Good morning all,
I am wondering if there is a feasible way to use a droid phone as the processer to enable a usb JBOD to offer a network share for media storage.
Currently I am using 2 - 8 bay Probox devices with 3TB drives and would like them to be NAS devices for my 40+TB movie db. I was using a media player for the share, but now am having problems with the device and would like a cheap method to share my drives directly on my network. I do have several old droid phones. Does anyone know if the internal processor of a droid like a Galaxy 2 could handle the work load if I connected directly with a USB cable and shared with wireless??? Also would there be a way to use the internal 4G for the share instead of wifi? What kind of throughput could be expected if using for 30-50gb files?
Thanks
Also - Is this the correct place to post this or is there a more appropriate area on the forum???
TGAMO said:
Good morning all,
I am wondering if there is a feasible way to use a droid phone as the processer to enable a usb JBOD to offer a network share for media storage.
Currently I am using 2 - 8 bay Probox devices with 3TB drives and would like them to be NAS devices for my 40+TB movie db. I was using a media player for the share, but now am having problems with the device and would like a cheap method to share my drives directly on my network. I do have several old droid phones. Does anyone know if the internal processor of a droid like a Galaxy 2 could handle the work load if I connected directly with a USB cable and shared with wireless??? Also would there be a way to use the internal 4G for the share instead of wifi? What kind of throughput could be expected if using for 30-50gb files?
Thanks
Also - Is this the correct place to post this or is there a more appropriate area on the forum???
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I'm not trying to be an a$$ but you posted this in the Droid DNA General section for the HTC Droid DNA. I'm pretty sure you can figure out that it probably isn't the correct area for your post considering that nothing you wrote has anything to do with the Droid DNA and you mentioned the Droid DNA at total of ZERO times!
I get what you want to do but it's not possible as there's no way to interface the phone to physical disks.. With the help of a Adruino/Raspberry Pi perhaps with some coding skills, etc but not just the phone itself. Sell the phone and build a small micro PC to do the job instead.
Edit: Mods, move this thread!
TGAMO said:
Good morning all,
I am wondering if there is a feasible way to use a droid phone as the processer to enable a usb JBOD to offer a network share for media storage.
Currently I am using 2 - 8 bay Probox devices with 3TB drives and would like them to be NAS devices for my 40+TB movie db. I was using a media player for the share, but now am having problems with the device and would like a cheap method to share my drives directly on my network. I do have several old droid phones. Does anyone know if the internal processor of a droid like a Galaxy 2 could handle the work load if I connected directly with a USB cable and shared with wireless??? Also would there be a way to use the internal 4G for the share instead of wifi? What kind of throughput could be expected if using for 30-50gb files?
Thanks
Also - Is this the correct place to post this or is there a more appropriate area on the forum???
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Why not just get a Netgear Wireless router w/readyshare. You can hook up a USB drive to the back, and share the data.
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My current portable hard drive apparently uses too much power for the galaxy tab.
Are there any 500gig + hard drives that use the same power as a thumb drive or is this just wishful thinking?
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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You will have to use an USB Hub with power supply. All spinning HDD's require much more power than the tablet is supplying.
I know it is not cheap, but you can today buy 128GB USB flash drives - they will work well and store also a lot of HD movies!
i am curious how you are connection your HD to the tab? if you are usign the usb host usb adapter, the little paper that came with it supports up to 32gb fat32 drives. i dont know if thats true or not, but if it is, you wont even be able to use a 128 usb flash drive as previously suggested.
i can confirm that a 32gb fat32 usb flash drive works, used with my sandisk cruiser 32
For portability the Seagate wireless drive would work.
