Cm9 & cm10 differences? - Optimus One, P500, V General

What's some differences in cm10...I've not flashed a cm10 rom yet and I was just curious? Is there any difference in how the UI functions?
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No difference in the UI.. just the performance of jelly bean is better
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CM9: Based on Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4
CM10: Based on Jelly Bean 4.1 - 4..2
Apart from the difference in upgraded Android OS versions, Jelly bean holds a smooth UI with improved notification support and performance. It also adds some cool framework features like the notification dropdown which has been improved significantly. To sum up, if you are willing for stability go for CM9 which can be used as a daily driver but If you want drastic improvements with some bugs to compromise with, choose CM10. On this note, I would also state that bugs are being solved at a speed and so will you get a bugless CM10 soon. Thanks to Rashed, adfad666 & Bytecode.

I tried Rashed's and adfad666 CM10 ROMS and the only difference I found aside of the notification bar was the version number and the countless bugs. ._. !

All jb roms have terrible battery life atm. If you use WiFi a lot that alone is a no go.
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Jrhodes85 said:
What's some differences in cm10...I've not flashed a cm10 rom yet and I was just curious? Is there any difference in how the UI functions?
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Here is a very good link for important features of all android versions (GB, HC, ICS and JB) summarized with visuals:
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html

> Nothings is PERFECT, so we must learn to be satisfied.

neko95 said:
> Nothings is PERFECT, so we must learn to be satisfied.
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yes, we should be happy to get ICS and JB running on a low end device

neko95 said:
> Nothings is PERFECT, so we must learn to be satisfied.
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Agreed :good:

Google now in Cm 10 is great thing
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[Xperia S] What is the best ROM so far for your phone?

In terms of battery use, deep sleep and speed of reaction, RAM availability?
I used to have the Xcream, atm I'm on Dualcore 5.1, and I think I miss it...
What impression did you have?
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Cm9 best rom so fas stable clean fast!
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It's subjective obviously.. I love KA and CM the most
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MasterLinuxer said:
It's subjective obviously.. I love KA and CM the most
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This.
cyanogenmod 9.1 i very stable and fast
cm 10 is faster than cm9 but has some bugs in it .
The free xperia project made this available to us :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780338
by far this is the best ROM i've used if i helped you my friend please press the thanks button
Jay-kesrwani said:
cyanogenmod 9.1 i very stable and fast
cm 10 is faster than cm9 but has some bugs in it .
The free xperia project made this available to us :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780338
by far this is the best ROM i've used if i helped you my friend please press the thanks button
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I see, Jay, you think I'm a n00b...
I just wanted to start a discussion.
I think I know what I'm talking about mostly...
Just that since fxp130 cm10 there wasn't a ROM I really liked...
And fxp >130 don't have any camera abilities. At least 130 had no preview but it still took pictures.
That's why I posted this...
Stock rom with bloatware removed , xsspeed kernel
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Stock .45 NL +Rooted.
Everything works like it should. Even Camera and HDMI
For me With the Latest Firmware
Its Xcream 3 2.0 with Battery Tweak and a little Build.prop Edit
But the best
I think its the MoOded ICS 90.7 (Stoped Dev)
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Bringing up the thread to ask again, so far the best rom experience in terms of stability, smoothness, battery life and specially best camera experience.
Also i'd like to know which is the way to go right now, ics or jb roms?
Vaizen said:
Bringing up the thread to ask again, so far the best rom experience in terms of stability, smoothness, battery life and specially best camera experience.
Also i'd like to know which is the way to go right now, ics or jb roms?
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Xperia S has a separate Forum now
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Best Rom :D?

