Related
Just a bit of whining here...
The TyTN seems fine after a month of use but the headset issue is blowing my mind. I want to listen to the music and talk on the phone with some quality headsets.
First the supplied headset is a non standard USB, you cannot use your own headphones or connect to speaker inputs. Bluetooth stereo headsets are available but I believe that they are still too bulky and the technology is not yet fully developed.
You can't charge the phone while using the headset. This is just dumb, Very dumb.
Needless to say the quality of the supplied headset is not good, it is not even recognized by the phone as headset when you connect it. If you connect it to your phone while the phone is non silent, the phone still rings and not just your headset.
I have no idea why HTC is doing this, the TyTN is a relatively large device and it doesnt make sense that there are no spaces for a 2.5mm plug where you can buy all kidns of aftermarket wired headsets for it. Even the high end headset makers SHURE make headsets with the 2.5mm...
Finally I've made a move. TyTN X Sony Crossover Custom Headphones.
I've used a solder to remove the original earbuds wire and soldered a pair of cut SONY MDR-EX71SL headphones on. They sound 100 times better than the stock ones. This will ease my frustrations for now. I was tempted to solder my MDR-EX90LP on but they are $100 a pair. Too much for now
Later on I will try to rework the stock mini USB headphone and make a 2.5mm connector for it so I can use all kinds of headphones(with mic) and connect to a speaker system as I want!
EDIT: It appears that the original mini USB headset has 6 wires, 4 should be for the headphones and the remaining 2 for the mic, I can simply cut up the wire right after the mini USB port and connect the 6 wires to a standard cell phone headset 2.5mm connector then I should be able to connect the TyTN to all kinds of headsets![/img]
Arent you essentially doin this? http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html as seen in another post, seems like the most universal way to solve the problem.
I do like the way you built a set without a plug, cleaner..less cord and weight, but I know myself, I go through a pair of headphones about every 2 months on my mp3 player, Id hate to have to redo the soldering everytime, I expect with the headphones being such an issue for most peple that the market will be flodded in a month or so with headphones for the tytn, or atleast adapters, shoot, the one guy in the above url even offered to do it for free, as long as you bought the plug.
is there still no adaptor available to buy?
i just do this way........
can swap any earpiece....
crash74 said:
i just do this way........
can swap any earpiece....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
@crash74
Looks very good, even more solid than the other solution, but how do you open the unit to reach the print, is their any trick?!
Can i also use the new connection as a line-out for little active stereo boxes, or is this to tricky for TyTn/boxes?
worked like a dream i have no more crapy hissing inbetween tracks and now i can play my song thu my hi-fi that 1 to the modders and 0 to htc
Adapter usb to 3.5 jack
Go to semsons.com, they have the adapter
qing84, I have the same headphones as u=) firstly I solve this problem like you, but I smash the small "black box"=) with mic and volume control, and i was need connect my mdr-ex71 directly to TyTN without "black box"=(
I was glad that i did it, because sound became much more louder, and more clean...
qing84 said:
Just a bit of whining here...
The TyTN seems fine after a month of use but the headset issue is blowing my mind. I want to listen to the music and talk on the phone with some quality headsets.
First the supplied headset is a non standard USB, you cannot use your own headphones or connect to speaker inputs. Bluetooth stereo headsets are available but I believe that they are still too bulky and the technology is not yet fully developed.
You can't charge the phone while using the headset. This is just dumb, Very dumb.
Needless to say the quality of the supplied headset is not good, it is not even recognized by the phone as headset when you connect it. If you connect it to your phone while the phone is non silent, the phone still rings and not just your headset.
I have no idea why HTC is doing this, the TyTN is a relatively large device and it doesnt make sense that there are no spaces for a 2.5mm plug where you can buy all kidns of aftermarket wired headsets for it. Even the high end headset makers SHURE make headsets with the 2.5mm...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
umm...you could have just bought this.... http://www.cellphoneshop.net/auadforci85.html
i think its a good idea to replace the head phone leaving the mic in workin condition.as there is no connector is still available at least in my town.i ll try it tomorrow.thanx dude
For anyone who wants to order their 3.5mm solution now, take a look at this one from HTC: http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=159613
It’s the page for one listed as being for a Touch Cruise, but there’s a page with one for every HTC phone. I’ve been using it for a few months on my HTC Touch Cruise and it’s great. The plug itself is compact, no different in size than a 3.5mm headphone plug -- and stays put (it isn't shown in the photo). It has 2 parts, the cord with the plug at one end, and a microphone with a 3.5mm jack at the other. The other part is the throwaway earbud headphones that you can toss and use your own. No bulky dongle, and makes any favorite pair of headphones into your microphone/stereo headset. Personally, I forget HTC forgot the 3.5mm jack with this one, as it's just a cable, not an annoying adapter.