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Satellite-Wireless-Storage-STBF500101-Black/dp/B004Z0S7K6
Using a powered hub will work just fine with portable hard drives. I have a 500GB Seagate that works very well
The USB 2.0 spec can only handle supplying 100mA x 5. So 500mA draw us the max it can supply to any drive. I don't know of any drives that are that low, might as well use a flash drive or SD card.
cleblanc92 said:
The USB 2.0 spec can only handle supplying 100mA x 5. So 500mA draw us the max it can supply to any drive. I don't know of any drives that are that low, might as well use a flash drive or SD card.
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Hosts are actually not required to supply 500 mA even. They are required to supply 100, and may negotiate up to 500 during device enumeration.
PCs that don't support 500 are extremely rare, but mobile devices with OTG are a different story - many are limited to 100. This seems to include our device.
2.5" spinning hard drives that use less than 500 can be found. Less than 100 is not possible.
As to the 32GB limit - I have no idea why that's in the flyer, other than maybe the fact that it's VERY rare to see drives above this size formatted as FAT since Windows refuses to format drives of this size as FAT.
I have a 120GB WD external drive that works fine on my netbook (single USB port cable) I'll have to pick up a USB adapter and try it.
IIRC as the size (GB) of the drive goes up so does it's power draw.
Has anybody tried a 1.8" drive from an MP3 player?
Power consumption
Start 1.8W (max.)
Seek 0.9W (typ.)
Read/Write 0.8W (typ.)
Low power Idle 0.3W (typ.)
Stand-by 0.1W (typ.)
Though I suppose this Thread is kinda dead...I'd still like to know if there is a way to connect harddrives bigger than 32GB (and to format a Fat32 driver bigger than 32GB). Wish to stream media from my tablet to the PS3 and other players via Skifta...but I don't want to buy harddrives randomly, hoping they will work.
Tried with different USB Drives I have at home, but none works (well, NTFS of course).
Has anyone tried a bigger driver via powered USB Hub yet?
Or 64GB Sticks etc?
Cheers,
J.
i use a samsung hd 750 GB via powered hub, works great.
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Sounds awesome! So, I suppose any powered hub works. Did you format the HD in any specific way or by the help of some fancy software (just wondering as I think Fat32 cannot be formatted under Win7 if the harddisk exceeded size x) ?
Thanks
hoodie said:
Though I suppose this Thread is kinda dead...I'd still like to know if there is a way to connect harddrives bigger than 32GB (and to format a Fat32 driver bigger than 32GB). Wish to stream media from my tablet to the PS3 and other players via Skifta...but I don't want to buy harddrives randomly, hoping they will work.
Tried with different USB Drives I have at home, but none works (well, NTFS of course).
Has anyone tried a bigger driver via powered USB Hub yet?
Or 64GB Sticks etc?
Cheers,
J.
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If your tab is rooted you can get "usb mass storage otg" from the market which support your ntfs formatted drives no need for fat 32 crap anymore!
achaayan said:
If your tab is rooted you can get "usb mass storage otg" from the market which support your ntfs formatted drives no need for fat 32 crap anymore!
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Hi,
would you mind to sharing the apk with us ? as i tried to install from market an said that my device not compatible. thank you very much in advance.
almith said:
Hi,
would you mind to sharing the apk with us ? as i tried to install from market an said that my device not compatible. thank you very much in advance.
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I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
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achaayan said:
I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
Edit:think i figured how to go around. Find attaches the. Apk file. I found a few seconds delay while first opening. Also sometimes i had to reopen the app to allow root acces.because it didnt ask for root access on first run. Apart from the first run, its a breeze afterwords
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achaayan said:
achaayan said:
I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
Edit:think i figured how to go around. Find attaches the. Apk file. I found a few seconds delay while first opening. Also sometimes i had to reopen the app to allow root acces.because it didnt ask for root access on first run. Apart from the first run, its a breeze afterwords
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very kind of you, thank you very much!
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So it's true, you actually have to format your 500GB drive as FAT32 to get it working?
I guess this means no HD movies (files bigger than 4 GB) right?
i plug in the lod fashioned 3.5hdd externally powered and ntfs formatted,
not able to connect 2.5hdds yet. if anyone was successful,what is powered usb hub used, i was not able to connect using a local brand of powered usb hub.
