I recommended the Honor 5X to a family member. They also were interested in new headphones, and I recommended they purchase a pair of headphones that I like. These headphones are AHJ or CTIA headphones-- which means that they have the following pinout:
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|_| <--- LEFT
|_| <--- RIGHT
|_| <--- GROUND
|_| <--- MICROPHONE
(Excuse the crude ASCII art-- that's supposed to be the male end of a 3.5mm connector where the tip of the connector is on the top.)
This is opposed to an older 3.5mm microphone connecter with a pinout of (Left -> Right -> Mic -> Ground) that was called OMTP.
The Android Spec for headphones can be found at the following link: https://source.android.com/devices/accessories/headset/specification.html
You'll note that CTIA is *required* for phones "except in regions with legal requirements for OMTP pinout". Given that this phone is sold in the US, it should work with CTIA headphones.
But in my experience with these headphones and phone, it doesn't. Music plays fine, but if you listen to the microphone there is a loud buzzing on the other end. If you research this online, you'll see that this is a common symptom of using CTIA headphones in an OMTP jack.
The same pair of headphones works fine on my Nexus 6, so I am certain it's not a problem with the headphones. I don't have a pair of OMTP headphones around that I can try with the Honor 5X, so I can't say for certain that this isn't just a problem with this device.
Can anyone reproduce these issues with CTIA headphones on the Honor 5x? Does anyone find that they can use CTIA headphones without issue? The headphones in question are Apple earbuds, if anyone is curious. To test, plug in headphones and use the voice recorder app that comes preinstalled, or just call another phone.
If it turns out that this is a violation of the Android spec, is there any recourse that we can take?
Thanks,
I don't know how to know if the headphones are ctia or omtp... But i have around 5 headphones and i tried all of them but couldn't produce those results... Maybe all of em were omtp.. Cant say.... Btw i have the l21 variant
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I've got same issue here Honor 5x From European Distribution (Poland) When i try "Apple Friendly" - CTIA Headphones with Play/Pause and Vol+/- control only play/pause button works. No volume control, original headset works fine (But they just simply SUXS). In oposite way i've got the same when I plug Honor headset to Iphone 4 just play/pause button works.
Maybe there is an software solution to switch Ground/Mic channel
This was all on KIW-L24, so it's interesting that you're not seeing this problem on L21.
I just found a pair of old Blackberry headphones in a drawer, predating CTIA. They work flawlessly with the phone. Plug in the Apple headphones and the buzzing is back. Something is definitely up.
Android spec says this shouldn't happen.
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Does anyone know if the HTC P3350 W100 Wired Remote Control
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=147564[/URL]
will work with the Cingular 8525 (Hermes, TyTN)? This is sold in Europe and can be had in the US from Mobile Planet which seems to be the same as expansys.com.
On the European HTC site there is also a media fix that may apply to this accessory as well as the Y connector.
HTC audio Drivers
Downloading and installing this driver update will provide your HTC mobile device with the latest available optimised software for use with the following accessories:
YC A120 Y-Cable adaptor
The hot music setup for Mogul and 8525
I just purchased the HTC RC W100 Remote from Mobile Planet. It connects to the phone's extUSB and provides a 3.5mm headset jack that carries the mic port out to the connector. It has a 36" cord so there is a lot of cord if you have a long headset cord.
The head has controls for fast forward, pause, +/- volume and you can answer/end calls, mute and put a call on/off hold. This assumes that you have a mic on your headset to talk into.
The http://www.Europe.HTC.Com site says it is for the TyTn II but it seems to work with both the 8525 and the Mogul . . . It is not on the USA site at all.
I use the Sure SE110s stereo headset (individual internal sub-woofer component) and added their MPA-C cable that has a mic in it (Thsi would work for any headset). I have not found any other solutions that wok this well.
The standard headset really has poor quality and is uncomfortable for my ears. Bluetooth is either a mono headset w/ mic or a stereo headset (no mic) and the battery life is unpredictable.
This way I can ride my bike and control my music while the Mogul stays in my camel-back and when a call comes I can actually answer it and then go back to listening.
Very cool setup.
