I can't figure which area to post this- WP8 or Android since it has to do with both of them..
I figure since WP8 supports multiple cores up to 64 cores, and the Note 2 runs Android already, and they have a Samsung WP8 phone...
Maybe someone could come up with a way to have the Galaxy Note 2 dual boot the stock Android ROM, and WP8.
Is anyone working on something like this? That would be Something Else, because I like to look of Android but I also like the connectivity of WP8 with my W8 PC.
Just a thought...
jamz2277 said:
I can't figure which area to post this- WP8 or Android since it has to do with both of them..
I figure since WP8 supports multiple cores up to 64 cores, and the Note 2 runs Android already, and they have a Samsung WP8 phone...
Maybe someone could come up with a way to have the Galaxy Note 2 dual boot the stock Android ROM, and WP8.
Is anyone working on something like this? That would be Something Else, because I like to look of Android but I also like the connectivity of WP8 with my W8 PC.
Just a thought...
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You probably won't find much here on XDA since WP8 is copyrighted by Microsoft and licensed for the devices it comes stock on. The HD2 was the only device to run both since it came with windows mobile and Android was open source so it Legally could run both.
Though I'm sure it would be awesome to have both on the Note II, and may run on it also, I don't think XDA will allow it here. Sorry.
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just a thought...
There could be a secret wp8 hacking coalition and have them congregate on the darknet. Lol. Thank you for the reply!
jamz2277 said:
There could be a secret wp8 hacking coalition and have them congregate on the darknet. Lol. Thank you for the reply!
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If you really wanted to find out more info, I'd search for Cotulla and his work, you can also find him on IRC, if it can be done, he'd know how to do it.
WP8 is a closed source like iOS. And it cannot be ported to another device.
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Let this be just discussion first...
So today was the Windows Phone 7 announcement and a lot of new devices were announced including the HTC 7 Mozart:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-and-7-trophy-set-out-to-conquer-the-wp7-world-7-pr/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-first-hands-on/
Pretty similar hardware and look to our Desire... I know it's early now but do you think that we will be able to port Windows Phone 7 to our Desire? Just for fun... Android is good enough.
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Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Devs here have made wonders, and I think I saw a dev here running WP 7 on an HD 2....
I think we only need some sort of a bootloader... as the hardware is pretty similar it should boot and some parts should work.
I'm also more than satisfied with Android, but hey... as a geek, dual booting my smartphone does have some appeal
Seems unlikely. One of the biggest problems with pouring android to a wm phone is that some of the drivers are in the radio rom and that is closed. So a huge among of work goes into figuring out how to talk to the hardware then coding that into the linux kernel source. In the case of wp7, there will be no source code at all, just binaries. Without haret and debug information, there is no way to start other than flashing the rom and seeing whether it bricks. Maybe if haret got ported out would be a start. (maybe it already has, I didn't look at this for a while).
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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These clones always make me laugh a little. Why don't they just put Android on them? Lol.
I'm 100% sticking with Android but, I'd love to be able to dual boot WP7. You know, just to say I can
This would be hard work!
WP7 ist not OpenSource so creating driver etc is vey heavy!
Side note, anyone know if its going to be SIM free? Orange have the exclusive as an operator but I'm quite tempted to have a look at this...first previews are saying WP7 is VERY fast
Orange will have paid through the nose to get exclusivity of this phone so don't expect to see it sim free for at least a couple of months, they normally have either 6 weeks, 3 months or 6 months exclusive rights before going sim free.
I suppose cause the ROMs are out it could just be debranded, assuming it's not too hard to break the bootloader
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
Wondows 7 on htc desire
I would also love, If My HTC Desire is capable of dual boot on Windows 7 and Android. After having such a good hardware but if it does not support on software then it such hardware is of no use.
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given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
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Any one found a workaround to this yet? Dual booting is lovely. For this reason, I happen to put a hand on a HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and I can boot Android on it but the phone is not mine, so now Im searching for a good HTC phone that gives me the options to play with.
I just read an article regarding the Samsung Focus S, basically a Windows Phone 7 version of our beloved Galaxy S II... I was wondering if they have similar hardware inside? And will it be possible for some awesome dev to port the Mango ROM found on it to run on our GS2? Read something here on xda about dualbooting ROM's on the Galaxy S2... Wouldn't it be awesome if you could have both? The HTC HD2 is quite a old device but it can run Android, Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 perfectly... Could the same be possible for a Galaxy S2, except the Windows Mobile of course.