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i use a samsung hd 750 GB via powered hub, works great.
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did you use a 2.5" hdd. what is the usb hub that you used ?
1) So I am basically wondering if it's possible to transfer files between the Galaxy S3 and PS3. I would prefer to do this by simply plugging a cord into the S3 and PS3 like I did for my Droid X. I know the S3 doesn't have Mass Storage like my DX did, so I am not sure if it is still possible.
2) Also, I have a 64GB microSD card formatted in fat32 that I used in my DX. I would rather not have to reformat the card. Will fat32 work in the S3? I don't really anticipate having a file over 4GB. So other than that, are there any other big advantages of using exFAT over fat32?
3) I know I need a new HDMI adapter for the S3 because of the different pin connection. However, I have heard that it's not possible to use a 720p TV with the S3, even with this new adapter. My good 1080 TVs are in the basement and living room. I have a basic 720p TV in my bedroom. That's the TV I would want to use the HDMI mirroring on the most. Is that just not a possibility with this phone?
I searched quite a bit trying to find answers to these questions. I never got any solid answers.
Thanks!
Some Answers
In case anyone was wondering, I have been told the following:
1) There's not an easy, direct way to transfer files to/from the PS3.
2) It doesn't really matter what format the card is in.
3) I can't use HDMI mirroring on a 720p television.
guitar_capo said:
1) So I am basically wondering if it's possible to transfer files between the Galaxy S3 and PS3. I would prefer to do this by simply plugging a cord into the S3 and PS3 like I did for my Droid X. I know the S3 doesn't have Mass Storage like my DX did, so I am not sure if it is still possible.
2) Also, I have a 64GB microSD card formatted in fat32 that I used in my DX. I would rather not have to reformat the card. Will fat32 work in the S3? I don't really anticipate having a file over 4GB. So other than that, are there any other big advantages of using exFAT over fat32?
3) I know I need a new HDMI adapter for the S3 because of the different pin connection. However, I have heard that it's not possible to use a 720p TV with the S3, even with this new adapter. My good 1080 TVs are in the basement and living room. I have a basic 720p TV in my bedroom. That's the TV I would want to use the HDMI mirroring on the most. Is that just not a possibility with this phone?
I searched quite a bit trying to find answers to these questions. I never got any solid answers.
Thanks!
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Hey did you ever figure it out? I have been wondering the same thing. I have files on my Galaxy s3 that I would like to transfer with a cable and not through WiFi.. It was so easy to do with my HTC EVO 4G to just connect and transfer. Please let me know thanks
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Hey did you ever figure it out? I have been wondering the same thing. I have files on my Galaxy s3 that I would like to transfer with a cable and not through WiFi.. It was so easy to do with my HTC EVO 4G to just connect and transfer. Please let me know thanks
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I essentially gave up. I just burn a disc on my computer or save the files to a flash drive and use those instead. Or, I connect my MHL cord to my TV and just watch use HDMI mirroring to watch the files.
I think that's the only way to do it. I doubt that's the answer you wanted to hear, but that's the best I can do, haha.
Incidentally, I did get my MHL cable to work on 720p TVs.
I'm getting one for my mum but her tv only has av in(rca composite). Gonna use wifi.
So far I've narrowed down my search to these:
MK808c
http://dx.com/p/mk808c-android-4-2-...wifi-allwinner-a20-tf-hdmi-white-black-241974
B13
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/B13-...ual-core-1G-8G-BT-WiFi-Build-in-2-0MP-Camera-
With-AV-Port-HDMI-brown-314429.html
UG008B
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/EU-P...ore-1G-8G-HDMI-BT-AV-Output-RJ-45-314808.html
(needs cable, does this work? http://dx.com/p/4-pin-3-5mm-minijack-to-3-x-rca-composite-av-cable-1-25-meter-10633)
I think the UG008B is the best out of these.