The pinout of the mini-usb jack on the G1 is the same as all other HTC phones, so at the very least the microphone and stereo audio will work. Some features of the answer-button that may or may not work on the G1: push once to answer; pushing while on a call places the call on hold; 2 quick presses redials the last number; 1 long press activates voice dial. Most likely, the button will mimick whatever functionality is present with the headset that ships with the device.
It's made by HTC, and is very durable. Beware the adapters from Seidio -- they last a couple weeks and then start to give out, audio stutters, fades in/out -- they're not constructed well and within a month or so the ends start to get loose from the wire; and you can't exactly run to Best Buy for replacements.
The budget-shipping rate from MobilePlanet.com should have them to you well before your G1 arrives
Question. How far will the microphone be from my mouth? How good is the microphone...the problem is my regular headphones are kinda long like the wire is probably a good 20 inches.
So by the time its plugged into the adapter the mic is gonna be 20 inches from my mouth..and I want to be able to pic up without using the phone? will it work?
Probably -- the mic is in the end that your headphones plug into, I don't know how long it is, but I do hold the mic up a bit when I use it as that. Primarily, I like it as it's not a dongle and in use is no different than having a 3.5mm headphone plugged in. The plug itself isn't big, it stays put, and if I need to speak on it I can. The mic quality is OK, though it picks up all background noise, and a slight breeze can sound like a windstorm. Talking on it is just a convenience for me, I really wanted a standard type stereo headphone cable that I could pick up a call on. My devices tend to be music players first, and phones 2nd.
FearlessM said:
Question. How far will the microphone be from my mouth? How good is the microphone...the problem is my regular headphones are kinda long like the wire is probably a good 20 inches.
So by the time its plugged into the adapter the mic is gonna be 20 inches from my mouth..and I want to be able to pic up without using the phone? will it work?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Earbuds w/out Mic/Converter?
Hey all,
I've been looking for some earbuds that don't require an adapter and just plug into the G1's current plug, or have an annoying mic; just to listen to music with.
Something that would eliminate the need for this: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-5mm-Headset-H...14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
Does anyone know where I can find some?
Thx
grim1234 said:
Hey all,
I've been looking for some earbuds that don't require an adapter and just plug into the G1's current plug, or have an annoying mic; just to listen to music with.
Something that would eliminate the need for this: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-5mm-Headset-H...14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
Does anyone know where I can find some?
Thx
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While I don't endorse this company, they seem to have quite a selection. http://onlyandroid.mobihand.com/homeAccessories.asp?hCategory=1022 Personally, I am inclinded to get http://onlyandroid.mobihand.com/productaccessories.asp?id=17085&n=HTC-3-in-1-USB-Adapter so I can charge the phone and use the headset of my choice. (This adapter looks like a beast though...)
G/L,
--M
PS that website has the adapter you are looking at on ebay for less... just fyi.
mini usb to rca adapter
is there a mini usb to rca adapter that can work with the g1?
Well, it's got 2 reviews, and a rating of 1 star on the company's site... There are tons of them on eBay, wonder if those are terrible... I suspect so.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280277868575
I ordered a few of those. I will let you guys know how long it takes to get to the US and how I like the adapter itself. I also need one for the car that lets me charge and then convert to 3.5 to go into my aux input in my car.
haitiankid4lyf said:
is there a mini usb to rca adapter that can work with the g1?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Might be easiest to go USB -> 3.5mm -> RCA. Not elegant but parts are available.