i know i know you guys will look at me and say things like "wtf you asking this for now!!" 
The benchmarks post and test all roms page hasnt been updated since 12 days ago and before i say anythiong i tried all roms seriously no joke but havent tried the new updates for most ics roms since 3 weeks ago but im currently on gxg jelly bread and love the rom for playing games but still gingerbread is kinda boring and i see all mods and new stuff coming out is for ics
can any just tell me which is the best rom?
im thinking between superleggera, jellysandwhich, iced bean and flylight....
and again sorry for asking but i need just some advice
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Nothing against the devs of ICS ROMs but ICS can never be as good as JB. Tried PACman and it's amazing. Btw I've tried every single ROM and I say this one's the best. But try all of them, it's worth it.
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I've been using flylight for a while now and can strongly recommend it. As a base Rom it's clean and fast and it has coped with all the mods I've layered on top
The other approach is to choose something like jelly sandwich; with its aroma installer you have your choice of all the best mods out there.
As far as I can tell all of the 587 roms are pretty tight so it really is a choice between a stripped Rom like fly light or s fully featured one like jelly sandwich.
Don't discount CM either the ics build is excellent imo.
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Parkside said:
I've been using flylight for a while now and can strongly recommend it. As a base Rom it's clean and fast and it has coped with all the mods I've layered on top
The other approach is to choose something like jelly sandwich; with its aroma installer you have your choice of all the best mods out there.
As far as I can tell all of the 587 roms are pretty tight so it really is a choice between a stripped Rom like fly light or s fully featured one like jelly sandwich.
Don't discount CM either the ics build is excellent imo.
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+1 for flylight. everything works lightning fast
also can try SuperleggeraV3 !
PAC alpha 11.2. Best for daily use. Lots of customization! Go for it
My favorites are JellySandwich and Aires repacked by 4pda.ru rom (gb).
Miui if you want customization... or flylight or jellyswandwich for performance!!!
Haven't checked out iced yet !!!
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Fantomas. said:
Nothing against the devs of ICS ROMs but ICS can never be as good as JB. Tried PACman and it's amazing. Btw I've tried every single ROM and I say this one's the best. But try all of them, it's worth it.
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i think pac is the worst one jb rom
fxp140 is better
pa is the best
+1 for PACman with latest update. Recent update fixed front camera issue and now good for a daily rom!
urushi my love said:
i think pac is the worst one jb rom
fxp140 is better
pa is the best
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which version of PAC did you try?
i'm verry happy with PAC alpha 11 +1st patch.
verry responsive, fast (3200 antutu @ 806/134mhz) many many options and good battery life
(in alpha 10 battery life was bad, 11 is very good).
Hey guys I really appreciate for this advice thank you
I'm on jellysandwich now 6.2 and it still has bugs and I feel that its slow don't know why but whatever. I'm going to try superleggera now than flylight and than ill make my choice. Pac and fxp don't work since they are cm based don't why but both of them give me fc android.phone.process I believe its sim related because I can't get a single bar of reception. If I put it on airplane mod I don't get fc
Anyways thanx guys but please keep on replying on your favorite rom thanx
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I'm using Superleggera V3 myself and for now is the fastest ROM i've tested. Just my 2 cents.
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And I'm back to gxg jellybread looks and feels great
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demez said:
I'm using Superleggera V3 myself and for now is the fastest ROM i've tested. Just my 2 cents.
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Jess
Superleggera V3 is the Best ROM i've tried.......
Supracer said:
Hey guys I really appreciate for this advice thank you
I'm on jellysandwich now 6.2 and it still has bugs and I feel that its slow don't know why but whatever. I'm going to try superleggera now than flylight and than ill make my choice. Pac and fxp don't work since they are cm based don't why but both of them give me fc android.phone.process I believe its sim related because I can't get a single bar of reception. If I put it on airplane mod I don't get fc
Anyways thanx guys but please keep on replying on your favorite rom thanx
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Try with a new fix, personally i didnt have problems with JellySandwich (except wifi obtaining ip problem in first versions)
Apsolutely smooth on 800Mhz, deep undervolted, Antutu benchmark 4295 (on 1,4 ghz)
6.2 is not yet polished, maybe you can try 5.0 (bug free)
urushi my love said:
i think pac is the worst one jb rom
fxp140 is better
pa is the best
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What's wrong with PAC?! It's got everything PA and FXP have. It's like a hybrid of those + aokp.
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Fantomas. said:
What's wrong with PAC?! It's got everything PA and FXP have. It's like a hybrid of those + aokp.
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Well for me I always get force close with android.phone.process when I put with sim card, and without sim card it works perfect. All rims work with my phone except for Roms that have cyangenmod
In it
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for me i like FXP CM 9.1 and MIUI ROM
since other ROM ROM just a stock ROM has been strip down and tweaked...
The AOKP on its own gave me really bad graphical errors, though PAC worked fine. BUT for MMS problems......
Tried a few of the other ICS roms.. Jelly, Opti, MIUI(liked the least), Pureness, HD......
I really like Opti and Jelly Sandwich6.2(not tried the newer one) For now I have settled on CM9.1