Mk808c has a processor thats a bit slower and no external wifi connector.
B13 is so small it might overheat but it has a build in webcam and microphone which is a nice extra feature.
UG008b has a rj45 which might come in handy later on.
What do you think? Any other recommendations or comments on these devices?
Hi I ordered the T-R42 It has AV-out and nice hardware.And the developers are going to support it.If you don`t need bluetooth you can buy the K-R42
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Hi I ordered the T-R42 It has AV-out and nice hardware.And the developers are going to support it.If you don`t need bluetooth you can buy the K-R42
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Hmm that one seems nice too.
What about this one? No brand= don't buy?
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Android-4-2-..._Internet_Media_Streamers&hash=item53f878bb6e
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Hi I ordered the T-R42 It has AV-out and nice hardware.And the developers are going to support it.If you don`t need bluetooth you can buy the K-R42
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Hi there. Im debating on the R42. Did you get it in yet? My biggest concern is Lan speeds ( Not wireless ). I was told in another forum that the CX-921 which also has the rk3188 only gets 6-7 Mbps while on a wires connection. I plan on replacing my core2quad rig as a server with a low power android solution.
Ill be running an SSH server, web server, DynDNS updater, Torrent, VNC, Maybe personal FTP - SMB Access, DLNA , and hopefully VPN when its available. Ive already gotten most things working using my Tegra2 Acer A500 so I know its possible. Servers Ultimate Pro is a pretty decent set of server tools. Primarily though it will be my personal web host along with SSH access from home as I use SSH with a port redirect to create proxies while at work. Network bandwidth is a crucial concern.
My issue on the Acer is the network speed ( And lags torrenting ) . It struggles keeping up with everything. I debated on a Lan to USB adapter, but I dont plan on actually using it for this purpose. My 4 year old wasn't behaving so I grounded him from it..... Testing things in the meantime
Ive looked at some of the RK3188 devices, as well as the Mele A1000G which has the allwinner A31 CPU paired with a SATA cradle on top ( A BIG plus but I am torn as I need something that will run 24/7 and be stable.
Thanks!!!
I ordered the kr42. If you want I can measure lan speed when its delivered.
kadooosh said:
I ordered the kr42. If you want I can measure lan speed when its delivered.
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I would highly appreciate that. Its one of the models im considering
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pyraxiate said:
Hi there. Im debating on the R42. Did you get it in yet? My biggest concern is Lan speeds ( Not wireless ). I was told in another forum that the CX-921 which also has the rk3188 only gets 6-7 Mbps while on a wires connection. I plan on replacing my core2quad rig as a server with a low power android solution.
Ill be running an SSH server, web server, DynDNS updater, Torrent, VNC, Maybe personal FTP - SMB Access, DLNA , and hopefully VPN when its available. Ive already gotten most things working using my Tegra2 Acer A500 so I know its possible. Servers Ultimate Pro is a pretty decent set of server tools. Primarily though it will be my personal web host along with SSH access from home as I use SSH with a port redirect to create proxies while at work. Network bandwidth is a crucial concern.
My issue on the Acer is the network speed ( And lags torrenting ) . It struggles keeping up with everything. I debated on a Lan to USB adapter, but I dont plan on actually using it for this purpose. My 4 year old wasn't behaving so I grounded him from it..... Testing things in the meantime
Ive looked at some of the RK3188 devices, as well as the Mele A1000G which has the allwinner A31 CPU paired with a SATA cradle on top ( A BIG plus but I am torn as I need something that will run 24/7 and be stable.
Thanks!!!
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Hi!
I didn't get it yet I`m expecting it to arrive next week,when i get it I`m going to test that for you,In the meantime you can ask somebody on freaktab about the LAN speed
pyraxiate said:
I would highly appreciate that. Its one of the models im considering
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I tried copying something on lan with ES explorer and it copied at only 3.5mb/sec
So not really fast..
kadooosh said:
I tried copying something on lan with ES explorer and it copied at only 3.5mb/sec
So not really fast..