So this doesn't solve the headphone problem? Can't I just buy this and a pair of headphones? I don't need handfree anyway
E: Why a 36'' cord? I totally lost interest
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N1c0_ds said:
So this doesn't solve the headphone problem? Can't I just buy this and a pair of headphones? I don't need handfree anyway
E: Why a 36'' cord? I totally lost interest
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N1cO;
I do not know what headset problem you are referring to but this is definitely a solution if you want to listen to music with a good stereo headset. I just happen to like the Shure stuff because they eliminate some road and wind noise while I am riding my bike or skiing. Also the higher end ones actually have miniature tweeters and sub-woofers built in.
All you need is the W100 and any headset with a 3.5mm jack.
As it turns out, I just found out the unit has a built-in mic and that eliminates the need for a more expensive headset that has a mic. There was nothing in the manual that came with it that talked about the mic! So RTFB does not work!
It also comes with a small disc that has the driver in it. I tried to install it on my Mogul but it said that I had the latest driver . . .
As far as the 36" cord, my Shure headset comes in 2 pieces, the earphones are on a short cord so it is not too long. If you had a standard headset, it might get a little long.
The other side of the Shure headset has the connectors that go into the device(s). This way you can have several different connectors for different phones, MP3 players, etc. Blackberry's and Razor's have different jacks and most cell phones like the HTC 8125 (Cingular) use a 2.5 mm jack.
Has anyone found any in-ear canal headphones that have a mic attached to the cord, similar in design to the white iphone head phones, but go in the ear canal? Also, when playing music, does the music pause when you receive a call or do you need to pause it manually? I saw that you could play music do other things on the phone since it multitasks pretty well.
I am using Jabra BT3030 and it works like that.
I would like to know it to. the ones that are deliverd with the hero hurts my ear it doesn't fit perfectly. i think i have small ears . i tryed the xperia headphones but the mic didn't work.
i searched ebay but couldn't find any for hero.
Well it doesn't need to be just for the hero as with a 3.5mm jack it should work with any mic and headphone.
P.S I think but don't count on it.
blood9656 said:
Well it doesn't need to be just for the hero as with a 3.5mm jack it should work with any mic and headphone.
P.S I think but don't count on it.
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Like i said before i tried with the headphones of xperia it has 3.5mm jack with mic but the mic didn't work. the icon showed also only headphones when you put the hero headphones the icon shows also a mic.
I also tought it wouldn't differ witch you used but i was wrong.
Bluetooth stereo headphones
megaoptimus said:
Has anyone found any in-ear canal headphones that have a mic attached to the cord, similar in design to the white iphone head phones, but go in the ear canal? Also, when playing music, does the music pause when you receive a call or do you need to pause it manually? I saw that you could play music do other things on the phone since it multitasks pretty well.
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You can try Stereo bluetooth headphones, "cans" style like the old headphones with padding not those earbud type. The Hero has Stereo bluetooth compatibilty and will give you music listening upto 10m away from the Hero with, pause, start, skip and reply functions as well as answering phone calls using the omni direction mic in the right headphone "can".. look on ebay you'll find them for under £30 or 35Euro
My mod
Hey,
Try out my solution:
Htc Hero std headset + Koss portapro = amazing!
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Htc bh s100
I've found the HTC BH S100 to be the best A2DP headset ever, sounds great, has excellent battery life, high output power, short charging time and a standard 3.5mm stereo jack, so you can attach your favourite headphone to it (I use Philips' SHE-9501 extra-cheap super-mega-boombass earpieces!).
I'm just wondering if the S100 will work with the Hero that's coming to my home..........
Simpler than Koss modification, quite affordable (30 euro's) in-ear headphone (great sound if you are a bass-addict), working mic + button:
V-Moda vibe duo. --> Officially made for iPhone, but works fine on my Hero!
I guess that all iPhone designed earplugs+mic will work, so a whole array of products is available... Ultimate ears also have a model for iPhone, and UE usually has a nice balanced sound.
happy shopping!
BPJ
hi
i have tested the lg arena km900 headset and ist works pretty good
the headset has a button with mic and they are inear (ear canal headphones)
very nice sound and loud too! play and pause works !
lg arena km900 standart headphones maybe you can buy them from ebay
byby
HTC RC E100 + Sony MDR-AS50
This is a great combo for the Hero.