HyperbeamBean Features request

Hi guys,my last version of Hyperbeam will be based on JB cm10
Features
Performance:
Supercharged
Lots of Performance Improvements
Build.prop tweaks
New Scripts
Updated Drivers
Removed useless apps
More
Maybe some new better looking apps
Because i think AOSP look is best
If you have requests post it here
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KhemaraS. said:
Hi guys,my last version of Hyperbeam will be based on JB cm10
Features
Performance:
Supercharged
Lots of Performance Improvements
Build.prop tweaks
New Scripts
Updated Drivers
Removed useless apps
More
Maybe some new better looking apps
Because i think AOSP look is best
If you have requests post it here
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Im fully up for clean AOSP with possibility of nav bar(optional).Clean,fast AOSP
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shadik555 said:
Im fully up for clean AOSP with possibility of nav bar(optional).Clean,fast AOSP
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Ok clean fast and smooth jellybean good idea
I have an important question:
how can choose between performance of roms ?
benchmarks ?
here is my experience
on your sperience rom antutu gave me 3200+ score while 3d was about 960 and etc...
on hyperbeam cream it gaves me 3400+
that mean ICS is better even 3d on ics was 1100
but the performance of gaming was worst !!!!
so how can we expect a bout jelly bean ?
is it better than ICS (on this way)or such kind of the same ?
actually everyone needs performance beside of visual not reverse
can you explain.
thank you
masoudr said:
I have an important question:
how can choose between performance of roms ?
benchmarks ?
here is my experience
on your sperience rom antutu gave me 3200+ score while 3d was about 960 and etc...
on hyperbeam cream it gaves me 3400+
that mean ICS is better even 3d on ics was 1100
but the performance of gaming was worst !!!!
so how can we expect a bout jelly bean ?
is it better than ICS (on this way)or such kind of the same ?
actually everyone needs performance beside of visual not reverse
can you explain.
thank you
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Your theorie is bad.jelly bean has parts that make it 40 - 60 % faster then ics.there is a high possibility that jelly bean,and the sonys jelly bean,will be significatly faster then ics.
EDIT:i had 4400 on antutu without any tweaks,only oc to 1.6 ghz.STOCK ICS 587
masoudr said:
I have an important question:
how can choose between performance of roms ?
benchmarks ?
here is my experience
on your sperience rom antutu gave me 3200+ score while 3d was about 960 and etc...
on hyperbeam cream it gaves me 3400+
that mean ICS is better even 3d on ics was 1100
but the performance of gaming was worst !!!!
so how can we expect a bout jelly bean ?
is it better than ICS (on this way)or such kind of the same ?
actually everyone needs performance beside of visual not reverse
can you explain.
thank you
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Like shadik already said jb is now even smoother and faster than ics but its not fully stable yet,about gaming,its the panic kernel that gives you a great benchmark score,and gaming forme was smooth but sometimes it lags for a little time,gb was designed for our devices it gives us the best performance till now,but i think jb could be better if it gets stable
shadik555 said:
Your theorie is bad.jelly bean has parts that make it 40 - 60 % faster then ics.there is a high possibility that jelly bean,and the sonys jelly bean,will be significatly faster then ics.
EDIT:i had 4400 on antutu without any tweaks,only oc to 1.6 ghz.STOCK ICS 587
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I know that jelly has better performance but i said is it better than GB ?!
however my score benchmarkes was taken without any OC.
and I think comparing by benchmarks is good for the version of rom not all of versions.
I mean comparing for GB ,ICS and etc.
not together
masoudr said:
I know that jelly has better performance but i said is it better than GB ?!
however my score benchmarkes was taken without any OC.
and I think comparing by benchmarks is good for the version of rom not all of versions.
I mean comparing for GB ,ICS and etc.
not together
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it can be as fast and smooth like gb but i dont know about gaming,gb ist still the best for gaming
KhemaraS. said:
it can be as fast and smooth like gb but i dont know about gaming,gb ist still the best for gaming
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So performance give benefits only for games right ?
and for example when I scroll on menu in GB it is smoother than ICS.
I know that the frame of ICS is better but it is a bit lags and I think it is because of processor.
masoudr said:
So performance give benefits only for games right ?
and for example when I scroll on menu in GB it is smoother than ICS.
I know that the frame of ICS is better but it is a bit lags and I think it is because of processor.
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As i read on one page,dont rember where,but it said that jelly bean is smoother cuz it is using gpu,or something similar for scrolling.and as for gaming.i experience NO LAGS ON ANY 3D GAME,EVEN HD ONES ON HYPERBEAMCREAM.
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shadik555 said:
As i read on one page,dont rember where,but it said that jelly bean is smoother cuz it is using gpu,or something similar for scrolling.and as for gaming.i experience NO LAGS ON ANY 3D GAME,EVEN HD ONES ON HYPERBEAMCREAM.
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the hyperbeam cream is best ICS rom that i ever see.
and I dont said that it lags.but sperience is much better on performance and I got 3200 score that until now I havent reach it on any custom roms.
but on some games like dead trigger it smooth on high quality and besides I use swap
but in ICS swap doesnt work.
masoudr said:
the hyperbeam cream is best ICS rom that i ever see.
and I dont said that it lags.but sperience is much better on performance and I got 3200 score that until now I havent reach it on any custom roms.
but on some games like dead trigger it smooth on high quality and besides I use swap
but in ICS swap doesnt work.
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It works!!!i use it,and it even works on cm10 :__:
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shadik555 said:
It works!!!i use it,and it even works on cm10 :__:
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how ?
I use darktermor script for GB roms and it works well.
on ICS i use lin2sd but swap ?!!!
i have the partition on my sd but it doesnt enabled yet
anonymous told me to use mount2script but it doesnt work.
how you enable that ?
please type in terminal:
#su
#free
and see what happens and let me know
thanks
masoudr said:
how ?
I use darktermor script for GB roms and it works well.
on ICS i use lin2sd but swap ?!!!
i have the partition on my sd but it doesnt enabled yet
anonymous told me to use mount2script but it doesnt work.
how you enable that ?
please type in terminal:
#su
#free
and see what happens and let me know
thanks
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Listen
I installed cm10
it lagged a little
I downloaded ram manager free from playstore
then i set to BALANCE
lag reduced a bit
Then i went to bottom
and saw SWAP button
I pressed it
selected 256 mb
and phone became lagles.if swap dont work,then blow me down...
!!!!!!!!BUT LETS GO BACK TO THE TOPIC!!!!!!!!
When it will release this ?
I want it LOL
And then can you make the contact , phone and messaging look like cm10( like nexus) ?
Not the official SONY one, because I think cm10's is better and cool
Or it is other ways to install those 3 as apk in your future rom?
I personally love Sony apps and widgets ! Soy apps on AOSP would be nice :thumbup:
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samajid said:
I personally love Sony apps and widgets ! Soy apps on AOSP would be nice :thumbup:
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You have jellyvanilla for that
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shadik555 said:
You have jellyvanilla for that
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Yesah thats true and if i use sony apps we cant use the themes for cm10,i modified now the look heres changelog
Based on latest CM10
Geeky engine
Swap2cache
Build.prop tweaks
Removed lots off apps(only one page off appdrawer is filled with apps )
Visual
Modified AOSP LOOK
-Black/Blue:
Play Store
Messaging App
Dialer
Google Play (Music Player)
Calendar
Fixed Camera (But only one camera in appdrawer
More
All in all Clean ,Fast, Modified CM10
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KhemaraS. said:
Yesah thats true and if i use sony apps we cant use the themes for cm10,i modified now the look heres changelog
Based on latest CM10
Geeky engine
Swap2cache
Build.prop tweaks
Removed lots off apps(only one page off appdrawer is filled with apps )
Visual
Modified AOSP LOOK
-Black/Blue:
Play Store
Messaging App
Dialer
Google Play (Music Player)
Calendar
Fixed Camera (But only one camera in appdrawer
More
All in all Clean ,Fast, Modified CM10
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I hated two cameras in the drawer.hope you release it this week xD
:drool:
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shadik555 said:
I hated two cameras in the drawer.hope you release it this week xD
:drool:
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Heres my solution: install camera fix,freeze the not working cam and install gallery ics from market
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CM10 vs AOKP?