--M
yeah i was thinking about that, but two different adapters but i guess thats the only way for now
thanks
http://www.google.com/products?q=mini+usb+to+rca&btnG=Search+Products&hl=en&show=dd
found some but dont know if they will work
Here is a good 3.5 adapter that lets you charge at the same time.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=171920
benjimen said:
Probably -- the mic is in the end that your headphones plug into, I don't know how long it is, but I do hold the mic up a bit when I use it as that. Primarily, I like it as it's not a dongle and in use is no different than having a 3.5mm headphone plugged in. The plug itself isn't big, it stays put, and if I need to speak on it I can. The mic quality is OK, though it picks up all background noise, and a slight breeze can sound like a windstorm. Talking on it is just a convenience for me, I really wanted a standard type stereo headphone cable that I could pick up a call on. My devices tend to be music players first, and phones 2nd.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how do you find the audio quality through headphones? little worried as i hear through its own speakers it can be a litte on the quiet side :/
bobby digital said:
how do you find the audio quality through headphones? little worried as i hear through its own speakers it can be a litte on the quiet side :/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same volume as the headset that ships with it. Try it and see.
sorry i wasnt clear, i didnt mean does an adaptor effect the sound, purely what is mp3 quality and sound like through headphones generally on g1 (standard headphones or not) compared to say i-phone,nokia,sony erricson etc
Sounds good to me.
i have one of those adapters, i got it for my wing way back, i think they were like 99 cents or something so i bought a bunch, they wear out pretty fast though, there nice to play music from my g1 in my car, i just wish there was a way to keep the microphone on the phone so i could talk on the phone and have the audio come through my cars speakers.
Headphone adapter
The newer G1s are shipping with a really nice official headphone adapter in the box, but I can't find it for sale anywhere. Are early adopters just left out in the cold with no headphone support? HTC has these ExtUSB ports on every one of their phones but they don't seem to sell any official adapters so I'm going to be stuck buying sub-par chinese adapters off of Ebay.
anyone have any pictures of what the headphone adapters look like?
wth, i want one official one! maybe calling t-mobile, they will send us one?
It looks the same as the standard headphones the only difference is that at the head phones them selves aren't attached to the remote (one end of the remote is the usb cable and the other is a 3.5mm port) they are 3.5mm head phones. I called t-mobile about it because my brother got one and they said they new nothing they said it wasn't on the packing list so I called HTC and they said they new nothing and since there was no bulletin they could not send me anything. I went to my local t-mobile store asked them about it and they gave me a new one out of a returned phone. The reason that tmobile says that they are not shipping them with a 3.5mm adapter is because its just a modified head phone and not an adapter and head phones in the box. I would recommend going to your local t-mobile store and asking about it.
Sorry about the picture quality I took them with my super G1 camera.
Hello,
From the searches I have done on here and other forums to include cell phone stores, I can't seem to find any information pertaining to USB headphones. Basically my question is: Are there any reasonably priced headphones that directly plug into the usb port (without any adapters or mini jacks as the plug)?
Thanks.
HTC headphones
http://store.wmexperts.com/htc-stereo-headset/11A29A1450.htm
For 15 bucks you get something from HTC that's workable until you find what you really want. Decent music quality. No adaptor needed.
It is funny you post this. I was just searching for some today and I purchased these.
If you search OEM Heaphones Fuze on eBay, you can find some for $10 shipped.
i have a sprint TP and DL the fuse FM radio app and it says that the phone uses the headphones as an antenna. mine does not work, you think with the fuse headphone it would??
USB Headphones - Not all work?
Are there different types of mini-USB headphones?
I just purchased a pair of Motorola "Stereo Headset with Enhanced Mini USB Connector" headphones that do not work when plugged into my fuze.
However, I went and found the old headphones from my Dash and plugged it in and it works.
Both have the phone/music switch.
Why would one work and other not? The shape of the of the jack on the old set just a little different that the Motorola's which look like a fat little "t" and is the same shape as all the connector wires and charging wires I am using. The shape of the jack on the old ones, however, does match the shape of the fuze jack.
Sorry if this is an obvious questions, but what am I missing? What do I need to look for when purchasing earphone/headset?
I have answered my own question. HTC is using a proprietary form of USB...extUSB. It combines audio and data, so you can use regular mini-USB for everything except audio. This bugs me. why do you take something that is supposed to be "universal" then make it proprietary. So now I gotta look for and buy special headphones.
bluetooth headset
I personally use the bt3030 bluetooth headset from jabra. Full stereo use any regular headphones you like. I use the stock ear buds works fine. These work for phone calls sprint nav as well as full stereo from mp3's basically any audio can be funnelled into these. cost around 80 bucks.
arsmithsr said:
I personally use the bt3030 bluetooth headset from jabra. Full stereo use any regular headphones you like. I use the stock ear buds works fine. These work for phone calls sprint nav as well as full stereo from mp3's basically any audio can be funnelled into these. cost around 80 bucks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can get the 3030's from newegg for 40 shipped in bulk packaging. Work great and no need to plug them into the phone since they are bluetooth. Give you the ability to answer phone, have remote, and listen to music. I love them. Got some skull candy headphones for 10 bucks from marshalls to replace the stock headphones they came with. Check them out
Headphones
Anyone found any USB headphones that have equal cord length on both sides? I really hate the uneven setup..always seems to pull one or the other out...... Thanks !!