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Ouch. What a bummer. I guess im going to go the route of ddwrt or tomato at this point. What a shame as I found server software I could use for most of my needs :/
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kadooosh said:
I tried copying something on lan with ES explorer and it copied at only 3.5mb/sec
So not really fast..
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what were you copying to and from? could be the bottleneck was the memory card you were copying to. a class 4 memory card will only give you max rate of about 4 mb per second.
Dinaxe said:
Hi I ordered the
T-R42 It has AV-out and nice hardware.And the developers are going to support it.If you don`t need bluetooth you can buy the K-R42
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Thanks!
kadooosh said:
I tried copying something on lan with ES explorer and it copied at only 3.5mb/sec
So not really fast..
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Hi again. Could you do a speed test and see what you get? Im thinking tekweezle might be right about the maximum write speed of where you are copying to/from sdcard wise. Im more looking for bandwidth capability so speetest by ookla might show me more specifically. Thanks again!
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Hello. Ive been following a few threads on here and was wondering if anyone has any first hand experience with LAN speeds on any of the Mini PC type devices. I could care less about the wifi as i plan on using it to replace my power hungry core2quad server. I figure for my uses, something with an RK3188 at 1.6 paired with 2Gb ram should perform well for what I need.
Ill be running an SSH server, web server, DynDNS updater, Torrent, VNC, Maybe personal FTP - SMB Access, DLNA , and hopefully VPN when its available. Ive already gotten most things working using my Tegra2 Acer A500 so I know its possible. Servers Ultimate Pro is a pretty decent set of server tools. Primarily though it will be my personal web host along with SSH access from home as I use SSH with a port redirect to create proxies while at work. Network bandwidth is a crucial concern.
My issue on the Acer is the network speed ( And lags torrenting ) . It struggles keeping up with everything. I debated on a Lan to USB adapter, but I dont plan on actually using it for this purpose. My 4 year old wasn't behaving so I grounded him from it..... Testing things in the meantime
Ive looked at some of the RK3188 devices, as well as the Mele A1000G which has the allwinner A31 CPU paired with a SATA cradle on top ( A BIG plus as its supposedly a native Sata card and not a USB to Sata type ). I asked in another forum about the CX-921 RK3188 device and he said his Lan speeds were only 6-7 Mbps....... Definitely not acceptable for my purposes.
Does anyone have any thoughts, opinions, recommendations, or first hand knowledge?
As you can see by my history here, I am not a novice...... been around a while. Hopefully you dont see this thread as a " Noob " looking for what to buy lol.
pyraxiate said:
Ive looked at some of the RK3188 devices, as well as the Mele A1000G which has the allwinner A31 CPU paired with a SATA cradle on top ( A BIG plus as its supposedly a native Sata card and not a USB to Sata type ). I asked in another forum about the CX-921 RK3188 device and he said his Lan speeds were only 6-7 Mbps....... Definitely not acceptable for my purposes.
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actually not even a31 got data lines for directly drive a sata interface or gigabit ethernet, you need to fall down to a20
search infos about CubieTruck.
NixZero said:
actually not even a31 got data lines for directly drive a sata interface or gigabit ethernet, you need to fall down to a20
search infos about CubieTruck.