My only complaint would be that it would have been better if the connector could have been the 3.5mm jack rather than the MiniUSBExt. My old Nokia headset adaptor could do all this through a 3.5mm jack.
you can just use the iphone headphone it works. everything works mic, play pause, i'm using the iphone head phone from candy skull. like the apple iphone headphone it has the switch and mic on the right side. or if you preferred just use the apple headphone
Klipsch Image S4I
I bought a pair of Klipsch Image S4I wich has super clear sound.
But the mike and buttons does not for with my Hero, only start/stop music.
/J
Hi guys,
I recently lost my Shure SE420's and have upgraded to a set of Ultimate Ears Triple Fi 10 Vi IEM's. I bought the 'Vi' version as it has a built in mic for handsfree and a button to answer/hang up. The box said for iphone and blackberry compatible but I assumed the x10 would have no worries as its the same 3.5mm jack.
Turns out I cannot use them as the button appears to be inverted for the x10 / Android, ie its permanently in 'hang up' position. Tring to make a call immedialty displays 'call ended', but if I hold the button down it allows me to call out and releasing it hangs up.
Listening to music is terrible, it sounds robotic and keeps chopping the sound, but when the button is pressed it works fine.
Tested the headphones on my old HTC Touch HD (wm6.5) and a friends iphone and they work perfectly so appears to be an android / x10 issue. The only work around to listen to music is using a 3.5mm extender which doesnt use the mic (one less connection on the jack)
Is there something ive missed in the settings or does anyone know a workaround? Its driving me nuts!
Thanks
its because the wires dont go to the same conections in the x10 compared to the iphone, if you know what i mean. there is no setting because they are hard wired. if you are good with that sort of thing you could make an adapter, afaik that would work but its a lot of hassle.
Does anybody have a headphone with build in mic that actually works on the X10?
yea my stock sony headset that came with the x10 have built in mic and they work fine....
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Really? What model headphones are those? The ones I got with my X10 came with an extension remote/microphone that you can use with any headphones, but the extension makes the cables too long so I'm looking for heaphones with the microphone build in.
I tested my Ultimate Ears Triple Fi 10 Vi on an EVO before I bought mine and they worked great. They also worked until around the time of the latest OTA update. Now they don't control music or answer phone calls. I highly doubt the headphones broke but I ordered a replacement cable just in case so hopefully that's it but I suspect they broke something with the update.
Hi! I was wondering of an app that can live monitor my voice on my omnia, in other words I want to hear my voice on the headset so I can connect my phone with an amplified loudspeaker and hear my voice live (without delays) in the loudspeaker. Is that possible? That wold be cool, turn your phone into a speaker system. Please if you can do a reserach and give me an answer, thank you!
mic in headphone jack?
So, does the X10 have the 4 connector-type of headphone jack? Mono headphone jacks have only two conductor areas separated by an insulator; stereo headphone jacks have a third zone; and there are some devices that use a fourth zone adding a presumably mono mic to the mix.
I've been thinking Bluetooth is the only way to add a mic to the X10.
I have one of these mic/headphone combos for my ipod (for skype) and it does the same thing with my X10. I found that if I plugged it in the X10, then pulled it out by about 2-3mm, it worked fine for audio and microphone, but the button would be inactive. Best workaround I can think of.
the original headphone with mic is the best, don`t need to change it
wow so now my skullcandy's w/mic decide to work on pandora radio..
I found this adapter, which might be a fix for the hard-wiring. It's called "FiiO LU1 smart adaptor cable converter".
I am also looking for a wired headset (not in-ears). I know the one from Koss iPorta Pro isn't working.
Today, I found this other one, pretty cool, which claims to be working for most sonyericsson phones: Cresyn C550S black.
Not sure if the adapter is needed though. Maybe it would fix the problem with the
Let me know if you are using any nice wired headphone with mic that is working with x10!
I apologize for my English. Translated from Google.
Tell me how to solve small problem. The essence is as follows:
Presented with a headset on the iPhone 4, while listening to music and watching videos, sound is muffled. If you press and hold (!), The Play button on the headset the sound is normal. In another Nexus One, and he has them working properly. In what may be the problem? How to decide? Interestingly, once already tested the sound quality of these headphones, and it was not.
http://androidforums.com/sony-erics...0-headset-issue-problem-norm.html#post2675162
It's the way it is made.
iPhone is not built the same way the x10 headphone jack is
But I had included, works fine.