Please don't reply things like 'if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device'. I'm extremely satisfied with my GS2 but if it were possible to see how the other side lives I'd really like to do that. Any thoughts?
As WP7 is not open source, its more or less like illegal to port it to other devices to which it is not intended to run.
The HD2 is a windows phone, so don't forget that! This is the ONLY reason it can run WP7
I also would love to have that option, if nothing else, to just try WP7. Would also be willing to donate, though I understand the awesome developers don't do it for money.
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I just read an article regarding the Samsung Focus S, basically a Windows Phone 7 version of our beloved Galaxy S II... I was wondering if they have similar hardware inside? And will it be possible for some awesome dev to port the Mango ROM found on it to run on our GS2? Read something here on xda about dualbooting ROM's on the Galaxy S2... Wouldn't it be awesome if you could have both? The HTC HD2 is quite a old device but it can run Android, Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 perfectly... Could the same be possible for a Galaxy S2, except the Windows Mobile of course.
Please don't reply things like 'if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device'. I'm extremely satisfied with my GS2 but if it were possible to see how the other side lives I'd really like to do that. Any thoughts?
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WP7 is not compatible with the Galaxy S2 proccessor. But WP7 is made almost exclusively for Qualcomm processors. So, don't ever expect a WP7 mango port for Galaxy S2.
Since WP7 is not opensource, the custom ROMs and ports are just repacked existing ROMs with minor modifications or mix and match different ROMs. Since there is no WP7 phones running on similar hardware, this is not possible on Galaxy S2.
As, for HD2, it's hardware is similar to most WP7 phones with HD7 being almost same hardware has HD2 with just minor change.
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The HD2 is a windows phone, so don't forget that! This is the ONLY reason it can run WP7
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The fact that it is possible to run WP7 has nothing to do with the fact that it is shipped with Windows Phone.
It is unlikely that it will ever be ported to our device. Sad but true. Sad because WP7 is a great platform and it would be great to have Android and WP7 on our device.
thanks for all the reply's, it is quite sad though that this will likely never happen... oh well, we still have the phone of the year...
Oh and sorry for posting in the wrong section... my bad...
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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Why would you ever buy a Windows phone XD
mcardielo said:
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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someone didnt read the op.
mcardielo said:
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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Your an idiot, what did he say in his first post, don't say why not buy a windows phone. Get a grip.
I have just ordered an nokia lumia 800 windows phone.. is it possible to install google play store on it?
And is it possible to install android os on it??
im asking because i read it. and if possible,can u tell me how?
Thank u!
tonymb91 said:
I have just ordered an nokia lumia 800 windows phone.. is it possible to install google play store on it?
And is it possible to install android os on it??
im asking because i read it. and if possible,can u tell me how?
Thank u!
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No and no. I don't know where you read that, I just hope you didn't buy the phone relying on that info, heh...at the moment there's no way to do that. Maybe you're talking about the N9?
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aha.nono, i buyed it because it was cheap, and i just sold my s2.. i just worrie a little going to a new phone,since i know everything about rooting,changing roms and so on the android platform, while the windows im totally noob.. i did see the n9 running ics i belive. why cant the lumia 800 do it and the n9 can? i read about it on the internet that the lumis was close to getting android ported. this article was old i think, so i was woundering if they where finished porting!
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aha.nono, i buyed it because it was cheap, and i just sold my s2.. i just worrie a little going to a new phone,since i know everything about rooting,changing roms and so on the android platform, while the windows im totally noob.. i did see the n9 running ics i belive. why cant the lumia 800 do it and the n9 can? i read about it on the internet that the lumis was close to getting android ported. this article was old i think, so i was woundering if they where finished porting!
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Well I haven't heard anything about it so far. All we can have right now for our Lumias are custom roms with a few tweaks, however you'll be able to flash those only if you have the qualcomm bootloader, and this is mostly luck based, because it depends on the hardware revision of your specific device. Speaking of Android ports instead I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you...