I need an extension cable either for the E-USB or the triple jack (stereo plus mic) to use as a handsfree system in my car (with the stereo system as speakers and a mic attached to the seat belt). But I haven't been able to fine one in the usually very well assorted Hong Kong eBay shops. Has anybody seen anything like that in an eBay shop that ships to Europe?
Mastiff said:
I need an extension cable either for the E-USB or the triple jack (stereo plus mic) to use as a handsfree system in my car (with the stereo system as speakers and a mic attached to the seat belt). But I haven't been able to fine one in the usually very well assorted Hong Kong eBay shops. Has anybody seen anything like that in an eBay shop that ships to Europe?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Touch HD ONLY supports headsets through the 3.5mm jack, NOT the ExtUSB port, which is data and charging ONLY (meaning there was absolutely no point in them putting the ExtUSB in there in the first place as it's simply a miniUSB)
Sorry I can't help on the 4-pole 3.5mm jack extender, but thought you should be aware that you pretty much only have that option.
Actually that's only half right. It does not support sound out through the E-USB, but it does support mic in. I have no idea why they made it that way (in my opinion it's idiotic not to have a fully fuctional port there as well - perhaps it's only disabled in software?), but it does give you the opportunity to have a microphone separagte from the headphones. The extension really only is needed for the mic, which is why I could use an E-USB extension. But I would say that the chances of anybody making that is somewhere south of none...
I recommended the Honor 5X to a family member. They also were interested in new headphones, and I recommended they purchase a pair of headphones that I like. These headphones are AHJ or CTIA headphones-- which means that they have the following pinout:
Code:
|^|
|_| <--- LEFT
|_| <--- RIGHT
|_| <--- GROUND
|_| <--- MICROPHONE
(Excuse the crude ASCII art-- that's supposed to be the male end of a 3.5mm connector where the tip of the connector is on the top.)
This is opposed to an older 3.5mm microphone connecter with a pinout of (Left -> Right -> Mic -> Ground) that was called OMTP.
The Android Spec for headphones can be found at the following link: https://source.android.com/devices/accessories/headset/specification.html
You'll note that CTIA is *required* for phones "except in regions with legal requirements for OMTP pinout". Given that this phone is sold in the US, it should work with CTIA headphones.
But in my experience with these headphones and phone, it doesn't. Music plays fine, but if you listen to the microphone there is a loud buzzing on the other end. If you research this online, you'll see that this is a common symptom of using CTIA headphones in an OMTP jack.
The same pair of headphones works fine on my Nexus 6, so I am certain it's not a problem with the headphones. I don't have a pair of OMTP headphones around that I can try with the Honor 5X, so I can't say for certain that this isn't just a problem with this device.
Can anyone reproduce these issues with CTIA headphones on the Honor 5x? Does anyone find that they can use CTIA headphones without issue? The headphones in question are Apple earbuds, if anyone is curious. To test, plug in headphones and use the voice recorder app that comes preinstalled, or just call another phone.
If it turns out that this is a violation of the Android spec, is there any recourse that we can take?
Thanks,
I don't know how to know if the headphones are ctia or omtp... But i have around 5 headphones and i tried all of them but couldn't produce those results... Maybe all of em were omtp.. Cant say.... Btw i have the l21 variant
Sent from my KIW-L21 using Tapatalk
I've got same issue here Honor 5x From European Distribution (Poland) When i try "Apple Friendly" - CTIA Headphones with Play/Pause and Vol+/- control only play/pause button works. No volume control, original headset works fine (But they just simply SUXS). In oposite way i've got the same when I plug Honor headset to Iphone 4 just play/pause button works.
Maybe there is an software solution to switch Ground/Mic channel
This was all on KIW-L24, so it's interesting that you're not seeing this problem on L21.
I just found a pair of old Blackberry headphones in a drawer, predating CTIA. They work flawlessly with the phone. Plug in the Apple headphones and the buzzing is back. Something is definitely up.
Android spec says this shouldn't happen.