Maybe you didn't read what I posted.
Simple answer for the issue. Sony does things their way, while everyone else caters to the iPhone industry.
Headphones w/ mics have a male plug have 4 pins.....both Sony and iPhone, the first 2 pins are the same, but the 2nd two are different.
Pressing the answer button on the headset connects rings 3 & 4 on both headsets. (Which, in effect is the same as a listening only headset.)
Either use headphones without a mic (for music) or use a bluetooth headset (for phone) or use the Sony headset that came with the phone or visit the Sony store.
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I read your message. And I can not understand why, then, to work? May be the case even in the firmware? Now is not the official 2.2.1
I heard that it happens only on headphones with mic, so I just taped the answer button on controller and they work fine You can also try some adapters from ebay or some similar pages...
Some of you may agree but some may disagree. The audio output of the 3.5mm headphone jack is far to quiet.
A cheap and easy solution to this is I bought the USB-C to 3.5mm DAC from HTC. Join the HTC club and it was £5.95 with free next day delivery.
Much louder and very good quality. Can't find any specification on what BIT the DAC is and I don't have the tools to measure it but its far better than the build in 3.5mm jack.
http://shop.eu.htc.com/store/htcemea/en_GB/pd/productID.5093216900/parentCategoryID.70508500/
I've got tinnitus in my right ear from constantly having a headphone in it for a number of years. I used to always listen on the loudest volume. With the xperia xz you can have active noise cancelling headphones, I can warmly recommend the nc31em in ear, I bought a pair for 15 bucks and it uses the processor of the phone so you don't have to carry a big dongle. Now I can listen at half volume and still hear everything better than I did before!
I received a Griffin iTrip Clip Bluetooth headphone adapter so I could be wire free from my phone and found this improved the loudness and remained good quality audio. You may get a bit of breakage occasionally if multitasking but for £14 from Amazon, it's a cracking piece of kit!
Fantastic solution
I have followed the steps of signing up for HTC Club, and ordering the adapter straight away. It really came next day with no extra charge for delivery. And oh boy, the sound is amazing! I am bit of geek when it comes to headphones, so i have a multiple different types. The difference between using the audio jack output of the phone and using the usb c adapter is NIGHT and DAY. Not only loudness is incomparable higher, the pure quality of the sound is improved in every way. I do not believe that there is DAC hidden in the adapter, as it is quite small and low priced. What makes difference in my opinion is the additional power phone can send to the headphones by using the USB C out. Difference is so big, that this workaround can be seen as hidden features to extent, as Sony has not said a thing about using your USB C out for audio. Now I truly understand why the removal of headphone jack make sense as even phones with not the best DAC and AMP can produce great sound thanks to power of USB C.
In case of Sony Xperia XZ however, it looks as DAC is of a top- notch quality(it officially supports Hi-Res codecs after all) but the AMP is criminally under-powered and so combined with Sony obeying EU regulations for safe listening volume converts to quality sound but on quiet side. But thanks to this adapter the DAC is no longer tied to volume level set by headphone jack.
Everyone who owns this phone must buy this, especially considering the low price of the adapter. You need hear it to believe it.
jms.flynn said:
Some of you may agree but some may disagree. The audio output of the 3.5mm headphone jack is far to quiet.
A cheap and easy solution to this is I bought the USB-C to 3.5mm DAC from HTC. Join the HTC club and it was £5.95 with free next day delivery.
Much louder and very good quality. Can't find any specification on what BIT the DAC is and I don't have the tools to measure it but its far better than the build in 3.5mm jack.
http://shop.eu.htc.com/store/htcemea/en_GB/pd/productID.5093216900/parentCategoryID.70508500/
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I was on another trip recently and one scheduled for next week. Indeed the sound out of the headphone jack is extremely low so I ordered one of these gadgets and will arrive on Friday. The success from others is what I expect to gain and will report back
USB Type C to 3.5mm Earphone Headphone Cable Adapter USB-C to 3.5mm Jack Aux Cable for Letv 2 2pro max2 Pro 3 Xiaomi 6
http://s.aliexpress.com/UnmURNbM
(from AliExpress Android)
Efe64 said:
USB Type C to 3.5mm Earphone Headphone Cable Adapter USB-C to 3.5mm Jack Aux Cable for Letv 2 2pro max2 Pro 3 Xiaomi 6
http://s.aliexpress.com/UnmURNbM
(from AliExpress Android)
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Hello i bought thi product but isn't working for me do i need to do something else or just plugging in ??