Which one do you prefer and why? just curious
I prefer CM10 just because I'm used to it, but AOKP has way more customization options and overall performance seems better.
Kattra said:
I prefer CM10 just because I'm used to it, but AOKP has way more customization options and overall performance seems better.
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yea same here. I couldnt get over the status bar toggles in aokp but got used to aokp now lol. Tho i still wish the toggles icons could have a dimmer color like in cm10
Try Slim AOKP jellaxy by android_united
its awesome and no bugs at all
deep sleep works after using camera
camera works
everything works.
Ace King 34 said:
Try Slim AOKP jellaxy by android_united
its awesome and no bugs at all
deep sleep works after using camera
camera works
everything works.
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Link to that would be appreciated
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bamboo' said:
Link to that would be appreciated
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Searching would be appreciated. But for me I'm onto AOKP. It is CM but with more features.
bamboo' said:
Link to that would be appreciated
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here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958867
next time please use search before asking
regards.
AK34
Yup i agree it has more features and its more smoother than cm. Atleast faster than the last cm10 release i used (5 oct i think). Most noticably the notification pulldown comes more smoother.
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i prefer aokp since it would be actually stabler then cm10
cm10 needs hacks and mods in source to run on armv6
and aokp has already sources for armv6 builds
native armv6 support by AOKP? ?
what does AOKP have/do what CM10 does not (-have)?
afaik its the same OS having the same problems for eg: cam/pics/HQvids....
but im no dev....
CoolCatGetHome said:
i prefer aokp since it would be actually stabler then cm10
cm10 needs hacks and mods in source to run on armv6
and aokp has already sources for armv6 builds
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that makes sense. I guess then in aokp they would have less workarounds to make stuff work
I prefer the AOKP it has more customization
Impulse1020 said:
I prefer the AOKP it has more customization
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It might sound kinda silly but for all of AOKP's smoothness I prefer CM10 mainly because I have the option to remap the buttons. I prefer to use the menu key as a recent apps button thing and my home button lost its sensitivity so yeah I do prefer CM10. Apart from that the toggles look so much better.
AOKP + PIMP MY ROM. Cant get better than this.
AOKP + nims11 JB Kernel + V6 Supercharger + Pimp My Rom = The Best
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AOKP + nims11 JB Kernel + V6 Supercharger + Pimp My Rom = The Best
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some of the tweaks from supercharger and p.m.r might clash
Do I cheat if I say PAC?
I prefer Cyanogenmod. It's a bigger community and has more support. Aokp is something that doesn't really add much for me. Most of the time I'm on the stock CM/aosp look anyway.
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some of the tweaks from supercharger and p.m.r might clash
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That's what I thought too. But even using only nims11 JB kernel and pimp my rom, battery life still not so good. Except from that, AOKP is great!
I prefer AOKP because of its smoothness and speed. The only thing that puts me off AOKP is the battery life, because I find it hard to get through one day without charging the battery.
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I'm on PAC. If the battery sucks, check whether the cpu is deep sleeping or not.

