devs here I'm in no rush to upgrade at all
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3D is at the bottom of my list when it comes to features in a Rom. It was interesting to try when I first got the phone but that was about it
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Amazing phone because of the amazing devs. They have been giving lot of love lately. Plus when I play avatar in full sbs on my phone and people see it.... The look on their faces is like a troll drooling. Haha...
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3d was on the bottom of my list
i only bought this phone cause it was cheap and a decent CPU/GPU/RAM and had removable battery and microSD storage for my 32GB class 10 card i already owned.
3D though won me over a bit - it did some nice shots - its a massive gimmick but I think its a shame it hasnt been picked up much.
i sadly dont have a 3d tv or anything so my phone is the only way to show images off.
I actually really want a Nexus4 now too - so bit of a tough decision - if HTC released Jellybean for this Evo3D then I'd probably stick with it another six months or so
as it stands I am sorely tempted by the cheap price of the Nexus4 and the fact that google will support it!
Evo3d is my second htc phone although it has very good specs my next phone won't be htc anymore due to htc development policy. Actually all of the android phones have the same problem a bit but when my evo3d dies i will buy a nexus no matter what
I consider the 3D to be a massive gimmick but in all fairness its a good show-off
with the right 3D video your friends can get blown away. Showed it to a friend of mine and now he wants a 3vo too.
BUT.. being an AOSP lover like me you wont get 3D to show off. Its a damn shame when your friends say "why the eff did you buy a 3D phone when you arent gonna use it for the 3D"
im like [-_-] _|_
I can give a link to avatar qhd sbs if you guys want. Looks really amazing. The picture taking is really a headache though.
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I used it to take a few 3d drunk shots and videos and havent touched it since. It isn't a necessary feature for me and I don't think I'll use it ever again if it comes to JB.
Yeah same here I'm not sure if it's just my device but it really just looks like I'm seeing double so the 3d is useless to me. It would be cool if they could incorporate another cool feature into the 3d switch instead
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i have been tryin alot of roms....paranoid android is really awesome u guys! i think the 3d is one of the most fun devices i've ever owed. when i get lte in my area i'm prolly gonna stick w HTC and get a 4g LTE!
some of the construction job photo's Ive taken with 3d from top of cranes and scissor lifts, have freaked people out.
I'd probably use 3d once a week if not more.
I base my decision on hardware specs, if HTC make it too hard to get s-off then I will go elsewhere for my phones.
But they shouldn't remove it either, need something to save the idiots from themselves
It is cool initially and to show other people. I get a lot of great wow responses but day to day, at least for me it is pretty much useless. I'd rather have a single camera lens and a thinner phone
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i have been tryin alot of roms....paranoid android is really awesome u guys! i think the 3d is one of the most fun devices i've ever owed. when i get lte in my area i'm prolly gonna stick w HTC and get a 4g LTE!
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In my opinion PA is the best rom out. It has a couple minor glitches but nothing that can't be looked past lol. By far the most options available for customizing.
Just hope there's a PA coming for evo 4g lte cuz I'm getting one soon...
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For me 3d is just a nice gadget to show off, and etc, but watchin 3d movies in the bus (when u must sit in bus for 8 hours) are great.
it's a nice feature but i don't often use it...but if the iphone had this option i think the apple fanboys would brag all day about this :laugh:

How many people like The HTC one

I'm curiously wondering how many of you xda a developers users, actually like the new HTC One? Personally I like the design, features such as the stereo speakers that are on the front and the new design of the back. I don't really know how I would like sense 5 considering sense 4 on Viper ROM 3.1 .0 is actually really really good so give me your thoughts
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I like the back. Not a big fan of the speakers but I bet they do sound good. Nice specs but if Sprint gets it and changes it like they did the One X then it'll make me disappointed I just got this one.
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I like it. I'd get one if it wasn't for the change in the captive buttons. Whoever thought of that idea needs to be smacked upside the head.
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I'm getting One
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I have to agree with the statements about the design on the rear, but i seriously hate the movement of the capacitive buttons. that killed me. Also, the new sense 5 better not look like it did in the photos, i will not buy a sense device that mimics windows phone.
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I have to agree with the statements about the design on the rear, but i seriously hate the movement of the capacitive buttons. that killed me. Also, the new sense 5 better not look like it did in the photos, i will not buy a sense device that mimics windows phone.
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Oh it does, unfortunately. If we wanted a windows phone, we would have got one. SMH
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Oh it does, unfortunately. If we wanted a windows phone, we would have got one. SMH
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Personally, and i probably will get flamed by this, but if they leave it that way, im going to the Samsung side.
I like the hardware but I really hate the new sense. I'll pass it and see what improvement htc gonna make in the next device plus I have to wait my upgrade in Mar 2014
EVO 4G LTE HB 2.09 S-OFF
My wife isn't big on phones, as long as she can talk, text, and use the internet she's fine, she has her upgrade now so I'll be getting it and giving her my evo and if I don't like it I'll just switch back and give her the "one", and she has my og evo so I'll send that to htc for $100
If the one stays the same with the other carriers I'm looking forward to see how the development will go.
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You guys do know there well be an option to disable that Windows phonelike home screen right?
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You guys do know there well be an option to disable that Windows phonelike home screen right?
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^ this
You just swipe left and you have the normal sense homescreen or disable that feature
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i like the htc one. i wouldnt mind getting it but im satisfied with my ltevo
i do like the "ultrapixel" camera tho. would be cool to have it and brag about it lol
I usually preorder my phones so I can have it on release day but this time I will wait to see if multitasking is back. If HTC disables this core function of Android again I will be going with another manufacture. Its ridiculous that if I am looking at a web page then check a text message then go back to the browser the page has to reload. I find this very infuriating, especially with all the power this phone is packing. Sense 5 doesn't look promising with the live tiles. Judging from the last couple of sense versions this release will be throw together also and won't be able to handle this new feature without studdering and serious lag.
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It's ok... The best thing is the speakers... All phones speakers should face you... It just makes sense. But other that I don't see anything special about compared to the new up coming phones. By the time up ready for a upgrade at the end of the year there will be some very good phones on the market.
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the phone is a beast! i think that everyone here will love it. the speakers sounds awesome and are insanely loud. the camera speaks for itself as does the display. The HTC ONE - Everything Your Phone Isn'tâ„¢ -
Deathsnuggle said:
You guys do know there well be an option to disable that Windows phonelike home screen right?
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So are the windows essentially just widgets u could add to the screen?
I'm really drawn to the hd screen, extra ram, and extra storage. I also really love HTC's camera software.
The one drawback is the apparent lack of mSD expansion. As a systems engineer, I carry enough gear with me, so I often use my phone at job sites, carrying suites of software tools, ISOs, etc. That's in addition to the usual books, music, etc. So not having more than 64gb of storage that doesn't rely on the cloud will be a PitA (all too often, I'm in reception blackholes).
I know it'll come in 32 and 64gb flavors, but I really hate paying the premium for higher storage capacity consumption devices/phones.
If the Evo flavor ever does come to fruition, I have to hope that it comes with a microSD slot. Further, if it is released, I'll hold off getting one. I'm pretty happy with the 4g LTE and the price will drop in like 3 months anyway.
I'm in the same boat as you, I like having expandable storage. I can't always rely on cloud services. It's actually quite a debate. Some people like to flame others for wanting an sd card slot. I don't get it. Since I use my phone for work, mp3 player, and camera, the more storage I can get the better. I don't always have data and life is too busy too constantly swap what I have in my storage.
I tend to agree with many of the points raised here. Lack of external storage is rough, as is losing the kickstand. Also, while the new camera has better low light, i think 4MP is too low to allow for cropping. I'd have preferred a camera as good as Lumia 920.
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polar2792 said:
I like the back. Not a big fan of the speakers but I bet they do sound good. Nice specs but if Sprint gets it and changes it like they did the One X then it'll make me disappointed I just got this one.
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sprint wont be changing the phone or even the name to have evo in it, it will be the same as all other phone companies ones ( goodbye evo ):crying:

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