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Well I haven't heard anything about it so far. All we can have right now for our Lumias are custom roms with a few tweaks, however you'll be able to flash those only if you have the qualcomm bootloader, and this is mostly luck based, because it depends on the hardware revision of your specific device. Speaking of Android ports instead I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you...
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oki.just woundering. think i will like the windows os. good too change. i dont like ios, and i have had android phone for a long time. if i like the 800 i will get the 920 later.. how is the appstore at the lumia 800, good games and apps? i really dont care if they have fewer apps than ios and android. i only have like 10-15 apps on my phones anyway. just want the regular games that are popular today
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oki.just woundering. think i will like the windows os. good too change. i dont like ios, and i have had android phone for a long time. if i like the 800 i will get the 920 later.. how is the appstore at the lumia 800, good games and apps? i really dont care if they have fewer apps than ios and android. i only have like 10-15 apps on my phones anyway. just want the regular games that are popular today
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Well it mostly depends on which particular apps you need...but in terms of games you'll probably be disappointed, don't expect to find stuff like Nova 3 I mean, but if you look for simple puzzle games like Cut the rope you should be ok. The top games will be available soon on WP8 devices tho.
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Well it mostly depends on which particular apps you need...but in terms of games you'll probably be disappointed, don't expect to find stuff like Nova 3 I mean, but if you look for simple puzzle games like Cut the rope you should be ok. The top games will be available soon on WP8 devices tho.
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And te lumia 800 does not get windows 8 i guess?
And,is it possible to overclock the nokia like ive done with my samsung galaxy s2?
tonymb91 said:
And te lumia 800 does not get windows 8 i guess?
And,is it possible to overclock the nokia like ive done with my samsung galaxy s2?
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Nope, it will get 7.8 and probably another update in the future (like 7.9 or something). Obviously this OS is much more locked down compared to Android, so you can't fiddle too much with it, like overclocking and stuff like that. However the OS is fully optimized for the hardware, so you don't really need to do anything in order to achieve smoothness and speed: the performance is optimal out of the box, unlike on some older Android devices. I had the GS2 as well before switching to WP, I haven't looked back since then. Trust me, you'll soon realize how great it is to simply USE your phone with no headaches.
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Nope, it will get 7.8 and probably another update in the future (like 7.9 or something). Obviously this OS is much more locked down compared to Android, so you can't fiddle too much with it, like overclocking and stuff like that. However the OS is fully optimized for the hardware, so you don't really need to do anything in order to achieve smoothness and speed: the performance is optimal out of the box, unlike on some older Android devices. I had the GS2 as well before switching to WP, I haven't looked back since then. Trust me, you'll soon realize how great it is to simply USE your phone with no headaches.
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yes,i have noticed how polished the os is.. i just read a article about the lumia 800 and a htc windows device. the phone had same specs, but the htc was clocked at 1,5 and the lumia 800 at 1.4 ghz,and the testers said that the htc was just that littlebi faster and smooter. im shour i will be satisfied wih wp 7, even though i have ordered one of the weakes devices in the lumia 800.. but as far as ive seen it, even with an singlecore prossesor the devise is very fast.. gonna go for the 920 later if im satisfied with the 800 what about roms? is it some roms that will acutally benifitt me to install? i dont care to mutch about just minor added settings to the phone. but if its a rom that actually makes the phone faster or something,please let me know. i know everything about android phones like rooting,installing roms,and so on. but i really feel like a bad ass noob at the windows phone platform
THank u!
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yes,i have noticed how polished the os is.. i just read a article about the lumia 800 and a htc windows device. the phone had same specs, but the htc was clocked at 1,5 and the lumia 800 at 1.4 ghz,and the testers said that the htc was just that littlebi faster and smooter. im shour i will be satisfied wih wp 7, even though i have ordered one of the weakes devices in the lumia 800.. but as far as ive seen it, even with an singlecore prossesor the devise is very fast.. gonna go for the 920 later if im satisfied with the 800 what about roms? is it some roms that will acutally benifitt me to install? i dont care to mutch about just minor added settings to the phone. but if its a rom that actually makes the phone faster or something,please let me know. i know everything about android phones like rooting,installing roms,and so on. but i really feel like a bad ass noob at the windows phone platform
THank u!