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http://www.tinydeal.com/mele-a1000g-android-41-tv-box-w-hdmi-rj45-audio-sata-2g16g-p-99413.html
Must be usb to sata internally. Still a nice design. Regardless...... a31 supports gigabit ethernet according to its chip designer. Im more interested in bandwidth / stability than sata. USB to sata adapters should still support 60/70 Mbps Data read rate. Thanks for the info though
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Pyraxiate,
Let me ask you something - could you be able to boot the Android inside Mini PC without HDMI connection ? Because I also intent to use Servers Ultimate Pro inside my MK 809ii as a PC CAR to serve as collector and orchestrator of all things and publish the navigation and information via HTML5 server to an iPAD mini as console ... but I'm not able to boot it without HDMI + keyboard + mouse connection ... HELP
pyraxiate said:
Hello. Ive been following a few threads on here and was wondering if anyone has any first hand experience with LAN speeds on any of the Mini PC type devices. I could care less about the wifi as i plan on using it to replace my power hungry core2quad server. I figure for my uses, something with an RK3188 at 1.6 paired with 2Gb ram should perform well for what I need.
Ill be running an SSH server, web server, DynDNS updater, Torrent, VNC, Maybe personal FTP - SMB Access, DLNA , and hopefully VPN when its available. Ive already gotten most things working using my Tegra2 Acer A500 so I know its possible. Servers Ultimate Pro is a pretty decent set of server tools. Primarily though it will be my personal web host along with SSH access from home as I use SSH with a port redirect to create proxies while at work. Network bandwidth is a crucial concern.
My issue on the Acer is the network speed ( And lags torrenting ) . It struggles keeping up with everything. I debated on a Lan to USB adapter, but I dont plan on actually using it for this purpose. My 4 year old wasn't behaving so I grounded him from it..... Testing things in the meantime
Ive looked at some of the RK3188 devices, as well as the Mele A1000G which has the allwinner A31 CPU paired with a SATA cradle on top ( A BIG plus as its supposedly a native Sata card and not a USB to Sata type ). I asked in another forum about the CX-921 RK3188 device and he said his Lan speeds were only 6-7 Mbps....... Definitely not acceptable for my purposes.
Does anyone have any thoughts, opinions, recommendations, or first hand knowledge?
As you can see by my history here, I am not a novice...... been around a while. Hopefully you dont see this thread as a " Noob " looking for what to buy lol.
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The 90s called Asus about them returning the usb2.0 speeds, but I guess no one at the company picked the phone, and now the zenfone 9 is stuck with that.
Or maybe Asus systems designers thought, "let's keep it smaller by saving usb 3.0 or 3.1 speeds because via wifi 6e the phone is already able of doing up to 9.6gbps speeds and wifi is the future."
Can someone do some benchmarks on wifi 6, by locally transferring some big files, and post their results? This is kind of an important factor to know for people who are thinking of shooting many 8k videos, or (what I am thinking of) edit 360 videos via insta360 app, and then being able to transfer large files to the pc.
usb2.0 to transfer those large files is a deal breaker, absence of sd card slot with good speeds could be an alternative, but no: We are left with the wireless options that, theoretically, are the answer but in practice I'd like to see some tests.
Thanks!
Eduardomcp said:
The 90s called Asus about them returning the usb2.0 speeds, but I guess no one at the company picked the phone, and now the zenfone 9 is stuck with that.
Or maybe Asus systems designers thought, "let's keep it smaller by saving usb 3.0 or 3.1 speeds because via wifi 6e the phone is already able of doing up to 9.6gbps speeds and wifi is the future."
Can someone do some benchmarks on wifi 6, by locally transferring some big files, and post their results? This is kind of an important factor to know for people who are thinking of shooting many 8k videos, or (what I am thinking of) edit 360 videos via insta360 app, and then being able to transfer large files to the pc.
usb2.0 to transfer those large files is a deal breaker, absence of sd card slot with good speeds could be an alternative, but no: We are left with the wireless options that, theoretically, are the answer but in practice I'd like to see some tests.
Thanks!
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All Xiaomi devices even with 12S Ultra also only USB 2.0, OnePlus 10T and even iPhone 14 for example. There are more devices with old spec USB than you might think.
Back to the wifi transfer. I only have wifi 6. Using Asus file transfer and I got about 20 MB/s.
Maybe there is a better way but for now that's what I got
be sure to turn on dual band wifi to maybe get your wifi to hit a gigabit.