RedJHoN said:
Hello i bought thi product but isn't working for me do i need to do something else or just plugging in ??
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Its not working for me too...using the xaomi dongle
Just asking is they a way of updating the dongle without having a htc device I've installed the audio usb jack toolkit from htc but nothing seems to happen
Thanks
Thank you so much for this. The low earphone volume was driving me mad. So after reading this, I bought the same thing from HTC and it works fantastically and sounds amazing now.
Is is working also on oreo latest update?
triggaz said:
Is is working also on oreo latest update?
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Yes works fine with Oreo.
Two kinds of USBC to 3.5mm Adapters, beware.
Just so folks know, there are two types of USB-C 3.5mm adapters out there - Digital and Analog.
All decent phones should support the Digital adapters, since they are just USB Audio Class devices made small. You could also plug them into a PC. Because they contain the DAC and amplifier, they will be spendy.
However, the $2 Passive adapters have no DAC in them. They trigger a special mode of the phone that basically puts the USB-C jack into an analog 3.5mm mode and the rest is just plastic and metal. The DAC is in the phone. The phone has to specifically support this mode, and will likely indicate USB-C Analog Accessory Mode in their specifications. Xperia XZ Premium does NOT support this mode, and never will - it has to be built into the hardware.
Just sayin.
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Just so folks know, there are two types of USB-C 3.5mm adapters out there - Digital and Analog.
All decent phones should support the Digital adapters, since they are just USB Audio Class devices made small. You could also plug them into a PC. Because they contain the DAC and amplifier, they will be spendy.
However, the $2 Passive adapters have no DAC in them. They trigger a special mode of the phone that basically puts the USB-C jack into an analog 3.5mm mode and the rest is just plastic and metal. The DAC is in the phone. The phone has to specifically support this mode, and will likely indicate USB-C Analog Accessory Mode in their specifications. Xperia XZ Premium does NOT support this mode, and never will - it has to be built into the hardware.
Just sayin.
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how come some people heard a huge difference in audio quality?
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jms.flynn said:
Some of you may agree but some may disagree. The audio output of the 3.5mm headphone jack is far to quiet.
A cheap and easy solution to this is I bought the USB-C to 3.5mm DAC from HTC. Join the HTC club and it was £5.95 with free next day delivery.
Much louder and very good quality. Can't find any specification on what BIT the DAC is and I don't have the tools to measure it but its far better than the build in 3.5mm jack.
http://shop.eu.htc.com/store/htcemea/en_GB/pd/productID.5093216900/parentCategoryID.70508500/
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htc website doesnt ship to my region
where else can I buy it from?
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how come some people heard a huge difference in audio quality?
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Because people are trying different USB Audio headphones. Sony is not in control of their quality or amplification since the DAC and amp are in the headphones. For those using different 3.5mm headsets, their quality varies greatly. Sony expects folks to buy theirs, preferably with their active noise canceling that they wrote software for. It works well but as stated, they are not very loud.
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Because people are trying different USB Audio headphones. Sony is not in control of their quality or amplification since the DAC and amp are in the headphones. For those using different 3.5mm headsets, their quality varies greatly. Sony expects folks to buy theirs, preferably with their active noise canceling that they wrote software for. It works well but as stated, they are not very loud.
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ok so I have an audio system in my car, and volume in headphones gets super low compared to CD (I know CD quality is the best you can get i think) but still its VERY very low compared to it, in aux on 13db I get same loudness as 7db in CD, which means I have to turn it on almost twice as much as a cd to hear same loudness, (why dont I simply turn my audio more than usual on a cd?) because I like listening to very loud music and I some times get to 23db on a cd and its very loud and on aux i must reach at least 40db to get close to being as loud but my audio system only supports up to 30db so I am getting aux loudness of 15-16db compared to CD.
will the usb 3.0 to AUX DAC help me get louder volume?