CM9 or GB-Rocks?

Opinions please? As a stable, fast responsive daily rom
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Well CM10 after camera fix ,I found this most smooth and responsive ROM.
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True but I need bug free and cm10 doesn't offer that yet
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Well, it's tough to go back to GB after you've used ICS for a while. That said, it's really up to you and your preferences whether you want to use GB or ICS.
Personally, I would prefer CM9, because it is more customizable than stock GB. But don't let my words make the decision for you.
Try out both the ROMs, see which one you like and make your decision.
Good luck. :good:
In my opinion sony ics is absolutely poo. Is cm9 really that much better tho?
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gb rocks pros: more free ram, loud volume, really stable
cm9 pros: ics features, better camera, smoother
also, if i remember correctly, there's a rom that combines a cm9 core with some features from cm10 and cm10.1. you may want to give it a shot!
Why? I used ics with sliding kernel, the best you can get from sola. I just removed some apps and it run couple of months without hiccups.
No mods except cyber shot and fidelity. Fluid, stable and awesome battery life and the best, fully featured, everything working fine.
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matood said:
Why? I used ics with sliding kernel, the best you can get from sola. I just removed some apps and it run couple of months without hiccups.
No mods except cyber shot and fidelity. Fluid, stable and awesome battery life and the best, fully featured, everything working fine.
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I've already done than with stock ics. It's still laggy and poo
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Ben36 said:
I've already done than with stock ics. It's still laggy and poo
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I think gb rocks it's good
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To be honest, CM9 is way better than stock GB/ICS if you are not very picky about camera performance.

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