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Well there are a few cool things you can do with a custom ROM. For example you can sideload third party apps (without using the marketplace), remap your search key, use different search engines, wake the phone with any button, customize the ui and more. However keep in mind that no speed improvements or RAM tweaks whatever are available at the moment. Have look here if you wanna know more, this one of the ROM threads. I'd give it a try for sure but since I did a manual update a while ago I have the Nokia bootloader so I'm stuck here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1665651
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Well there are a few cool things you can do with a custom ROM. For example you can sideload third party apps (without using the marketplace), remap your search key, use different search engines, wake the phone with any button, customize the ui and more. However keep in mind that no speed improvements or RAM tweaks whatever are available at the moment. Have look here if you wanna know more, this one of the ROM threads. I'd give it a try for sure but since I did a manual update a while ago I have the Nokia bootloader so I'm stuck here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1665651
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thank u man! ill try to read and learn about this. i learned pretty mutch everything about android phones,so hope i can learn something about the lumia 800 toothank u!
Is it possible to install Android 4 on Nokia Lumia 920?
Unfortunately not at this point in time, Many users would love to have a dual boot option, Set a bounty to the Dark Forces Team to work on HSPL and if there is enough interest then may be work will begin
Either way it will not be happening for a very long time.
Yes, you just need the boot floppy.
i want Android too.
Not much love in WM8 now.
According to the reviews I read getting HSPL for the WP8 devices is close to impossible. (although that was said about a lot of things) I personally would however not want Android on this awesome device even if someone paid me for it
Megamegamonster said:
Is it possible to install Android 4 on Nokia Lumia 920?
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Fortunately, no.
sk22 said:
i want Android too.
Not much love in WM8 now.
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Buy an Android phone then. Problem solved.
These aren't desktop computers you can just load any OS onto, they are complex embedded devices.
There is a surprising lack of compatibility on ARM processors, so you're better buying the phone with the OS you want to run.
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Buy an Android phone then. Problem solved.
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Have to agree, why get a WM8 phone if you want to put Android on it?
HD2 was also a wm6.5 phone, right??
But I don't think there are a lot of HD2 still running wm6.5.
Why people keep porting different OS into it? They can just buy an android device, problem solved, too.
I think there will be more fans if 920 can be ported other OS.
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What is "WM8"?
There are more than enough Android phones bro.
You bought the wrong phone if you really want Android
the Lumia 920 is pure Windows Phone, you can fell the power and style it
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There was not a single port of Android to a WP7 phone and almost all of them had HSPL. When looking into HSPL for Nokia though some Devs decided it was to hard to crack - I would guess with Secure Boot this has not gotten easier.
So all in all: it is highly unlikely that you will see an Android port for the Lumia phones or any other WP for that matter. If you don't like WP8 and want an Android device: sell the Lumia and buy an Android - everything else seems likely to just frustrate you to no end.
I'm wondering if there are Android ROMs for Lumia hardware. Nokia's hardware is cheap and good - it would be nice to run Android on it.
Anyone know any other hackers from Nokia that are running it on their personal phones.
Lolwut
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stevep2007 said:
I'm wondering if there are Android ROMs for Lumia hardware. Nokia's hardware is cheap and good - it would be nice to run Android on it.
Anyone know any other hackers from Nokia that are running it on their personal phones.
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i think ROM isnt right. You need a whole OS with kernel i dont know what else.
i'm not a dev, but i think thats pretty impossible....maybe if you have all the sources and driver and a big team... something like microsoft
and nokia isnt relly cheap although
no, it's impossible. lumia supports only windows phone and so far nobody found solution how to install android on those devices. if u had nokia n900 then this wouldn't be a problem but you can't do anything with lumia );
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Not possible in current situation.
Though I have been hearing rumors that Nokia was supposedly developing Android ROMs for their Lumia series which was under very secret testing. If you have any of those top secret devices then maybe......
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Not possible in current situation.
Though I have been hearing rumors that Nokia was supposedly developing Android ROMs for their Lumia series which was under very secret testing. If you have any of those top secret devices then maybe......
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Actually that's because Nokia can unlock the bootloader and sideload any OS onto it.
@ OP: If you find a way to unlock the qualcomm bootloader, you can install Android onto it, however, that doesn't seem possible at the moment